He don’t speak for the world he speak for the boomers, everyone knows Lebron is better in every way! It’s really pathetic how some MJ fans are so blind they can’t see it!
Jordan accomplished more in less time, his peak is higher but LeBrons longevity of course has surpassed Jordan. The greatest peak of dominance seen on the court is MJ, backed by factual stats and accolades!
@@mikailcarbo8723 So peak is a players prime across time which LeBron is no match for MJ as he had 2 3 peats in his prime(he was finals mvp for all 6), 10 scoring titles, 3 steals titles, was DPOY..more rings and more mvps than LeBron. In a given season u mention more assists rebounds( he should have more with his size) & 3 point percentage. Lebron’s peak in Blocks is not above MJ. So MJ is above LeBron in a given season during their peak in PPG, Steals, Blocks, FT%, FG%. Even in Jordan’s first finals he averaged 31 ppg and 11 assists per game..Bron has never averaged 11 assists per game in a playoff series or in the finals. Even Jordan’s peak 3 point percentage in a season is above LeBron. A steals title is team reliant? A scoring title is team reliant? DPOY is team reliant? League MVP is team reliant? Cmon now. A couple of those the team success matters but not more than individual dominance.
@@leandreballew2566I don’t speak on accolade you get from VOTESS. DPOY, MVP is VOTEDDDD not statistical. Lebron dominating at 40. If Jordan was in the nba right now he would b Demar Derozan or Devin Booker with hops.
Even if they're lucky enough to get past the Nuggets that doesn't guarantee they beat the Mavs or Wolves or Suns, etc. Lakers are inconsistent and poorly execute against good teams in crunch time.
So getting past the first round makes you the Goat? 😂 Even if he wins the championship he needed AD and had no reason to be in the play in. The bar has really been lowerd since Jordan retired.
SAS is such a clown ....next take ..." if LBJ Can win a Championship at the age of 50 ...he officially pass MJ . Soooo MJ Can be The GOAT Because his Peak was Higher for a Much Shorter Period / But LBJ Cannot be considered the GOAT with his Peak Starting Younger Lasting Forever and still Dominating in year 21 ???
Over when MJ has a DPOY, 9 more scoring titles, more walk off game winners, higher alltime PER, 1 more ring, 3 more steals titles, 1 more league MVP, more averaged points in the regular season, postseason and the finals? Your saying MJ won’t even be in the conversation?
@@leandreballew2566 9 more scoring titles yet only averaging less than 3 points per game? that just shows how weak his competition was. Try winning scoring titles in the 2000s with Kobe Iversion and them boys.
@@jerryren4076 lol that’s your counter even when Jordan averaged 37 in a season with hand checks..🤦🏽♂️..I guess LeBron would have no rings if he wouldn’t have formed teams and teamed up with other stars…..lol that’s actually a fact!
@@leandreballew2566 Handchecks are a joke, a more physical era would only benefit the more physical player more, which in this case is Bron - 260 lbs freight train
What if “lebron” pulls off the upset? Not the lakers. 🤦🏾♂️ so he’s out there by himself now? If the lakers do beat them it’ll be more because of AD if anything.
All yall laker fans in the comments might as well pipe down.y’all always using some kind of angle to continue this GOAT debate.just STOP IT ALREADY.JORDAN ALL DAY EVERYDAY.😂😂
What if Towns/Edwards, Shai/Holmgren, Booker/Durant, Leonard/George.....etc go crazy in the playoffs. Luka/Irving? There's way more talent in the league than just the damn Lakers!!!
STRAIGHT BS IF Y'ALL THINK LEBRONZE WILL BE BETTER THAN JORDAN. ALL Y'ALL SOUND LIKE🤡. Y'ALL BEEN TRYING TO PUSH LEBRONZE ON THE PEOPLE FOR YEAR'S BUT THAT BS NOT WORKING WITH ME AND A LOT OF MORE PEOPLE. AIN'T Y'ALL TIRED OF THE LEBRONZE AND JORDAN DEBATE BS🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
People are too prisoners of the moment Jordan never even won a series while Kareem was in the league There are levels to this 1) Kareem 2)Lebron 3) Jordan
He had no good teammates at all and went against Alltime dynasty’s . Celtics , lakers , pistons etc. no one wins alone. Lebron can’t win without Ad , Kyrie , Wade
Nuggets won't allow LeBron to bully his way to the rim at will (unless it's their game plan). Bron will be forced to settle for jump shots which he'll mostly miss in the clutch. Along with AD's broken jump shot and fear of taking it to Jokic at the rim....Denver in 5.
AD wants revenge. They have Gabe Vincent austin reaves, DLO cooking when dlo and schroder were terrible last year against denver. Lebron has shot 40 percent from three this entire year. Lebron's career is narrowing down. The lakers chem is starting to cook. They know that they have to make jokic a scorer and not a facilitator. Let's see what happens. I give the lakers a decent chance against the nuggets. Anything can happen in the playoffs.
Funny because without pip Jordan got swept in the first round twice. Without pip all Jordan could do was win scoring titles. While goat James will take anyone to the finials. Goat James bu a mile
@williambaldwin6241 u funny. LeBron has only won titles with other superstars. Pip wasn't a superstar. He was a great sidekick. LeBron has had Dwade and Allen, with kyrie and with AD. LeBron needed other superstars to make it happen.
@@prestonscott9676 Did you say Pippen was not a star player? I don't think you have been watching basketball to make such a remark. When Jordan retire the first time, Pippen led the Bulls to the Conference Finals a very big accomplishment because when Pippen wasn't there Michael Jordan was getting swept in the first round. Pippen is also accomplished too: 8 defensive all nba team, 3 times all-nba first team 7 times all-star. People are saying Lebron played with stars like D-wade and Chris Bosh were a shell of themselves always getting injured year in year out same with Kyrie and Kevin Love both injury-prone. Lebron actually carried them all. Ray Allen was a role player way past his prime not a star player at the time he teamed with Lebron. The best player Lebron ever played with is AD cause this season he has played like 76 games and he finally healthy while AD has missed so many times the last 5 seasons again another player that is always hurt. Overall Lebron has played with so many star players that has been hurt that if you combined how many games they have missed probably more than 1,000 games that he had to carry all of them throughout the times he has played with them. You saying Lebron has only won titles with other superstar is such a dumb statement. So that means you have acknowledged that Jordan has won with another star player like Scottie Pippen because before Pippen arrived he was getting swept in the first round and by the way before Lebron starting playing with star players, he actually never lost in the first round and made it to the Finals without any star players which Jordan never did.
Kwame brown was right when he said the media wants too now find a way too make lebron the goat too continue talking about him when his gone like they did with mj since the next generation wont talk about mj anymore
Kwame Brown is the most bitter ex you’ll ever hear about. He was suppose to be the first LBJ he loved the attention then. He just blew his opportunity don’t hate on another man that seized it
This has to be all about ratings at this point, lebron been in the league 21 years, and jump team to team, he should have more rings at this point, there is just no argument when you have gone 6-0, two three peats with one of those chips 72-10, something lebron has never done, but the agenda by media is set on keeping this debate going for ratings only.
Jordan got lucky to win in 1991 & 1998. In 1991, he beat the Lakers with injured hobbling James Worthy & in 1998, he got away pushing Bryon Russell. He retired in 93 cus he knew he can’t beat the Dream & the Rockets. Then he retired again in ‘98 cus he didn’t want to deal with the Twin Towers.
Winning 4 championships in 20 years is kinda pathetic especially if you are supposedly the GOAT and got to pick and choose your teammates for the most part. So yeah he's nowhere near Jordan.
U must be new to watching basketball … smh that’s a no brainer AD is a younger and better basketball player that’s why is on the lakers because lebron is aging. lebron has become the leader of the team everyone followers him including the coach/owner he is still currently the face of the league 😂
Michael Jordan has *ZERO* losses in the NBA Finals. Michael Jordan has 6 Finals MVPs in as many series. Has never gone past 6 games in the NBA Finals. Has averaged 33.6 ppg (5 more points than LeBron) in the NBA Finals and in 1993 averaged 41 ppg. These are things LeBron James will never accomplish. He's the greatest of his generation, like Kobe was the greatest in his generation, Jordan before him, Magic and Bird before him, Kareem before them, Russell and Wilt before him. There is no such thing as a GOAT. Only the best of an era. Something that can be finitely measured. You can't declare a winner before the game is over. Different eras, different protocols, different rules, different circumstances. The advances of science and medicine play a HUGE part in longevity in athletes today and that is never taken into account.
lebron is number 4 he has not got 5 rings like magic and Kobe and kobe is better players as far as a baller skills and better offensive and defensive player kobe is 12 times defense over lebron 6 also kobe is more pure skills , score and assassin lebron just better on accolades that’s it and longevity
LeBron James already surpassed Mj. The Game of basketball didn't MAX out in the damn 90's. They make it sound like the game has improved talent wise from 30 years ago. Talking about 30 Years ago Haha. They weren't talking about the game being MAXED out 30 years when it was the 90's. No because the game advanced. Everyone in this day and age would dominated the 90's the same way Jordan did.
This man saying he’s number 2 and it ain’t gone change like he speaks for the world 😂😂😂😂
Them facts though buddy
prob is they just love ridin mj diik for ppl to say theres nothin he or anyone else can do to pass him that statement lets you know
Most of the world shares that opinion.
you dont known not same team last year lakers are better then last year
He don’t speak for the world he speak for the boomers, everyone knows Lebron is better in every way! It’s really pathetic how some MJ fans are so blind they can’t see it!
If AD and LeBron have the best game of their lives, Denver wins in 5. This entire video is fantasy.
Cute but another sweep for Denver
Jordan accomplished more in less time, his peak is higher but LeBrons longevity of course has surpassed Jordan. The greatest peak of dominance seen on the court is MJ, backed by factual stats and accolades!
Perfectly Said
@@kevinhawkins20🫱🏾🫲🏽
Jordan’s peak year doesn’t match to Lebron’s across the board STATISTICALLY. Accolades are team reliant. Better asts, rebs, blks, 3pt pct
@@mikailcarbo8723 So peak is a players prime across time which LeBron is no match for MJ as he had 2 3 peats in his prime(he was finals mvp for all 6), 10 scoring titles, 3 steals titles, was DPOY..more rings and more mvps than LeBron.
In a given season u mention more assists rebounds( he should have more with his size) & 3 point percentage. Lebron’s peak in Blocks is not above MJ. So MJ is above LeBron in a given season during their peak in PPG, Steals, Blocks, FT%, FG%. Even in Jordan’s first finals he averaged 31 ppg and 11 assists per game..Bron has never averaged 11 assists per game in a playoff series or in the finals. Even Jordan’s peak 3 point percentage in a season is above LeBron.
A steals title is team reliant? A scoring title is team reliant? DPOY is team reliant? League MVP is team reliant? Cmon now. A couple of those the team success matters but not more than individual dominance.
@@leandreballew2566I don’t speak on accolade you get from VOTESS. DPOY, MVP is VOTEDDDD not statistical. Lebron dominating at 40. If Jordan was in the nba right now he would b Demar Derozan or Devin Booker with hops.
SIGH LEBRON/LAKERS
TALK......THEY DONE LOST 8 STRAIGHT TO NUGGETS AND THEY GOT A WHOLE SEGMANT ON.....IF
Even if they're lucky enough to get past the Nuggets that doesn't guarantee they beat the Mavs or Wolves or Suns, etc. Lakers are inconsistent and poorly execute against good teams in crunch time.
Y’all smoking crack they not going to no dam finals
Not only crack bro and fentanyl too dreaming to much
Yall talk so much about these people you would think they were the favorites going into this series
So getting past the first round makes you the Goat? 😂
Even if he wins the championship he needed AD and had no reason to be in the play in.
The bar has really been lowerd since Jordan retired.
SAS is such a clown ....next take ..." if LBJ Can win a Championship at the age of 50 ...he officially pass MJ . Soooo MJ Can be The GOAT Because his Peak was Higher for a Much Shorter Period / But LBJ Cannot be considered the GOAT with his Peak Starting Younger Lasting Forever and still Dominating in year 21 ???
James & Davis are healthier than 2023. D’Angelo Russell became sniper. Austin Reaves might be him. Vando might return. Lakers in 6 or 7.
And what about nuggets ? No one on their team is allowed to improve ?😂
Nuggets are not losing to that trash team
True bro is first round. And they think are gonna win noooo they need more help to beat nuggets
That trash team dominated the 1 seed, clippers, boston, suns but go off
If he wins another chip the jordan goat conversation is done at age 39
Over when MJ has a DPOY, 9 more scoring titles, more walk off game winners, higher alltime PER, 1 more ring, 3 more steals titles, 1 more league MVP, more averaged points in the regular season, postseason and the finals? Your saying MJ won’t even be in the conversation?
Stop it
@@leandreballew2566 9 more scoring titles yet only averaging less than 3 points per game? that just shows how weak his competition was. Try winning scoring titles in the 2000s with Kobe Iversion and them boys.
@@jerryren4076 lol that’s your counter even when Jordan averaged 37 in a season with hand checks..🤦🏽♂️..I guess LeBron would have no rings if he wouldn’t have formed teams and teamed up with other stars…..lol that’s actually a fact!
@@leandreballew2566 Handchecks are a joke, a more physical era would only benefit the more physical player more, which in this case is Bron - 260 lbs freight train
Y'all kill me with these fake stimulus packages y'all give the Lakers, if they go 2-0 it's over.
What you smoking Mr. Smith. Nobody will ever be like MJ or beat MJ
What if “lebron” pulls off the upset? Not the lakers. 🤦🏾♂️ so he’s out there by himself now? If the lakers do beat them it’ll be more because of AD if anything.
I agree, AD needs to FEAST ON JOKIC if they are gonna make some noise against the nuggets.
They only way Lakers will beat the nuggets if the refs call bs fouls calls for the Lakers like they did all season long
All yall laker fans in the comments might as well pipe down.y’all always using some kind of angle to continue this GOAT debate.just STOP IT ALREADY.JORDAN ALL DAY EVERYDAY.😂😂
What if Towns/Edwards, Shai/Holmgren, Booker/Durant, Leonard/George.....etc go crazy in the playoffs. Luka/Irving? There's way more talent in the league than just the damn Lakers!!!
Lakers 0-8 vs the nuggets in last 8 games, this shit is nonsense
Talking about what if instead of talking about the nuggets smh
Molly lead the story with the Nuggets. The success of the Nuggets was expected. The "story" is how the Lakers/LeBron will fair against the Nuggets.
Facts same thing they did last year. After every game the lost to Denver all they talked about was the lakers
SAS Reminds Me Of Carlton Banks😭😭😭
This shit just like last year
Lakers are getting swept
how much you wanna bet
so to be the goat one must beat a specific opponent, not being in the finals yet...
ok..
Steven A come on bro
Y'all know damn well ain't no fuckn way da fakers aka Lakers not beating no mtf Denver nuggets are y'all cool bro
King Jordan
meatrider
STRAIGHT BS IF Y'ALL THINK LEBRONZE WILL BE BETTER THAN JORDAN. ALL Y'ALL SOUND LIKE🤡. Y'ALL BEEN TRYING TO PUSH LEBRONZE ON THE PEOPLE FOR YEAR'S BUT THAT BS NOT WORKING WITH ME AND A LOT OF MORE PEOPLE. AIN'T Y'ALL TIRED OF THE LEBRONZE AND JORDAN DEBATE BS🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
People are too prisoners of the moment
Jordan never even won a series while Kareem was in the league
There are levels to this
1) Kareem
2)Lebron
3) Jordan
He had no good teammates at all and went against Alltime dynasty’s . Celtics , lakers , pistons etc. no one wins alone. Lebron can’t win without Ad , Kyrie , Wade
@@user-uv9oy1qp5m he’s not better than Kareem 😂
Monica McNutt cannot stand still 😅😅
Nuggets won't allow LeBron to bully his way to the rim at will (unless it's their game plan). Bron will be forced to settle for jump shots which he'll mostly miss in the clutch. Along with AD's broken jump shot and fear of taking it to Jokic at the rim....Denver in 5.
AD wants revenge. They have Gabe Vincent austin reaves, DLO cooking when dlo and schroder were terrible last year against denver. Lebron has shot 40 percent from three this entire year. Lebron's career is narrowing down. The lakers chem is starting to cook. They know that they have to make jokic a scorer and not a facilitator. Let's see what happens. I give the lakers a decent chance against the nuggets. Anything can happen in the playoffs.
@@MilkiasDebessay 🥱
@@daath5114 you never know 🤷
@@daath5114 LeBron actually has hit a ton of clutch jump shots in his career, on better efficiency than Kobe even
@@jerryren4076 Go watch the 2023 western conference finals
We be surprised if it’s a sweep.
I bet you someone is getting juiced with Lebalco in preparation for this serie
Careful: You might get “Clinton-ed” by LeBum’s people for saying that. The truth of his doping must be suppressed
Imagine still reaching to be GOAT 35yrs in the league. Where’s Stephen A . Saying that he needs to be drug tested
man this all part of the script make the nuggets looked at as the unbeatable giants and when they do it oh look only lebron could do it
Stephen A eliminating the “Lebron had no help” excuse
No, he ate the goat he just a goat of this erea 😊
Funny because without pip Jordan got swept in the first round twice. Without pip all Jordan could do was win scoring titles. While goat James will take anyone to the finials. Goat James bu a mile
U funny 😂
Shut up nobody care wat u talkin bout. Goat james
@williambaldwin6241 u funny. LeBron has only won titles with other superstars. Pip wasn't a superstar. He was a great sidekick. LeBron has had Dwade and Allen, with kyrie and with AD. LeBron needed other superstars to make it happen.
@@prestonscott9676 Did you say Pippen was not a star player? I don't think you have been watching basketball to make such a remark. When Jordan retire the first time, Pippen led the Bulls to the Conference Finals a very big accomplishment because when Pippen wasn't there Michael Jordan was getting swept in the first round. Pippen is also accomplished too: 8 defensive all nba team, 3 times all-nba first team 7 times all-star. People are saying Lebron played with stars like D-wade and Chris Bosh were a shell of themselves always getting injured year in year out same with Kyrie and Kevin Love both injury-prone. Lebron actually carried them all. Ray Allen was a role player way past his prime not a star player at the time he teamed with Lebron. The best player Lebron ever played with is AD cause this season he has played like 76 games and he finally healthy while AD has missed so many times the last 5 seasons again another player that is always hurt. Overall Lebron has played with so many star players that has been hurt that if you combined how many games they have missed probably more than 1,000 games that he had to carry all of them throughout the times he has played with them. You saying Lebron has only won titles with other superstar is such a dumb statement. So that means you have acknowledged that Jordan has won with another star player like Scottie Pippen because before Pippen arrived he was getting swept in the first round and by the way before Lebron starting playing with star players, he actually never lost in the first round and made it to the Finals without any star players which Jordan never did.
Kwame brown was right when he said the media wants too now find a way too make lebron the goat too continue talking about him when his gone like they did with mj since the next generation wont talk about mj anymore
Kwame Brown is the most bitter ex you’ll ever hear about. He was suppose to be the first LBJ he loved the attention then. He just blew his opportunity don’t hate on another man that seized it
Jordan was the definition of HIM
SAS saying it on tv right now saturday night the nuggets will be on point they are ready i drama sure the nuggets bet the lakers in 6 games
What if goku joined the pokemon world
If both teams can finish this series with no injuries. Nuggets can beat the LA.... bcoz it could be nuggets vs pelicans if zion was not injured.
This has to be all about ratings at this point, lebron been in the league 21 years, and jump team to team, he should have more rings at this point, there is just no argument when you have gone 6-0, two three peats with one of those chips 72-10, something lebron has never done, but the agenda by media is set on keeping this debate going for ratings only.
O Mr. If 😂😅😢
So Jokic is the Goat
Molly is so not funny
O by the way Mj will and always be the goat 🐐 so stop the hype SAS
Jordan got lucky to win in 1991 & 1998. In 1991, he beat the Lakers with injured hobbling James Worthy & in 1998, he got away pushing Bryon Russell. He retired in 93 cus he knew he can’t beat the Dream & the Rockets. Then he retired again in ‘98 cus he didn’t want to deal with the Twin Towers.
@@richardlee2142 Mj had no luck 6-0 in the finals period and never back down took over games in minutes look at Mj highlights 🏀
@@richardlee2142 Phil jackson was not coming back so everybody departed from the bulls which the last dance
@@richardlee2142 Mj had to learn the off season and it paid off everybody wanted to be like mike
@@NBA215 how does his nut taste
All hype first take about the lakers betting the nuggets ok we will see can’t wait…
Lakers making a first round exit
Winning 4 championships in 20 years is kinda pathetic especially if you are supposedly the GOAT and got to pick and choose your teammates for the most part.
So yeah he's nowhere near Jordan.
Science fiction conversation
Forget about MJ and LBJ. Let's talk about this sister on the right side with short hair. Damn she's beautiful tho 😅
LeBron been in the league 30 years and still hasn't accomplished what mj has
Molly is annoying why does she cut ppl off
Hahahahahahahhahaha. Stephen A, Lebron James is already BY FAR the best basketball player who has ever lived.
Review goat conversation smh media hella drug thought he was goat becoming all time scoring leader
James is already the greatest of all time by a wide margin in my opinion and I’m a 50 year old Jordan super fan who watched Jordan live.
Gtfoh you don’t even believe your own nonsense
So Lebron can pass Jordan while being the 2nd best player on his team
U must be new to watching basketball … smh that’s a no brainer AD is a younger and better basketball player that’s why is on the lakers because lebron is aging. lebron has become the leader of the team everyone followers him including the coach/owner he is still currently the face of the league 😂
Michael Jordan has *ZERO* losses in the NBA Finals. Michael Jordan has 6 Finals MVPs in as many series. Has never gone past 6 games in the NBA Finals. Has averaged 33.6 ppg (5 more points than LeBron) in the NBA Finals and in 1993 averaged 41 ppg. These are things LeBron James will never accomplish. He's the greatest of his generation, like Kobe was the greatest in his generation, Jordan before him, Magic and Bird before him, Kareem before them, Russell and Wilt before him.
There is no such thing as a GOAT. Only the best of an era. Something that can be finitely measured. You can't declare a winner before the game is over. Different eras, different protocols, different rules, different circumstances. The advances of science and medicine play a HUGE part in longevity in athletes today and that is never taken into account.
How many years did Jordan play ?
Even if lakers somehow beat nuggets no way in hell they’re winning it all. I actually watch the games. Lebron doesn’t have the stamina no way in hell
Jordan had better team every time he won
The nba is showing it’s true colors. Lebron is the highest paid call girl in the NBA to make the league money and I’m a lakers fan
Kobe bryant number two
Kobe ain’t even top 10
Foh casual
lebron is number 4 he has not got 5 rings like magic and Kobe and kobe is better players as far as a baller skills and better offensive and defensive player kobe is 12 times defense over lebron 6 also kobe is more pure skills , score and assassin lebron just better on accolades that’s it and longevity
Bill Russell has 12 rings…he is the goat
What a clown-show.
His forehead is huge!!!! 😂
Lakers beat Denver your losing to the Suns. Suns are going to the finals.
LeTest him
Funny thing is. It’s exactly what lebron and the lakers are going to do! And shout out Kobe being the 24 mba finals champions . It just makes sense
I don’t care if he wins Jordan is the goat
I don’t care if he wins Bill Russell is goat
This Jordan ish is amazing bron is by far a better player than Jordan that chip shit is ridiculous
Bron will win this and next year
Smoking that delusional pipe
LeBron James already surpassed Mj. The Game of basketball didn't MAX out in the damn 90's. They make it sound like the game has improved talent wise from 30 years ago. Talking about 30 Years ago Haha. They weren't talking about the game being MAXED out 30 years when it was the 90's. No because the game advanced. Everyone in this day and age would dominated the 90's the same way Jordan did.
LBJ been the GOAT Mr legwho
Jordan is the greatest period
@@derrickrobinson984 clown
Goat 🐐 bron
Goat 🐐 🐐 🐐 king 👑 James well dominate the Denver Nuggets