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Komentáře • 89

  • @SCGCommander
    @SCGCommander  Před měsícem +2

    Decklists! articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/commander-vs-397-upgrading-modern-horizons-3-commander-precons/

  • @jewpcabra666
    @jewpcabra666 Před měsícem +31

    At 13:54 - stephen should actually get 3 energy there (even stronger synnergy with the flying!) since it says that many energy = combat damage

    • @soron703
      @soron703 Před měsícem

      Mr Green short cut reads his cards too much 😂 #teamgreen 🎉

  • @matthugenberg8869
    @matthugenberg8869 Před měsícem +25

    So you know, you actually don't have to exile 4 cards with nethergoyf. It just has to be any number of cards with 4 different types. So, a burnished heart would count as 2, and an urza's saga would be 2, and that's all you would have to exile to escape it.

  • @LordSibe
    @LordSibe Před měsícem +23

    Aren't the Tarmogoyf tokens 2 cmc? Thats what it says at the bottom of the token. So you cant -0 ugin to get rid of them.

  • @Gunnarr123abc
    @Gunnarr123abc Před měsícem +7

    Director: I appreciate that you made the tiny subscribe button for the higher pitched bell. Good Work. I even notice you putting lands they announce onto the screen, this used to never happen on commander vs. Again nice nice

  • @blightspeaker26
    @blightspeaker26 Před měsícem +35

    @ 1:20:00 the Tarmogoyf tokens do have a mana value. its 2 just like the card.

    • @erikstokely4734
      @erikstokely4734 Před měsícem +1

      I was going to say the same

    • @GravePacked
      @GravePacked Před měsícem +1

      He was using OG goyfs for funsies but the tokens that came with the deck don't have a mana value

    • @sparkythespooderduck8723
      @sparkythespooderduck8723 Před měsícem +10

      ​@@GravePacked they do, it's printed on the bottom of the card that they have a mana cost of 1G

  • @blueeyedenvy9715
    @blueeyedenvy9715 Před měsícem +3

    Like the new thumbnail where you can see the commanders you’re playing! Much better

  • @mattcampbell2600
    @mattcampbell2600 Před měsícem +28

    I thought the ruling was that if the commander that gives the everything counter was not on the board the counters do nothing

    • @garrettfarnam4567
      @garrettfarnam4567 Před měsícem +2

      I came here to say that as well. Terrible design

    • @Waldo_I_Am
      @Waldo_I_Am Před měsícem +5

      Around 28:40 they mentioned they messed that up.

    • @nutellakinesis
      @nutellakinesis Před měsícem +1

      @@garrettfarnam4567 uh, no. If you’ve played the deck you’d know that if they were permanent things would get of hand very quickly

    • @garrettfarnam4567
      @garrettfarnam4567 Před měsícem +1

      @@nutellakinesisno I’ve played the deck, it’s a counter play but once your commander leaves your whole synergy falls apart and you get outclassed by every other strategy. The counters don’t leave the field which now causes your board to essentially become day night, a mechanic you now have to track the rest of the game that doesn’t have any impact unless you replay your commander, the counters should either leave field with the commander or not be called everything counters. Counters are supposed to be permanent additional effect given to a card on the battlefield.

    • @nutellakinesis
      @nutellakinesis Před měsícem +2

      @@garrettfarnam4567 this is such a weird hill to die on. What would you rather have them called? That’s just what they are. They are designed that way so you don’t lose your progress when you recast your commander.
      You’re still in simic and have simic ramp. It’s not like you can’t recast her when you want

  • @Hutch_x
    @Hutch_x Před měsícem +2

    Glad you guys brought back the Precon upgrades! Also first time I’ve ever seen an energy deck go off and win lol

  • @sandmanlives3
    @sandmanlives3 Před měsícem +2

    This was great. Thanks guys!

  • @nothinghere2056
    @nothinghere2056 Před měsícem +2

    Thank you , it was very fun to watch.
    #Team Mr.Green

  • @ADamItalian1173
    @ADamItalian1173 Před 4 dny

    Dang, Green has lands on top and then "has to shuffle them away cuz he saw them"

  • @BloodMoonGo
    @BloodMoonGo Před měsícem +1

    29:45 "Mesa Sith Lord" needs to go in the Commander Vs Hall of Fame

  • @OGTahoe3
    @OGTahoe3 Před měsícem +4

    Aurora Shifter actually gives you energy based off the amount of damage. So when it gets bugged Mr. Green should have gained 3 energy

  • @AttilasWarZone
    @AttilasWarZone Před měsícem +6

    Jeremy currently in 1st place!?! LETS FREAKING GO!!! 0:31

  • @Chris-yb8bg
    @Chris-yb8bg Před měsícem +1

    Stephen impersonating a pterodactyl 19:55

  • @dustinzahn8270
    @dustinzahn8270 Před měsícem +1

    I love seeing Jeremy in the first place seat!!

  • @AVIDFISH5
    @AVIDFISH5 Před měsícem

    Loving the content! Keep up the great work! Deathright salmon platmat ftw!

  • @misheel89
    @misheel89 Před měsícem

    the tarmo tokens have a mv of 2. that's why Jon used real Tarmogoyf cards as tokens, I thought :D

  • @starman21789
    @starman21789 Před měsícem +1

    Powerbalance does not let you just look at the top card on the trigger without revealing; you either reveal it or you don't. Also, the Wheel of Potential exiled off the Unstable Amulet was castable for the rest of the game since no other cards were exiled with the Amulet afterwards (the amulet doesn't have to be in play).

  • @aaronmcclain2088
    @aaronmcclain2088 Před měsícem +1

    When Corey did 0 with ugin to get rid of the tokens, the only ones that would have been gotten rid of were the saprolings, since the tarmogofy tokens have a cmc of 2

  • @matthewelchert4463
    @matthewelchert4463 Před měsícem +2

    On the turn Stephen attacked with the sphinx token at Corey, he should have actually gained 10 energy and had 2 triggers to shoot for 5 somewhere. Each sphinx saw him gain 4 life which triggers to gain 4 energy twice. Both are replaced by the generator to gain +1, gaining him 5 then 5.

    • @xplod3r
      @xplod3r Před měsícem

      came looking for this. its such a good card in this deck. prob my fav.

  • @MechanizedMinionMTG
    @MechanizedMinionMTG Před měsícem +1

    around 23:10 Urza's Mine is tapped for 2 but should only tap for 1 until the commander is back on the field and turns the everything counters back on.

  • @xplod3r
    @xplod3r Před měsícem +2

    localized destruction gives creatures you control with power equal to the energy you paid indestructible. satya is 3 power not 4. only thing that would of survived is the sphinx. dont know if it would of made a difference or not.

  • @darkbobfmb
    @darkbobfmb Před měsícem +2

    and here i was waiting for yuriko to show up

    • @JeremyNoell
      @JeremyNoell Před měsícem +1

      Maaaaybe you'll see it next episode 😄

  • @dragondest4
    @dragondest4 Před měsícem +5

    the title is wrong im pretty sure. this is the precon game not inalla, kykar, yuriko, breya

    • @SCGCommander
      @SCGCommander  Před měsícem +1

      Good catch! Thanks for the heads up!

  • @WayneyMTG
    @WayneyMTG Před měsícem

    I love the balance of power in this game

  • @Kell_of_Kellers
    @Kell_of_Kellers Před měsícem

    If Jon had the actual tokens he would know they do have a mana cost of 2 🤣

  • @GrandDungeonDad
    @GrandDungeonDad Před měsícem

    Im here for it SG energy is such a cool mechanic and it finally works in commander

  • @Shank40
    @Shank40 Před měsícem

    Technically, Steven shouldn't have kept the Sphinx the second time because it's 5 CMC not 4.

  • @LewisMarshalll
    @LewisMarshalll Před měsícem

    With power balance, you don’t get to look, you either reveal or don’t, Stephen started off playing it correctly

  • @josephstillings1762
    @josephstillings1762 Před měsícem

    The Tarmogoyf tokens have a cmc of 2

  • @sierrarome9512
    @sierrarome9512 Před měsícem

    It’s a pleasant surprise when I remember that y’all make content.

  • @SaltyBrolaf
    @SaltyBrolaf Před měsícem

    1:41:33 you can only make creatures with exactly 4 power indestructible so satya would have died there

  • @retro.7673
    @retro.7673 Před měsícem

    Ayo we're getting a Yuriko Episode soon 0-0

  • @aryst0krat
    @aryst0krat Před měsícem

    Showing the Sphinx's Revelation instead of the Sphinx of Revelation had me really confused as to what the combo actually was haha

  • @Steve-to4hv
    @Steve-to4hv Před měsícem

    Did I miss something!? Localized destruction was for 4, meaning Satya would have died therefor negating that last lot of damage as he wouldn't have got an attack with Satya, wouldn't have got a clone of the sphinx and there for should of only done a fraction of the damage. I must have missed something no?

  • @craigmcdowell3623
    @craigmcdowell3623 Před měsícem +1

    Gluttonous hellkite is each other player so he didn't need to sac his tarmogoyf tokens

  • @JoshuaSanville
    @JoshuaSanville Před měsícem +1

    Does the enchantment “All Will Be One” work with getting energy counters? Because if it does that could be a functional second copy of Aether Revolt

  • @MythrilShotgun
    @MythrilShotgun Před měsícem

    Satya specifically creates tokens of *other* nontoken creatures. (Also, they're still legendary. So they'd die anyway.) Granted, this whole game had a myriad of missed triggers, but this one really impacted the ending.

    • @brendan8114
      @brendan8114 Před měsícem

      did he make a copy of satya or another legend? as far as i can tell the 2 biggest missed things is that the tarmogoyf tokens DO have a cmc of 2(so ugin couldn't -0 to get rid of them), and when stephen gained life with the sphinxes in play he should've gained 10 energy instead of 5

  • @jacobyspurnger8488
    @jacobyspurnger8488 Před měsícem

    Hey, this isn't the first episode of the season, what's Jeremy doing in the red chair!?

  • @acetraker1988
    @acetraker1988 Před měsícem +1

    17:10 Blue Player cheated he had blocked Green's Token...

  • @djimsd
    @djimsd Před měsícem

    Damn where can i get those dice? 😍😍

  • @doulosdphi
    @doulosdphi Před měsícem

    Stephen just said nah 😂

  • @dakkenblah1450
    @dakkenblah1450 Před měsícem

    Stephen has 15.5 points. He won and got first blood.

  • @danielsinclair9263
    @danielsinclair9263 Před měsícem

    “Fun eldrazi”
    That’s pretty subjective.

  • @walrider8073
    @walrider8073 Před měsícem

    good haircuts, looking fresh

  • @jayrod7291
    @jayrod7291 Před měsícem

    wait what set was the special guest field of the dead in?

  • @carlosreis8619
    @carlosreis8619 Před měsícem +1

    Does the land continue to be of all types even with the departure of Omo?

    • @drac8635
      @drac8635 Před měsícem +4

      It does not. The "Everything" counter remains on the land, but Omo is providing the characteristics for the counter to work. So with Omo gone, the counter does nothing to the card

    • @carlosreis8619
      @carlosreis8619 Před měsícem +1

      So Jeremy played it wrong

    • @drac8635
      @drac8635 Před měsícem +2

      @@carlosreis8619 Yes. But I believe they caught it, though it didn't seem to matter for the game state

  • @Rizso1
    @Rizso1 Před měsícem

    nethergoyf can at escape cost can be as low as 2 cards. cards needs to have 4 card typ. escape actually isnt looking at how many cards to exile,

  • @danpasquale1620
    @danpasquale1620 Před 25 dny

    Fun fact, wheel of potential is actually worded incorrectly and is awaiting an update. Feel free to look into this as well. The card states you get x energy however, does not say then you may pay x energy and draw x cards it just says draw x cards. So as of right now until the update, x can be any number the player wants for the draw x cards portion of this sorcery.

  • @ogomezcastillo
    @ogomezcastillo Před měsícem

    Isnt kindered a card type towards gofy

    • @ogomezcastillo
      @ogomezcastillo Před měsícem

      Jk I just got to the point where they figured it out haha

  • @kingvlad33
    @kingvlad33 Před měsícem

    Didn't corey play a tribal sorcery?

    • @stevengunn3532
      @stevengunn3532 Před měsícem

      Yes that that adds two card types

    • @kingvlad33
      @kingvlad33 Před měsícem

      @@stevengunn3532 they didn't track it until the very end. The goyfs should have been stronger

    • @stevengunn3532
      @stevengunn3532 Před měsícem

      @@kingvlad33 I think because they changed name so not easy to notice compared to tribal

  • @plotwiist6817
    @plotwiist6817 Před měsícem

    @48:57 say what?

  • @alexanderrobinson5131
    @alexanderrobinson5131 Před měsícem

    I came for inalla and was baited into a precon game :(

  • @trevorpeters4976
    @trevorpeters4976 Před měsícem

    Like, comment, share, subscribe, binge, and pay too much for a precon bell

  • @DarthTUK
    @DarthTUK Před měsícem

    AAAAAAAAA It's infuriating that you still play like dinguses after doing this for a living for so many years. When Corey went "it has to be 4 cards" for the Nethergoyf I wanted to rip my eyes out. I know John is usually the cheatyface, but he for once wanted to play it correctly. He ballanced it out when he stated the goyf tokens have no mana cost though. Then the everything counter issue. There are 5 people in that room and I guess some more get to see the footage while editing - be better, at least acknowledge that you are misplaying and try to catch those misplays and make a conscious effort to play properly.

  • @marvinrose6273
    @marvinrose6273 Před měsícem

    Dont go after the guy in 1st place that doesnt make since

  • @marvinrose6273
    @marvinrose6273 Před měsícem

    This show is no fun anymore because every punk #ss player on her targets cory u all are sorry