Definition: Game Changer - "an event, idea, or procedure that effects a significant shift in the current manner of doing or thinking about something." Tactile was a "Game Changer" for me. My Sims feel dead without it! Welcome onboard my friend!
I use a butt kicker with simracing in VR. I had the exact same experience as you did. I was very underwhelmed at first. Then I started setting it up gradually and UT became a whole different experience. Just like you, now I can't sim race without it. It even gives you useful information like when the tyres start sliding which is very important to know to save lap time. I wish I could try it with my flight sim setup but it is a hassle to switch it every time.
That's the "exact" same way sim racers with vibration haptics, have described their experiences. That they wouldn't want to drive without the haptics going forward.
I couldn't agree more! Time for Asobo to implement FF into MSFS (I don't know why they disabled it for the legacy FM?), and for manufacturers to start thinking about FF Rudder Pedals as well!
@@BradburgerBrunner FFB yoke works flawlessly with msfs. I use it together with the Reverb G2, it’s an absolute game changer. They have FFB rudder pedals as well but unfortunately I don’t have them.
@@mofa9999 You are talking about MSFS 2020 right? Does it do helicopter trim? My G940 and MSFFB 2 don’t seem to work in MSFS 2020 while both of them work perfectly in DCS.
I’ve been using 4 tactile transducers for about 15 years now. One large mounted under my seat, another large mounted behind my seat, one small one on my yoke and another on my rudder pedals. Couldn’t fly without them! My YAW2 (on order) will be the ultimate sim experience.
I have used a buttkicker with my motion seat for a few years now. You are absolutely right; once you have tried this out there is no going back! I can also tell you that the software that you are using for your transducer seat is the same that drives my motion seat! SimRacingStudio are a first class company. As well as being hugely innovated be their customer support is first class!!! I highly recommend them and am thrilled that you are going to be working with them to help them develop the aviation side of things some more.
I think you're the perfect person to test this tech since you actually fly in real life. My Buttkicker Gamer 2 is good but I'd guess this UShake6 is next level.
So pleased to see this. I've been using the Jet Seat with Simshaker Aviation software in DCS for nearly 2 years now. Its so immersive, its hard to fly without it! The Jet Seat is the same design (6 vibrating pads) and the software is tailored to each DCS module. But it's made in Russia and is hard to purchase/replace under the current situation, if something goes wrong. I'm so pleased to see I have a back up if it fails.
@@dale3869 I bet there is a big difference. It would be like just feeling "something" (its just a vibration like in a console controller) vs. like Steve said, feeling a "Big Thump" or "Engine RPMs" (because it is an actual transducer). I don't know for sure but would imagine that is the case. Anyone know for sure?
Thanks for the video - ordered one as a result and used the discount code. Thanks for the video - ideal. If enough of us use your discount code it will encourage the manufacturers to refine the software ever more for flight sim use too. My plan is to use this with DCS. I have been looking for something that is good enough, cheap enough and not too much of a hassle to set up - this could be it and can’t wait until it arrives.
I've been using bass transducers for many years for my racing sims and can't imagine going without them. I have a ton of them, 1 very large Clark transducer on front and rear, 4 medium sized Aura transducers underneath the chassis corners, and 4 of the small Dayton puck transducers between the pedal deck and inside my race seat. The SRS setup I believe uses Daton pucks (or equivalent) inside and they can do a fantastic job at giving feedback. I think max out around 5 lbs of force each or so but combined it's quite a bit more. The Auras do around 30 lbs max each, and the Clarks....a lot lol. I use SimXperience for my racing sims because of the software and control compared to almost everything else (plus it runs my Accuforce steering wheel). I use SRS for my bass transducers when flying though because SimXperience didn't have support when I started flying and I just never went back to check haha. I first learned of SRS because of their Sim-Wind telemetry based fan systems, and since the day I bought those I've been a big fan. I also use those fans when flying, and they work very well with the transducers. I typically only run the Clarks and fans when flying because there are fewer channels available, but that's totally fine when flying. I can't imagine flying without the transducers and fans...that'd be like flying without VR and I will NEVER do that again haha. 6 years of VR greatness and I keep adding things to the rig. 👍👍 (it's a full rig made of 80/20 aluminum)
I thought you said sensual feedback at the beginning! Thats thing looks great, lot of dosh though on top of everything else and yes a race sim would be interesting to see - thanks Mike
Hello, great video with a lot of useful information. Can you please share what are your best settings in the simracing studio to use it with MS Flight Simulator? Thank you very much!
Very interested in a comparison to a butt kicker and this. Only issue I see is many times I lean forward while playing. I wonder if that would effect the back portion.
Looks good but how well have they done the software for flight sims (IL2 in my case)? I can't find any vids for this being used with IL2 unfortunately.
I have a buttkicker on my chair since some years, but because I'm not so much into sim games I didn't use it that much in games. I used it mostly for Elite Dangerous, when I played it more at that time and it also helped to feel the ship a bit more. Today I use the buttkicker mostly when I watch movies for the extra kick and without the need to make the subwoofer louder.
Sounds a lot like the Buttkicker. When I first hooked it up and went down the taxiway, it blew my mind. You could feel all the bumps in the taxiway. Where it really shines is in stalls. You can actually feel the buffet right before the stall and can fix it before it happens.
@@MarceloManzo Sounds really good. I know some other chair pads like this don't really last though. Most fall apart after a year of good use. Hopefully the build quality is better on this one.
I bought something called Jet Seat - same idea and for driving and flying is brilliant. Perhaps have a look at that and compare the two....If you can't afford a simulator this is the next best thing. The JetSeat was black with orange piping - was a pain in the arse to get it working in both racing and flight but once sorted it was sorted. I bought it second in excellent condition.
Have you tried it with any jet fighters? A different set of vibrations and sounds, so I'm wondering if this has the ability for such a wide range. I'd like to know how it does with the Grumman F-14 Tomcat series (A, B D) and the PBY Catalina.
Great video! Hope you can get your hands on the HF8 to compare? Either i get Ushake or HF8. Mostly play dcs🙌 ps dont forget to show me the ingame settings for dcs❣️
I’m a fan of SRS. The software works well with my DOF motions platform. This is a decent alternative to Andres Jet Seat and Simshaker software, but not nearly as customizable. The jet seat/simshaker make better use of sim telemetry and allow for emphasis of specific things like stall buffet, VRS in helicopters, ground bumps and of course weapons. Sadly, it’s a bit tough to get your hands on one right now.
I've used the Gametrix KW-908 JetSeat for many years in DCS and it's an essential part of my VR setup. When i first got it i tested it in DCS with default settings in Simshaker on a monitor. My initial thought was "have i just bought a massage-mat?" as it felt a bit underwhelming and disconnected. After some adjustments and using it in VR for a few hours i disconnected to see the difference. It felt like something was missing, not just for the immersion, but also for "feeling" the plane. Getting feedback on high AOA is invaluable. It also helped me with motion sickness. Before i got the JetSeat i couldn't do acrobatics or rolls without getting nauseous. Same thing with driving games in VR.
Hey buddy do you have a shared profile I can start with im getting mine in Friday or can you copy your settings and put them in the description thanks buddy
Big change I will add this to the VR flying :) Also I am looking for a device/servo wich creates shocks and vibrations like the Microsoft Sidewinder Forced Feedback did (20 years ago hehe). For example you put this on the bottom of your seat or desk. What is the name of this kind of devices?
Steve. can you do a settings video on this as I have just bought and as you bit disappointed initially. I have messed with the limited settings but not getting the change you described.
Also . With my dof h3 Motion platform you feel the ge force as you accelerate down the runway its like you get thrown back in the seat same when you land and brake you are thrown forward in the seat.once you go motion platform theres no going back
Hi, great review. Have you tried it for sim racing yet? I am looking at this on an iPad but can’t find the 10% discount code, could you please reply with it to make it a bit more affordable. Thanks in anticipation John
I have been using a buttkicker and transducers for several years for sim racing and more recently MSFS2020. I just researched this U-Shake unit and it seems a good unit but I feel that most people would be better off, in the long term, getting some transducers and an appropriate amplifier and software setting it up on their seat or rig themselves. I started off with the Buttkicker and now have 6 transducers attached to my rig as well. I have learned a lot and am glad I went the DIY route even though I started with very little expertise in this area.
So... This UShake6 compared to Buttkicker Gamer Plus, compared to Andres JetSeat, which one should we get? US6 and ButtKicker GP cost about the same... Which one is the best for VR Flying and DCS?
Seems like a fun addon.. Kindof like a halfway house between nothing and one of those motion contraptions. Still a bit pricey though, it seems. But a fancy vibrator it is!
I use 2 butt kickers for DCS. If you have a seat like this or butt kickers and they stop working it would be like going from flying VR to flying with a black and white flat screen with no audio. Once you have it you can't fly without it.
Why this over the gametrix jetpad or next level racing HF8 pad both of which have 6 inducers too yet less than half the price? I have the gametrix already which basically does the same thing but wondering why this is so much more
I have a big car sub I converted into a kind of transducer buttkicker and for now it’s just wired into a second amp that plays off the sims audio output. Seems to work well as you just feel the low frequencies which normally relate to something you would feel IRL. I don’t fly without now as it feels a big part of immersion missing. It’s the way forward, honestly. I hope it takes off 😉 😂
Would be very interesting to see a comparision of the SRS pad with the new HF8 Haptic Feedback Seat Pad from nextlevelracing. With its 8 zones driven by vibration motors the latter compares to Andre's Simshaker pad, that unfortunately is a bit hard to get, but an excellent value. The HF8 is also cheaper than the SRS.
@@VRFlightSimGuy But as you said somewhere, you haven't yet tested any other body feedback pad yet, correct? So a direct comparision between spinners and transducers would be very welcomed for anyone having thoughts of going into that direction.
Guess I'll chuck the butt kicker in the trash and get one of these! OMG. How cool! Can't wait for haptic gloves to be perfect so we can use the panel switches and knobs in VR! I'm betting a full haptic jacket is not far off. No need for any controllers. Haptics can limited your movements in order to simulator solid object interactions and fully trick our brain. THAT will be the real game changer even over better graphics!
I've always considered a "shaking a s s ;-) " to be a "must have" piece of equipment when using VR. I've written about this many times before (even on your channel). And although I only use Buttkicker and not the "shaky" mat, I can't use any simulator without it anyway. Without it, the flight is indeed sterile and barren. For me, it's a game changer ;-)
I have Buttkicker Gamer Pro I only got a few months ago - to be honest, this seat shaker seems to me like it has a lot more functionality and makes more sense. Pity I didn't know about this before I ordered the Buttkicker. Seems its popular too as its sold out "Back order. Orders after Jan 27 will start shipping Mar/Apr 2023"
Hi Steve. Mark from Simhanger has just purchased and reviewed a different haptic feedback seat pad from yours using 8 Spinners instead of the 6 transducers in yours. It also doesn't need an amplifier and is almost half the price of the one you are using. I've suggested that he gives you a visit and tries yours (and you his) to get a review by someone that has tried both types of haptic seat. That would be very interesting.
Hi Peter, yes I've seen his review, very interesting indeed! It would be great to compare them, although I'd imagine the transducers will give a much greater impact, this still looks to be a great alternative for a cheaper price point.
That can really get you hooked. I have been flying the gametrix game seat that has 6 transducers. Although it does not require as much hardware as the UShake6 HAPTC seat but does the something and I never fly without it. However for the price with as many games and sim it support with that much granularity of control of the sound and frequency, I guess it is a worthy nice replacement since the Gametric is no longer available. Mine is a bit worn but still somewhat functional but is needs to be replace. I will keep an eye on this.
@@MarceloManzo I can see it in the software where there is a lot of granular adjustment. It would interesting in trying it out at some point. Like I said, it would be a nice replacement for what I have now. But I have to look at that price before I can dive into getting it. I have to watch out for the wife lol.
So, based on this video I saw a few weeks ago I purchased this U-shake6. I'm not so sure this is quite ready for Airplanes yet, though. The engine rumble feels like it is coming from the sub-woofer as well as taxi/runway bumps. I have yet to feel any sensation from any other drivers, other possibly the L/R rear ones. It's hard to tell as they are so close to the Sub. That's not to say I'm disappointed in the device at all, however. Just the engine RPM being felt is indeed amazing. On a recent takeoff, I must have been smacked by some turbulence because I felt a strong thump that actually startled me. I said to myself, Wow, This is great! I'm wondering what the theory of operation is? Are the individual drivers activated by the audio that is sent to the speakers, or is it reading the RPM values in the sim data? If that's the case, what variable would be available for turbulence? If audio sound is the source, as far as I know, the sim audio output is stereo, so that could only feed 2 drivers plus the sub. I don't know. I guess I'll have to try to reach out to the Sim Racing dudes (or dudettes). Just think how great it would be for them to come out with an attachment to add to the yoke and rudder pedals...
Thanks for your feedback. The thump you felt may have been from your gear retracting. But I agree, some parts of the experience are amazing, yet others need some work. We need better support and telemetry from the sim, something I'm hoping they are looking into.
@@VRFlightSimGuy No the thump was sometime after the gear went up, (I did feel that). There are lots of effects that work great. I'm just curious about the L/R forward drivers. Can you say for sure that you have felt anything from yours? If so, what caused it?
I have both and used it on my office chair and the Buttkicker Gamer Plus is more comfortable because it sits underneath the chair, and the UShake6 is very uncomfortable because you have to sit on. will probably sell the UShake6 because for me, comfort while gaming is very important.
Welcome to haptic's. Could not longer simming without. :)) you have to turn it off when you've been flying with it for a while. you think afterwards that your back is numb. and you suddenly get totally ripped out of the immersion.
Looks great and I would like one, but $479 with discount( dont forget to add import duties) makes this excessive... I'll wait until we get a UK or eu distributor..Defford on my radar though.
the one thing I don't like is how it uses sound. It makes it more compatible but others that actually take information form the software titles logs I find better.
@@MarceloManzo I’m not sure I understand. How do you feel the landing gear? Like you feel the nose and main gear differently? I’m trying to figure what vibrations in an airplane get transmitted to you in a way other than the whole seat. But I have not piloted a real plane, so I must be missing something.
I have a Buttkicker Gamer 2 mounted under the chair in my Obutto Revolution cockpit. It does add a lot for the immersion, but the way I have mine setup it isn't real haptics. It's basicly just taking the subwoofer's audio channel and using that to shake the chair. To do the haptics right with a Buttkicker, you would need to add a dedicated sound card for them, and run software that pulls the vibration queues from the game physics. It's a bit of fiddling, but I do know of people with that kind of setup using several buttkicker transducers mounted in their cockpit. The U-Shake6 sounds like it's the same idea in a much better plug and play solution. Six transducers all on their own channels without needing an extra sound card (because it's already built in), and its own software that easily pulls the haptic queues from the game to keep things fairly simple. I might have to consider this.
Day 1 with Ushake6 and DCS and it’s a little underwhelming. It does not use telemetry yet for weapon launches and cannon firing - you need to set up a key bind to trigger these effects - which I still have not been able to actually do yet; I set up the key binds, save the profile and then nothing occurs when I fire the gun - maybe I am missing something. I had to turn off all the G settings because it felt weird and distracting. I was hoping to get thumping deck landings simulated here but not figured out that yet. Maybe I need to try a better setting but finding a guide on how to has eluded me today. Not sure there is any telemetry for afterburner in DCS - that is just greyed out and not available in the sim pro app for me. Engine and gear effects are ok and linked to telemetry and,like you said, require turning down to keep it subtle. Day 1 verdict is that this will be better once the flight sim software catches up with the car software. There is no recognition yet of stall buffet, or air brake and flaps and, even though I have not got the weapon launch/cannon fire to work at all, they are apparently generic effects anyway right now. So, not worth my $400 dollars yet, but optimistic that it will be soon because at the moment I have paid about $200 dollars each for a subtle engine effect and the wheels going up and down. More positively the build quality and installation and comfort are all pretty good.😊
The simshaker JetSeat which I have does have all the telemetries dialed in. Weapon launch, Cannon firing, high AOA buffet, and many others in there. I believe I got it for less than $200 if I remember correctly. The con for me now is cable management. I do some other work on my chair and the cables just get in the way for me.
@@ernestwinslow7316 That is useful to know - I read that the sim shaker stuff seems a little difficult to get hold of and, of course, this UShake6 only has one cable. Perhaps once the UShake6 software catches up so that more aviation telemetry is used, it will become better in the future - and it was super fast arriving. I am happy wait a bit until it does. Oddly enough the Ushake6 software does recognise my Winwing joystick for binding a cannon effect but if then fails to instigate the effect when you pull the trigger….if however, I bind the cannon effect to a keyboard button, it rumbles away no problem….still have not figured it out how the software can recognise the presence of the wing wing joystick and, even the buttons being pressed on it and yet not be able to link that to the cannon effect. I might email them to see if it is a known issue.
@@VRFlightSimGuy haha yeah mate, I just order this today using your code. You're the only one that has a 10% discount! Thanks again! I use mine specifically for sim racing.
@@nickbabalis1875 Largely subjective. Some people see a small sweet-spot on the G2, others (like me) don't have that issue. Resolution on the Pico4 is objectively lower, but some think the larger sweet spot (to them anyway) is preferred. G2 doesn't have compression like Pico 4. Pico 4 doesn't have the cable.... Can't get the P4 in the USA (without importing), G2 was recently discounted in the USA to only $300 (back to $450 now it seems).
Also great to see you trying these out and learning how much better your flights can be! 😁👍
Thanks buddy ☺️
Definition: Game Changer - "an event, idea, or procedure that effects a significant shift in the current manner of doing or thinking about something."
Tactile was a "Game Changer" for me. My Sims feel dead without it! Welcome onboard my friend!
I use a butt kicker with simracing in VR. I had the exact same experience as you did. I was very underwhelmed at first. Then I started setting it up gradually and UT became a whole different experience. Just like you, now I can't sim race without it. It even gives you useful information like when the tyres start sliding which is very important to know to save lap time. I wish I could try it with my flight sim setup but it is a hassle to switch it every time.
That's the "exact" same way sim racers with vibration haptics, have described their experiences.
That they wouldn't want to drive without the haptics going forward.
The hobby needs more force feedback sticks and yokes options!
I couldn't agree more! Time for Asobo to implement FF into MSFS (I don't know why they disabled it for the legacy FM?), and for manufacturers to start thinking about FF Rudder Pedals as well!
@@BradburgerBrunner FFB yoke works flawlessly with msfs. I use it together with the Reverb G2, it’s an absolute game changer. They have FFB rudder pedals as well but unfortunately I don’t have them.
@@mofa9999 You are talking about MSFS 2020 right? Does it do helicopter trim?
My G940 and MSFFB 2 don’t seem to work in MSFS 2020 while both of them work perfectly in DCS.
Dude, it is such a crime against gamers that force feedback is not really "a thing" for flight sticks. I shudder to imagine the price tags though
Thanks for the review and the discount code, I've been looking for one that pairs well with flight sim and sim racing! Just placed an order 🙌
Welcome to the party Steve, so glad you're enjoying haptic feedback.
Cheers mate :)
I’ve been using 4 tactile transducers for about 15 years now. One large mounted under my seat, another large mounted behind my seat, one small one on my yoke and another on my rudder pedals.
Couldn’t fly without them!
My YAW2 (on order) will be the ultimate sim experience.
Can you get me one for Christmas lmao. If I get one my social life is over for sure lol
Do you have it running on 4 channels? Just ordered parts for mine, it's gonna be 2ch for now.
I have used a buttkicker with my motion seat for a few years now.
You are absolutely right; once you have tried this out there is no going back!
I can also tell you that the software that you are using for your transducer seat is the same that drives my motion seat!
SimRacingStudio are a first class company. As well as being hugely innovated be their customer support is first class!!!
I highly recommend them and am thrilled that you are going to be working with them to help them develop the aviation side of things some more.
ordered one today, got the 10% discount thanks just got to wait until they ship it in about 4 weeks. thanks for the review
I think you're the perfect person to test this tech since you actually fly in real life. My Buttkicker Gamer 2 is good but I'd guess this UShake6 is next level.
YES, please do race sim as well!!!
It will be fab if this is really good for both!!!
So pleased to see this. I've been using the Jet Seat with Simshaker Aviation software in DCS for nearly 2 years now. Its so immersive, its hard to fly without it! The Jet Seat is the same design (6 vibrating pads) and the software is tailored to each DCS module. But it's made in Russia and is hard to purchase/replace under the current situation, if something goes wrong. I'm so pleased to see I have a back up if it fails.
@@MarceloManzo I'd like to see a comparison. To be honest, I'm not sure there would really be that much of a difference.
@@dale3869 I bet there is a big difference. It would be like just feeling "something" (its just a vibration like in a console controller) vs. like Steve said, feeling a "Big Thump" or "Engine RPMs" (because it is an actual transducer). I don't know for sure but would imagine that is the case. Anyone know for sure?
@@MarceloManzo Any idea if the software list includes IL2?
@@MarceloManzo phew... Cheers. Should be getting mine in a few weeks.
I've had the Gametrix seat for a few years. It has 6 speakers in it and I love it. Amazing.
I use Andre Jet seat and its awesome - gets data straight from DCS
Thanks for the video - ordered one as a result and used the discount code. Thanks for the video - ideal. If enough of us use your discount code it will encourage the manufacturers to refine the software ever more for flight sim use too. My plan is to use this with DCS. I have been looking for something that is good enough, cheap enough and not too much of a hassle to set up - this could be it and can’t wait until it arrives.
OK, you got me! Just ordered, thanks for the discount code and hope you get a little of it too - Merry Christmas 🎄
Nice one RJ congratulations. The code is not affiliated but that's totally ok. I hope you enjoy it, merry Christmas to you!
@@VRFlightSimGuy sorry you didn't get a cut, but as I recall you got a nice piece of kit to try out and review at no charge? So there's that.
Absolutely I'm not complaining at all RJ 🙂
I've been using bass transducers for many years for my racing sims and can't imagine going without them. I have a ton of them, 1 very large Clark transducer on front and rear, 4 medium sized Aura transducers underneath the chassis corners, and 4 of the small Dayton puck transducers between the pedal deck and inside my race seat.
The SRS setup I believe uses Daton pucks (or equivalent) inside and they can do a fantastic job at giving feedback. I think max out around 5 lbs of force each or so but combined it's quite a bit more. The Auras do around 30 lbs max each, and the Clarks....a lot lol.
I use SimXperience for my racing sims because of the software and control compared to almost everything else (plus it runs my Accuforce steering wheel). I use SRS for my bass transducers when flying though because SimXperience didn't have support when I started flying and I just never went back to check haha.
I first learned of SRS because of their Sim-Wind telemetry based fan systems, and since the day I bought those I've been a big fan. I also use those fans when flying, and they work very well with the transducers. I typically only run the Clarks and fans when flying because there are fewer channels available, but that's totally fine when flying.
I can't imagine flying without the transducers and fans...that'd be like flying without VR and I will NEVER do that again haha. 6 years of VR greatness and I keep adding things to the rig. 👍👍
(it's a full rig made of 80/20 aluminum)
I thought you said sensual feedback at the beginning! Thats thing looks great, lot of dosh though on top of everything else and yes a race sim would be interesting to see - thanks Mike
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Hello, great video with a lot of useful information.
Can you please share what are your best settings in the simracing studio to use it with MS Flight Simulator?
Thank you very much!
Very interested in a comparison to a butt kicker and this. Only issue I see is many times I lean forward while playing. I wonder if that would effect the back portion.
Looks good but how well have they done the software for flight sims (IL2 in my case)? I can't find any vids for this being used with IL2 unfortunately.
I use this in iracing.. It's amazing for tire grip and road feel.
I have a buttkicker on my chair since some years, but because I'm not so much into sim games I didn't use it that much in games. I used it mostly for Elite Dangerous, when I played it more at that time and it also helped to feel the ship a bit more. Today I use the buttkicker mostly when I watch movies for the extra kick and without the need to make the subwoofer louder.
Awesome Video! How do you feel about using this in an apartment? I had to return the buttkicker 2 because it was very loud and rumbled the floor
Sounds a lot like the Buttkicker. When I first hooked it up and went down the taxiway, it blew my mind. You could feel all the bumps in the taxiway. Where it really shines is in stalls. You can actually feel the buffet right before the stall and can fix it before it happens.
@@MarceloManzo Sounds really good. I know some other chair pads like this don't really last though. Most fall apart after a year of good use. Hopefully the build quality is better on this one.
Just got one of these! Can you share your recommended tuning settings?
I bought something called Jet Seat - same idea and for driving and flying is brilliant. Perhaps have a look at that and compare the two....If you can't afford a simulator this is the next best thing. The JetSeat was black with orange piping - was a pain in the arse to get it working in both racing and flight but once sorted it was sorted. I bought it second in excellent condition.
Have you tried it with any jet fighters? A different set of vibrations and sounds, so I'm wondering if this has the ability for such a wide range. I'd like to know how it does with the Grumman F-14 Tomcat series (A, B D) and the PBY Catalina.
Have you tried / can you try the seat with IL2? How does it feel?
Do you think you could do some more videos with ushake6. Would love to know more and also other devices too.
Many thanks
I have Reverb G2 and 3080, would it be better to upgrade to Aero or get 4090 and super sample it with Reverb G2.
Great video! Hope you can get your hands on the HF8 to compare? Either i get Ushake or HF8. Mostly play dcs🙌 ps dont forget to show me the ingame settings for dcs❣️
I’m a fan of SRS. The software works well with my DOF motions platform. This is a decent alternative to Andres Jet Seat and Simshaker software, but not nearly as customizable. The jet seat/simshaker make better use of sim telemetry and allow for emphasis of specific things like stall buffet, VRS in helicopters, ground bumps and of course weapons. Sadly, it’s a bit tough to get your hands on one right now.
I've used the Gametrix KW-908 JetSeat for many years in DCS and it's an essential part of my VR setup. When i first got it i tested it in DCS with default settings in Simshaker on a monitor. My initial thought was "have i just bought a massage-mat?" as it felt a bit underwhelming and disconnected. After some adjustments and using it in VR for a few hours i disconnected to see the difference. It felt like something was missing, not just for the immersion, but also for "feeling" the plane. Getting feedback on high AOA is invaluable. It also helped me with motion sickness. Before i got the JetSeat i couldn't do acrobatics or rolls without getting nauseous. Same thing with driving games in VR.
Did you get the USHAKE to work with Andres' software? I own it but have no idea if its worth trying
Hey buddy do you have a shared profile I can start with im getting mine in Friday or can you copy your settings and put them in the description thanks buddy
Great video. And 6:43 - 6:53 took the video to a whole new level👍
Without even checking I just KNOW which part that is 😂😂
@@VRFlightSimGuy LMAO
Didn't want to mention that! 😂
@@sascenturion 😂Someone had to, right ?
How has it been using this since the initial release? Strongly considering this
Big change I will add this to the VR flying :) Also I am looking for a device/servo wich creates shocks and vibrations like the Microsoft Sidewinder Forced Feedback did (20 years ago hehe). For example you put this on the bottom of your seat or desk. What is the name of this kind of devices?
Steve. can you do a settings video on this as I have just bought and as you bit disappointed initially. I have messed with the limited settings but not getting the change you described.
Also . With my dof h3
Motion platform you feel the ge force as you accelerate down the runway its like you get thrown back in the seat same when you land and brake you are thrown forward in the seat.once you go motion platform theres no going back
Hi, great review. Have you tried it for sim racing yet? I am looking at this on an iPad but can’t find the 10% discount code, could you please reply with it to make it a bit more affordable. Thanks in anticipation John
will you be making an updated review like you said?
Hi are you getting sound from your tranducers?
@VRFlightSimGuy - please could you share your uShake SRS profile as I am struggling to get this dialed in?
Is this working thru sound only, I mean vibrations.
I have been using a buttkicker and transducers for several years for sim racing and more recently MSFS2020. I just researched this U-Shake unit and it seems a good unit but I feel that most people would be better off, in the long term, getting some transducers and an appropriate amplifier and software setting it up on their seat or rig themselves. I started off with the Buttkicker and now have 6 transducers attached to my rig as well. I have learned a lot and am glad I went the DIY route even though I started with very little expertise in this area.
You are correct, DIY is MUCH better! However, this is easy, quick, and sufficient out of the gate. You could probably consider it a gateway to DIY.
So... This UShake6 compared to Buttkicker Gamer Plus, compared to Andres JetSeat, which one should we get? US6 and ButtKicker GP cost about the same...
Which one is the best for VR Flying and DCS?
Can you try it with a racing game?or you only show plain rides on this channel?
Do they only sell and ship directly, from Canada? If they do, that's the deal breaker for me there, considering the shipping cost and taxes...
Does this software works with the buttkicker also for msfs?
Hey! Another great video! Have you tried this out for DCS? I’m tempted to get this for DCS and MSFS..
Thankyou! Not yet. But it's on my to do list
Does it work for helicopters? G effect and so on.
Seems like a fun addon.. Kindof like a halfway house between nothing and one of those motion contraptions. Still a bit pricey though, it seems. But a fancy vibrator it is!
Here's hoping settings can be shared.
This would be awesome strapped to a YAW2 chair!!!
Anyone know how to setup/configure the seat with Simshaker for Aviators?
Awesome!
I find FSRealistic really tops off haptic feedback with the additional camera movement
Have you ever had a chance to try the Yaw VR 2? I'd be interested to know what your thought on that with MSFS would be.
I would love to try it some day
I use 2 butt kickers for DCS. If you have a seat like this or butt kickers and they stop working it would be like going from flying VR to flying with a black and white flat screen with no audio. Once you have it you can't fly without it.
Why this over the gametrix jetpad or next level racing HF8 pad both of which have 6 inducers too yet less than half the price? I have the gametrix already which basically does the same thing but wondering why this is so much more
I have a big car sub I converted into a kind of transducer buttkicker and for now it’s just wired into a second amp that plays off the sims audio output. Seems to work well as you just feel the low frequencies which normally relate to something you would feel IRL. I don’t fly without now as it feels a big part of immersion missing. It’s the way forward, honestly. I hope it takes off 😉 😂
Test your Amp setup with the free SRS software. It will be awesome. It is free, so you'd have nothing to lose.
The last thing I need is another peripheral for my ever growing sim shopping list lol
Thanks
Welcome
Would be very interesting to see a comparision of the SRS pad with the new HF8 Haptic Feedback Seat Pad from nextlevelracing. With its 8 zones driven by vibration motors the latter compares to Andre's Simshaker pad, that unfortunately is a bit hard to get, but an excellent value. The HF8 is also cheaper than the SRS.
The Hf8 is probably cheaper because it uses spinners, rather than powerful transducers.
@@VRFlightSimGuy But as you said somewhere, you haven't yet tested any other body feedback pad yet, correct? So a direct comparision between spinners and transducers would be very welcomed for anyone having thoughts of going into that direction.
@@therightstuff8216 I would love to try one for sure!
Can you please try with jets and rotary please?
Guess I'll chuck the butt kicker in the trash and get one of these! OMG. How cool! Can't wait for haptic gloves to be perfect so we can use the panel switches and knobs in VR! I'm betting a full haptic jacket is not far off. No need for any controllers. Haptics can limited your movements in order to simulator solid object interactions and fully trick our brain. THAT will be the real game changer even over better graphics!
I have a Buttkicker 2 but I don't really use it, it's just to fiddly to set up: I just don't have the patience!
You should try simshaker jetpad and do a comparison
hey buddy do you have a profile for msf to give me a starting point
I've always considered a "shaking a s s ;-) " to be a "must have" piece of equipment when using VR. I've written about this many times before (even on your channel).
And although I only use Buttkicker and not the "shaky" mat, I can't use any simulator without it anyway.
Without it, the flight is indeed sterile and barren. For me, it's a game changer ;-)
I have Buttkicker Gamer Pro I only got a few months ago - to be honest, this seat shaker seems to me like it has a lot more functionality and makes more sense. Pity I didn't know about this before I ordered the Buttkicker. Seems its popular too as its sold out "Back order. Orders after Jan 27 will start shipping Mar/Apr 2023"
Hi Steve. Mark from Simhanger has just purchased and reviewed a different haptic feedback seat pad from yours using 8 Spinners instead of the 6 transducers in yours. It also doesn't need an amplifier and is almost half the price of the one you are using. I've suggested that he gives you a visit and tries yours (and you his) to get a review by someone that has tried both types of haptic seat. That would be very interesting.
Hi Peter, yes I've seen his review, very interesting indeed! It would be great to compare them, although I'd imagine the transducers will give a much greater impact, this still looks to be a great alternative for a cheaper price point.
testing it with a race sim would be nice
Can you try out DCS and make a video, very interesting!
Great idea thanks 👍
That can really get you hooked. I have been flying the gametrix game seat that has 6 transducers. Although it does not require as much hardware as the UShake6 HAPTC seat but does the something and I never fly without it. However for the price with as many games and sim it support with that much granularity of control of the sound and frequency, I guess it is a worthy nice replacement since the Gametric is no longer available. Mine is a bit worn but still somewhat functional but is needs to be replace. I will keep an eye on this.
@@MarceloManzo I can see it in the software where there is a lot of granular adjustment. It would interesting in trying it out at some point. Like I said, it would be a nice replacement for what I have now. But I have to look at that price before I can dive into getting it. I have to watch out for the wife lol.
So, based on this video I saw a few weeks ago I purchased this U-shake6. I'm not so sure this is quite ready for Airplanes yet, though. The engine rumble feels like it is coming from the sub-woofer as well as taxi/runway bumps. I have yet to feel any sensation from any other drivers, other possibly the L/R rear ones. It's hard to tell as they are so close to the Sub. That's not to say I'm disappointed in the device at all, however. Just the engine RPM being felt is indeed amazing. On a recent takeoff, I must have been smacked by some turbulence because I felt a strong thump that actually startled me. I said to myself, Wow, This is great!
I'm wondering what the theory of operation is? Are the individual drivers activated by the audio that is sent to the speakers, or is it reading the RPM values in the sim data? If that's the case, what variable would be available for turbulence? If audio sound is the source, as far as I know, the sim audio output is stereo, so that could only feed 2 drivers plus the sub. I don't know. I guess I'll have to try to reach out to the Sim Racing dudes (or dudettes).
Just think how great it would be for them to come out with an attachment to add to the yoke and rudder pedals...
Thanks for your feedback. The thump you felt may have been from your gear retracting. But I agree, some parts of the experience are amazing, yet others need some work. We need better support and telemetry from the sim, something I'm hoping they are looking into.
@@VRFlightSimGuy No the thump was sometime after the gear went up, (I did feel that). There are lots of effects that work great. I'm just curious about the L/R forward drivers. Can you say for sure that you have felt anything from yours? If so, what caused it?
How does it compare with the Next Level Racing HF8 - Haptic Feedback Gaming Pad?
I've no idea sorry
How loud is this baby? Okay for apartments?
I was about to buy a butkicker, but this seems so much better!
Does it work with DCS?
Dude don't call of the wedding, this won't work as well as getting married lol🤣 Sorry couldn't resist.
I have both and used it on my office chair and the Buttkicker Gamer Plus is more comfortable because it sits underneath the chair, and the UShake6 is very uncomfortable because you have to sit on. will probably sell the UShake6 because for me, comfort while gaming is very important.
Could you put this on your sofa and sit on it to use it?
Please do a full review with DCS.
Anyone know if you can use this with sim hub?
Love lee on solent airport - about 5/10 minutes down the road from me :)
try it in il2 and dcs its even better
just thank putting that seat on yaw 2 with now b haptic support cant weight for these seats there on back order
Welcome to haptic's. Could not longer simming without. :)) you have to turn it off when you've been flying with it for a while. you think afterwards that your back is numb. and you suddenly get totally ripped out of the immersion.
Looks great and I would like one, but $479 with discount( dont forget to add import duties) makes this excessive... I'll wait until we get a UK or eu distributor..Defford on my radar though.
Cheers Steve!
the one thing I don't like is how it uses sound. It makes it more compatible but others that actually take information form the software titles logs I find better.
If this was 10, what would the Buttkicker be? Is it worth upgrading?
@@MarceloManzo I’m not sure I understand. How do you feel the landing gear? Like you feel the nose and main gear differently? I’m trying to figure what vibrations in an airplane get transmitted to you in a way other than the whole seat. But I have not piloted a real plane, so I must be missing something.
I have a Buttkicker Gamer 2 mounted under the chair in my Obutto Revolution cockpit. It does add a lot for the immersion, but the way I have mine setup it isn't real haptics. It's basicly just taking the subwoofer's audio channel and using that to shake the chair.
To do the haptics right with a Buttkicker, you would need to add a dedicated sound card for them, and run software that pulls the vibration queues from the game physics. It's a bit of fiddling, but I do know of people with that kind of setup using several buttkicker transducers mounted in their cockpit.
The U-Shake6 sounds like it's the same idea in a much better plug and play solution. Six transducers all on their own channels without needing an extra sound card (because it's already built in), and its own software that easily pulls the haptic queues from the game to keep things fairly simple. I might have to consider this.
Anyone try this in MSFS2022 (helicopters)? can you feel the skids touch down?
Day 1 with Ushake6 and DCS and it’s a little underwhelming. It does not use telemetry yet for weapon launches and cannon firing - you need to set up a key bind to trigger these effects - which I still have not been able to actually do yet; I set up the key binds, save the profile and then nothing occurs when I fire the gun - maybe I am missing something. I had to turn off all the G settings because it felt weird and distracting. I was hoping to get thumping deck landings simulated here but not figured out that yet. Maybe I need to try a better setting but finding a guide on how to has eluded me today. Not sure there is any telemetry for afterburner in DCS - that is just greyed out and not available in the sim pro app for me. Engine and gear effects are ok and linked to telemetry and,like you said, require turning down to keep it subtle. Day 1 verdict is that this will be better once the flight sim software catches up with the car software. There is no recognition yet of stall buffet, or air brake and flaps and, even though I have not got the weapon launch/cannon fire to work at all, they are apparently generic effects anyway right now. So, not worth my $400 dollars yet, but optimistic that it will be soon because at the moment I have paid about $200 dollars each for a subtle engine effect and the wheels going up and down. More positively the build quality and installation and comfort are all pretty good.😊
The simshaker JetSeat which I have does have all the telemetries dialed in. Weapon launch, Cannon firing, high AOA buffet, and many others in there. I believe I got it for less than $200 if I remember correctly. The con for me now is cable management. I do some other work on my chair and the cables just get in the way for me.
@@ernestwinslow7316 That is useful to know - I read that the sim shaker stuff seems a little difficult to get hold of and, of course, this UShake6 only has one cable. Perhaps once the UShake6 software catches up so that more aviation telemetry is used, it will become better in the future - and it was super fast arriving. I am happy wait a bit until it does. Oddly enough the Ushake6 software does recognise my Winwing joystick for binding a cannon effect but if then fails to instigate the effect when you pull the trigger….if however, I bind the cannon effect to a keyboard button, it rumbles away no problem….still have not figured it out how the software can recognise the presence of the wing wing joystick and, even the buttons being pressed on it and yet not be able to link that to the cannon effect. I might email them to see if it is a known issue.
Do you still use it?
Steve, can you please give me the link to your chair what is the name brand it looks very comfortable
Secret Labs Titan Chair. Although it doesn't fit perfectly without drilling a few holes
@@VRFlightSimGuyok what chair do you have on your motion rig
@@VRFlightSimGuy will the u shake work on a motion rig
@@richardPalmisano The Secret Labs Titan Chair as I've just mentioned. Together with the Haptic Seat (I've mentioned this in countless videos) 👍
@@VRFlightSimGuy ok thanks so it will work on my h3 and if I use the titan chair, I will have to modify it to fig on the motion rig
Are cooling fans super loud like shake elite?
@@MarceloManzo oh wow. That’s awesome. I might replace mine with it then. Thank you!
Hei, how does it work in DCS and IL 2 ???
It works great!
I want one. What was that code for 10% off? :)
In the description 👍
just ordered with your code
Well played. I'm surprised it's still working!
@@VRFlightSimGuy haha yeah mate, I just order this today using your code. You're the only one that has a 10% discount! Thanks again! I use mine specifically for sim racing.
How is Pico 4 compared to Reverb g2 with a 4090 ?In terms of clarity and smoothness?
Had the g2, 20% in focus 80% out of focus, pico 4, the other way around. Pico 4 is the best value atm.
@@johnmann7o2 so the clarity is better than g2?
@@nickbabalis1875 Largely subjective. Some people see a small sweet-spot on the G2, others (like me) don't have that issue. Resolution on the Pico4 is objectively lower, but some think the larger sweet spot (to them anyway) is preferred. G2 doesn't have compression like Pico 4. Pico 4 doesn't have the cable.... Can't get the P4 in the USA (without importing), G2 was recently discounted in the USA to only $300 (back to $450 now it seems).
Does it work with openXR toolkit and PimaxXR?
Why wouldn't it? 🤔
Have motion and transducers and it feels very 'Dead' without them.