AI makes the difference! - ROG Delta S Wireless
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro gone wrong
0:15 Looking at the box and talking features
1:14 Unboxing
1:35 Adam goes bananas
2:14 Looking at the earcups
3:12 Build quality impressions
3:47 Mic and other headphone features
4:32 Fit and feel impressions
5:17 Setup
5:48 Music listening impressions
6:52 Software impressions
7:47 Mic and AI noise cancellation testing - Traffic
8:56 Mic and AI noise cancellation testing - Typing
9:20 Gaming impressions
10:10 Overall thoughts
10:37 Outro - Věda a technologie
Lack of RGB is a plus for any wireless headphone allows one to play for hours in stead of recharging every half hour.
I own the XT and they last like all day with rgb blasting
Less unwanted attention stares from outdoor usage too
The lights are LEDs, not incandescent light bulbs......
usually one can turn off RGB, or set it to only operate while charging... giving the best of both worlds (minus a little extra weight)
In general most "Gamer" headsets are pretty terrible.
This is why I prefer the Corsair Virtuoso XT's, they are much better in every single way, audio quality, build quality, and have more useful features. You also get a near broadcast quality microphone on the Virtuosos. And you can set the tiny amount of RGB to just be on when running on cable, so you get the best of both worlds.
This is one of the strangest short circuits I have watched, and I saw Linus dig in a a cake for a dbrand sponsorship money
Yeah. Like we understand it's sponsored but strange that Asus would even go there with 'gaming' headsets when they know LMG, and many viewers, don't prefer gaming headsets over proper headphones.
i mean... imagine being the guy that animated the jungle thing. but also, being on a huge channel like this and pretending to be a monkey.,
@@TheMyleyD fax. Gaming headphones are bad
@@toobskuiks116
Well especially when they want $200 for them I mean come on. You very much are stepping on toes with "gaming headphones" at that price.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu even for 100 dollar you can get much better sounding headphones than this
The fact that Dennis is in the background this whole time
@@jordank195 That's because they credited the wrong video. Dennis actually appeared in the Soundcore Space A40/Q45 video.
@@that_green_neko Thank you!
First he says: "If it's bad at music, it's bad at whatever it's supposed to do"
IMMEDIATELY his next sentence: "I wouldn't call this an excellent listening experience for music, but that's not really the intention of it."
Yeah, that sequence of words caught my attention as well
Was searching for this comment. Editor should've picked that up lol
I think he kind of just meant that if the sound is horrible for music then the overall experience isn't going to be great. In this case it was kind of tuned towards boosting the low bass, which isn't really what you want for music, in terms of tuning but it doesn't mean it's a bad set of headphones, it's mostly just the tuning causing the issue
not excellent doesn't mean the same thing as bad lmao
You should've included the jumpscare
this video was not the one from the short with dennis being the tree haha
There is one very important test for a headphones that pretty much no one does, and LTT and Labs can be bit of trailblazer by including it in default rundown of features: how cups fits for a person with glasses. How cup shape and material interact with glasses' temples.
Yes there is. I've seen plenty of reviewers put on glasses to give opinion. Hardware canucks for example, with Dmitri I think his name is
rtings does this
My Sennheiser headphones have similar ear cups. I found the best way to get them back on is to slip them into the groove at the top and bottom and then work the sides. It can be annoying.
Where’s Dennis hiding?
Fr I thought I missed the jump scare in this video
Indeed!
same, I came just to see Dennis, and hes nowhere to be found
i came here specifically to see dennis scare you, but he wasnt even in frame smh
im using an ROG Delta Core and the overall build quality and sound quality is great, although the leather headband and leather earcups have deteriorated quite a lot after 1.5 years of usage, but it's normal for a gaming headset to be like that so im kinda fine with it, will consider upgrading to this
Yet again, people with glasses are doomed to have their earcups being torn apart someday. I would have love to see a similar design as other headset which are designed to let the branches go throught on a tougher material.
But hey, I might be the only one wearing glasses with a skinny all metal frame, which isn't helping to keep my earcups in a good shape
Having a recessed USB-C port isn't a "feature". I've had to buy and return many cables because of design choices like that.
That said, the bit that plugs in seems to be relatively thick, so maybe it won't be too much of a hindrance.
Agreed. Recessed port screams proprietary bullcrap to me.
My question is, do you need the windows app running to get the AI noise canceling to work or is it processed in the headset?
If it enables me to have AI noise canceling on Linux then I will buy the headphones immediately.
That "Discord/Teamspeak certified" sounds a lot like marketing BS to me. I have a $10 generic microphone, works with discord no issues. If your PC recognizes your microphone, so should Discord and any other software. Whether it sounds good or not does not depend wholely on Discord either, but on the microphone itself.
It's complete bullshit, yes. They work on whatever microphone your OS recognizes. I'm surprised it wasn't brought up.
It may be marketing BS, but it’s marketing BS that actually is pushed by Discord. They have a list of headsets that meets their… standards for audio quality and usability.
@@bubbledoubletrouble I know, I went to Google to see if it's actually a thing and apparently it is. But this is kinda like saying your keyboard and mouse are Discord certified, because they work well in Discord.
@Dokki . but it sounds worse than my current headphones.
I cant speak for this headset cause I dont know the features but usually „certified for“ means you will:
- get support for that software and hardware playing along
- have features like button-mapping and stuff (e.g. pick up calls in certain software pressing a key you choose on the headset)
- any other stuff exclusive working on that software
You can hook your Jabra Evolve to any software you need a mic but it will only pick up those incoming Team calls by pressing a button and no other software will work its not certified for…
For $200 you should get simultaneous bt and 2.4, not either or. I’ve got a headset I spent an embarrassing amount of money on with simultaneous connection and it is fantastic because I still hear texts and calls, but I can hear my game at the same volume. At least these don’t auto switch when you get a call, which I used to have and I hated it. You couldn’t even turn it off. Mine are the Corsair virtuoso xt, and aside from the need to get bigger earcups, they are great
Here after the CSF tree short
You can check the supported codecs in developer options in android devices.
What is the difference between bt mode and 2.4ghz mode when bluetooth uses the 2.4ghz frequency too? Or is it using the wifi connection?
There isn’t really anything below 30 hertz, the boomy bass frequencies that are always tuned too loud on most headphones are between 50 and 30 hertz.
Once again, Alex remains on the money regarding headsets. Don’t buy gaming audio gear, buy used music gear. That said, I do respect the use of USB-C & replaceable ear-cups.
dont buy music gear bruh just buy some good studio monitors and a decent pair of overars like r70x or even hd560s (the only "good" headphone senny still makes)
@@aounrcs8498 how are good studio monitors and hd560s not music gear? They might not necessarily be music production gear, but their main purpose is literally for listening to music.
@@aounrcs8498 bruh whats wrong with my HD 650s. Bro i spent 300€ on these bitches dont make me cry
That is all goog until you want something with mic. Dont mention modmic, I am talking budget class
The PC38X are a pretty damn good sounding "gaming Headset"
Look out for that tree! 🤣
WHERE IS DENNIS HERE?
I wish they would do an unboxing of the VZR Model One. I'm curious on the sound.
Considering LTT Labs I would really like to see a Audio Latency Test for Wireless Headphones, Latency Tests for all kinds of Wireless Peripherals would be really helpful.
Rtings does this already so I can't imagine labs won't do this aswell
Are yall going to review the new Sennheiser momentum 4's? I heard they will be on par to the sony xm5
I'd like to see what would happen if you had these with the mic nc on + rtx voice + discord krisp
Would you get no noise and perfectly clean voices? Would you be fully muted? Would you get an insane ammount of strange noises? We must see
Having RTX and Krisp on at the same time just makes you sound more robotic, only use 1.
Editor: "What do you mean 'edit out when he walks to the banana tree'?"
Is it possible to have a range test on the wireless headphones and earbuds? I use mine with bluetooth during outside yard work while playing music off my ipad in the house as I do not own a cell phone, and my ipods don't have wireless. Keep damaging the wired ones. Thanks.
About time the best cost to performance headset goes wireless. If you haven’t tried the word variant def give them a go if you’re on the market. Next best option is neutral profiled hifi cans for studio monitoring ( excellent imaging).
came here from the yt short
it would be cool if you guys do head to head comparison of the sennheiser momentum 4 and sony xm5
Whats up with companies slaping the word AI on everything
Honestly, I prefer the MPOW-059, but this looks good quality.
What laptop do you use? The matt black looks really good
"If it's a good set of headphones, it's good for everything, if it's bad at music it's bad at what it's intedended for"
Listens to music, realises it's bad, also realises it's a sponsored video.
"I wouldn't call it an excellent listening experience but that's not really the intention"
And that's why it's not called a review, and they're completely open about the sponsorship.
He should of fiddled with the EQ after that to give a baseline and what its potential is. I have senns that I maintain multiple different EQ profiles saved just to swap depending on the genre. Point being he should have toyed with the damn eq before filming cause they probably sound a lot better for music with a different v curve.
Adams linus cosplay was pretty good
The battery life is very good for sure but the sound cancelation and the microfone really surprised me a lot
Sure would be dope if those yellow bananas for scale were in stock.
can we please standardize magnetic earcup cushions
YES, if you have a old PC teamspeak uses very little resures.
I think I'll stick with my DT 1990...
I got this headset 25% off with pre order 6 days ago and it’s great. The only downside is that it comes with short cable and it’s wireless only.
so the cable is only for charging not dirrect connect?
@@greenphoenix7365 yep
Petition to compare wireless headsets with regular old wireless headphones from brands like Sony and Bose!
I have to imagine you're getting worse sound for your money. The microphone and latency could be the tie-breaker though!
I have a RIG 600 Pro HX. It has similar ideas to the Delta S Wireless, since it has a USB-C 2.4Ghz receiver the same way the ROG Delta S Wireless has, but it's compatible with the Xbox. Planning to get one of these ROG Delta S Wireless headsets soon in May.
042 - I'd like to go back to TS, to be honest. Way better audio quality, device settings don't reset randomly, keyboard attenuation, and many more good things. Believe it or not, Discord doesn't work with every microphone or audio interface, or mixer (hardware or software - it has some issues with voicemeeter). On the other hand, TS works with a potato on a stick.
Less resource intensive is why I'm still using ts
@@rishi0299 Less social media is also nice, sometimes i wish we would go back to teamspeak just because going "i wanna game" and join ts without knowing whos there and what theyre playing was way easier.
I would be a lot less annoyed by everyone using discord if they made some of their features work correctly and fixed the latency. Latency is more of a issue than i think many people realize, if two people start talking within the latency window, both of them think they started talking first (because from their point of view, they both DID start talking first) which leads to a lot of overlap. It's not as simple as saying don't talk over people, with enough latency you really can't tell.
Audio ducking would be nice if it worked right (this automatically lowers the volume of everything else when someone starts talking, so you can have your game audio or music playing at the level you like, and get quiet when someone is talking.
Last i tried priority speaker didn't work well either. these are all features vent, TS and mumble all had working years before discord came onto the scene.
that's not to mention the huge amount of screen realestate discord takes up as well.
@@animefreak5757 oh yeah, and the thing when you join the vc, there is like 3 seconds before you connect to the voice server but people already see you in the channel and talk to you while you can't hear them. The only feature that I want from Discord on TS is screenshare.
@@animefreak5757 audio ducking is built into windows? It also exists under voice & video > attenuation and toggle "when others speak", and for me has worked fine.
Can the headset do Bluetooth and 2,4ghz simultaneously?
Is thease head phones or any headphones are tested for people who wear glases ?? That is my big question ! As the sound usually are distorted .. with glases on.
Still nice to watch these reviews, but I stopped using gaming headsets about 18 months ago, and now use my HiFiMAN HE4xx or Beyerdynamic DT770 pro 250ohn through an ifi zenDAC and THX AAA780 amp with a modmic usb, mainly because I was too lazy to change over headphones one day and it just ruined my Logitech g935 after that
Would love to hear these speakers via a sound blaster card doing the processing..
you cant, they are usb ....
Can you review please the "steel series arena 9" surround sound system
So do these only reduce the sound on the mic, or do they also work as regular noise canceling headphones? I’m more interested in the latter.
these are far from ideal for noise cancelling especially since passive isolation is low
Anyone know if this has built in sidetone? I find that headsets with this are great for preventing me from yelling while trying to talk normal.
they mentioned low passive isolation so sidetone is probably unnecessary
Still hard to beat the steelseries arctis pro wireless with the hotswap batteries
Asus in comparison to SHP9500 + fiio BTR5? which is better for gaming?
or shp9500 + $1 aliexpress mic
or other headphones + mic around $200 range?
I like my SHP9500 plus vmoda boom pro for gaming. Extremely comfortable
The Asus is still just a gaming headset, as most people say you'd be better going for better audio gear instead. Although with the SHP9500 a btr5 is not necessary as they are only 32 ohms so will run just fine plugged into anything, not to mention the btr5 is nearly as expensive as the headphones so you should just put that money towards better headphones as they are always the most important factor. I have not used SHP9500's before, but I've heard that AKG K612 Pro's are good for only slightly more, and hd6xx's are currently on offer at Massdrop which I personally own and definitely recommend, although you may want an amp for these so overall more expensive.
@@alexbarnett321 I had to rewatch it. I thought the headphone was wireless.
I got the shp9500 for $50 (including tax) during my travel. Picked up the BTR5 because….. iPhone does not have a headphone jack for my iem and the price difference between BTR3 and BTR5 was only $10. Great review though. I hope Linus tech tips will review audiofile level gear with the new labs because when I was young I thought you needed a gaming headset…. You know so I can blame something. Plus it will open everyone’s eyes to what is out there. IEMs included.
Thank you
@@NA-dt5sz I agree totally about the labs, with all the work and money they've put into audiofile gear testing I'm sure they'll do great especially as more simplified and easy to understand than some more hardcore channels, if your needing the btr for a phone that makes much more sense, especially the 5 being a good price for what it is and it would still be very useful if you ever decide to upgrade
honestly for people on a budget I recommend getting clearance versions of last year's premium model. I got a $400 headphone for $200 this way. and with the chip shortage and inflation I expect newer models to cut corners to keep costs down. granted you won't get the latest AI tech or USBtC charging (the latter is still annoying), but you will still get quality sound at a reasonable price.
Have you ever thought about doing a review on woojer edge?
Surprisingly yes, people still use team speak, one of my coworkers refuses to use discord or anything else
Discovered the existence of these fanatics recently myself
I still use TeamSpeak just because it doesn't hog memory and I switch to discord if I wanna screen share or stream games
@@rishi0299 hey no hate! You like what you like! I always make little jokes about TeamSpeak but at the end of the day what works for you works for you
@@LegionEmu396 Hey I didn't mistake u for disliking! I was just saying what my use case is. Nothing bad.
I literally JUST purchased new headphones two days ago... what is with my luck!
I've seen these a month or two ago on their site, and i want to buy them, but there is nowhere to buy them where i from 🤯
I stg if Labs uses bananas-for-scale as a unit of measurement I’m gonna lose it
Alrighty, the banana in the tree bit got me. Hilarious.
4:05 - RTX sound or RTX voice is now a part of NVIDIA Broadcast
this looks better than Sony's aside for general use aside from the look that has gamer loo which it's weird if I want to use it outside.
Really nice mic for wireless and no micarm
"Ooo I'm ultimating" 9:12
Does it work on the steamdeck?
“Ooh it’s headphones” **crickets** hahahaha
any word on Aptx support?
Til
On paper seems very nice, but that would need to do better if Asus want people to change from a Logitech G Wireless Pro X to their headphones specially with that price im seeing the logitech one floating between 150-200 dollars new
Reminds me of the corsair void
Could you start trying these out with people who wear glasses? I'd love some over ear headphones, but every one I try after about 15 mins or so, the back of my ears are as sore as hell from cup pressure on the arms.
Below 30Hz? Gunshots are way up higher in the frequencies.
I legit thought it was a young Luke on the thumbnail!
If you count 1 banana to 4 its a perfect shot pour for a adult beverage it's in my head for ever even do it with my coffee creamer pour lol
How about bluetooth quality and latency?
no support for low latency aptx codec, or any other advanced codec actually.
Xbox Support via the 2,4ghz dongle?
Nice but I'll keep my Arctis 7x, 1 headset for my PC Series X PS5 and Switch and they sound incredible.
Polyester exterior, major fail there. Those will be huge sweat traps..
"I'm ultimating" sounds like sth you could use on the bed
Those are some big chungus earcups :)
I don't know how I feel about having A.I. in my headphones.
i doubt there's AI in your headphones.
they probably just come with bloated software that you have to run on your pc that contains a crappy version of rtx voice.
so, there's zero value to this feature, considering you can put AI software on any headset's mic
@@stephenkamenar it works on ps4, so there's a chance that it really is in the headphones.
Are you just a boomer afraid of new things? There is literally no rational reason to oppose using AI to improve listening experience if it is a viable option.
@@MrGamelover23 interesting. would be nice if the review mentioned any of this. these reviews are so bad. just a bit of marketing and first impressions
@@stephenkamenar It's not a review. Shortcircuit doesn't do reviews, it's an unboxing + first impressions
Can you start doing glasses tests? I've bought many headsets only to find after 30 minutes of use I'll start to get really bad headaches from the clamp pressure on the glasses. Exactly the reason I'm still using my 5 year old Razer Krakens, only "cheaper" (within my budget) headset that I can wear for hours with no problems
he does mention clamping pressure is low, but I'm sure the glasses 🤓 wearing community would prefer something more definitive.
@@sim2er clamping pressure is all well and good but I don't think anyone with glasses has ever done the testing (correct me if wrong)? With these new heads they've got, I'm hoping they can adapt testing to include glasses somehow
But is it Ventrilo certified?
Amazingly detailed review, 👍
The jungle edit was "nice" but pls more zoomed like sped up instead
What about the headband, is that breathable? At this price point much more of their audience is balding and that's just as important to us as the earcups. HS80 RGB failed hard at this. Nice plush earcups but leatherette on the headband.
Teamspeak is still more easily integrated into games for things like modded proximity or radio communication systems compared to discord, thats the main reason i see it used myself.
Also, i hate those replaceable ear cups. That stupid thin plastic interface is the most finniky and unsatisfying thing. Magnets or clips next time please
My last ROG headset was the most comfortable headset I have ever used.
What ROG headset was?
@@Maxpowa6297692 I don't remember what model it was it was 6 years ago
48,000 kHz? I might be wrong, but I think that it is 48 kHz, or 48,000 Hz.
In what world is that a meter ?!
0:41 Teamspeak still is the best voip out there, it would have been weird if they would've printed on the box to be certified for Ventrilo.
No, it's not. It was already bad in the Ventrilo age, TS was only holding up because it was cheap compared to Vent. After Mumble was released and especially now when you have Discord or even Steam Voice channels for groups there is no reason to use TS.
I agree, TS sounds the best not to mention the encryption. Discord is great as a messaging app for communities but the vox is terrible (though their voice detection is better I think but who doesn't use push to talk?? I don't want to hear your dad noises lol) plus they own everything you do on there, like every other social media app. Not sure if it's still true but you used to have to pay for a decent bit rate with Discord so you're really only gaining a messenger (in comparison to paying for TS) which I already have plenty of anyways but TS5 is coming, eventually, probably.
Yea, TS is basically the best option you have if you don't want all your life sold to the highest bidder. Too bad most people don't really care about privacy
3:21 you think that is "descent" who has that big of a head you need it to flex 360 degrees
the banana for scale is quite annoying. funny the first time, but an actual measurement would be a lot more useful to everyone
the only wireless headset I’d ever use is the hyperx cloud alpha wireless cuz of the 300 hour battery life. just get wired if it’s only 24 hours lol
what I'd like is basically a wired model but with a quick disconnect cable for occasional wireless use. I'd also like to know if those magnetic tipped cables affect the sound since drivers operate magnetically too.
@@sim2er that’d be dope. esp with those magnetic charger cables cuz they’d make charging even easier
I have a question though, how's the bass? I mean my current headphones is not satisfactory since I love a headphone with amazing bass since I love to listen to Linkin Park..............
Yes, people use TeamSpeak to cut all the "free" features of other software and not be dependant on public crap servers
"Ooh... I'm ultimating! 😳"
I love that he mentioned every console but Xbox lol
ok, cool cool cool cool.... sounds interesting. I was aiming 4 HyperX but... now i will reconsider