When You’re Running Bad You’re Running Bad | Live Poker Vlog #47
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2022
- Another day from my recent trip over at Legends Poker Room in Texas. I took a couple of especially weird bad beats (story at the end of the video).
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Hey, I'm Wayne aka donkfishpoker and I typically play live small stakes PLO. I'm going to be taking some shots at bigger games and traveling to play poker. Comments below if you know of a good PLO game I can go to. - Zábava
Hey Wayne - i can't put my finger on WHY but I really liked your outro today. Great work and keep it up brother!
Maybe because I showed a little more emotion than I typically do. We all get a bit tilted sometimes. Thanks Michael, I really appreciate your continued support.
A bad dealer always makes a rough night rougher. I had a dealer give me AA once one of the A was exposed so he took it back the next card he gives me was another A ! I was pretty excited until he announced misdeal. He continued giving out cards after mine thinking it was omaha. I was steaming
You’re definitely right about that. Wow that is rough, an unfortunate part of the game. We commonly get the dealers who come from hold em but you can always give more cards can’t take them back haha
Awee tough one. You’ll get ‘em next time. Happy V day! ❤️
Thanks Shar, I appreciate the support. Happy V day to you as well!
Thanks for playing at Legends
The AQ85 ss is a muck from most positions if aggressive preflop. Reasonable call from late position (CO/Button) but you never flop big unless you've crippled the board or caught someone with underfull or second flush. The poorer players have to get lucky sometimes to keep them coming back :) Variance can be aggravating, just hang in there.
Yeah too disconnected to play in early position but I agree that in later position it can be playable. If there wasn’t a river there wouldn’t be any fish lol. Thanks for the encouragement.
Bad runs happens to all of us. Just keep doing your best and eventually, it might turn around. Enjoying the content.
Thanks Viktor, I don’t think I played great but the dealer mistakes didn’t help the cause either.
Although you ran bad I gotta say you still delivered a very entertaining vlog. Tons of action and some interesting spots!
I’m glad you enjoyed it. I figured it would be a good video despite the loss haha.
I like your decision to fold the AQ85 with a nut flush draw. This seems like the kind of hand that can call in late position, especially with several limpers. This hand might have a very tiny equity share above average, but it will not be unusual to be deprived of that equity on later streets since calling pot sized bets with 7 outs to the nuts will not usually be profitable. You will simply need more outs and this hand probably won't produce them.
It is good that you did not blame the dealer for your mucked hand, Dealers are very busy and when they see cards that look folded, they can accidentally muck them. As I am sure you know, protecting your hand is you responsibility. Back when I dealt, I did this once. I felt bad, but not much to be done.
Great analysis on the AQ85 and I completely agree. If it were a bit more connected such as AQ98SS I think calling from EP is fine.
I was a bit upset in the moment as it was the first playable hand I had in hours but I should have protected it better. Maybe he saved me money by mucking it 😂
Damn brother. That’s two back to back bad runs.
Rough start to the Texas trip
@@DonkFishPoker yeah it is. I did the same except in NLH. My last two sessions busted my bankroll so now I’m gonna have to wait a bit and save up another 500 and get back to it. I’ve never ran so bad. It didn’t matter what I was doing I kept getting drawn out on. Went all in with pocket 6’s and the guy next to me had pocket 4’s I showed him I had him beat and he still called me and hit a 4 on the river. My last couple sessions have been like that. Opponents playing really bad against me and getting paid. Frustrating as hell.
1:02 thought process on betting here while drawing to only runner runner on one board and a good draw on the other but still only one pair? In these texas bomb pots it very easily could be multiple people all in by the time it gets back to you. I would play this as a check call. Then if I hit the heart I can put max pressure on everyone by potting it and try to get folds from draws or bad two pairs on the other board.
You’re right, I guess my thought process was maybe I could take the pot down if nobody had anything but that was a bit too optimistic of me to think that haha.
Tough session , things will turn around soon just the game but don’t tilt just keep sticking to your strategy which is excellent
Thanks Rajaram, I definitely didn’t play my A game so it’s a good learning lesson moving forward. I appreciate the feedback and support.
Yeah I was going to state the obvious, you should use a card protector, even a chip on your cards. This happened to me when someone flung their cards across the table and I was in the 1 seat and of them ended up on top of my hand. My was dead - I had pocket queens. I wouldn't have won because there was an ace on the flop but lesson learned. Now I get blamed for hiding or covering my cards -
I guess I should now after that situation. We definitely have to do what we can to prevent outside factors negatively affect us:
I wish you luck in the next sessions!! You can’t run bad forever
Thanks Ryan, I don’t think I played great either so recipe for disaster
Texas seems rough on California and Vegas players until they get the hang of the Texas quirks (at least initially).
Yes that’s how it seems. It definitely took me a bit to get properly adjusted.
@@DonkFishPoker no joke. Any new game is going to take an adjustment for the outside winner to learn the game and take the group beating at first
@@nphoenixwebb1945 agreed, I took my early beatings, that’s for sure
Sometimes you need to just go fishing lol
I completely agree and sometimes you come up empty handed haha
Enjoy your videos, even though I don’t play Omaha. I had some run bad buddy, I just happen to be here from out of state playing at the lake. I love the place, except for the new chips
Thanks Dan, you’re missing out. The run bad happens to us all, we just have to stay positive and move on. I only played with them that first week they came but yeah it was a mess haha. How long are you in town for?
@@DonkFishPoker was sorry about your run bad. Maybe I’ll keep on watching your videos and try Omaha thanks
@@danduncan7018 it happens, thanks. You’ll love it, once you play plo hold em will seem so boring. Good luck at the tables Dan, I might be back at the Lake Friday.
@@DonkFishPoker Going to Marengo on Friday, sorry not to meet up with you. Looking forward to the next video
Change of plans, going to Marengo today, the lake tomorrow. If you can make it be glad to meet up with you
i usually have vice grip on my cards in the case that the dealer is on auto pilot and doesnt notice what hands he/she is mucking but it happens....dealers dont do that kinda stuff on purpose
Yeah I hear you. I don’t ever have an issue with it but just happened here at the worst time lol
Wow that's running bad
Happy valentines day wayne! if youre ever at SHR Tampa ill play 2/2/5 with the rock with ya there, really fun game! Run bad sessions happen, just the other day i got rivered like 8 times in a row for multiple hundred dollar pots and i dont hate a single play i made in that entire session just keep up the grind and the good play!
I definitely let you know if I’m ever there. Thanks for the recommendations and encouragement. Run bad happens to us all and I don’t think I played great either but we live and we learn.
Tampa in tha house+
@@anthonymartino403 do you guys play against each other?
@@DonkFishPoker I would imagine we have, although I'm not sure who the poster is
@@anthonymartino403 Im the guy in the gengar hat
You’re gonna be fine. Ride the variance wave. It’s just the cost of doing business in the PLO streets.
Wait til the positive variance smacks you in the face, youre gonna get it back and then some
Thanks Matt, I completely agree. If you don’t like variance plo isn’t the game for you haha.
Tough day at the office! Hope your next session runs better. Also, I love your PLO vlogs, but when marketing, sell the sizzle not the steak. We're going to eat the steak, now u need the sizzle to attract the broad audience. Best of luck at the tables.
Thanks Dan, I appreciate the feedback. You’re exactly right. Good luck to you as well!
Dont worry you always get back up in plo and yes first time i see your struggling maybe its texas is an unlucky state lol i should move lol
The action is too good to move out haha
@DonkFishPoker You are not lying that is for sure Hey you ought to come by to Dallas Texas to the Texas cardhouse
@DonkFishPoker It will be great to meet you if you come back to Dallas I'm off this whole week because I had surgery done
Youll get them next time!
Thanks Monty, running bad and playing bad almost always ends in an L
This will be a nice character builder. Don't focus on running bad or anything to do with variance, you played fine other than the two DB bomb pots. Basically just sit those out imo, definitely dont put much money in when you are playing only one board. I know you know that, but it will be tempting when you are downswinging. Hold strong brother and good luck
Thanks Adam, those bomb pots are tricky and it had been a while since I last played them but I’ll be better prepared for them next time. You’re exactly right, thanks for the continued insightful feedback as always. Good luck at the tables man!
I think I might start using a card protector after seeing this. I wouldn’t handle getting my aces folded by the dealer very well lol
I sometimes put a chip on top although I can’t ever remember the dealer mucking my hand before this session. I just laughed in the moment
Definitely. Or put a chip on top. Or keep your hand on top of the cards. Not only dealers might muck the hand but the way people fold in Texas, they may accidentally kill your hand when their cards hit yours. Always, always protect your hand.
Well you got to donk to call 370 pre with K10 10 2. On another hand that's why I almost never 4 bet aces, because they never fold. Unless it's way late in a tournament.
The guy told me he was committed to call $280 more because he was already in $90
I just looked at him and nodded my head in agreement
What a shitty session !!! I know it’s hard to stay positive ! Good video though
As long as my demise can make an entertaining video haha.
Hey I play at Legends! Do you play in Houston often?
Me too!
I was just there for a week, it was my first time in Texas. I’ll definitely be back next year though.
The single suited ace 5 ❤️ you don’t think is worth a flop at all? I know it’s not as connected or nutted if you want but I guess I see what your saying is your drawing to straight flush or nothing unless flush with unpaired board
I believe it’s playable from later position but not in early position especially in an aggressive loose Texas plo game. You prefer less gaps in the hand
Try to always have a chip on your cards if you can remember. What happened in that hand? Were you able to take your call/raise back?
On the last hand I think its push or fold pre. You're calling 240 with 250 behind with a hand that's not like 4567 where there might be a flop you can fold and also isn't a hand that plays better multi-way compared to heads up. Better to raise all in imo and have a chance to isolate the aces because the other player might fold not wanting to put in that much or knowing the original raiser might shove while also not giving him the ability to fold if he flops garbage. Folding AQJ6ss when you think the other person has aces also isn't the worst move if you want to pick a better spot.
Do you think you really would have 3-bet to 55 and called 250 pre with AQJT single suited with it not being the ace suited?
I was able to take back my money in the AAKT hand.
I agree, it was a weird stack size to call, push or fold were the better two options. If I had AQJT SS, I would have just called the $15 then might have called the raise as I had position on the player.
When it rains it pours
Yes it does. I can’t remember another session I’ve ever played where two dealer mistakes cost me but there’s always some human error involved so I just have to stay positive for the next one.
Oh, the dealer mucked your hand. Womp womp.
Do you notice a lot of dealer mistakes there?
@@DonkFishPoker Quite a few yes, but also a lot of player "mistakes" too, such as constant folding out of turn.
Legends is kind of a crap-shoot. The game was better 6 months ago when it was at 88 Social, but Legends moved in and took over with some promotions. The game still good, but it's been going down hill a bit since then.
@@forgotaboutbre I saw that a lot as well. Interesting, what do you attribute to the game going downhill? Big home games?
@@DonkFishPoker I think it's cuz Legends is a much more poorly run club so there's a segment of population that's not coming anymore.
@@forgotaboutbre Other players said that as well, what other club are they going to? I know somebody was telling me about a new club opening down the street from there
Did the guy give you the 105 3-bet back? I've seen that😬
I don’t know the official ruling but Legends and Texas in general is very lenient with the rules which makes sense given that they operate under a gray area but yes they did.
Brutal but you'll be back really soon
Yeah it was a great learning experience, widened my range a bit too much in this one
What’s with the dealer? That’s two big mistakes. I can forgive the card being flipped over but mucking the cards of someone in the hand is egregious. Hope you at least got your money back in that hand. Potentially cost you a double up.
Two different dealers
@@dogperson432 ah ok. I was going say, that dealer is having a horrible day.
Yeah it was two different dealers. The dealers there were good for the most part but during this particular session they had an off day to put it nicely 😂
@@DonkFishPoker I got it
announcing "one pair" on a Q high board with AA should be illegal.
Among other things lol
What is a good bankroll for 1-2 plo
There are a lot of factors to that but obviously the more the better. I’d recommend you play as soon as possible as there is no replacement for the experience
Oh wow, $370 with KTT2 and he gets rewarded.
Yeah he did the typical trying to explain his decision as he won the pot because he felt bad saying he was committed to call $280 more preflop after he already called $90 haha
Meh if you're gonna put that 240 in preflop on the last hand might as well push it all, and you know better than that. Unfortunate they didn't give you 2pair but idk if you call if the suits are dif
You’re right, based on stack size it’s a push or fold. Bad play by me
Just brush it off and forget about it.
Flush it and onto the next lol
Fkn dealers!
You should get paid back when the dude folded your hand
I did, they let me take it back although I was still upset about it especially after being card dead for the previous 2 hours.
Trust me I get it, I went into parx for 6 hours and I literally played only 7 hands, and all my nutted cards got cracked prefllop, such a horrible feeling
@@DannyMacczZ Discipline and patience is the key but so sometimes it’s just not our day.
Yo this dealer sounds like a hot mess
Two dealers.
Yeah they both had an off day, lucky for me haha
Early in the Session, you fold AQ85 ace- suited for 35$, and later call 240$ with AQJ6 double suited. In the 2nd hand, your up against AA 90% of the time. Im concerned about the hands we are not seeing you fold, because I don't see you playing many "Rundown" type hands. The very best Straight Draws in PLO, can only be flopped with "Rundown" type hands that have a Gap in them. Hands like QJ108
AQ85SS, I would have played it in later position. I didn’t play the AQJ6DS hand great, probably should have either folded or pushed. I didn’t get many rundown hands this session but I know I have undervalued them in the past.
Would you probably have just called the $15 with the AQJ6?
Can someone tell me what SPR is? 😂
Stack to pot ratio.
Basically how much money you have left compared to how much money is already in the pot.
It stands for stack to pot ratio so general rule of thumb is the lower spr the less equity you need to go all in. Usually in plo if you get the pot down to near or less than 1 you usually just have to go with the hand.
Awesome thanks guys 👍🏼
running bad huh? are you serious? apart from the other player mucking your hand (which is your fault for not protecting your hand) , the rest is not considered running bad, this is normal. I've been playing 4 20 yrs now and I've been watching your videos lately. believe me man you'r running pretty good!!
I've seen you "tikin it down" with trash holdings. I even remember one of your hands where on the river the flush got there, I think the straight got there as well and an ace was on the board YET YOU STILL "TIK IT DOWN" WITH KINGS AGAINST TWO OPPONENTS!
even in this very session u complain about, u still managed to hit a couple of gutters! check it again.
long story short, you run very good but you are not aware of it cuz you always have it. like a fish who doesn't know about water cuz he is living IN IT!
hope you acknowledge your luck and stop being ungrateful. cheers 🙂
I appreciate the feedback Hamed and you’re definitely right, I have been running well for the most part. I have improved my tilt controls but I definitely let my emotions get the best of me in this session but we live and we learn.
I should definitely be grateful and will try being more positive moving forward. Thanks again Hamed, cheers 🍻
Any consideration to dropping the background music?
Change it to something else or drop it? I put it in early in the vlog to kill the dead space
@@DonkFishPoker it’s good just find a few other tunes like it if you want to mix it up. It’s good.
@@nphoenixwebb1945 Ok thanks for the recommendation, I’ll find some other good ones to mix in.
Horrible dealer!!
Yeah they had an off day 😂
Hooe you do better bext time around irs tough plo texan wayvis way different thsn vegas pol play
You’re exactly right, I’ll be better the next Texas trip around.
@@DonkFishPoker are you heading back home?
Why do people call people they are playing “villains” I think it’s the dumbest thing in the world. It’s like calling the players position “middle position” learn the terms and stop w the villain sht it’s so damn lame!
I use the term because that’s how people refer to them so I felt I was best to use to refer to the person I’m playing a particular hand against but I do typically use the players position when describing my opponent to others in conversation
@@DonkFishPoker mp not to bad I don’t mind it as much but hate the villain thing! Anyways appreciate the response and I will say I do like the content. I will be subscribing and I wish you luck! Keep playing Omaha brother it’s my favorite game!