Big Changes to UK ISA Accounts?

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  • @Rocketed12
    @Rocketed12 Před měsícem +95

    Tax on savings is a national disgrace in itself

    • @tomonetruth
      @tomonetruth Před 28 dny +5

      Not really. Collapsing schools is a national disgrace, taxing part of the interest earnt on hoarded wealth is just annoying to people with lots of money.

    • @MrThewillows
      @MrThewillows Před 27 dny

      @@tomonetruth spoken like a true envy ridden man who thinks he is entitled to someone else's money. Saving for the future should be in everyone's mindset but when there are totalitarians like yourself it discourages just that and in the end you have a society that believes someone else needs to provide for hem. Well done! schools have nothing to do with it.

    • @JasonSpielberg
      @JasonSpielberg Před 3 dny +1

      @@tomonetruth or people who are trying to get out of the shitty housing estates they've been deliberately funnelled into...

    • @willdon.1279
      @willdon.1279 Před 10 hodinami

      @@tomonetruth Well said. There is a lot of greed about. 😞

  • @mrsulzer66
    @mrsulzer66 Před měsícem +773

    Ideally no tax on ANY savings, money going into savings has been taxed numerous times previously.

    • @jeanlawley6483
      @jeanlawley6483 Před měsícem +39

      Its the interest that's taxed not the original sum ... so this has never been taxed before

    • @wingtsun1
      @wingtsun1 Před měsícem

      @@jeanlawley6483 The original sum was built from taxed income, the interest on that taxed sum is then taxed again if over allowances.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem +13

      I’m sure your countries oligarchs will enjoy this policy.

    • @sw793
      @sw793 Před měsícem +26

      ​@jeanlawley6483 not really, only the interest above inflation is new money. Most / all ofvyhevinterest is just to stop the value being eroded by inflation.

    • @chesshooligan1282
      @chesshooligan1282 Před měsícem

      @@jeanlawley6483 The original sum is also taxed by means of increase in the money supply -- at a yearly rate of 7%, mind you. The government pinches 7 per cent of your savings every single year without you having to do anything with that money. Cash savings are a terrible idea.

  • @ScotlandTheBrave_1
    @ScotlandTheBrave_1 Před měsícem +83

    It’s crazy that we pay tax on anything over 20k saved when it’s already been taxed at source! We shouldn’t be taxed more than once

    • @wendybrierley5412
      @wendybrierley5412 Před měsícem +2

      We are also entitled to 1k savings interest tax free if Basic tax payers. But do not have compound interest over more than 1 year esp the initial amount is big. I had my over 5 years compound interests and received over 2.5k in the end when the interests rate was very, very, low.
      HMRC allowed me 1k tax free and the rest was taxed at 20%. I got caught! but didn't know the implications as the Government was not clear on this initially when the 1k interest tax free was introduced.
      It still hurts!
      Just receive the interest every year, don't over 1k per year. Then you get the tax free 1k.
      Not sure if this apply to Scotland?

    • @tomonetruth
      @tomonetruth Před 24 dny +1

      Pound coins don't remember they've already been taxed! We pay tax on transactions, not "at source", whatever that means. There is no tax on savings - it is the interest "earnt" on savings that is taxed, and there are plenty of ways of not having to pay that, such as ISAs, allowances, donations, and just spending the stuff.

    • @Fafe953
      @Fafe953 Před 23 dny +1

      Same for state pensions. This government wants no private ownership of anything.

    • @reg8848
      @reg8848 Před 10 dny

      @@Fafe953pathetic comment

    • @noggintube
      @noggintube Před 19 hodinami

      You aren't taxed on any money you put in. It's only the interest on those savings that is taxed, and even then only after a certain amount based on your tax band. Best to understand the system before you comment on it.

  • @davidclowes8479
    @davidclowes8479 Před měsícem +487

    Stamp duty on buying uk shares should be abolished, the uk government give no incentive to invest in its own markets, instead see tax tax tax. I recently opened a junior stocks and shares isa for both of my children, aged 7 and 9. Even they had to pay stamp duty 🤦🏼‍♂️. What a disgrace 🫤

    • @thebenevolentsun6575
      @thebenevolentsun6575 Před měsícem +13

      Thanks David where did you get your economics degree from?

    • @queensberryrulez5306
      @queensberryrulez5306 Před měsícem

      @@thebenevolentsun6575😂😂

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 Před měsícem +32

      But you bought them regardless. Stamp duty didn't deter you. So by your own logic it wouldn't be an incentive.

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 Před měsícem +57

      ​@@thebenevolentsun6575What was said that you think should require a degree ?
      Everything said seemed reasonable enough to me.
      But anyway, I am glad we are in your well educated company.

    • @davidclowes8479
      @davidclowes8479 Před měsícem +42

      @@thebenevolentsun6575 it might surprise you, but you don’t need an economics degree to work out, 0.5 % on large trades leaves you slightly lighter in the pocket, or your portfolio. As the uk economy is rather stagnant and in the shit, it seems incentivising people to buy in the ftse/ uk stock market might good in the long run. Perhaps you like paying even more taxes?? Who knows 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @johndoh539
    @johndoh539 Před měsícem +238

    I am 60 years old and have been doing the right thing for years. Living within my means, and investing the rest into shares ISA ‘s and letting compounding do the rest.
    I have been doing it since we had PEP,s, which some of your older viewers may recall.
    I have built up a sizeable amount of which I aim to help me retire early.
    My worst nightmare is if they tax Isa,s in some way or put a cap on what you have in isa,s already and put a wealth tax grab on the rest.
    After the labour government taxed dividends on private pensions years ago ( and at the same time gave public sector workers way above inflation pay rises- ring a bell?) thereby helping end final salary schemes ( mine went into the pension protection fund) I worry all my plans will come tumbling down again.
    What is it about this country where politicians feel the need to take money off hard working people who have done the right thing to try and grow their wealth and security and spread it out to the lazy and feckless.
    I am dreading what the chancellor will come out with tomorrow..

    • @lkearney7299
      @lkearney7299 Před měsícem +62

      When they spot a section of society doing "too well", they drag them back down. It's a standard cycle.

    • @ploppy193
      @ploppy193 Před měsícem +42

      It's the politics of envy.

    • @barneyrubble9309
      @barneyrubble9309 Před měsícem +29

      But they want you beholden to them and not independent.. They hate that cos they lose control.... Its all about control.

    • @dreamzzz610
      @dreamzzz610 Před měsícem +24

      I agree. The hard working try to invest to secure their future and to not rely of state hand outs including pensions , yet governments want a piece of our hard earned money.
      People with no assets yet more benefits than tax payers

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 Před měsícem +20

      @@ploppy193 Also known as socialism.

  • @user-co4xt7bi7p
    @user-co4xt7bi7p Před měsícem +208

    The reason why most are cash ISA's is because most people do not have enough cash to risk in shares because they have no knowledge or experience in knowing who to invest in.

    • @Makalon102
      @Makalon102 Před měsícem +10

      Yeah the general public knows nothing about index funds

    • @onenote6619
      @onenote6619 Před měsícem

      @@Makalon102 I think that people are turned off on Index ISAs because they see the occasional dips and think 'what if I need my money when that happens'. On the other hand, they are perfectly happy to lock their money into 3 or 5 year cash ISAs with a lower payout, but predictably so.

    • @rfxtuber
      @rfxtuber Před měsícem +3

      Ermmm... The first thing is that Not only standard ISA paying crappy rates but the restrictions and the fact you have to rely on the provider to transfer out to something else and fees to do so, make them a pointless product for many... Is it a flexible ISA, is it this, does it allow this, how can do that... Complication that nobody wants...

    • @mj8325
      @mj8325 Před měsícem +17

      Yeah most isas from high street banks offer crap funds

    • @ML-jr1yz
      @ML-jr1yz Před měsícem +5

      I am one ...to risky to invest i believe!!

  • @sonofsomerset1695
    @sonofsomerset1695 Před měsícem +128

    Asking Labour to review ISAs is like letting a bear inspect your honey supplies.

    • @seanhayes2998
      @seanhayes2998 Před měsícem +20

      I think that’s very offensive to the intelligence of bears.

    • @ernestthesmallholder559
      @ernestthesmallholder559 Před měsícem +3

      Labour and Conservative are both the same with different liveries: red and blue - but, they do nothing for you.
      It was the last Tory chancellor that reduced the Capital Tax threshold to £3,000 from £12,000 and brought many thousands of working people investors into CGT for the 1st time, even investing to keep up with inflation is now taxed.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před měsícem +10

      @@ernestthesmallholder559 I know, that's why I voted Reform for an actual change, unfortunately our voting system is designed to keep the status quo, they got far more votes than the Lib Dems, yet they get 70 odd MPs and Reform only got 5, and they call that democracy?

    • @Pomsbunny
      @Pomsbunny Před měsícem

      @@sonofsomerset1695 I did too and I agree with you, that is not democracy, it's an illusion.

    • @antnam4406
      @antnam4406 Před měsícem

      @@sonofsomerset1695 Reform ltd company, a Farge's registered company.

  • @51madmitch
    @51madmitch Před měsícem +73

    We earn our money and pay tax, so why should the government tell us or control our savings, make savings interest tax free, we have paid tax already, leave it up to the banks etc decide how much interest we earn.

    • @parishesofthebuzzard9437
      @parishesofthebuzzard9437 Před měsícem

      Has the civil service and public sector in general achieved any goals?

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 Před měsícem +1

      So you're advocating for abolishing capital gains tax across the board?

    • @Deppel57
      @Deppel57 Před měsícem +4

      @@GamezGuru1 Tax the banks' fat profits

    • @Al_Eth
      @Al_Eth Před měsícem +3

      You’ll be even more pissed to know that tax is the least of our problems. They debase the currency annually, so while we work hard for our money they can print it which increases the money supply and raises asset prices relative to our wages

    • @georgeherbert248
      @georgeherbert248 Před 29 dny +3

      cause its a scam same as taxes. You and me will pay in 10x minimum to whatever those scum give us in the form of pension.

  • @ploppy193
    @ploppy193 Před měsícem +357

    The govt. should not have the right to tell us where to invest our money. It's up to them to make the UK a good place to invest in!

    • @IAmebAdger
      @IAmebAdger Před měsícem +15

      No, but we do need them to make investing tax free for us as much as possible. They really need to raise the ISA limit....

    • @paulmatthews9366
      @paulmatthews9366 Před měsícem

      Communists have no off switch. They want to control your soul, your children. The government are your mum and dad.

    • @LawrenceTimme
      @LawrenceTimme Před měsícem +32

      @@IAmebAdger why do they need to raise the limit when only the top 7% use it to the limit? They need to get more people to use them first.

    • @paulbo9033
      @paulbo9033 Před měsícem +23

      Disagree. If the tax payer is going to subsidise the minority who can afford to set aside money in an ISA (i.e. you and me), they have the right to tell us where they want their money (our subsidy) spent. Tax subsidies are not a god given right, the alternative is just to take it away.

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 Před měsícem

      ​@@paulbo9033Not taxing something is NOT a subsidy.

  • @user-cs1dt2xw4c
    @user-cs1dt2xw4c Před 28 dny +11

    I wouldn't trust this government with anyone's money.

  • @davidbarclay54
    @davidbarclay54 Před měsícem +241

    HL fees are a barrier to purchasing shares. They can fix that without government intervention!

    • @coderider3022
      @coderider3022 Před měsícem +3

      HL for the fund and share account is good and the 11 fee is works out cheaper than other platforms. No platform fee , just that 11 and If you have 5 figures on it , it’s good deal

    • @fredatlas4396
      @fredatlas4396 Před měsícem

      @davidbarclay54
      Agree with you. Hl charges 0.45% for holding open ended funds, oeics etc. Which is very expensive. And they charge £11.95 for each dealing charge. Their isa is cheaper if you only invest in etfs, individual stocks and investment trusts, it's capped at just £45 per annum at the moment. But still £11.95 dealing charge. And same with the sipp capped @£199 per annum. It's cheaper for larger amounts. Fidelity UK charges 0.35% for funds in isa and sipp. But if again you only use etfs, stocks and investment trusts it's capped at £90 per annum for isa & sipp, plus dealing charges are just £7.50 per deal. Vanguard UK charge just 0.15% per annum for investing in etfs or open ended funds, and no dealing charge of you buy or sell etfs like the funds, if you want to buy, sell etfs in real time the dealing charge is £7.50. If you want to hold your stocks, etfs or investment trusts in HL's fund and share account then no platforn fee but still dealing charges. And why would you want to hold your investments in a taxable account?

    • @fredatlas4396
      @fredatlas4396 Před měsícem

      ​@@coderider3022 The dealing charge on HL is £11.95 per deal and why would you want to put your money into a taxable account. Other platforms have Lower platform charges and lower dealing costs

    • @mikerodent3164
      @mikerodent3164 Před měsícem

      @@coderider3022 Yes, perhaps clarify that you pay a big fat ZERO fees ... provided you scrupulously stick to ETFs (or shares). The £12 fee is tolerable, but not as good as something like T212 (er, £0). Someone also told me that HL's FX rates are a rip-off, so proabbly also avoid ETFs denominated in USD, and stick with GBP.

    • @pingupenguin2474
      @pingupenguin2474 Před měsícem

      HL, J.J.Bell, and other investment companies, do the investing legwork that it would be impossible, time consuming, or limiting of choice, to do yourself. They arrange the investing of your money into the actual shares, funds, whatever, according to your choices. Also, for " managed funds" they do all the managing. Someone who knows the finance system enough, has to do this sort of thing unless you want limited to automated systems. I think there are regulations, funding, and legal requirements about things like how they advise clients. All this requires trained/ qualified people. They have a wide range of investment options. Regarding HL, I experienced helpful staff on the phone to guide you through getting
      started with setting up an ISA and setting up payments to your specified investment choices. They also have a website with hundreds of options listed. It includes a system so you can see how your investments are doing and make changes as required. The site had to set up and needs maintained All this costs money. Considering all they do for us, including much more support than online trading apps, they earn their fee, which is a tiny cut in what you are paying in. You get what you pay for.😅

  • @danielt3497
    @danielt3497 Před měsícem +56

    If you want to boost investment in UK equities, get rid of capital gains tax on UK shares.

    • @Drive-n-Vibe
      @Drive-n-Vibe Před měsícem +5

      you don't pay that on earnings within an ISA wrapper. that's the whole reason it exists in the first place.

    • @ablamill8357
      @ablamill8357 Před měsícem +2

      Cap gains tax will stay and if anything it will go up a couple of % unfortunately.

    • @clifford4393
      @clifford4393 Před měsícem +1

      @@Drive-n-Vibe And that is just £20000 sharing with the limits of other ISAs. Hardly attracting any subtantial investments.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 Před měsícem

      @@clifford4393 it's substantial if everybody actually took advantage of it but they dont...

    • @mosheridan7016
      @mosheridan7016 Před měsícem

      Under pressure from who?

  • @TomsPersonalFinance
    @TomsPersonalFinance Před měsícem +65

    Great discussion, Toby. I personally can't see them increasing the ISA allowance. That wouldn't do anything significant really to help the UK stock market and can be twisted by the media as helping the super well-off invest more tax free (no chance Labour doing that).
    I'd love stamp duty to be abolished and i think that would make investing in UK stocks much more appealing.
    And I don't think it really matters where the UK companies make their money. In a world of globalisation, you'd expect large companies to make most of their money abroad. What matters is getting the next global giants to be listed and headquartered in the UK! I can't see that happening either, as the UK just can't really afford the tax incentives at the moment.

    • @tomfahey2823
      @tomfahey2823 Před měsícem

      Laffer Curve suggests that tax incentives can increase tax revenue.

  • @geetarwanabe
    @geetarwanabe Před měsícem +18

    Considering the government recently changed the capital gains tax from 12,000 tax free to just 3,000 then that's the first thing to reverse.

    • @dominikpierre-louis5028
      @dominikpierre-louis5028 Před měsícem +2

      I was flabbergasted that they continually reduced it by 50% per year until it was a little over £3k

    • @geetarwanabe
      @geetarwanabe Před měsícem

      @dominikpierre-louis5028 it was about £1000 free in 1980, which is about £7,500 today adjusted for inflation. We're literally less than half the allowance from the 1980s. The government said the £12000 was "very generous," which it was, but taking it down to £3000 is just making the little guy with small side gigs get screwed. The people reasonably small businesses are only inconvenienced and the medium to big business won't notice. Why can't they tax the rich property? Fuckers

  • @despoticmusic
    @despoticmusic Před měsícem +15

    The ISA limit should be increased each year at least in line with inflation. As it is, it’s another fiscal drag reduction in people’s wealth.

    • @michaelhughes4466
      @michaelhughes4466 Před 19 dny

      Good luck with that idea with this government!

    • @willdon.1279
      @willdon.1279 Před 9 hodinami

      Anyone who can save more than £20,000 every year are the last people to be complaining.
      My original £5K to £10K has made me very well off!

  • @livingart2576
    @livingart2576 Před měsícem +79

    I use FTSE Developed World ex-U.K. Equity Index Fund - Accumulation. That’s how much faith I have in the U.K.! lol
    Cheers Toby 😊

    • @geofflancaster8542
      @geofflancaster8542 Před měsícem +6

      ...and it's returns have been excellent!

    • @davidbutlin8271
      @davidbutlin8271 Před měsícem +3

      same i have this but also ftse 100 but its more like weighted 4% to 15% lol

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem +3

      lol, I’ve made so much on Rolls Royce :)

    • @christines5430
      @christines5430 Před měsícem +1

      Same here!

    • @thescouselander5531
      @thescouselander5531 Před měsícem +1

      Same here, it's been a great investment so far.

  • @LB-W
    @LB-W Před měsícem +93

    Totally agree that stamp duty on share is a barrier. The fact that the UK market moves like a slug doesn’t help either.

    • @rizswitheral6304
      @rizswitheral6304 Před měsícem +2

      No one is investing in the UK markets anymore... It's been some time now. Really low growth besides a few companies, US all the way

    • @Deppel57
      @Deppel57 Před měsícem

      0.5% is nothing in the scheme of things when brokers can charge up to £20 basically for a mouse click

    • @alan_davis
      @alan_davis Před měsícem

      ​@@rizswitheral6304 hilarious, my uk fund is up 22% in 12m.

    • @Jason_L10
      @Jason_L10 Před měsícem +1

      @@rizswitheral6304 thats a rather blanket statement, and completely untrue. If no one was investing the UK stock market wouldnt exist.

    • @dallysinghson5569
      @dallysinghson5569 Před měsícem

      Stamp duty, on property? Abolish stamp duty and folk use that money to bid more on housing XD

  • @drummingspain207
    @drummingspain207 Před měsícem +7

    I like this guy... sensible, logical and practical. Keep up the good work :)

  • @David-wh7rm
    @David-wh7rm Před měsícem +22

    I had no idea about stamp until my transaction went through and i saw it presented on screen

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem +3

      You wait until the Swiss or yanks keep a chunk of your dividends!

  • @summerrr1
    @summerrr1 Před měsícem +73

    If they increased the ISA allowance to 40k or higher I’d happily put the increased allowance component into a UK ISA type fund. Personally, I think the ISA limit should be removed entirely. No savings should be taxed.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem

      So the super wealthy pay absolutely nothing? Reduce tax on work first, not give those with wealth unlimited tax breaks.

    • @thomasowen2585
      @thomasowen2585 Před měsícem +9

      I bet you and everyone who has liked this comment also believes that the NHS should be free to all, we should have free schools and benefits for the poor. Someone has to pay.

    • @anjux3673
      @anjux3673 Před měsícem

      @@thomasowen2585we have already paid tax on what we save when we earn it. Savers are double taxed.

    • @kennztube
      @kennztube Před měsícem

      If you work you pay, if you buy you pay, no matter what you do you pay. We are one of the most taxed societies in the world.​@@thomasowen2585

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire Před měsícem +10

      Yeah, via income tax, which we already pay. Also the NHS and schools are already free, so what you smoking?

  • @MrScootmcg
    @MrScootmcg Před měsícem +64

    I don't see them touching the current ISA arrangements. The tax free lump sum from pensions on the other hand is low hanging fruit they will not be able to resist.

    • @geofflancaster8542
      @geofflancaster8542 Před měsícem +3

      My resignation form is on my phone, ready to go...

    • @jasonaris5316
      @jasonaris5316 Před měsícem +10

      Massive rucktions ahead as public sector pensions pay an equivalent lump sum
      Take it away from private sector pensions then it must go from them too

    • @MrScootmcg
      @MrScootmcg Před měsícem

      @@jasonaris5316 True, but they could smooth that process by say offering above inflation rises to the public sector.

    • @gordonjames8233
      @gordonjames8233 Před měsícem

      ​@@geofflancaster8542 ha. They were my thoughts also. Or perhaps reduce my hours.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 Před měsícem +3

      @@MrScootmcg You're basing that on... Nothing.

  • @tomonetruth
    @tomonetruth Před měsícem +30

    For adults in the UK, the median amount held in cash savings is just over £1000. People aren't put off investing because there are "too many types of ISA" - it's because they don't have enough money. If the government wants more investment into UK listed companies, it needs to look at UK pensions - that's where the money is. For various reasons, we are the only country in the world who's pension funds underweight their own domestic market. That's harder to fix, but it will have a meaningful impact. The UK ISA is a nice-to-have for people who already have far more money than most - it's a (failed) vote-bribe, not a solution to anything.

    • @parishesofthebuzzard9437
      @parishesofthebuzzard9437 Před měsícem +4

      Many people don't save because they break benefit capital sums. It would be silly to save and then lose thousands in benefits. You could have tens of thousands in cash at home or Gold or other assets, but £16k in the bank. Hell no.

    • @SomeLad12
      @SomeLad12 Před měsícem +1

      I think people just don’t understand ISA’s. So many people I know just leave their money in savings accounts.

    • @juliantheapostate8295
      @juliantheapostate8295 Před měsícem +1

      ​@SomeLad12 there's very little to understand

    • @SomeLad12
      @SomeLad12 Před měsícem

      @@juliantheapostate8295 probably more the case that they don’t see the point or aren’t aware of there exist rather than they don’t understand them.

    • @dallysinghson5569
      @dallysinghson5569 Před měsícem +1

      You need the younger generation to subsidise those pensions and the younger generation are already toast.

  • @playersinexile72
    @playersinexile72 Před měsícem +6

    People don't save in ISAs because our disposable income has been eroded in the last 5 years. Low and middle income earners do not have £20,000 a year to invest. The allowance is purely for the wealthy. Do I have a stocks and shares ISA, yes? Do I have £20,000 no and I never will.

  • @peterc2248
    @peterc2248 Před měsícem +4

    Speaking as a 'normal' person with little understanding of the finance world, I find the comments informative. Within a few posts each thread soon becomes a debate that uses complex jargon and acronyms. That stuff both terrifies and confuses me so I choose to go the easy route with a cash ISA and a boring old bank savings account. Yes, I'm probably missing out financially but as the presenter points out, the world of personal finance is too challenging for many of us.

  • @bentp4891
    @bentp4891 Před měsícem +19

    No chance of those things changing. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see them coming after the ISA and at least cut the annual allowance, or possibly scrap it completely.

  • @Lindacrumrine
    @Lindacrumrine Před 14 dny +1

    I Hit 110k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started last month 2024. Financial education is indeed required for more than 70% of the society in the country as very few are literate on the subject. thanks to Katherine Storch for helping me achieve this.

  • @zerosumequation
    @zerosumequation Před měsícem +20

    Financial services want things to be complicated. I shut down my HL stocks & shares Isa because of all the fees & charges - while I was taking the risk. Now I just have cash Isa's at 4.98% monthly.

    • @Makalon102
      @Makalon102 Před měsícem

      You need to shop around, HL is a big name company that gets by on name recognition and thus doesn’t need to be competitive
      Use something by like trading 212 or InvestEngine with 0 fees

  • @jamesclark6257
    @jamesclark6257 Před měsícem +33

    I agree with raising the isa cap rather than creating the brit isa. But I like the cash isa to be separate from my s&s isa.

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 Před měsícem +4

      Why ?
      If they were combined it would just making switching between cash and shares easier. Also, it would probably force providers to give better interest rates for those that have cash in their stocks ISA.

    • @jamesclark6257
      @jamesclark6257 Před měsícem

      @timg1246 not all stocks and shares providers are proper banks and therfore not covered by financial compensation scheme. I've got trading 212 for s&s but if I opt to collect interest on un-invested cash, they put it in the money markets and it isn't protected. Let banks be banks for cash isa and trading platforms deal with s&s isa.

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 Před měsícem

      ​@@jamesclark6257Stockbroking sites ARE covered by FCA protection. Including Trading 212. From their website :
      "We do not use any of our client's funds for our own hedging or margin trading".
      The full spiel also says that client cash is separated into its own bank account, as is normal, from company money.
      Clients carry risk when they buy shares, but cash is protected up to £85,000 per client, per FCA licence. That includes any cash in any account. Most people would always make sure that no one institution carries more than £85,000 of their cash.
      So, if Trading 212 went bust, you would eventually get back your cash after an administrative delay.

    • @davideyres955
      @davideyres955 Před měsícem

      @@jamesclark6257trading 212’s Cash ISA is protected by the FCA guarantee as they can’t use the money markets for a cash ISA. You can move money between them without it affecting your ISA allowance.

    • @juliantheapostate8295
      @juliantheapostate8295 Před měsícem

      ​​@jamesclark6257 investments are covered by the FSCS although I appreciate you were talking about volatility risk

  • @PassiveFIRE
    @PassiveFIRE Před měsícem +10

    Hi Toby, when you posted the 'election ISA discussion' it felt very hypothetical and informed by rumour and guess work, and I was critical. I apologise. Looking back you were 100% right to highlight the discussions that were arising about what the ISA is, what it could become and what it is achieving. So a belated Thank you for being ahead of the game and raising awareness.
    This follow up video is flagging some critical questions and as you rightly, yes still feel guilty about being critical of the last one, highlight with AJB and HL uniting to flag questions and issues there is clearly motivation from Industry to simplify. I must also add that I've just sold out of UK stocks because of the poor returns so here are some personal observations, thoughts to add to the discussion:
    1. UK Performance vs Rest of the World - UK FTSE performance in a highly accessible world does offer great dividends but the next 10 years will be about disruptive growth... so why hamstring yourself with stocks that are being excessively burdened with tax, no I don't think stamp duty is a deciding factor but it doesn't help.
    2. UK individuals wealth - The £20k cap is in my view unlikely to change, unless it would benefit the govt. priorities since most people do not have £1k in savings. So I suspect the Labour Govt. will be looking to help encourage people to save a little. That said if ISA money could be used, like the rumoured UK pensions, for UK infrastructure... then I think they would consider a mechanism.
    3. Simplicity - It took me a good while to get my head around: ISA choices, ISA providers, ISA charges (trading, exchange fees etc), ISA vs Pension etc. capital gains, dividend interest allowance... the list goes on. From my perspective one single ISA that serves as a wrapper to allow you to hold: Bonds, Shares, Cash, Gold, Crypto, Commodities is the only real way to do this... remove the noise.
    So what would I like to see, well I'll list below the changes but at the heart of this respecting the priorities of the Labour government and their motivation is key to making any change happen:
    1. Remove the distractions of Lifetime ISA, Cash ISA, Stocks and Shares ISA by renaming the ISA as The UK ISA that allows you to hold any financial asset.
    2. Link the annual allowance of £20k to inflation and increase it in the budget. Rounded to nearest £1k so keeps maths simple.
    3. Ensure any cash held in the ISA receives the good interest return some providers offer: 5.2% with T212 currently.
    4. With distractions removed it'll make it easier for providers to market one single solution... but allow people to have different providers so you could split it into 4 pots of £5k.
    5. The real incentive to encourage people to save should not be the first house... but should be the importance of saving and investing. To do this I'd offer two initiatives as the Labour government.
    Initiative 1 - Any new ISA opened in each of the next 4 years of the Labour government are rewarded with a Govt. contribution of 25%. Up to a maximum of £1000 contribution (copying the House Buyer model but widening it). Conditional on it being held in the account for minimum of 2 years. So the lock in gets people used to the habit.
    Initiative 2 - Any uninvested cash in the ISA is used by the UK Govt. instead of the money market that generates the cash interest... to underpin UK Infrastructure investments (similar to a bond but without the time lock) with interest paid daily.
    We could get rid of the capital gains tax allowance of £3k, and the dividend interest £1k allowance and just clean it up. That effectively taxes the rich a little more... people able to use the £20k allowance would be hit... so politically not going to hurt labour, it would redirect this small tax receipt into front funding the encouragement of more people using ISAs and reduce admin costs of ISA providers whilst expanding their client base.
    Sorry longer message than planned... but what I love is you have us talking about this... and I'm not heading for brunch with friends... to drink coffee and this will be the discussion. They don't have ISAs... argh.
    I do hope Labour do something to get more people using them. Any simplification is better than nothing.

  • @jimcraiggeezer
    @jimcraiggeezer Před měsícem +17

    I agree with your opinions in regards to the extra 5k.. I think a big government education campaign in the UK ISA pros and cons would be very good.. so many people are totally ignorant in where the best place to put your spare cash... Cheers

    • @kestonharrison6641
      @kestonharrison6641 Před měsícem

      No government will ever push financial education out to the general public. They want worker drones and only the already wealthy get this education. It is for us, the generally 'poor', to educate ourselves, our children, and those around us.

    • @billB101
      @billB101 Před měsícem +2

      I honestly think financial literacy should be taught in schools. We're sorely lacking it in this country.

    • @londonspade5896
      @londonspade5896 Před měsícem +1

      @@billB101 Do you know any country that has more financially literate people?

    • @billB101
      @billB101 Před měsícem

      @@londonspade5896 what relevance does that have to my point?

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest Před měsícem

      The government don't want a financially literate populace as they would realise how much they are being fleeced

  • @Optimised7
    @Optimised7 Před měsícem +18

    What is the UK good for investing in? Capital growth? Income? It depends…seeing ARM not want to list here makes me think UK isn’t investable for now or a few years.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem +1

      Bubbly tech stocks do well in the US. If you want something more traditional and long term there are options out there.

    • @ColinWatters
      @ColinWatters Před měsícem +1

      We need to encourage manufacturing in the UK. We cant keep sending our money to China. Its working in the USA.

    • @TheMaw365
      @TheMaw365 Před měsícem +4

      The problem with the UK is that anything that starts to do well is imediatelly pounced on by the government and slowed down so badly everyone else simply over takes it leaving it with no gain and probably a loss in market share. Nobody with a functioning brain would start a company here that they could anywhere else. Literally one of the worst countries to invest in.

  • @yeahyeahblah
    @yeahyeahblah Před měsícem +7

    Regarding investing in British Businesses - you could look at improving SEIS / EIS schemes and certainly increasing the awareness. I feel SEIS and EIS aren't discussed enough.

  • @LeytonMax7
    @LeytonMax7 Před měsícem +23

    From $37K to $45K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.

    • @Philliplangridge
      @Philliplangridge Před měsícem

      Please where and how did you earn that much.

    • @Megan_mace_martin
      @Megan_mace_martin Před měsícem

      Please how do I go about it
      I'm still a newbie on investment trading and how can I make profits.

    • @JeffersonRichard-wg2xo
      @JeffersonRichard-wg2xo Před měsícem

      I would really love to know how much work you did put in to get to this stage.

    • @LeytonMax7
      @LeytonMax7 Před měsícem

      All thanks to LEO CLIFFORD

    • @LeytonMax7
      @LeytonMax7 Před měsícem

      **Leo Clifford is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT here in the States.*

  • @lewisscott22
    @lewisscott22 Před měsícem +23

    One ISA. £25k limit. Able to buy stocks and shares globally, but also cash not invested gets the standard interest rate. Keep the LISA.
    I am part of the 7% that maxes the ISA out and I’d rather invest outside the UK in a GIA and risk paying taxes than invest in UK business.
    Personally, my ISA is my pension. Tax free gains and can take out whenever I want? I would rather do that than wait until 70 odd and still pay taxes.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem

      My best returns in the last 9 months are from the UK market, always a bad idea to invest based on the past.

    • @PercyJackson93
      @PercyJackson93 Před měsícem

      ​@@edc1569Good luck

    • @lewisscott22
      @lewisscott22 Před měsícem

      @@edc1569Eh… where you looking? VUSA has done 19.8% past year, FTSE100 11.4%. FTSE 250 at 18.68%
      We have nothing to indicate future performance, but the past although not an accurate indicator, it’s the best we’ve got

    • @randommusic4567
      @randommusic4567 Před měsícem

      I think if you combine the cash ISA with stocks ISA then all you are doing is guarantee that in 10 years tome there will be another financial scandal with customers getting compensation saying that they were misled into loosing money when they thought their money was safe

    • @davem.4003
      @davem.4003 Před měsícem

      ISAs certainly have an important place due to their flexibility (the ability to withdraw whenever you need it). However, you do understand that the same amount invested the same way in a pension (SIPP) will always deliver 6.25% more than an ISA, even after tax? If you pay 40% income tax, or you can save into your pension by salary sacrifice, then you can gain an even greater benefit.

  • @ColinWatters
    @ColinWatters Před měsícem +16

    If they means test state pensions what incentive will there be to save?

    • @juliantheapostate8295
      @juliantheapostate8295 Před měsícem

      The incentive will be anyone who wants more than 10k/year retirement income in today's money

    • @user-iu6me9nn6w
      @user-iu6me9nn6w Před 26 dny +1

      Exactly - they don't want anyone to own anything, they want people to depend on the government for every aspect of their life, material and moral.

  • @Majinmathew
    @Majinmathew Před měsícem +3

    Raise the allowance to 25k and 5k ring-fence as British isa with no transaction fee & stamp duty on transactions under it. This will nudge more retail investors to investing & helping British listed shares.

  • @seanbissett-powell5916
    @seanbissett-powell5916 Před měsícem +3

    The problem isn't investment limits. The problem is the appalling return on investment. Fees (whether agency fees, stamp duty, annual membership or whatever else) just compound the problem.
    Until the rate of return at least keeps up with inflation, you're better off building a "rainy day fund" to cover emergencies and then just spending the rest having a good time. Better that than watching the real value of your savings get inflated away with the likelihood that whatever is left when you retire will be means tested as a way to reduce your state pension.

    • @acidthunder1
      @acidthunder1 Před 26 dny +1

      Thats legacy finance for you, banks and 3rd parties . Peer to peer is the way to go - de centralised finance

  • @The_Unintelligent_Speculator
    @The_Unintelligent_Speculator Před měsícem +17

    Thank’s for the insight Toby.

  • @adamp6320
    @adamp6320 Před měsícem +28

    A 0.5% purchase penalty is huge and a significant deterant to retail investors buying the shares. That's a good chunk of annual return. What are we getting for that money that investors in other countries don't get for free?

    • @paraglenner
      @paraglenner Před měsícem +2

      Behave.

    • @topboychris104
      @topboychris104 Před měsícem +1

      So obvious as well. I made the mistake of trading Barclays on the LSE once , never again I realized the round trip fees,.you can trade anything for tiny trade commissions in the US. Even trade the UK ADR for no fee

    • @davideyres955
      @davideyres955 Před měsícem +2

      Er £100 and the stamp duty is 50p. Huge? I think your scale may be somewhat skewed.
      It’s only when you make a purchase unless I’m wrong.

    • @adamp6320
      @adamp6320 Před měsícem

      @@davideyres955 It's an added 0.5% cost on any purchase amount, which is a lot when the alternative is free (which is the case in other countries) and there is zero benefit to you from paying that

    • @davem.4003
      @davem.4003 Před měsícem +1

      Daily volatility is regularly more than 0.5%. If you hit a regular pullback, that could mean a devaluation of 5-10% but valuations usually recover quite quickly. By that measure 0.5% stamp duty is almost irrelevant.

  • @markwilliams4312
    @markwilliams4312 Před měsícem +37

    A new Government should be bold and raise the limit to 30k per year. People who make money spend money, so let the 7% make the most of investment opportunities and spend it which supports other businesses.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem +4

      Speak for yourself mate, I’m putting away as much as I can in ISAs and investments, spending as little as possible.

    • @Makalon102
      @Makalon102 Před měsícem +4

      Europe just doesn’t really do this low tax thinking

    • @Rik77
      @Rik77 Před měsícem +1

      It doesn’t work, the tories tried to do this. In a global market, the money simply leaves the country. It might work in the USA but not the uk.

    • @AlexisMoore-nx6wf
      @AlexisMoore-nx6wf Před měsícem +2

      Selfishly, I would like to see the limit raised as I’d max it out too but let’s not pretend any profits made will be spent in the real economy.

    • @JasonAtlas
      @JasonAtlas Před měsícem

      I think trickle down economics deserves another try. After all people that make the most money spend the most or something idk.

  • @WhiteManInAVan
    @WhiteManInAVan Před měsícem +2

    U make some good points about the British ISA. Most people generally don't understand enough about investing to make an informed decision. but i do think we should incentivise investing in local companies.

  • @UKGeezer
    @UKGeezer Před měsícem +11

    All I know is Labour will find at least one way to screw me over financially.

    • @DrRock2009
      @DrRock2009 Před měsícem

      However, Labour aren’t going to make it more than 2 years before the global geopolitical and financial worlds blow them away..🤔

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem +1

      @@DrRock2009if the tories could manage 14 years with 8 years of post Brexit anarchy, I think they’ll be ok.

    • @DrRock2009
      @DrRock2009 Před měsícem

      @@edc1569 Brexit can happen in 2 years’ time, as it will be 10 years on from 2016….🤔

    • @_permanence
      @_permanence Před měsícem

      Tories have screwed me royally with high tax bands and reduced tax free allowances

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire Před měsícem +2

      Meanwhile conservatives let Lizz Truss be their leader. I'd say this comment aged poorly but it's a day old... That's a short memory.
      I don't like labour, but to suggest they'll be significantly worse is kind of silly given recent history. That's a big reason of why they lost the election

  • @DatBoiOrly
    @DatBoiOrly Před měsícem +2

    Theres one very simple way to increase business's growth new & old basically scrap business rates or completely rework them to work off income of the business rather than "the building they're renting at 50% of market value"

  • @LawrenceTimme
    @LawrenceTimme Před měsícem +40

    Stamp duty makes no difference, the poor performance of the British companies is what makes the difference

    • @richardwhite1120
      @richardwhite1120 Před měsícem +3

      Every dog has his day, and I much prefer to buy assets on the cheap thanks very much.

    • @abuibu
      @abuibu Před měsícem +4

      "Makes no difference"
      Really? The margins on trades can be so small, especially for short-term and day traders. Insane to think you're charged 0.5% every single time.

    • @daveingram9240
      @daveingram9240 Před měsícem

      Totally agree

    • @LawrenceTimme
      @LawrenceTimme Před měsícem +2

      @@abuibu day trading is dumb anyway. We are talking about investing here not gambling.

    • @gf5050
      @gf5050 Před měsícem

      Makes A big difference to big funds. Massively reduce the inflow of capital to the UK and British firms. Should have abolished long time ago, to compete properly against other countries and exchanges

  • @wedgtable
    @wedgtable Před měsícem +2

    The single biggest problem is the lack of education on investing. If people understood more about investing then people would invest more, which in turn will put more money into the UK stock market and benefit the economy.

  • @andrewpillinger7912
    @andrewpillinger7912 Před měsícem +7

    I suggest that we will see a special 2030 Carbon Free ISA, possibly with tax relief at source, where investors will be invited into plugging a massive gap between available government cash and the amount they that want to invest in windmills. If this were the case I would not touch it with a bargepole.

    • @bluedeskfan2754
      @bluedeskfan2754 Před měsícem +2

      If it included nuclear power I'd be interested. But that's not likely.

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire Před měsícem

      It won't include nuclear power cus we still don't know what to do about nuclear waste. Ergo, not renewable.

    • @juliantheapostate8295
      @juliantheapostate8295 Před měsícem

      ​@Stettafire it could be launched into space. There is no genuine objection to nuclear power

    • @jogriffiths5766
      @jogriffiths5766 Před měsícem

      It will be.

  • @declanmcardle
    @declanmcardle Před měsícem +20

    @2:40 Stamp Duty is some antiquated 19th Century tax. Should be scrapped on, e.g. houses too...

    • @Pegaroo_
      @Pegaroo_ Před měsícem +4

      what other tax or taxes do you think should be increased in it's place to compensate for the loss of revenue to the exchequer?

    • @Mike_Ripper
      @Mike_Ripper Před měsícem +3

      They should replace stamp duty with a window tax. That worked well 😂

    • @Joe-lb8qn
      @Joe-lb8qn Před měsícem +8

      @@Pegaroo_tax on tattoos. That would raise a ton.

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 Před měsícem +1

      @@Pegaroo_ We don't need another tax...get the 9 million "economically inactive" head workers back to work..problem solved.

    • @Pegaroo_
      @Pegaroo_ Před měsícem +2

      @@kw8757 You know more than 6 million of these people are on NHS waiting lists. It's crazy that the NHS has went from "World beating" to not fit for purpose since 2010

  • @davidwalsh9807
    @davidwalsh9807 Před měsícem +13

    Yeah the stamp duty thing is bs.

  • @miniaturepainter8805
    @miniaturepainter8805 Před měsícem +2

    It’s a pretty simple fix, teach tax, s&s, loan, interest etc in school as standard.

  • @JuanGonzalez-pf2tu
    @JuanGonzalez-pf2tu Před měsícem +4

    Personally, I invest in index funds which exclude the UK for starters. I had some individual shares of UK small companies but i started selling these as the dividends allowance started to be reduced. If they want people investing in UK companies, they should raise that allowance, or lowering taxes in dividends/capital gains outside ISAs, because investing through an ISA is really a very good way of investing, but the choices for providers are very limited when it comes to invest in individual companies rather than in funds. For me at least, all these reforms have done the contrary of what they pretended, because instead of investing more in the UK, i got rid of all the UK shares

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem

      Cheaper for the rest of us :)

    • @Al_Eth
      @Al_Eth Před měsícem

      If you don’t return 12% + a year then you aren’t beating inflation & debasement (money printing). Tech stocks and crypto are the only way to beat money supply growth due to rapid adoption and scarcity

  • @Arghans
    @Arghans Před měsícem +2

    Stamp Duty doesn’t stop me buying UK stocks but it does mean I’m more choosey on my investments and for quicker gains I’m always going to be looking at the US market.

  • @manni192
    @manni192 Před měsícem +4

    Capital Gains, Corporation Tax, Dividends Tax, Isa Allowance, Pension Allowance....This labour government is coming for it all. They will give it away to those on full time benefits

    • @michaelhughes4466
      @michaelhughes4466 Před 19 dny +1

      And above inflation wage increases for their friends in the public sector.

  • @stevestewart63
    @stevestewart63 Před 27 dny +1

    I remember back to PEP’S, it was easy. I agree let’s simplify it and have at least 50% in the UK to grow our own companies that are world class but lag behind other companies making them cheap to buy and increasing foreign ownership of these great companies.

  • @vinay4886
    @vinay4886 Před měsícem +8

    1. If the FTSE100 makes 80% of its earnings from its international presence, why is the return on a FTSE100 index so poor?
    2. I agree with the idea of scrapping the stamp duty - what do we pay stamp duty for? The ISA money is already taxed, unlike the SIPP contributions.
    3. Yes, simplify the ISAs- get rid of the LISA for starters(gets rid of the govt bonus and save the taxpayer some money). And lock in an increase of £1000/y on ISAs

    • @FootyPolitics
      @FootyPolitics Před měsícem +1

      1. The quality of company in the FTSE 100 is nowhere near their US counterparts in terms of ROE. Nobody wants to buy these value destructive companies except some dividend investors and institutional investors.

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 Před měsícem +1

      The LISA has always looked odd to me. Half way between a pension and an ISA with an eye on propping up property prices.
      The only way of helping buyers is building more homes and let the law of supply and demand operate. But the middle classes love their property prices, so.....

    • @SamJam160994
      @SamJam160994 Před měsícem

      Its Because Most of the FTSE 100 Companies are dividend Companies so people just live off the income. Its like a load of Vampires sucking the growth from the index. Also technology is extremely underrepresented which doesn't help.

    • @juliantheapostate8295
      @juliantheapostate8295 Před měsícem

      The FTSE 100 has gone from 1,000 to 8,000 in 40 odd years. Is that poor?

    • @FootyPolitics
      @FootyPolitics Před měsícem

      @@juliantheapostate8295 The FTSE 100 has gained just over 20% total return w/o including dividends since 10/12/1999. The vast majority of us would suggest those are awful returns.

  • @paulappswildlifeart
    @paulappswildlifeart Před měsícem +1

    I have funds albeit small, compared to many. I sit on it as I have little knowledge on stocks and shares isa, and when talking to companies in the field, I get bogged down it non layman terminology that bewilders me an puts me off investing. With a degree of mistrust in those giving advice. I am sure I am not alone, and would be some of the reasons why so many do not invest, lack of knowledge and trust, especially in an online world with a scam around every corner, cheers P

  • @philip6252
    @philip6252 Před měsícem +23

    Double the ISA allowance.

    • @ja007mes5
      @ja007mes5 Před měsícem +1

      Please

    • @dardog7734
      @dardog7734 Před měsícem

      Yes please !!!

    • @taylorscott7914
      @taylorscott7914 Před měsícem

      Quadruple it

    • @davem.4003
      @davem.4003 Před měsícem

      Why? So the rich get richer?

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 Před měsícem +1

      @@davem.4003 maybe you 'poor' people should just be smarter with your money and take advantage of what's already there? But no, easier to be ignorant, and blame the people who ARE looking after their finances...

  • @apflewis
    @apflewis Před měsícem +2

    "The British ISA ..." if it comes about should include stamp duty exemption for British domiciled stocks.
    I'm not really bothered, that much of the income for the FTSE comes from abroad, that's a good thing, I'd have thought.
    A problem for the UK is that many successful UK startup companies, they often get bought up by foreign (US) companies.

  • @c40uk98
    @c40uk98 Před měsícem +46

    British isa went quiet very quickly

    • @johnmunro4952
      @johnmunro4952 Před měsícem +4

      Pointless Tory policy is hardly going to be a priority for in incoming Labour government that has to try and right out listing ship.

    • @Dunk1970
      @Dunk1970 Před měsícem +4

      @@johnmunro4952 Well, except that Labour supported the idea by saying: “Labour has no plans to drop the British ISA,” a spokesperson told City A.M. “Labour wants to make it as easy as possible for people to feel the benefits of saving and investing their money, including through increased utilisation of stocks and shares ISAs.”

    • @Davy-yt8qg
      @Davy-yt8qg Před měsícem

      Get 5 years labour in power then you will see what a listing ship is.​@@johnmunro4952

    • @jakerowsell8752
      @jakerowsell8752 Před měsícem +3

      It was kind of shit, as it only really makes sense when you are already maxing pension and ISA.. Even then..

    • @Dunk1970
      @Dunk1970 Před měsícem

      @@jakerowsell8752 Well, you could then say that it was not restrictive to those who don't have enough money to max the ISA out and was therefore only applying the constraint of having to invest in UK equities to the most well off, who could.
      EDIT: Not suggesting that this was intentional by the way.

  • @frasermitchell9183
    @frasermitchell9183 Před měsícem +1

    I think what is more likely is that a lifetime cap will be placed on an ISA account, thus limiting the tax advantage.

  • @user-sg8vm1rr9x
    @user-sg8vm1rr9x Před měsícem +6

    Personally I like the Life Time ISA and would be upset to see that go.

  • @sc192i
    @sc192i Před měsícem +1

    Upping the limit to 25k would be a good idea, then raising this a little each year encouraging people to keep saving … allowing folk to have more than one product is great too (I didn’t know that was a thing)

    • @keithhobbs1
      @keithhobbs1 Před měsícem

      Yes. But it would be interesting to know how many current ISA subscribers are anywhere close to the £20k limit. I've been in a good job most of my career and I've never had enough free savings to get anywhere close to being able to save £20k in a year.

    • @YOLOSWAG420EZ
      @YOLOSWAG420EZ Před měsícem +1

      If people are capable of saving above 20k a year they're not the people that need to be encouraged to save since they're already very well off

  • @knowledgeseeker5499
    @knowledgeseeker5499 Před měsícem +14

    Why UK love taxing everything even investing into saving? Totally ridiculous to tax already tax paid earnings. They keep taxing already taxed income

    • @coderider3022
      @coderider3022 Před měsícem +1

      Compared to other EU countries , we actually do pretty well on tax , even after labour do some unpicking. Go look at income tax bands.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 Před měsícem +3

      @@knowledgeseeker5499 We have low taxes compared to comparable economies.

    • @knowledgeseeker5499
      @knowledgeseeker5499 Před měsícem +2

      @@Red1Green2Blue3 don’t forget we low salaries and wages for decades compared to other countries. We have almost 70% taxes directly or indirectly

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 Před měsícem +3

      @@knowledgeseeker5499 Why don't you just stop talking about things you don't understand. Salaries are irrelevant because when we're talking about tax burdens we're talking about percentages. Our taxes are low compared to comparable economies.

    • @knowledgeseeker5499
      @knowledgeseeker5499 Před měsícem +1

      @@Red1Green2Blue3 it’s very easy understand you want taxes to be increased and don’t want to look into income or higher salaries of those countries.

  • @sickbuffalo9902
    @sickbuffalo9902 Před měsícem +4

    I don't buy uk shares because of the stamp duty you are down 0.5% straight away I stick to us shares.

    • @markfindlay8636
      @markfindlay8636 Před měsícem

      I'm the same, UK is a slug.

    • @davem.4003
      @davem.4003 Před měsícem

      And how much is daily/weekly volatility? Plus, you are now subject to currency fluctuations as well and how much are you charged for currency exchange?

  • @ghost8726
    @ghost8726 Před měsícem +1

    After I have paid tax on my income, I don’t want to pay any tax on any savings to anyone. It’s MY money which I already paid tax on. I don’t think we should have a limit to how much we can save in the first place. The gov should focus on building a silicone valley and investing in the Uk. Create more jobs, create more buisness opportunities, put a limit on mortgage hikes, make housing more accessible and focus on the living cost aspect of things.

  • @RK-fr4qf
    @RK-fr4qf Před měsícem +4

    A carry forward rule for ISAs similar to SIPPs might be interesting too

  • @TheSilvercue
    @TheSilvercue Před měsícem +1

    Stamp Duty will make a huge difference. Paying another 0.5% on top of fees and spread is bonkers. Especially on stocks that only tend to grow 5% a year (FTSE 100)

  • @1963dalek
    @1963dalek Před měsícem +4

    It doesn't help that great UK companies like ARM opt for the US stock exchange instead. Not blaming them, it's just the way the investing landscape has changed in the last 20 years..

    • @andrewwrench1959
      @andrewwrench1959 Před měsícem +1

      ARM didn't opt for anything. Their owner, Softbank, chose the venue that would maximise their return. Prior to the Softbank takeover ARM was listed in London, but predominantly owned by US investors as moronic UK institutions couldn't, and in many cases still can't, see past a dividend.

    • @jogriffiths5766
      @jogriffiths5766 Před měsícem

      The petro-dollar is gone anyway. It'll be China now.

  • @evilutionltd
    @evilutionltd Před měsícem +2

    I have looked at ISAs a few times but just got confused by them so didn't bother and maxed out the Premium Bonds instead.
    UK shares aren't a good idea all the time Starmer is destroying the country. Labour historically love taxing companies to the point that they just leave the country.

    • @lesleydickson7746
      @lesleydickson7746 Před 25 dny

      There’s nothing complicated about a cash ISA. You can get a one year fixed rate at at least 4.5%. No tax on interest. You can do it at your bank or online.

  • @LB-W
    @LB-W Před měsícem +3

    The government should focus on not backing companies that take advantage of the British system and economy and then move their money out of the country.
    Imagine a tree in a community garden. It uses the garden’s resources to grow, but its fruits are sent away, leaving the community without any benefits. This is like a company in the UK making money there but moving its profits abroad, not benefiting the local economy.
    This needs resolving for any meaningful change. I understand this is not desirable for those businesses. So let’s get manufacturing again and not just be a service island.

  • @seewhatifound
    @seewhatifound Před měsícem +1

    I don't like the idea of combining both cash and stock and share. Choice on who you put your cash isa with is often driven by interest rates..

  • @edchonam4906
    @edchonam4906 Před měsícem +4

    Scrapping stamp duty on buying shares should be done asap, as in asap! It's actually a disincentive from a retail investors perspective. Simplifying the ISAs would also be good.

  • @DrBretPalmer
    @DrBretPalmer Před 29 dny +1

    I think there should be one type of ISA, hold what you want. Could rename it the inheritable pension account. Have to name a person you want to leave it to. Tax free but 2% admin fee when you die to distribute the ISA to however many people you left it to. Could be open to anyone on Earth. This would bring money back into London and UK again.

  • @The_Alpha_Channel
    @The_Alpha_Channel Před měsícem +5

    25 the way to go

    • @parishesofthebuzzard9437
      @parishesofthebuzzard9437 Před měsícem

      Pension allowances down to £20k... ISA up to £40k. How much would that save, IFS?

  • @Fred-Jai
    @Fred-Jai Před měsícem +1

    The Poms have a pretty good deal with ISA accounts even at 20k, given the average income is 35k. I read this is not a retirement plan. You also separate retirement plans , state pension, workplace pension, private pension and national insurance which fund the state pension. You can't really complain, it's a pretty good wicket and incentive to save for your old age. I assume the ISA is an accumulation account limited to 20k tax free a year.

    • @juliantheapostate8295
      @juliantheapostate8295 Před měsícem

      You assume correctly. You can use ISAs for retirement though, especially as you can open them at any age whereas the private pension access age is 55

  • @JD83000
    @JD83000 Před měsícem +4

    I thought there was speculation that Labour might cap the total ISA amount to £100,000 and significantly reduce the yearly allowance.

    • @coderider3022
      @coderider3022 Před měsícem

      My isa will be 100k by apr 2026 so I hope not.

    • @flesz_
      @flesz_ Před měsícem +1

      I thought 100k is already a limit, and anything above that is taxable

    • @JD83000
      @JD83000 Před měsícem

      @flesz_ No. I have a £250,000 Stocks and Shares ISA. Entirely tax free.

    • @jkly495
      @jkly495 Před měsícem

      @@coderider3022 I wish my ISA had the same amount as your by 2026 but it has just over a couple of pounds and that no joke.

    • @johnmunro4952
      @johnmunro4952 Před měsícem +1

      It has no limit. I know people who have over £500k each ( as a couple) in ISAs and are enjoying an average 5% tax free return ( that's around £50K!!) a year from them. Must be nice

  • @sabeelm9
    @sabeelm9 Před měsícem +1

    It's not because of stamp duty, it's not that complicated. It literally is the case of what do you invest in? Most "British" companies are American!

  • @Andygb78
    @Andygb78 Před měsícem +9

    I think the main intention of the British ISA was to encourage (force) people to invest in UK equities rather than to just increase the ISA allowance by 5k.

    • @adrianm170
      @adrianm170 Před měsícem +1

      I stopped investing in UK companies when the UK gov ordered HSBC to stop paying dividends in the pandemic. That level of interference makes UK stocks too risky especially if another pandemic occurs. Switched to more profitable US growth stocks with Interactive Brokers ISA which has much lower trading and FX fees than UK brokers for US stocks. No amount of Gov interference will push me back to UK stocks.

  • @chrisbarron5861
    @chrisbarron5861 Před měsícem +1

    The lack of interest in ISAs might be in part due to the fact that rules keep changing. It's probably impossible to plan five years ahead in the current market of ISA products, you need to check every year for rule changes in order to change your strategy appropriately.

    • @JoeS-n8z
      @JoeS-n8z Před měsícem

      I disagree that the ISA rules keep changing. The basic cash Isa is the same as at the beginning except they slowly increased the amount you could put into it, the rules remained and I think then they decided you could also transfer to other providers. Having others called LISAs etc caused the problems as they seem to have rules pertaining to each type of ISA hence confusion. I say simplify and possibly add £5 k to amount to be sAved which will assist everyone especially those saving for a home. Overall there are only a small amount of people that can save the total amount so not an enormous problem tax free wise. This is from my recollections, I am happy to be contradicted or corrected! 👍🏻

    • @chrisbarron5861
      @chrisbarron5861 Před měsícem

      @@JoeS-n8z if you insist

    • @JoeS-n8z
      @JoeS-n8z Před měsícem

      @@chrisbarron5861 ☺️

  • @DanielPemberton-jv7vt
    @DanielPemberton-jv7vt Před měsícem +2

    Feel like you’ve missed the bigger picture on a couple of points here Toby. I usually totally agree with you though …
    1. 0.5% stamp duty kills big active fund managers considering the uk. While you and I might not consider it, international investment must increase if the tax is removed. Pennies to us, millions to them if they repeat trade.
    2. 7% of people max ISA. They are also the people who pay the disproportionate amount of tax. I once read that 10% of people pay 25% of the tax. If this is one small incentive for high earners to stay working in this country it think it will make a difference.

  • @aerial558
    @aerial558 Před měsícem +1

    I agree FTSE 100 is a big disappointment hence large % is going over sea’s. Excellent video👍

  • @MarkXHolland
    @MarkXHolland Před měsícem +3

    If people are too stupid to understand the differences between four simple ISAs... 🙄

  • @susannebreul7665
    @susannebreul7665 Před měsícem

    Simplifying sounds great. To open an extra account for UK shares sounds confusing. Allowing partial shares inside the ISA would be a great move for people who start small. Education is key!

  • @adrianl5899
    @adrianl5899 Před měsícem +3

    I viewed the British ISA idea simply as something that would make headlines for a desperate, jingoistic government increasingly reliant on selling some sort of warped 'patriotism' to the electorate.
    Fundamentally, if global investors avoid UK investing then the idea that £5k - from what will be a very limited number of people in the UK able to put £25k into ISAs - will make an impact is illogical.
    Personally I don't expect the ISA allowance to see an increase soon. In recent years the JISA allowance more than doubled and, including BOE (calc) inflation, the existing £20k adult rate remains a favourable uplift from its previous allowance.

  • @asadraza3122
    @asadraza3122 Před měsícem +1

    One should be able to move cash easily between stock n share ISA and cash ISA just by simple transfers.

    • @parishesofthebuzzard9437
      @parishesofthebuzzard9437 Před měsícem +1

      You can. You can also keep cash in a stocks ISA/SIPP platform and get interest on it. Then buy when the funds dip.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 Před měsícem

      you already can!

  • @Chanesmyname
    @Chanesmyname Před měsícem +19

    If anyone thinks a Labour government isn’t a bigger disaster than the last few Tory efforts, wait and see, my memory of the horrors Blair and Brown inflicted are still clear.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 Před měsícem +5

      The economy grew under New Labour as did the stock market. Unlike the last 14 years of the Tories.

    • @Sam-ue4rv
      @Sam-ue4rv Před měsícem +1

      I made so much money during the Blair and Brown Era.. was printing money back then.. Life was good..

    • @Sam-ue4rv
      @Sam-ue4rv Před měsícem +2

      @Red1Green2Blue3 that's what I thought Life was good.. Tony Blair just made a mistake with the Iraq War and being Bush's Lapdog..

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 Před měsícem

      ​@Red1Green2Blue3 The stock market grew under the Tories. You can check that for yourself.
      Labour inflicted disastrous taxation policies through the LTA tax on pensions. That was absolutely disastrous because it has forced many well educated, well paid, people to retire early rather than pay the massive tax that would be inevitable if the continued working and paying into their pension.
      We forced the best people out early and then failed to replace them in the workforce.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 Před měsícem +4

      @@timg1246 You can live in a fantasy land if you want. Arguing that the economy has been better under the Tories for the last 14 years than New Labour is just delusional.
      But we all know you're just here spewing petty partisan talking points. Please, tell us more about how Liz Truss crashing the gilt markets is good for investors 🤓

  • @TinyBabyDuckling
    @TinyBabyDuckling Před měsícem +1

    simplification will primarily help investment retail outlets simplify their bottom line costs too. Perhaps a good time to invest in HGL directly

  • @akula9713
    @akula9713 Před měsícem +6

    You can be assured that the Labour Party will do what benefits its donors, its ideology, and its disdain for the average British citizen. I’m willing to be amazed to see they can change from their traditional strategy of tax and spend. It’s just their nature.

    • @davidr7819
      @davidr7819 Před měsícem +1

      Unlike the sunlit uplands that Boris Liz and Kwasi achieved 😅

  • @randeknight
    @randeknight Před měsícem +1

    7% are maxing their allowance? That's not because people don't know how to invest, it's because they don't make that kind of money to get to the limit. I make above mean salary and there's no way I'm going to be able to save enough to hit the limit.

    • @TobyNewbatt
      @TobyNewbatt  Před měsícem

      Oh I know, I was saying that the allowance limit isn't the limiting factor for ISAs :)

  • @LindaCampbell-f4n
    @LindaCampbell-f4n Před měsícem +8

    Thanks so much to Wendy Lee Olson, I just hit 481,000 this month. Thank you for all the knowledge and great experience you have given me over the past few months. I will always follow in your footsteps!

    • @Dorothy-i9c
      @Dorothy-i9c Před měsícem

      Wow! That’s Lovely, how do I join a group class with Wendy Lee Olson? I'm new to this and need guidance.

    • @JohnLopez-k7n
      @JohnLopez-k7n Před měsícem

      So you guys have work with Wendy Lee Olson that’s encouraging, I never knew she have help many people make good financial decisions and create more wealth.

    • @villa8719
      @villa8719 Před měsícem

    • @marktilbury2521
      @marktilbury2521 Před měsícem

      I would recommend you to buy and follow the footsteps of pro to avoid losing your money in stock investments

    • @KennethTaylor-v6b
      @KennethTaylor-v6b Před měsícem +1

      There are many interesting stocks in many industries that you can follow. You don't have to act on every prediction, so I recommend working with a financial advisor who can guide you in choosing the best times to buy and sell stocks or ETFs you want to buy, for example.

  • @chrisx8707
    @chrisx8707 Před měsícem +1

    Increasing the allowance is essentially a tax break to the top 5% - most people don't have over £20k a year to put into an ISA. I don't see why a labour government would support this...

  • @GavinLawrence747
    @GavinLawrence747 Před měsícem +6

    The bottom line is that the Gov needs to cut back on the public sector spending, contrary to what Labour say, it got completely out of control under the Tories.
    I could save billions, very, very quickly.
    And nobody would even notice those people were not at their desks the next day.
    Chancellor needs to start deducting a deficit reduction tax from public sector pension contributions to help get down the debt burden.
    Everybody needs to start making some sacrifices, or this whole thing just won't work.

    • @Peter-wy2is
      @Peter-wy2is Před měsícem +1

      Public spending as a share of national income in the UK is slightly above the average of other industrial countries - the UK spends more than the US and Japan, but much less than Italy or France. With an aging, I don't see this changing, especially not considering real wage stagnation in the public sector.

    • @TomsPersonalFinance
      @TomsPersonalFinance Před měsícem +2

      What a weird tax to introduce.

    • @GavinLawrence747
      @GavinLawrence747 Před měsícem

      @@TomsPersonalFinance Indeed, but as future taxpayers are the ones who will shoulder that burden, if you are at all interested in living in a free and fair society, then those contributions need to come in line with reality.
      It isn't my opinion either, the numbers don't lie.

    • @TomsPersonalFinance
      @TomsPersonalFinance Před měsícem +2

      @GavinLawrence747 Public sector workers are taxpayers too. Their pensions aren't as amazing as they are made out to be too. The access age to get the full amount is tied to the State Pension Age, unlike private pensions. Let's not mention they're horrifically underpaid as well. If you want to live in a fair developed economy, you have to pay public sector workers fairly. Making their pensions worse will just increase their reliance on the state later down the line. Achieves nothing.

    • @TomsPersonalFinance
      @TomsPersonalFinance Před měsícem

      @GavinLawrence747 I do agree though. Something has to change, but I just don't know what that is!
      I can't pretend I know the solution.

  • @lkearney7299
    @lkearney7299 Před měsícem +1

    The 20,000 limit should at least be raised annually by inflation (as should other thresholds like the outrageous inheritance tax).

    • @northwestcoast
      @northwestcoast Před měsícem

      Nobody needs to inherit big money. A 90% tax on anything over £500k seems fair. It could be used to increase benefit payments for vulnerable adults and to reduce income taxes for those who graft

    • @parishesofthebuzzard9437
      @parishesofthebuzzard9437 Před měsícem +1

      They raise bills with inflation, but anything good is not increased. Fair!?

    • @jkly495
      @jkly495 Před měsícem

      £20,000 limit for ISA'S is more than enough each year -some people don't even earn £20000 per year never mind have the ability to save this sum. Place your monies into pensions and you will laughing.

  • @chrismajor69
    @chrismajor69 Před měsícem +2

    A lot of people don’t trust stocks and shares ISA as they are perceived to be a risky investment as they don’t understand what you can do with them . I don’t think whatever they do will make much difference. The average person who doesn’t have an interest or isn’t motivated in this subject with always find it confusing. Even if they had money to invest, which is another issue 🙂

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem

      They are risky, doesn’t matter what you can do with them.

    • @chrismajor69
      @chrismajor69 Před měsícem

      @@edc1569 you just kinda demonstrated my point , thanks 🙏

  • @Swipe650
    @Swipe650 Před měsícem +1

    My take: the £20K is unlikely to be increased, the British ISA will fizzle out into the ether as it was a previous govt's idea and I can't see them capping the tax free limit on ISAs.

    • @shaunfletcher7620
      @shaunfletcher7620 Před měsícem

      Labour have already said that they are in favour of it in principle so won't cancel it (Obviously will be dependent on outcome of review as to how it is implemented, same as would have been under previous government)

  • @hughbarr8408
    @hughbarr8408 Před měsícem +1

    Really what you are saying is the “all the smart money is exiting Britain before it’s stolen”.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Před měsícem

      The real smarter money is probably noticing that ;)

    • @hughbarr8408
      @hughbarr8408 Před měsícem

      I am an engineer who worked in Canary Wharf, doing engineering. You can call me a donkey, however, I was bright enough to tip the Lehman Brothers employees off to their impending doom. Of course, they all laughed and called me a “muppet”. Was not a pretty sight 3 months later when watching them in tears from All Bar One. Hugh

    • @hughbarr8408
      @hughbarr8408 Před měsícem

      Mike Tyson spoke it best. “Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the mouth”. Unfortunately Labour is about to deliver a kick to the groin . Everyone laughs at the phrase “you will own nothing and be happy”. It is coming !

  • @finance-fix
    @finance-fix Před 24 dny

    Stamp duty on stocks are barely a consideration when choosing which market to invest in! I agree with you

  • @user-cb4hl3do6n
    @user-cb4hl3do6n Před 28 dny

    Premium Bonds are tax free and does not come under the limit allowed also you can surrender your bonds within two to three days You can have up to £50,000 in premium bonds

  • @msvaughan
    @msvaughan Před měsícem

    I think that what is putting people off on the Stocks and Shares ISA's is the fact that you may loose money, and also you got the fee's on top of that as well. Increasing the allowance to £25,000 is a good think and would support it.
    If there is middle ground to be had, that I would have the first £20,000 and the final £5,000 as Stocks and Shares or variations of this.

  • @nibblernibbles3205
    @nibblernibbles3205 Před měsícem +1

    Better would be, if you want to invest more than £20k, it's got to be in UK equities, up to another £20k.

  • @whodaressings3493
    @whodaressings3493 Před měsícem +1

    An easy ETF containing UK stocks would do the job