Soldier blue was also a film, ending in the massacre and rape of an Indian village that was non-hostile to the Americans. One reason for the War of Independence was that the British made a treaty with the Indians not to expand west and the British KEPT their word. After the revolution the American government broke EVERY treaty they ever made with the indians. It was also a myth that the Americans were pushing the Indians ever westward, they started building colonies on the Pacific coast and expanded east. The Indians were caught in the middle with nowhere to go. Almost every American has heard of Custer's Last Stand, but most have never heard of the Battle of Wabash otherwise known as St Clair's Defeat, the biggest victory by Indians over an American army (mostly European immigrants with no military training) of 1,200 men and 200+ camp followers, only about 250 managed to escape.
It’s not war it’s conquest. The native Americans, wasn’t asking or provoking a war. Genocide is not war, slaughter is not war. Learn some history and check your privilege. From your point of view I guess slavery was an “oh well” moment too.
Carribean and central America is as close as he got. It doesn't matter because vikings were in the Americas long before. It is starting to look like Egyptians were there before the vikings.
"Stole America"🙄🤢, she has no f-cking idea what she is blathering about, Indians STOLE THE LAND FROM OTHER INDIANS, that's how Indians got to live where they lived certain territories because they STOLE IT FROM OTHER INDIANS, that is what everyone does to everyone😎 I can see why politicians target women because alot of women are AIRHEADS🤢 I like the guy in this video, the chick is an airhead🤮🤢🤡. THE BRITISH GAVE INDIANS GUNS AND SO DID THE FRENCH. The Europeans were brave and tough and NOT "cowards" like she said. They are not UK...they are English
Yes, they're British. Actually yes, 90% of american's (pre invasion) died for europan ills that they never faced, but it was mostly for Maya, Incas and Middle-Sud american civilization. In north america (native American) there were mostly single villages of people, not actual civilization. That being said, the main problem was that european was at another level, with states, army and guns. Unluckily that's the history, I agree with you that now the problem is how native American are still treated.
to be admitted the video was unedited, so respect for that. Anyway funny having seen other reactions to the song where everyone got the point of the lyrics and were appreciating the meaning of it. I mean the lyrics and their intentions are quite obvious (more than that when you know Iron Maiden). First time I saw a video where especially one guy keeps on justiyfing or relativize a clear genocide.
"We beat them fair and square". I'm with you dude. The Iron Maiden members are literally British loyalists. Steve Harris didn't write this song to shit on either side just tell it from both sides.
"We beat them fair and square"? A highly industrialised, modern, sophisticated social waving a war of colonisation and genocide against basically a Stone Age society.
Maiden are the best history teachers out there my grade 10 History teacher used their music as tool to teach some of our history lessons. way back in 1983. Reminds you of The Trooper from galloping beat to it. Hunting the Buffalo out on the Great Plains to point that they ( Buffalo ) were almost wiped out.
This is not a knock on anyone but people have to start educating themselves because the education system has never taught real history grades 1-12 in the U.S. No. Not all the original colonists engaged in taking land from the native people. In fact, there were colonists bitterly opposed to it. The Puritans were bitterly divided between the type society they wanted to establish. The sectarian Puritans who established the Massachusetts Bay Colony came to America to establish society under their religious rule. Dissent was not allowed. They were God's chosen people to establish a shining city on the hill for the world to see. Everyone else on the planet, including non-Puritan Protestants and Catholics were pagan beasts. They were justified in everything they did. But there were other Puritans led by Roger Williams who opposed them. Roger Williams established the first society on the planet based on separation of religion and civil affairs, individual soul liberty (including anti-Christians) and freedom of expression. They bought their land from the native people because they were opposed to the taking of native lands. Roger Williams tried to pass legislation abolishing slavery in the original colonies. We're talking an original colony that became Rhode Island. We're talking a guy whose writings inspired John Locke who the founding fathers referred to. Americans are sold a false history. There have been people fighting against the taking of everything from the native people and slavery the entire freaking time. There is no excuse. It's not the way things always were. It wasn't the only choice. Nothing has changed. It's still the two products of the same two groups of people. Liberal minded pluralists versus conservative minded sectarians. Those willing to risk what is gained on inclusiveness and those who are not. As adrian burchell pointed out, one of the main reasons for the American revolution was the treaty the King of England signed with the French that banned westwards expansion onto native lands. And I can guarantee you there were people in the colonies who did not want their fellow Europeans taking native American lands. All the people standing opposed to the taking and slavery and all the rest of the sectarian crap have had to live in basic horror throughout all of American history. And for those who believe the native people throughout America were a bunch of warmongering savages, how is it that the Lewis & C;ark expedition managed to go all the way to the west coast and back with less than 50 people? The only death during the entire expedition being due to appendicitis. 862 days. Establishing relations with two dozen Native American nations including the Lakota who were reportedly fighting with the Omaha. How did individual trappers exist within the Nations? Don't buy into the crap. The native people were encroached upon, their lands taken and treated as savage animals by people who were coming from utterly insane European cultures that had been killing one another for centuries. The killing in Europe for two thousand years evolved into "civilized killing and taking machines". It's what they did. It's what they were great at.
But they didn't die that quick till white man came with their diseases and killed most of them off read your history they were pure with no illnesses to Europeans came
Soldier blue was also a film, ending in the massacre and rape of an Indian village that was non-hostile to the Americans. One reason for the War of Independence was that the British made a treaty with the Indians not to expand west and the British KEPT their word. After the revolution the American government broke EVERY treaty they ever made with the indians.
It was also a myth that the Americans were pushing the Indians ever westward, they started building colonies on the Pacific coast and expanded east. The Indians were caught in the middle with nowhere to go.
Almost every American has heard of Custer's Last Stand, but most have never heard of the Battle of Wabash otherwise known as St Clair's Defeat, the biggest victory by Indians over an American army (mostly European immigrants with no military training) of 1,200 men and 200+ camp followers, only about 250 managed to escape.
It’s not war it’s conquest. The native Americans, wasn’t asking or provoking a war. Genocide is not war, slaughter is not war. Learn some history and check your privilege. From your point of view I guess slavery was an “oh well” moment too.
Lol get wrecked.
'check your privilege" 🙄🙄🙄
Wow I didn't think most idiotic comment of the day would go to some moron on a CZcams Iron Maiden reaction from a week ago. Congratulations.
You should learn some history. The natives were doing the same thing to each other. Resources are what they wanted.
So true this reaction is totally bogus he has no reason to say that it's like America was stolen from the true American which is a Native American
Christopher columbus never set foot in USA
Carribean and central America is as close as he got. It doesn't matter because vikings were in the Americas long before. It is starting to look like Egyptians were there before the vikings.
Google history before to react to this song!
"Stole America"🙄🤢, she has no f-cking idea what she is blathering about, Indians STOLE THE LAND FROM OTHER INDIANS, that's how Indians got to live where they lived certain territories because they STOLE IT FROM OTHER INDIANS, that is what everyone does to everyone😎 I can see why politicians target women because alot of women are AIRHEADS🤢 I like the guy in this video, the chick is an airhead🤮🤢🤡. THE BRITISH GAVE INDIANS GUNS AND SO DID THE FRENCH. The Europeans were brave and tough and NOT "cowards" like she said. They are not UK...they are English
And they were both vanquished in a timely manner....@@profanepersonality
Yes, they're British.
Actually yes, 90% of american's (pre invasion) died for europan ills that they never faced, but it was mostly for Maya, Incas and Middle-Sud american civilization.
In north america (native American) there were mostly single villages of people, not actual civilization.
That being said, the main problem was that european was at another level, with states, army and guns.
Unluckily that's the history, I agree with you that now the problem is how native American are still treated.
Yeah, I mean why hate the Nazis? It was war, shit happens. It sucks, but it isnt bad, right? 😂😂😂😂
Best metal band ever walked at earth .
Next song = Rime of the ancient mariner - live ;)
Iron Maiden Rules
How you both don't know iron maiden? One of gret bands of heavy metal?
It was war to take the Native Land. 😉
One of the best Maiden Song.
No there was no war they just took it ,as an Objiwa from CANADA i know the truth!!
to be admitted the video was unedited, so respect for that. Anyway funny having seen other reactions to the song where everyone got the point of the lyrics and were appreciating the meaning of it. I mean the lyrics and their intentions are quite obvious (more than that when you know Iron Maiden). First time I saw a video where especially one guy keeps on justiyfing or relativize a clear genocide.
I'm shocked how little you know of American history, especially how little you have. Soldier blue is a reference to the US cavalry, not the Europeans.
Up the Irons
If you like storytelling, Iron Maiden is your group!
"We beat them fair and square". I'm with you dude. The Iron Maiden members are literally British loyalists. Steve Harris didn't write this song to shit on either side just tell it from both sides.
"We beat them fair and square"? A highly industrialised, modern, sophisticated social waving a war of colonisation and genocide against basically a Stone Age society.
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Dumb
Up The Irons 🤘
Maiden are the best history teachers out there my grade 10 History teacher used their music as tool to teach some of our history lessons. way back in 1983. Reminds you of The Trooper from galloping beat to it. Hunting the Buffalo out on the Great Plains to point that they ( Buffalo ) were almost wiped out.
Wasted years has to be your next reaction
soldier blue refers to the united states after the civil war
just like a white eyes,
Up The Irons
"Are" should be "the" 👍
Hahaha you guys are funny
History is often an ugly one, but that's why we hopefully learn from it and make things better for all people
I have a feeling that's how all countries are made, ours would just the most recent
Give the song My name is Mud by Primus a listen.
una verdadera Princesa 😍😍
Perhaps you guys should use lyrics when reacting to videos and meanings clearly over your heads.
Vayaanseee 🤑
De que planeta vienen ??
Poor review
Check out Lizzy Borden tomorrow never comes or american metal or live and let die
This is not a knock on anyone but people have to start educating themselves because the education system has never taught real history grades 1-12 in the U.S.
No. Not all the original colonists engaged in taking land from the native people. In fact, there were colonists bitterly opposed to it. The Puritans were bitterly divided between the type society they wanted to establish. The sectarian Puritans who established the Massachusetts Bay Colony came to America to establish society under their religious rule. Dissent was not allowed. They were God's chosen people to establish a shining city on the hill for the world to see. Everyone else on the planet, including non-Puritan Protestants and Catholics were pagan beasts. They were justified in everything they did.
But there were other Puritans led by Roger Williams who opposed them. Roger Williams established the first society on the planet based on separation of religion and civil affairs, individual soul liberty (including anti-Christians) and freedom of expression. They bought their land from the native people because they were opposed to the taking of native lands. Roger Williams tried to pass legislation abolishing slavery in the original colonies. We're talking an original colony that became Rhode Island. We're talking a guy whose writings inspired John Locke who the founding fathers referred to.
Americans are sold a false history. There have been people fighting against the taking of everything from the native people and slavery the entire freaking time.
There is no excuse. It's not the way things always were. It wasn't the only choice.
Nothing has changed. It's still the two products of the same two groups of people. Liberal minded pluralists versus conservative minded sectarians. Those willing to risk what is gained on inclusiveness and those who are not.
As adrian burchell pointed out, one of the main reasons for the American revolution was the treaty the King of England signed with the French that banned westwards expansion onto native lands.
And I can guarantee you there were people in the colonies who did not want their fellow Europeans taking native American lands. All the people standing opposed to the taking and slavery and all the rest of the sectarian crap have had to live in basic horror throughout all of American history.
And for those who believe the native people throughout America were a bunch of warmongering savages, how is it that the Lewis & C;ark expedition managed to go all the way to the west coast and back with less than 50 people? The only death during the entire expedition being due to appendicitis. 862 days. Establishing relations with two dozen Native American nations including the Lakota who were reportedly fighting with the Omaha. How did individual trappers exist within the Nations?
Don't buy into the crap. The native people were encroached upon, their lands taken and treated as savage animals by people who were coming from utterly insane European cultures that had been killing one another for centuries. The killing in Europe for two thousand years evolved into "civilized killing and taking machines". It's what they did. It's what they were great at.
Conquest besides they natives did not have much problem killing each other off.
But they didn't die that quick till white man came with their diseases and killed most of them off read your history they were pure with no illnesses to Europeans came