✅✅✅ 2009 - 2014 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecoboost Coolant Drain and Fill. How Much Coolant Can We Drain Out???
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I use several methods to try to drain as much old coolant as possible from the engine and cooling system on my 2013 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecoboost truck. Once drained, I mix and refill the cooling system with the new Motorcraft yellow coolant. This new coolant provides better lubrication and protection for the water pump as well as provide additional additives that prevent corrosion better than the original coolant.
I have found that the same issue applies to the 3.5 Ford Flex where less than half of the cooling system can be drained using these methods.
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There’s a flush method where you remove the small hose that feeds in to the coolant bottle and divert that to a bucket. Allow the truck to warm up to operating temp. Remove that hose and put it into a bucket. Have someone hold the RPM at 2,000 and fluid will begin to come out. As it’s coming out, continue to add fluid to the reservoir so that it never runs below the larger tube at the bottom of the bottle. This method will allow you to get all of the fluid out without ever losing the original vacuum the cooling system had. When I’ve done this I first replace all of the fluid with distilled water, then I add concentrate and use a refractometer to check the concentration after a road test. It’s by far the cheapest and easiest way to flush the cooling system at home.
How many gallons of distilled water do you use to flush it out?
@@nmnarzI usually buy like 2 times the cooling system capacity when I am doing this. You'll basically be done with the water once you get nothing but clear fluid coming out though and that may not take more than the capacity to do.
Great video great information thank you sir. My drain plug was hard to get my fingers around it. But a flat head screwdriver fits in it perfectly.
I used this video to help with my coolant change and here's how I did it. 4 gallons of distilled water plus 2 gallons of concentrate. I drained under 2 gallons of the orange coolant , then I poured in 2 gallons of distilled water. Ran the engine with cabin heater for 10min. Drained it again while adding the 3rd and 4th gallon of distilled water with a little yellow mixed in. Then added the rest of first gallon of yellow. At this point I started draining into a clear bottle so I could check the coolant color coming out. Once it was almost completely clear, I closed the petcock, and starting adding 2nd yellow concentrate until it was just above the full mark. Took it out for a drive and came back slowly opened the cap and let out some air bubbles. The coolant went down a bit and it's now testing - 25F with a cheap coolant tester and it's all yellow now in the reservoir. Looks great to me.
There are more than 4 gallons (16.5 quarts) of coolant in his 3.5 Ecoboost, but he only drained 1.75 gallons. In other words, he mixed the old with the new coolant.
I noticed that also Melvin, I want all the old coolant out personally. However it is ok to mix the new yellow with the orange coolant.
I did my F150 3.5 last week. I used a flush product from Advance auto. After draining I added the quart of flush with two gallons of distilled water. I drove the truck about 100 miles then drained the systems again. I noticed that the orange fluid that was still in the engine colored the flush and water. I think in your case you will find that the orange that was still in the engine that you will see a hybrid yellow/orange fluid. Like you said no big deal, you can redo it later.
On my sons 2010 we went as far as removing the water pump and flushing the engine with constant water flow from the thermostat housing as well as a heater core hose. We still found we had orange coolant left over.
Thanks. Was planning to do this without flushing. Just drain and fill like what you did.
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Thanks for the video! Question??? Using air pressure also, it appears only half the systems coolant came out. How do we get most of it purged from the system?? Anyone? Thank you.
awsome helpfull video thank you
Since you didn't purge all of the old orange Motorcraft coolant from your cooling system with the contaminants suspended in it (approximately half the 16.5 quart system capacity) you'll have a mixture of the yellow and orange Motorcraft coolants. Are they compatible and does Ford recommend that?
Yes they are. Ford authorizes the new yellow coolant to be used to top off and to fill the cooling system and to replace the orange coolant. There is no way to remove all the coolant from the system other than to pay a Ford dealership to use their machine to flush it out. Hence the steps I attempted. I found the same holds true for the 3.5 Ford Flex. There is a plug you can remove behind the alternator where a block heater can be installed however the intake tubing, belts, and alternator would have to be taken out to get access to it. This is why I said it was cost effective enough that I could drain and refill again in 3 months. You can attempt a flush with tap water filling and draining but then you have tap water contamination plus you would have a concentration of water in the system that you could not dilute to 50/50 even if adding concentrated coolant back in.
Here is Ford's guidance: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/quickref/FCSD%2520Motorcraft%2520Yellow%2520Antifreeze-Coolant%2520Backward%2520Compatability.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjZ4-SQnKvtAhVKKKwKHX8iA78QFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1rsUToFiHfp9TENDDYrRTZ
@@BOSSC351sProductions Thanks much for the rapid reply and for the time and effort you devoted to this video. It helps DYIers like myself to learn and in the process to save time and money in servicing our own vehicles. Respect!
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@@BOSSC351sProductions yup I confirmed with my nearest ford dealer. I got the yellow concentrate, I dumped 2 gallons, after I did my pump and flush... ill take any tips and advise thanks....good video btw...
Thanks buddy 👍
Great video thank you sir 👍🏻
I put 2 gallons on my 2013 5.0, after I changed my water pump, and flushed it, I hope its not too much the rest I put distilled water....any one can relate?
Thx for your video!!!
You have a sweet truck there.......... love it
Thank you!
Thank you for a thoughtful HOW TO video, done with the non-mechanics @ home in mind. Hari bol, Appreciate it! Dave Randas
Thanks! Beautiful truck.
Thanks for the video but I can't find the drain plug. I have a 2012, 3.5 v6 echo boost. Can you show me in more detail exactly where it is? Thank you.
Are you not able to locate a replacement pan? The stock pan does not have a drain plug.
U mean the radiator petcock? Passenger side
Love the vids keep them up. Help me be able to keep my truck running well
My 2018 drained very slow and only one gallon came out. What am I missing? Used a drain hose and had the cap off....
It is slow. This is why I applied some air pressure to the tank to force more out.
Mine took 1.5 hrs to get 1 gallon drained.
thanks for the video, but any tips on getting rid of grim from the coolant. like clumps of grey i found the rad cap
I can tell you from first hand knowledge, short of pulling the engine and tipping and turning it over you will not get all the old coolant out. Here is what I suggest you do if you are serious about cooling system health. Remove the coolant tank/air cleaner assy from the truck and wash the the tank out best you can. Get several cups of crushed ice and pour it in the tank and shake like hell. Keep doing this until all the grime and crap is cleaned from the walls of the tank. Rinse well. Drain the cooling system like I did in the video and refill with the new yellow coolant. Drive the truck for a few hundred miles. And repeat. Drive a few hundred miles and repeat. Do this until the coolant is either clear or you are happy with the result. Your only other option is to go to a dealer and have them power flush the system with a machine. In my experience even after changing the coolant twice, when I drained it the third time to perform a timing system/oil pump/water pump change I found I still had orange coolant coming out of the block. They either do not actually mix together combining the colors or the cooling system circulates so slow it never really forces all the old coolant from the block. I really do not know. Just remember to keep water/coolant ratios at 50/50 from start to finish or you will have too much of one or the other.
@@BOSSC351sProductions thanks for the tips. Ima have a good day of work ahead of me
These two coolants are backward compatible. Meaning you don't have to make sure you get all the old coolants out.
I noticed my truck didn’t had any coolant and added green one but looks contaminated so I’ll do a flush and replace the coolant
Every ford vehicle after 2011 has to use orange or yellow motorcraft coolant
i bought the 50 50 mix yellow motorcraft it says do not add water?
Correct. Its already mixed. Concentrate is not.
@@BOSSC351sProductions badass video sir will help me tackle the project this weekend easy , dealership wants 200 for a coolant exchange ha
When you blew the air, were you at the top of the radiator when the cap goes? I will be using the green stuff since my f53 7.5L V8 is 1997.
The degass tank.
@@BOSSC351sProductions is that the same as coolant reservoir?
@@QLFProductions Yes. Surge tank. Overflow.
Green coolant could cause compatibility issues plus not provide needed lubrication for the pump. Good luck!
@@BOSSC351sProductions for my Ford F53 7.5L V8 motor home chassis. The coolant in it is green. Also I did the research and the coolant I will use meets Ford ESE-M97B44-A standard which is exactly what the owners manual calls for.
Does this procedure apply to the 5.0 engine?
Pretty much same procedure should work. It does on the 5.4. I have not worked with a 5.0.
Yes and you'll only get about 2 gallons
Awesome video. Appreciate the information on how to do this. I noticed the K&N air filter on your truck. Could you do a video of how to properly clean it? I have the same truck as in the video.
Yes I can. I have a truck in right now with a neglected filter letting dirt in so that may be what I will do the video on. Right now though I have to reinstall the heads and get it back going first.
I saw orange coming out n yellow going in.
Yellow is the new coolant and is compatable with orange.
@@BOSSC351sProductions you may want to make your link to the Ford bulletin a Sticky so others can easily find it at the top of the comments.
I have a ‘13 Focus I bought new. I did a drain and refill with Orange in ‘17, then did a drain and refill with Yellow in ‘21. This summer I did a drain and refill with Yellow. So far so good
I live near Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. According to my dealer, their biggest problem with Orange was that in extreme cold weather, the Orange would gel and plug heater cores in F150’s
Excellent video keep it up
What if your coolant is not draining out the reservoir box?
I have never seen one that would not. As soon as the petcock is opened you should see the coolant level dropping.
@@BOSSC351sProductions yea, apparently it is just a reserve box, so it does not drain that easy, lol
@@weozol4065 It should be a surge tank and immediately drain. Big hose coming out the bottom going to the engine?
@@BOSSC351sProductions negative it's a different engine 4.6l 2 v, no hose on the bottom just a reserve, took me way too long to figure it out. Non pressurized cap on my overflow reserve box.
@@weozol4065 OK. Makes sense now. 👍
Do you happen to know what size the drain hose?
Thank you
5/16
What happens if you dont add water to the coolent?
It would be unable to transfer heat from the engine to the radiator and cook the engine.
@@BOSSC351sProductions
I have poured 2 gallons
from coolant to a f 150 2011 5.0L from what I see in your video I have done the process wrong. How far can I travel and not cook my engine? I ask because I want to take it to a place that knows how to do the process.
@@vicentebchacon it’s probably fine, just a waste of money to put concentrate in there. I would drain a gallon, then add a gallon of distilled water. Should be good
Dumb noob question here. why not just flush it with a garden hose, won't that get most of the coolant out?
When you do that 1: you add minerals to the cooling system that cause corrosion especially if you have well water.. 2: you do not know how much water is in the system that you must offset with concentrated coolant.
If the system is already contaminated and has corrosion then your best bet may be to let a Ford dealer use their flush machine on it instead.
There are block plugs on either side you can remove but that is only if you can reach them. I found them when I pulled my engine to rebuild it.
What size tube are you using...do you remember?
I believe it was 5/16.
Same diameter for the 2014?
No air bleeding need?
No. The bottle is basically a degass tank anyway. When filling you are pushing out the air through the bottle already. Any pockets will automatically fill and air will escape directly to the bottle.
@@BOSSC351sProductions Thank you
Where'd you get those fender flares? Dealership?
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6:00 How did you blow air?
Air compressor and air nozzle positioned at the degass bottle. Covered the gole with a rag to help seal it off.
Great vid but that intro was loooonng
Sorry about that!
I hate being that guy but, deionized water is bad for the cooling system. You should used softened water. Distilled or deionized water strips electrons/ions from the metal, causing extreme corrosion.
Per Motorcraft instructions: "A 50/50 mixture of this antifreeze/coolant and distilled water provides year-round freeze protection down to -34 °F (-36.7 °C) and boiling protection up to 265 °F (129 °C)"
@@BOSSC351sProductions You're doing the right thing and it's according to Ford's recommended procedure. In laymen terms, distilled water is more "pure" than soft water and does not have the salt that soft water has.
Corrosion is complicated and sometimes non-intuitive, but deionized water "stripping electrons" from metal doesn't make sense to me in a giant conductive metal system. It is well known that salt water does exacerbate corrosion in metallic systems including automobiles.
I've replaced so many cooling systems on my own cars from using distilled water. Took me years to figure it out. If you change it every year, no harm. Leave it in for longer and it could cause damage.
That's true if the cooling system was pure distilled water. Once mixed with antifreeze it's no longer pure water. If your theory was correct there would be class action lawsuits.
I was replacing my rusted out water heater every 5 years even though I have soft water. I now check and replace the anode rod every couple years. No problems with corrosion since.