EastEnders - Grant vs. Joe, Grant and Tiffany get back together (17th June 1997)

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  • As requested by @PresLover
    Joe finds out Lorraine and Grant have split up, leading to some dramatic confrontations. The experience brings Tiffany and Grant closer again.
    Originally aired on 17/06/97.
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  • @meggriffin94
    @meggriffin94 Před 6 lety +81

    Tiffany is so pretty.

    • @DeepScreenAnalysis
      @DeepScreenAnalysis Před 6 lety +19

      Tiffany always made me think of a real life Snow White. She just had the most gorgeous features, that clear skin and lovely dark eyebrows, like a Disney animated character come to life.

    • @RandomUploads-ch3bh
      @RandomUploads-ch3bh Před 6 lety +3

      Lorraine was quite nice too 😝

    • @jdmitchell2
      @jdmitchell2 Před 5 lety +4

      looks great in that dress

    • @H.K.5
      @H.K.5 Před 5 měsíci

      Grant wasn’t a bad looking bloke but I always thought Tiffany was too hot for him.

  • @sallygreen4420
    @sallygreen4420 Před 5 lety +33

    Bianca's Hair, in the beginning, looked amazing.

  • @annamartin4731
    @annamartin4731 Před 6 lety +33

    Wish Tiffany wasn't killed off.

  • @rayoflight6505
    @rayoflight6505 Před 6 lety +37

    Tiffany being killed was such a fuck up. She'd have been amazing in recent years imagine her and Sharon together with Grant in the mix.

    • @DeepScreenAnalysis
      @DeepScreenAnalysis Před 6 lety +13

      So true. Aside from the fact that she was arguably the most popular EastEnders character of the 90s, Tiffany dying seemed so forced and wrong, and unnatural for where that character was headed. She had been in an abusive relationship and and had suffered so much on the show... it sent out a really ugly message to have her killed like that, and her baby daughter given over to the man who had treated her so badly.

    • @MJQueenForever
      @MJQueenForever Před 5 lety

      And Kaffffy! Lol

    • @meridian2000
      @meridian2000 Před 3 lety +1

      But if Martine hadn't left Eastenders when she did, we wouldn't have had her music career which she wanted to do, there would be no Perfect Moment, no I've got You, no Love Me and Talking in Your Sleep, no I'm Over You and no On the Radio, so I'm glad that Martine left Eastenders when she did. Same for Patsy Palmer, Sid Owen and Ross Kemp which I'm glad they left in 1999 and 2000 to make way for new characters, such as Melanie, Steve, Lisa, Jamie, Billy and the slaters.

    • @meridian2000
      @meridian2000 Před 3 lety

      @@DeepScreenAnalysis But if Martine hadn't left Eastenders when she did, we wouldn't have had her music career which she wanted to do, there would be no Perfect Moment, no I've got You, no Love Me and Talking in Your Sleep, no I'm Over You and no On the Radio, so I'm glad that Martine left Eastenders when she did. Same for Patsy Palmer, Sid Owen and Ross Kemp which I'm glad they left in 1999 and 2000 to make way for new characters, such as Melanie, Steve, Lisa, Jamie, Billy and the slaters.

    • @smallie210
      @smallie210 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I would have liked to have seen a Grant Tiffany Sharon love triangle. It's a shame Letitia Dean left as soon as Martine McCutheon just arrived in EastEnders

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 5 lety +30

    Eastenders was so much better then. ;*(

  • @chrisrowe7503
    @chrisrowe7503 Před 5 lety +68

    Tiffany must be the only one who Peggy truely thought the world of. Even when she admitted Grant might not be the father she stuck by her. I was gutted when they killed Tiff off. Biggest mistake EastEnders made even bigger mistake than when they killed off Ronnie and Roxy in my view.

    • @bfyrth
      @bfyrth Před 5 lety +1

      yeh, except ofcourse they are fictitious characters and as such Peggy did not think anything, as it was an actor, but you were correct apart from that minor point

    • @wickedwitchoftheeast88
      @wickedwitchoftheeast88 Před 5 lety +7

      Agree Peggy always had a soft spot for Tiffany Eastenders made a massive mistake killing her off

    • @MJQueenForever
      @MJQueenForever Před 4 lety

      A-FUCKING-MEEEEEEN!

    • @chrisrowe7503
      @chrisrowe7503 Před 4 lety

      @@bfyrth Thanks for stating the obvious. However you have to speculate about characters to keep up the interest.

    • @bfyrth
      @bfyrth Před 4 lety

      @@chrisrowe7503 lol

  • @azzy840
    @azzy840 Před 4 lety +21

    I think Tiffany was the only woman Grant actually loved because he changed after she died. But Grant was such a bully back in the 90s.

    • @alannahfidler3418
      @alannahfidler3418 Před 4 lety +11

      Did you watch Eastenders in the 90s, it was obvious grants heart was with Sharon even when he was with Tiffany and why he treated her so badly. Anybody who says different mustn’t have very good observational skills.

    • @l0ndon429
      @l0ndon429 Před 4 lety +8

      @@alannahfidler3418 Agreed. As sappy as it sounds, Sharon was really the love of Grants life.

    • @MJQueenForever
      @MJQueenForever Před 3 lety +4

      In the end he realised that Tiff was "the love of his life". Shame it took so long and after sleeping with Tiff's mother! But I believe like most, you get more than one love of your life. And I truly believe he did love Sharon yes, but he also loved Tiff. They were the two loves of his life IMO. He was just troubled. He wanted his cakes and to eat them too. He and Phil were screwed up thanks to their childhood, what Eric did to them, Grant being in the army which caused PTSD... Like it does for many Veterans. He's moronic and a character in a TV soap but still....

    • @alannahfidler3418
      @alannahfidler3418 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MJQueenForever the writers even said that their entire relationship was based unrequited love so I’m not really sure why your trying to fight it. The writers even want to have grant rape Tiffany and rightfully they stopped it due to backlash you really think this was the route they were planning to go down? It is exactly the same as Phil & Lisa’s relationship only Tiffany got killed off

    • @alannahfidler3418
      @alannahfidler3418 Před 3 lety +1

      @Rose Vassiliou yes and I think the majority of us would agree that it was evident his one true love was Sharon, he was obviously arrogant and abusive to her but it was always evident that he loved her and was besotted with her. All we got from grant whilst in a relationship with tiff was he was only there for his daughter and saw her a nuisance hence why he told her to her face he didn’t love her, was willing to run away with Kathy and dump her for Lorraine hardly comparable, if you want a quote from the scriptwriter he literally said ‘grant was too damaged to ever love Tiffany properly’ you evidently missed the entire point of their relationship, you don’t fall in love with somebody because they had your kid, their age difference was obviously another factor also brought up 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @danielwebb330
    @danielwebb330 Před 6 lety +13

    This is a great eastenders channel looking forward to More uploads!

  • @dalbsterlcfc92
    @dalbsterlcfc92 Před 6 lety +4

    thx for the upload :D
    loved those scenes :)

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 5 lety +15

    This was one of the rare times Bianca came off as likable in my book. I didn't think she had it in her.

  • @neverwhere1391
    @neverwhere1391 Před 4 lety +8

    He was too ill to see he was sick. It must have been a nightmare for Lorraine, especially as she did have Grant behaving just as she described. For Joe to have a male role model like that in his life would be a worry. I know Grant meant well though, and did really love her. But she was right to end things.

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 5 lety +14

    BIANCA WAS MUCH MORE LIKABLE BACK THEN. ;*(

  • @patriciadooley5833
    @patriciadooley5833 Před 3 lety +7

    Lorraine heard all about Grant and still went there. She was worse to have an affair with him.

  • @annecheesman5958
    @annecheesman5958 Před rokem +3

    I loved Tiff. Beautiful inside and out. Such a same. Xx

  • @shahbazz6362
    @shahbazz6362 Před 4 lety +9

    Poor Tiffany

  • @kathleencaruanasmith8143
    @kathleencaruanasmith8143 Před 6 lety +25

    Aaww i loved grant and tiff together. Grant didnt treat her right, far from it but she knew what he was like and always wanted him back anyways. they was both as bad as eachother lol it was one of those relationships

    • @woahkana
      @woahkana Před 6 dny

      literally those two were just one of those couples they just kept on coming back to eachother tiff couldn’t help but still love grant even after everything grant did he did love tiffany but he just didn’t know how to show it in a healthy way he acknowledged how much he hurt Tiffany but that didn’t seem to matter to her.

  • @tommyjd12345
    @tommyjd12345 Před 4 lety +7

    poor girl, and silly girl, her own worst enemy in the end

    • @yasali6649
      @yasali6649 Před 4 lety +5

      Its just sad beacuse when tiffany first came on to the square she was storng and stubborn and beacuse grant did treat her right most of the time she became lost

  • @jakebiomask
    @jakebiomask Před 3 lety +4

    Grant was crazy, Lorraine was boring as fuck and he worshipped her, and Tiffany had an amazing personality and he treated her like rubbish.

  • @gemmaaboagye8951
    @gemmaaboagye8951 Před 4 lety +17

    If Grant changed Tiffany would not have left him

  • @saifhasan4481
    @saifhasan4481 Před 3 lety +6

    Man Tiffany is fit

  • @CourtneyComments
    @CourtneyComments Před 5 lety +5

    Episode Soundtrack:
    Sleeper : Sale Of The Century
    Kula Shaker : Tattva
    Eternal : Power Of A Woman
    Ocean Colour Scene : The Day We Caught The Train
    Louise : One Kiss From Heaven
    East 17 : Hey Child

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 4 lety

      In other words, the episode was worth watching for the music alone. Nowadays, the music would probably make me stop watching.

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 4 lety

      You missed You're Gorgeous by Baby Bird at 12:26!!!!!

    • @neverwhere1391
      @neverwhere1391 Před 4 lety +1

      And You’re Gorgeous-Babybird.

    • @neverwhere1391
      @neverwhere1391 Před 4 lety +1

      STEJTHEGREATEST Gawd, just saw this comment. 🤦🏻‍♀️😁

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 4 lety

      @@neverwhere1391 :P When does One Kiss from Heaven by Louise play????? I missed it. :(

  • @rennymusic4460
    @rennymusic4460 Před 11 měsíci

    It looks like Joe Wicks looks so much better and way more communicative than he was when he got sectioned twice under the mental health act in November 1996 & May 1997 and his skills have been improving ever since

  • @leejones8582
    @leejones8582 Před 3 lety +3

    Joe has been forgotten about

  • @CherylFrancis-fn1uf
    @CherylFrancis-fn1uf Před 3 měsíci

    About time someone put Joe in his place

  • @crispincoque
    @crispincoque Před 10 měsíci +1

    That is one cute baby! 😊👶

  • @bamz9067
    @bamz9067 Před 3 lety +3

    Grants such an abusive man.this goes to show how normalised this behavior was

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 4 lety +4

    6:45 That was the exact second Grant started thinking he might have to kill Joe.

  • @woahkana
    @woahkana Před 7 dny

    tiffany and grant were just one of those couples they just loved to hate eachother grant treated tiff like crap but she still came running back to him because she loved him and as for grant he was adamant that he didn’t want tiffany but he ended up sleeping with her anyway it’s like they had this magnetic pull to eachother they were toxic but they just couldn’t help it.

  • @tiamaria5861
    @tiamaria5861 Před 2 lety +2

    The thing that never rang true in this storyline was as if Grant would ever of chosen drippy Lorraine over Tiffany

    • @alannahfidler3418
      @alannahfidler3418 Před 2 lety +3

      Grant essentially saw Tiffany as a child & immature hence he treated her that way

    • @woahkana
      @woahkana Před 6 dny

      Exactly, he only realised what he was going to lose when Tiffany was walking out and leaving him and then he realised.,.

  • @jhibberd6290
    @jhibberd6290 Před 3 lety +5

    I think Dean Gaffney should have played Joe Wicks. He bares more than a passing resemblance to Lorraine

  • @pamelabibby180
    @pamelabibby180 Před 5 lety +4

    joey was off the rails had mental health problems to some people tiffany is like joey mental health problems is all about how you are brought up

    • @zoedark7101
      @zoedark7101 Před 5 lety +7

      No its not . it's chemical imbalance.

    • @jenniferh1104
      @jenniferh1104 Před 4 lety

      @John Gilmore public bar saloon saloon

  • @Landofnothing
    @Landofnothing Před rokem +1

    20:59 How foreshadowing

  • @jaidelacey287
    @jaidelacey287 Před 5 měsíci

    I really liked grant with Jane i wish that wasn't just a fling

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 5 lety +6

    8:05 Wow, that's just cold, Grant. Joe saw you as a badass surrogate father figure.

  • @ritamulloy3522
    @ritamulloy3522 Před rokem +1

    Get a life, Joe 🙄

    • @Unicysis
      @Unicysis Před 10 měsíci

      He can’t hear you, because he’s too busy having a go at people 😂

  • @nathanchristie8881
    @nathanchristie8881 Před 5 lety +3

    Grant vs Joe

  • @elainelydon1184
    @elainelydon1184 Před 6 lety +5

    Grants stubborn

  • @24s..
    @24s.. Před rokem

    4:34

  • @gazelliott2414
    @gazelliott2414 Před rokem

    lorraine was so hot

  • @stephanblack4558
    @stephanblack4558 Před 4 lety +2

    Joe wants to be the only gay in the village.

  • @Allaroundtheworld99
    @Allaroundtheworld99 Před 4 lety +2

    Joe is so extra fgs

  • @daniellionheart3788
    @daniellionheart3788 Před 6 lety +6

    Lorraine and Chrissie are the hottest chicks to ever be on the square

    • @H.K.5
      @H.K.5 Před 5 měsíci +1

      How are you saying that on a video including Tiffany? Lol

    • @woahkana
      @woahkana Před 7 dny

      literally like have they got eyes? 💀