10 Bands RUINED by One Disgraced Member

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  • čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
  • These disgraced musicians ruined everything for their bandmates. Welcome to WatchMojo, and today we’re looking at some of the worst instances of bands dissolving or losing their reputation thanks to the actions of one disgraced member. Our countdown of bands ruined by one disgraced member includes Five Finger Death Punch, Hedley, As I Lay Dying, and more! Do you still listen to these bands, despite the controversy? Let us know in the comments below!
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  • @WatchMojo
    @WatchMojo  Před 16 dny +43

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    • @carlomiller1984
      @carlomiller1984 Před 15 dny +5

      I never listened to any of these bands anyway, except for The Mammas & Pappas.

    • @24quorthonschuldiner62
      @24quorthonschuldiner62 Před 15 dny +3

      Yes!! I could careless what the band members do or believe as long as I like the music. I love Dissection, Emperor, Gorgoroth & Mayhem despite the controversy

    • @fuzzynator2964
      @fuzzynator2964 Před 15 dny +4

      The fact that Anti Flag is missing is a disgrace

    • @satisfied656
      @satisfied656 Před 15 dny +4

      I´ve never heard of one of these bands before🤔.....this had to be scrapped from the bottom of the barrel🙄

    • @AshtontheCryptid
      @AshtontheCryptid Před 15 dny +1

      Nope!! I stopped listening to LP as soon as I heard about Ian and his abhorrent actions. I also stopped listening to Mindless Self Indulgence and Marilyn Manson for what they have done too. MSI is a band full of p3d0s and Marilyn is a narcissitic abuser. I will not give money, time, or energy to people like this. I do not support abuse, harming children, nazi shit, or anything of the sort.

  • @jadepixie2719
    @jadepixie2719 Před 15 dny +792

    We all knew that Ian Watkins was going to be number 1.

    • @MrWii000
      @MrWii000 Před 15 dny +35

      Honestly, none of these picks are more heinous than Ian Watkins.

    • @eric829
      @eric829 Před 15 dny +33

      And class with a capital C on WatchMojo for saying his acts were so heinous that they couldn't mention it.

    • @VicarOfMayhem
      @VicarOfMayhem Před 14 dny +5

      Indeed! I'm ok with Mayhem coming second to that P.O.S. even though they are pretty heinous as well

    • @youmadbro9024
      @youmadbro9024 Před 14 dny +5

      Because we all know what he did ..... Absolutely disgusting. 😢

    • @ashleighbowyer8959
      @ashleighbowyer8959 Před 13 dny +4

      @@eric829I mean yeah but that’s why I watch the video to find out why ppl got kicked out. Still I’ll take it as I sign I’m better off not knowing

  • @ianbrennan9635
    @ianbrennan9635 Před 15 dny +454

    "There is not enough pain in the world for that dude."
    - Corey Taylor on Ian Watkins.

    • @feraltaco4783
      @feraltaco4783 Před 12 dny +19

      I already loved Corey but he now has a special place in my heart for that comment.

    • @natl5692
      @natl5692 Před 11 dny +3

      I don't know if taking Corey (dude is an ass) as an exemple is great, but the point is there.

    • @MissKateKatie
      @MissKateKatie Před 6 dny

      ​@@natl5692he may be an ass, but he's never raped anyone. Let alone a child

    • @SpiderRiviera
      @SpiderRiviera Před 6 dny

      @@natl5692 I'd say it's even more on-point. W|hen assholes are calling you out for your shitty behaviour, you know it's a level of cunt above.

  • @maxmazzotti6651
    @maxmazzotti6651 Před 15 dny +577

    Ian Watkins is as deplorable as Jimmy Savile

    • @thedude3065
      @thedude3065 Před 15 dny +66

      I'd argue worse
      as Slipknot's Corey Taylor put it best
      "There's not enough pain in the world for that dude."

    • @roguejester4986
      @roguejester4986 Před 15 dny +6

      Some may say he(either one) is worse.

    • @bieberhole42069
      @bieberhole42069 Před 15 dny

      @@thedude3065 do...do you know how many women and children savile raped or

    • @brentOhlookAsnake
      @brentOhlookAsnake Před 14 dny +13

      ⁠@@thedude3065nah man. I think you’re thinking of Corey Taylor from Stone Sour 🤣

    • @RCMN-2024
      @RCMN-2024 Před 14 dny

      Im on the fence here, jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris toured hospitals and abused the vulnerable kids and disabled sexually and they had no voice for their trauma also. Was like a shopping centre of choice for them, people involved knew what was going on, covered up and those that tried to speak out were silenced and careers ruined, those brave souls deserve an apology, the BBC knew what they were doing. These facts are brought up in many documentaries on these evil pedos

  • @edwinsaez82
    @edwinsaez82 Před 14 dny +83

    I'm disappointed that Ian Watkins isn't called out for what he did in the video. You don't have to describe what he did, but not calling him a psychotic pedophile is pretty weak in my opinion. That guy is a monster!

    • @metalzonemt-2
      @metalzonemt-2 Před 7 dny

      I think using certain words would get their videos demonitized.

    • @WulfenLooseInLondon
      @WulfenLooseInLondon Před 5 dny +1

      @@metalzonemt-2some things are more important than money

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold Před 3 dny +3

      @@WulfenLooseInLondon
      This is a commercial channel, you think they actually care about anything they draw content from?

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold Před 3 dny

      I just read the Wiki article and I wonder, does the guy come from a very influental family or something like that?
      Cause the fact that absolutely nothing about his family is mentioned and that he had to get reported countless times before anything happened makes me think there's important information missing.

  • @catkittycatkity6482
    @catkittycatkity6482 Před 14 dny +52

    Ivan and 5fdp are still good, he’s gone sober for multiple years now and is working to better himself and the band

  • @danmccarthy4700
    @danmccarthy4700 Před 15 dny +305

    I don't know what's worse, Ian Watkins' behavior or the fact that police knew about it for years and did nothing.

    • @Harry_Ballzonya
      @Harry_Ballzonya Před 15 dny +30

      It’s the courts and judges. Cops can’t do anything without a judges signature.

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x Před 14 dny +25

      That the police/courts/attorneys/judges knew. So not only was the monster allowed to continue knowing he was getting away with it, but those whose duty it is to protect the innocent + defenseless let it it keep happening.

    • @TheLampini
      @TheLampini Před 14 dny +22

      LOTS of people knew about it for years.. I hope they all have nightmares every single night..

    • @GhostNinja0007
      @GhostNinja0007 Před 13 dny +20

      He just got stabbed in prison🤣😭

    • @gmailisaretard
      @gmailisaretard Před 13 dny

      @@Bman32x Remember kids, the cops have no duty to protect you any more then they do to ensure your saftey!

  • @ChipitaDraws
    @ChipitaDraws Před 13 dny +70

    In my opinion Euronymous from Mayhem should have also been included on the list since he himself was so deranged that he coerced his bandmate Dead into committing suicide, then photographing his dead body and turning it into an album cover.

    • @beddingdowninbedlam
      @beddingdowninbedlam Před 11 dny +11

      Yeah the whole story of that entire band is a wild one, to say the least.

    • @jakeholmes4572
      @jakeholmes4572 Před 10 dny +2

      I knew about the album cover, but I didn't know it was his bandmate who he essentially assisted his suicide holy shit

    • @ChipitaDraws
      @ChipitaDraws Před 10 dny +5

      @@jakeholmes4572 He took advantage of Dead‘s depression and emotionally abused him until he couldn‘t take it anymore

    • @siriussten
      @siriussten Před 9 dny +2

      The scandinavian black/deathmetal scene in the 80s/90s is a whole mess

    • @Plottoberry
      @Plottoberry Před 7 dny

      ...?!!

  • @85ddrummer
    @85ddrummer Před 15 dny +369

    At least we can rejoice in the fact that Ian Watkins is repeatedly under attack in jail and recently got shanked because of a drug debt

    • @neil420allday
      @neil420allday Před 14 dny +19

      He isn’t repeatedly under attack in jail, he was attacked once due to the celebrity status he seems to get in jail and the fact that people were getting guitar lessons off of him and woman still wrote to him as fans, not due to a drug debt.

    • @Pheromx
      @Pheromx Před 14 dny +1

      He gets released in a couple years

    • @FreshOutTheSlammer_
      @FreshOutTheSlammer_ Před 13 dny

      ​@@neil420alldayWrong. He was shanked the other day over a drug debt. He got spice off of another inmate with a prison value of $150. Because he's a rich, psychopathic pedo, they demanded $900, and he refused to pay. That's why he was shanked.

    • @noahnicholas4551
      @noahnicholas4551 Před 13 dny +7

      ​@Pheromx couple years? he got a 29 year sentence. he's only served 11. He's still got 18 years to go.

    • @michaelmignone5869
      @michaelmignone5869 Před 13 dny +4

      ​@@neil420allday was in the news 2 days ago he just got stabbed with a sharpened toilet brush over a 900 pound drug debt

  • @kamsismith
    @kamsismith Před 15 dny +452

    Thank you for acknowledging Ian Watkins. So many people outside of the UK don't know about the horrific crimes that this thing committed against children. Sadly, rock stars who are genuinely kind and all-around good people like Chester Bennington and Kurt Cobain are dead and people like Ian are still alive or on the verge of dying and committing horrendous crimes.

    • @jadepixie2719
      @jadepixie2719 Před 15 dny +32

      Actually lots of people all over the world knew about Ian Watkins’s crimes.

    • @user-th8tp4tl6z
      @user-th8tp4tl6z Před 15 dny +2

      Those so called good guys all killed thrmselves. If they were so great even to a child toucher… they didn’t value themselves as much as they should. So in a way Ian is a better man than both of them

    • @docthomas8717
      @docthomas8717 Před 15 dny +12

      Holy fuck? Against children? The fuck did he do?

    • @NinjaMaiku
      @NinjaMaiku Před 15 dny

      ​@@docthomas8717 honestly, it's better if you Google it as writing what he did on here will likely get a ban on YT for breaking ToS

    • @scottbakanumba1heathen313
      @scottbakanumba1heathen313 Před 15 dny +18

      And don't confuse with Ian "H" Watkins from the group Steps.

  • @Dupontman627
    @Dupontman627 Před 15 dny +976

    Ian Watkins ruined Lost Prophets

    • @andrewrl
      @andrewrl Před 15 dny +69

      @Dupontman627 agreed as cant listen to them anymore because of that

    • @slackerofhell
      @slackerofhell Před 15 dny +69

      They were a fantastic band. Cuts me up because they were one of my fave bands at the time. Haven't listened to them ever since I found out.

    • @Bfratman
      @Bfratman Před 15 dny +80

      I heard recently he got stabbed in prison

    • @docthomas8717
      @docthomas8717 Před 15 dny

      What the fuck did he do?😂😂😂 Why has none of y'all and even the presenter in the video not mentioned this depravity. Is it a crime that must be mentioned like lord Voldemort's name 😂😂😂

    • @juanjosealmanzar6330
      @juanjosealmanzar6330 Před 15 dny +38

      ​@@Bfratman good

  • @tonyhall3365
    @tonyhall3365 Před 15 dny +157

    29 years isn't long enough for Watkins

    • @susanlansdell863
      @susanlansdell863 Před 14 dny +11

      He should never see the light of day again.

    • @adamluther5836
      @adamluther5836 Před 13 dny +16

      In fairness, a number of other inmates have tried their best to make his sentence as short as possible 🤷

    • @Miri92123
      @Miri92123 Před 11 dny +1

      agreed

    • @wafflebrothel7712
      @wafflebrothel7712 Před 11 dny +2

      My dads killer was sentenced to 30 years. That was a bit less effed up situation

    • @ConwayFitty
      @ConwayFitty Před 7 hodinami

      He got another six for hiding a phone up his ass and he got stabbed last year

  • @taracarroll4218
    @taracarroll4218 Před 15 dny +129

    Many things make me angry and sick about Ian Watkins' case. But what makes the situation worse is that his ex girlfriend spent FOUR years trying to bring attention of this to nearly every police department in the UK and was ignored. Even getting responses that she was just a bitter and jealous ex. She even got Watkins to send her disgusting content so she could get evidence to show she wasn't lying.
    Watkins only got busted in the end because of drug possession. You would think his ex got an apology, but you'd be dead wrong. In fact, police tried to charge her with possession of content with the snapshots and images she had to use as evidence against Watkins. Thankfully the charges were dropped.

  • @ainanomena9276
    @ainanomena9276 Před 14 dny +60

    "...While the charges are way too awful to relay here..."
    And that is still an understatement regarding the things Ian Watkins did.

  • @ztmusic2789
    @ztmusic2789 Před 15 dny +24

    #10: Ivan Moody (Five Finger Death Punch)
    #9: Jonny Craig (Dance Gavin Dance, Emarosa, Slaves, Isles & Glaciers, etc.)
    #8: Gaahl (Gorgoroth)
    #7: Jon Nödtveidt (Dissection)
    #6: Jacob Hoggard (Hadley)
    #5: Faust (Emperor)
    #4: John Phillips (The Mamas & the Papas)
    #3: Varg Vikernes (Mayhem)
    #2: Tim Lambesis (As I Lay Dying)
    #1: Ian Watkins (Lostprophets)

  • @paulrhyslloyd1
    @paulrhyslloyd1 Před 15 dny +71

    About a year ago my dad was sorting through some of my brothers old band shirts to sell, he’d ask me about the different bands before selling them and when he found a Lost Prophets shirt he decided that no one would ever want to wear one of those again.

    • @brandoncraig8171
      @brandoncraig8171 Před 15 dny +20

      lost prophets? more like lost profits

    • @carlosrodgers2474
      @carlosrodgers2474 Před 15 dny

      More like Found Pedo.

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl Před 13 dny

      @@brandoncraig8171 I used to think that really was their name. I heard it before I saw it spelled

    • @chrisbuttonshaw2088
      @chrisbuttonshaw2088 Před 10 dny +1

      ah damn it..... well guess those CDs are leaving my collection {I've not paid attention to music industry for years so whoops}

    • @fackwhy
      @fackwhy Před dnem

      And its so sad. Yea vocalist was a fcking **** but their album Start Something is a fcking masterpiece.

  • @MrWii000
    @MrWii000 Před 15 dny +163

    Honestly, none of these picks are more heinous than Ian Watkins.

    • @InkAndPoet
      @InkAndPoet Před 15 dny +9

      I don't know, Faust and Varg might have him beat.

    • @loganmclarry
      @loganmclarry Před 15 dny

      @@InkAndPoet Nah, Watkins is the number one POS on this list. Not saying that what Faust and Varg did was "right", but there is nothing more depraved than SA'ing a baby.

    • @MrWii000
      @MrWii000 Před 15 dny +13

      @@InkAndPoetDo you even know what Ian did?

    • @InkAndPoet
      @InkAndPoet Před 15 dny

      @@MrWii000 yes, and I believe nothing tops m*rder, not even baby lovers

    • @stephenandrew4186
      @stephenandrew4186 Před 15 dny +1

      ​@InkAndPoet they really don't. If you knew what Watkins did, you wouldn't even say that.

  • @AnsonBeeker
    @AnsonBeeker Před 15 dny +68

    "the band hit a major inpass when their singer was arrested for murder." 🤣

  • @calebcottrell7748
    @calebcottrell7748 Před 15 dny +97

    You left out Dahvie Vanity from Blood On The Dance Floor.

  • @overlooker9455
    @overlooker9455 Před 14 dny +29

    I love that right in the middle of the black metal parade they have the Mamas and Papas pop up.

  • @j189512
    @j189512 Před 15 dny +49

    Lostprophets remaining members worked out a deal with their record label that makes it so ian doesnt get any royalties from their music

    • @wolfiethefurrygamer1908
      @wolfiethefurrygamer1908 Před 14 dny +13

      That's good, they shouldn't have their careers ruined because of him

    • @jamesonweimann4720
      @jamesonweimann4720 Před 13 dny +4

      Or letting him profit after what he did was finally let out and accepted

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl Před 13 dny +19

      He lost profits

    • @ricalde514
      @ricalde514 Před 12 dny +2

      @@ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 😆😆😆😆

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl Před 12 dny +1

      @@ricalde514 I heard the name before I ever saw it spelled, so I really did used to think that was their name. As a kid, I didn't know the word "Prophets" I only knew the word "Profits."

  • @abradyv
    @abradyv Před 14 dny +124

    7:32 “shared an inappropriate relationship” isn’t what I would call a father sexually abusing his daughter. Relationship implies consent.

    • @douchymcdouche169
      @douchymcdouche169 Před 13 dny +1

      She wanted it.

    • @SakuraMushroom
      @SakuraMushroom Před 13 dny +22

      ​@@douchymcdouche169 aww cute little baby trying to be edgy

    • @douchymcdouche169
      @douchymcdouche169 Před 12 dny +1

      @@SakuraMushroom aww cute little zoomer not understanding the concept of dark humor.

    • @kimberlythermond7993
      @kimberlythermond7993 Před 11 dny +16

      ​@@douchymcdouche169 Okay, little edge lord. 🙄

    • @vanapirarayne738
      @vanapirarayne738 Před 8 dny

      That's how they avoid the cursed yellow dollar sign. If you can't figure that out maybe CZcams isn't the place for you. Also her claims have never been proven and no one in her family believes her. There has to be a reason. Her own sister said it was false. Why is that? Maybe it is false. Maybe it is true. But because she waited until the man was dead to come out with anything makes you wonder. If she would have said something sooner it could have been proven, but as it stands. Take the story with a hefty helping of salt, because there is no way of proving it.

  • @GonzoHenson
    @GonzoHenson Před 15 dny +35

    McKenzie Phillips: The thing with abusers is that they often abuse in secret and they don't always abuse everyone. Some abusers use the non-victims to build up their reputation in order to facilitate the abuse and to create deniability for the abuse. Also, some abusers simply have a 'taste' for who they want to abuse and who they want to leave alone. It further isolates and traumatizes the victim to have their family say, "You must be lying because nothing happened to me."
    BTW, check into author Alice Munro. Authors who have their reputations re-evaluated?

    • @nicholeponiewaz5591
      @nicholeponiewaz5591 Před 13 dny +1

      What happened to McKenzie was so terrible. It explains so much to her substance abuse. Her story broke my heart.

  • @christophercorell8632
    @christophercorell8632 Před 15 dny +28

    Hard to say five finger were ruined since they still went platinum multiple times after the incident

    • @blickedxb
      @blickedxb Před 13 dny +1

      These are the same type of people that would call a guy like phil labonte a failed musician.

    • @rawkguy4896
      @rawkguy4896 Před 12 dny +9

      I'm surprised Five Finger Death Punch is on here. Ivan seems like a massive tool and definitely was a shitbag but the rest of the list is literal murderers and rapists.

    • @theimmortalrain867
      @theimmortalrain867 Před 12 dny +5

      @@rawkguy4896It sounds like Ivan is also trying to get better. If he truly is, good for him!

    • @wildcats3732
      @wildcats3732 Před 10 dny +2

      ivan also came out and publicly apologized for previous behaviors and talks up sobriety and caring for your fellow man now

  • @jasonbrander4595
    @jasonbrander4595 Před 15 dny +120

    Watkins recently got brutally stabbed in prison cause he owed a gang money. He did survive.(News source brought to you by rock feed)

    • @MrWii000
      @MrWii000 Před 15 dny +7

      Honestly, none of these picks are more heinous than Ian Watkins.

    • @thehandsomewolf599
      @thehandsomewolf599 Před 15 dny +37

      Is the shiv okay

    • @rebeccamcdermott9259
      @rebeccamcdermott9259 Před 15 dny +10

      Yeah, unfortunately. He obviously got stabbed in the wrong place.

    • @jasonbrander4595
      @jasonbrander4595 Před 15 dny +5

      It all comes down to a "dead man can't pay you back"

    • @ALL_that_ENDS
      @ALL_that_ENDS Před 15 dny +1

      Ooh shit, I actually just came from there.. Nice

  • @themike7d
    @themike7d Před 14 dny +29

    I was front row at that show in Worcester, MA. The night my love for Five Finger Death Punch officially died. Shout-out to Shinedown that night for playing an AMAZING show.

    • @jenlu6570
      @jenlu6570 Před 9 dny +1

      I saw them in Phoenix, AZ and Shinedown carried the show.

  • @Phoenix-nl2ut
    @Phoenix-nl2ut Před 15 dny +42

    2 years for hiring a hit man to kill her ex wife. Smh.

    • @paulie9483
      @paulie9483 Před 15 dny +10

      And the Scandinavian guys actually committing murder and getting out in less 10 years, in two separate stories.

    • @docthomas8717
      @docthomas8717 Před 15 dny +1

      What's funny is that the hitman was a cop undercover 😂😂

    • @braddorcas9363
      @braddorcas9363 Před 13 dny +2

      because no hit man was actually hired, and no one was hurt. And it was that short as he was paroled for clearly not being a further risk, his sentence was longer at 6 years. Which lines up with attempted direct murder would be that starts as low as 5 years in the US.

    • @niloc446
      @niloc446 Před 12 dny +4

      More disappointing is how easy it was for him to continue with his career afterward because there was money to be made.

    • @ophelius522
      @ophelius522 Před 12 dny +2

      Judge must've known she was a b too😂

  • @BumpyBaluga
    @BumpyBaluga Před 15 dny +16

    Watkins should be burried under the jail..

  • @ZeroSOFInfinity
    @ZeroSOFInfinity Před 15 dny +53

    *checks on Google to see what Ian Watkins did to get 29 years*
    .... what? He deserves MORE than that!

    • @thedarkside826
      @thedarkside826 Před 14 dny +6

      If you can stomach it you should read the court documents. Shit is beyond vile.

    • @gzalensk
      @gzalensk Před 13 dny +4

      ​@@thedarkside826 shouldn't have done that holy fuck. probably the worst thing I've read in my entire fucking life.

    • @Miri92123
      @Miri92123 Před 11 dny

      did the same

    • @Miri92123
      @Miri92123 Před 11 dny

      @@thedarkside826 I probably can but I know I will be a lot more mad and upset than sick. He was messed up.

    • @thedarkside826
      @thedarkside826 Před 11 dny

      @@Miri92123 You'd feel a new type of anger

  • @moses112890
    @moses112890 Před 15 dny +23

    I have always said that if Ian was not the front man of LP then it would have been easier to carry on. But when the voice of the band is the identity of those songs there is no way to recover.

    • @amatingmind7258
      @amatingmind7258 Před 13 dny +1

      John Mellencamp's former keyboardist Eric Rosser was convicted of those types of crimes. He was even of the FBI's most wanted list alongside Osama Bin Laden for a bit. It doesn't seem to have tarnished Mellencamp's music, even though the guy played on some of his biggest hits, like "Jack and Diane." People don't pay attention to the keyboard player.

  • @RocketRoketto
    @RocketRoketto Před 14 dny +15

    I read the entire court report for Ian Watkins and when I tell you, it made me reconsider having kids, I'm not joking

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl Před 13 dny +6

      Well, he's not going to do anything to them now. Besides, those mothers willingly gave their kids to him so he could do that (apparently they were so in love with him, they couldn't see that was a horrible thing to do) and the mothers got locked away for 15 years. As long as you don't do that, you don't have to worry about him.

  • @Roasty420
    @Roasty420 Před 15 dny +195

    Doesn’t surprise me that three black metal bands appeared on this list.
    As a metalhead I still listen to them, but let’s keep our religious beliefs to a non-extremist point.

    • @BackupPlans1
      @BackupPlans1 Před 15 dny +14

      Four: Gorgoroth, Dissection, Emporer, and Mayhem are all black metal

    • @Foxiz
      @Foxiz Před 15 dny

      It's not the extremism concerning "religious beliefs" that's f*cked up - it's the xenophobic ultra right extremism...

    • @NicoDoesLP
      @NicoDoesLP Před 15 dny +7

      I can't stand Burzum but I'll throw on Emperor often and occasionally Mayhem. I just find Burzum unlistenable

    • @slowcrusxxh
      @slowcrusxxh Před 14 dny

      whats up with black metal band people killing queer people? no big difference from church people sadge

    • @lordhumungus1386
      @lordhumungus1386 Před 14 dny +8

      @@NicoDoesLP 'cause burzum is atmospheric/ambiental black metal and emperor/mayhem are just black metal..big difference.

  • @MrLePov
    @MrLePov Před 12 dny +9

    Even listening to Lostprophets feels like a crime, that's how bad his crimes were 😬

  • @CybrAshley
    @CybrAshley Před 8 dny +4

    Finally someone has the balls to add Lost prophets to a list like this!
    And of course, Norwegians will be all over this... I use to love black metal, and their influence and evolution, musically, is incredible.

  • @RyanMcKennaGosling
    @RyanMcKennaGosling Před 15 dny +22

    As a Canadian, I stopped listening to Hedley after what happened to the lead singer back in 2018.

    • @jenmck23
      @jenmck23 Před 14 dny +1

      That's your choice. I can understand your stance and respect your decision and right to have that decision. But I still love Hedley and still listen to their music. I feel like one person should not be punished for the criminal actions of others.

    • @jennifergreen6510
      @jennifergreen6510 Před 14 dny +6

      ​@@jenmck23Multiple band members were accused of doing horrendous things. The whole damn band is problematic. Stop defending them.

    • @jenmck23
      @jenmck23 Před 14 dny +1

      @@jennifergreen6510 I don't recall hearing of other criminal accusations. Unfortunately enabling and before aware of questionable things the front man was doing is not in itself criminal. I'm not saying they are great guys but in my opinion their is a difference between rock and roll drugs and lots of sex versus criminal actions with underage fans. The only accusations I could find in a quick Google search as a refresher were pointing to "rock and roll behaviour". Not illegal acts by other band members but certainly not respectable ones. I also am more defending the fact that their music can still be good without liking the individual themselves. But my understanding was Jacob was the problem and not other band members who as gross as it is, turned a blind eye and enabled him which isn't necessarily illegal or criminal. But I feel like the other members shouldn't be held to the same wronged name if they are talented individuals who just happened to be in the band with a creep and problematic front man. We are each entitled to our own opinions. I also may be on the controversial side of things with separating the music from their everyday lives. Like not liking an actor but loving their character in a movie or TV show. Appreciating the talent and skill without condoning the actions of the individual.

    • @cyn1clcynide
      @cyn1clcynide Před 12 dny

      ​@@jenmck23 I think unless a person themselves is a victim of a crime that has been perpetuated by an artist, then it becomes less ambiguous on whether or not to differentiate the art from the artist

  • @AspireAndInspire
    @AspireAndInspire Před 15 dny +59

    It should be noted that while Tim DID return to As I Lay Dying, 3 of the 4 other members all left within the next two years, so it's not as if everything was just fine and dandy.

    • @Keepitsavage21
      @Keepitsavage21 Před 15 dny +7

      He also already went through 3 different love interests that left him too

    • @petermain6791
      @petermain6791 Před 13 dny +1

      But they didn't all leave because of Tim. Nick more or less left because of him, but that had more to do with what the band was and wasn't doing in terms of moving forward. Jordan, well we may never know, all we know is that he only corresponds through his lawyer and sought a monetary payout. Josh left to pursue new musical endeavors, ie. he joined Spiritbox, which is not different than Eloy Casagrande leaving Sepultura to join Slipknot.

  • @Kiraiko44
    @Kiraiko44 Před 13 dny +5

    What's crazy is how many of these people got slaps on the wrist for murder or attempted murder. Watkins should have gotten life.

  • @danwindler9400
    @danwindler9400 Před 15 dny +144

    You forgot Anti-Flag who lead singer is accused of multiple counts of rape on several women.

    • @jcauley9
      @jcauley9 Před 15 dny +13

      I think because these are cold cut closed concluded cases, and Justin Sane is just on the run instead of on trial. Like everything here has been proven, and nothing alleged.

    • @ronjames4151
      @ronjames4151 Před 15 dny +2

      Is it several women? I only heard about the one. I am not defending him I think his actions after it was revealed show he is guilty

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 Před 14 dny +1

      ​@@ronjames4151The fact he ran instead of faced trial and fought it doesn't help his case.

    • @jcauley9
      @jcauley9 Před 14 dny +1

      @@ronjames4151 more women came forward after the 1st one.

    • @wendygreene
      @wendygreene Před 14 dny +2

      I came here to say this! I saw Anti-Flag open for Flogging Molly a couple of months before the news broke. I'd heard of them, but never heard their music before (I didn't end up liking it).
      The lead singer was pretty much preaching about loving everybody, caring for the Earth, etc. between songs. I agree with these sentiments, but it felt forced coming from him for some reason. Like he was trying too hard?
      Needless to say, I was surprised by the news when it came out.
      Also...the fact that the band broke up IMMEDIATELY after the news came out leads me to believe that not only do they believe that he did those things, but they KNEW he was doing them.

  • @Sc3n3F3rgy
    @Sc3n3F3rgy Před 15 dny +18

    You should have included Dahvie Vanity from Blood on the Dance Floor

    • @DioDiablo702
      @DioDiablo702 Před 11 dny

      That's a list of its own. Shit was so bad their music got wiped!

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Před 15 dny +42

    "Eh, no one is Perfect." - Cell

  • @joels5150
    @joels5150 Před 13 dny +5

    How have multiple people on this list committed actual murder and gotten out of prison in less than a decade?

  • @ffpunk777
    @ffpunk777 Před 15 dny +20

    Lost prophets was such a letdown and as I lay dying took me a while to listen to them again

  • @tateloop1015
    @tateloop1015 Před 15 dny +224

    People seem to forget that Axl Rose has a long history of engaging in abusive behavior, and being an all around nuisance to the point that the rest of the band got tired of him and left for a period to form Velvet Revolver

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent Před 15 dny +12

      the other side of that story is Axl Rose getting pissed off at Slash because Slash kept up his relationship with pedophile Michael Jackson, knowing that Axi was a victim of child sex abuse who wasn't happy with that.

    • @etripss
      @etripss Před 15 dny +5

      @@perfectallycromulent wft xD

    • @RiversEagle_
      @RiversEagle_ Před 15 dny +13

      @@etripssHe’s not wrong. Axl Rose has been on record that he was realized pissed off by that because he was abused as a child and he believed the allegations made against Michael were real.

    • @aindatenhoconta
      @aindatenhoconta Před 14 dny +3

      @@RiversEagle_ it's also on record that Slash was confronted by Axl's racist inputs and didn't comment on it

    • @MateusHonrado
      @MateusHonrado Před 14 dny

      ​​@@perfectallycromulent @RiversEagle_ Despite the fact that said allegations against MJ went public months after "Give In to Me" was released.

  • @ChrisNeufeldMusic
    @ChrisNeufeldMusic Před 15 dny +82

    Can’t even listen to Lostprophets anymore after all the disgusting stuff Ian Watkins did. 😞

    • @MrWii000
      @MrWii000 Před 15 dny +11

      Honestly, none of these picks are more heinous than Ian Watkins.

    • @donaldroman2717
      @donaldroman2717 Před 15 dny +1

      Never listened to them probably never will but you know there's a thing called the ability to separate fiction from reality but I guess only a select few people have that ability and brain power these days sad

    • @mattpatt199
      @mattpatt199 Před 15 dny

      Settle down there champ​@@donaldroman2717

    • @Allisele
      @Allisele Před 15 dny +24

      @@donaldroman2717 Yeah...heinous crimes against children isn't worth trying to separate the art from the artist, especially at this level of depravity. I loved their music in my teens and early 20s, but hearing even bits of it now reminds me of the details that came out. I think it's a lot less about brain power and a lot more about each person having that personal limit of what they're willing to tolerate. That sort of abuse is very much a limit for me and a lot of other folks.

    • @Rodj71
      @Rodj71 Před 15 dny +3

      Not really my cup of tea, but I did like a few of their songs. But I have not listened to them since the news broke, and never will again.

  • @kassieyoung4289
    @kassieyoung4289 Před 15 dny +21

    As a big Jonny Craig fan, it’s so sad to see someone with so much talent be such a waste of a person. 😢 Incredibly talented vocalist, but really bad personality and personal choices 🙃

    • @iancolthart6676
      @iancolthart6676 Před 14 dny

      That's basically how I feel about ronnie radke

    • @dominicsavankham0709
      @dominicsavankham0709 Před 14 dny

      I think he got clean again now and he's has another music group/act. DGD said in a recent interview they wouldn't mind having Jonny as a feature on their next record

    • @drumaticpageofmusic4148
      @drumaticpageofmusic4148 Před 13 dny +1

      @@iancolthart6676eh he’s turned his life around quite a bit

    • @RedRogue026
      @RedRogue026 Před 13 dny

      ​@@dominicsavankham0709 yes, he has a new project called Old Flame which is him coming back to his rock music roots basically

  • @kylefarr3655
    @kylefarr3655 Před 14 dny +7

    Im so happy Ivan Moody fully redeemed himself, and is clean and sober now.

  • @burgundybabyy
    @burgundybabyy Před 13 dny +19

    I met Ian Watkins and the band at Ozzfest 2002. The main thing I remember is how he mocked me when I laughed at some joke one of the guys told. I remember feeling really uncomfortable around him but not being able to articulate why. I was 19 at the time.

  • @donovandelaney3171
    @donovandelaney3171 Před 10 dny +4

    These people give Goth a bad name. I'm disappointed and offended.

  • @l33fox
    @l33fox Před 15 dny +14

    I knew Ian Watkins would be No1. The blokes pure evil! Lost Prophets were a great band. They should have got in a new singer.

    • @fuckgoogle8661
      @fuckgoogle8661 Před 15 dny

      Really? I always thought lost prophets were pure sh!t when they were promoting their first album. As far as I can tell I was 100% right.

  • @bobbrock4221
    @bobbrock4221 Před 14 dny +7

    So that guy tried to hire someone to murder his wife and only served two years in prison? People serve more time than that for a second DUI

    • @michaelcarst6958
      @michaelcarst6958 Před 6 hodinami

      Not to condone his actions, but if you read the case and see the details and nuances, it is more explainable.

  • @kenterminateddq5311
    @kenterminateddq5311 Před 15 dny +23

    7:27 I hope McKenzie McPhillips is doing great after dealing with her father and her long battles with drug use. 😢

    • @Mystress1980
      @Mystress1980 Před 15 dny +2

      Same. I saw her on Sober House and she actually seemed like a pretty cool lady. I hope she's found her peace. She shared that house with some people who are no longer here.

    • @kenterminateddq5311
      @kenterminateddq5311 Před 15 dny +2

      @@Mystress1980 McKenzie is still alive, right?
      BTW, RIP to the lead singer of Crazy Town.

  • @SirsasthNigam.
    @SirsasthNigam. Před 13 dny +4

    the fact that Watkins' charges can't even be stated by Watchmojo

    • @ricalde514
      @ricalde514 Před 12 dny

      They should have mentioned what he was charged with IMO

  • @NottyGurlStyle
    @NottyGurlStyle Před 13 dny +6

    I use to wonder why i couldn’t find Lost Prophets album on Spotify…I had the cd and loved their music back in the day…Until I watched a documentary on the lead singer..I was shocked and disgusted on the sick he is…I threw the cd in the trash…

    • @NightmareSnake
      @NightmareSnake Před 11 dny

      I recently discovered that the albums are back on there.
      Which is info you can do whatever you want with

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Před 15 dny +78

    "Every party needs a pooper." - Super Kami Guru

  • @imsomewhatcertain1024
    @imsomewhatcertain1024 Před 13 dny +4

    Guns and Roses, one of the most iconic hard rock bands of all time, is a band some have come to hate because of their frontman, Axl Rose.
    Axl and Slash (lead guitarist) allegedly had sex with a 15 year old girl back in 1985; which lead to statutory rape charges.
    In 1992, Axl was arrested for his involvement in the Riverport Riot. He then recieved a lawsuit from an audience member who was attacked during the ordeal.
    Axl committed numerous crimes, and was hit with numerous lawsuits throughout his career. These were just his two most infamous misdeeds.

  • @andrewpappas9311
    @andrewpappas9311 Před 15 dny +7

    It honestly does not surprise me that Ian Watkins was on here, like what he did was undeniably fucked up and has no redemption whatsoever

  • @SombraCheeks
    @SombraCheeks Před 15 dny +37

    What is with Scandanavia and releasing murderers/attempted murders in like 5 years? Like that is a fair trade not even a punishment

    • @paulie9483
      @paulie9483 Před 15 dny +9

      This is exactly what I thought. Obvious hate crimes on top of it.

    • @mattpatt199
      @mattpatt199 Před 15 dny

      I think their court system etc is based a lot around rehab of criminals and letting them back into society. They dont really believe in locking people up for life etc. Bt i could be wrong. Jst going by what i have seen in the past

    • @masonwinters267
      @masonwinters267 Před 15 dny +3

      Gotta love Europe and their easy on criminals sentencing

    • @gatling216
      @gatling216 Před 14 dny +21

      In general, Scandinavia puts more emphasis on rehabilitation than they do retribution. There's some logic to the idea. The American prison system and its lengthy sentences has an insanely high recidivism rate, thanks in no small part to the way ex-cons are treated when they eventually get out. Without some sort of external support network, a lot of them end up reoffending out of desperation. That said, the Scandinavian model tends to fall apart on the more extreme end of the spectrum. While they're pretty good about setting up ex-cons for success upon release, it's hard to argue that the punishment fits the crime when someone serves only a decade for murder and a string of arsons, especially if they clearly hold extremist views.

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 Před 14 dny +6

      ​@@gatling216Capital punishment has a 100% rate of prisoners not reoffending.

  • @slackerofhell
    @slackerofhell Před 15 dny +15

    Lost Prophets is number one for me. I'm also expecting Hedley.

    • @MrWii000
      @MrWii000 Před 15 dny +5

      Honestly, none of these picks are more heinous than Ian Watkins.

    • @slackerofhell
      @slackerofhell Před 15 dny +5

      @@MrWii000 you're not wrong. That guy takes the cake for evil musicians.

  • @B4nanaPudding
    @B4nanaPudding Před 11 dny +2

    Lost prophets hurt, man.. cried so much while purging their music from my life

  • @Nadstarful
    @Nadstarful Před 10 dny +2

    It hurts me so much, lost prophets got me through some really dark times in my life, their music was so important to me. The day i found out about Ian Watkins I snapped every cd I had and threw out every piece of merch snd havent listened to them again. I just can't.

  • @briandoss9232
    @briandoss9232 Před 14 dny +6

    I was waiting for As I Lay Dying to show up!

  • @DNeed77
    @DNeed77 Před 15 dny +6

    I was downtown for new years hoping for a good concert, but went home when Hedley was the headliner and the closest to rock amongst the performers

  • @civilwildman
    @civilwildman Před 10 dny +2

    I'm surprised Jon Shaeffer of Iced Earth isn't on this list.

  • @rollingmetal949
    @rollingmetal949 Před 10 dny +2

    Nowadays Infernus is way more hated than Ghaal. Convicted of SA. Faust apparently was the first ally for Ghaal after his coming out. Weird how things change in 20-30 years

  • @evenflow5491
    @evenflow5491 Před 15 dny +6

    A Town Called Hypocrisy’s music video is deeply disturbing and hugely ironic in retrospect

  • @valmore2477
    @valmore2477 Před 13 dny +4

    Had to delete all my Lostprophets mp3s. Prison was too good for Ian Watkins.

  • @drewbustank
    @drewbustank Před 11 dny +2

    Honorable mention: Tyler Carter, formerly of Issues and Woe, Is Me. Utterly disgraceful. They could have taken over the entire heavy music scene after their album Beautiful Oblivion came out.

  • @Miri92123
    @Miri92123 Před 11 dny +2

    I didn't know what Ian did and decided to look into it. That man is a nightmare, he belongs in prison and deserves a lot longer sentence.

  • @MrDonCoyote
    @MrDonCoyote Před 15 dny +30

    3 Norwegian entries. That's crazy.

    • @Erik-bd6ll
      @Erik-bd6ll Před 15 dny +2

      Surprised there’s not more💀

    • @MrDonCoyote
      @MrDonCoyote Před 15 dny +4

      @@Erik-bd6ll Coming soon to WatchMojo. Top 10 Norway's biggest disappointments.

    • @Erik-bd6ll
      @Erik-bd6ll Před 15 dny +2

      @@MrDonCoyote lmaooooooo. I seriously hate black metal with a burning passion

    • @Keepitsavage21
      @Keepitsavage21 Před 15 dny

      @@Erik-bd6lleven belphegor and immortals?

    • @Erik-bd6ll
      @Erik-bd6ll Před 14 dny

      @@Keepitsavage21 yes

  • @what_equals_42
    @what_equals_42 Před 13 dny +5

    I googled Ian Watkins. If you're thinking about googling him, don't. It's even worse than I expected. 😨

    • @mwallacejam
      @mwallacejam Před 13 dny

      I am deeply ashamed to say that one of his songs was my first ever download back in the early 2000s.

    • @amymifsud7864
      @amymifsud7864 Před 13 dny

      I did, and I was SHOCKED to say the least. FLABBERGASTED! He RAPPED a FREAKING. BABY!!!!! 😱

  • @ThatBlindGuy247
    @ThatBlindGuy247 Před 14 dny +4

    That might be the most butchered version of Euronymous's name i've heard 😂

  • @owenjolley351
    @owenjolley351 Před 15 dny +13

    *There is actually another musician who is also called Ian Watkins but this one is a member of the band Steps and is better known as H.*

    • @Tarpull
      @Tarpull Před 15 dny +6

      Wow what an unlucky guy!

    • @WolfeStirfry
      @WolfeStirfry Před 13 dny

      Poor guy was misidentified and subsequently received lots of hate mail on twitter, when news of the lostprophets ian watkins broke.

    • @CaraHTheRealCie
      @CaraHTheRealCie Před 13 dny

      I think I'd change my name.

    • @richardgott4027
      @richardgott4027 Před 11 dny +2

      @@CaraHTheRealCie If I remember rightly, when it all came out what that psycho did, H had to publicly say he wasn't the Ian Watkins involved in it all, because he was catching some flack for it.

    • @iliketrains3495
      @iliketrains3495 Před 9 dny

      Obligatory mention to K**t And The Gang's "The Wrong Ian Watkins"

  • @itgrrrlofsfbay
    @itgrrrlofsfbay Před 15 dny +9

    I've torn up the pic of me w/ ian watkins tht was back in 2006 & tossed it in the 🗑 because of this

  • @Matt-yj1lz
    @Matt-yj1lz Před 15 dny +10

    One of the things about Tim of as I lay dying that they didn't mention here is as I lay dying is a Christian band. Which made it more shocking that he'd do something like that.

    • @waitwhat1029
      @waitwhat1029 Před 13 dny

      How so? Christians aren't exempt from heinous crimes. They aren't even less likely to commit them. Religion just seems to be an accessory for many of them.

    • @anarchy030
      @anarchy030 Před 13 dny +3

      I love that he tried to blame his decision on steroids!!😂😂

    • @braddorcas9363
      @braddorcas9363 Před 13 dny +4

      They never really were tbh, Tim detailed it himself post arrest. Saying they kept the act going because they said they weren't really saying anything that was inherently wrong in their music. They just weren't the true believers people thought them to be. And justified it being ok because a number of the other christian acts they toured with acted the same way as they did. But they eventually stopped doing so all together.

    • @hollyshouse928
      @hollyshouse928 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@anarchy030oh gosh I forgot about all of that

  • @bansheeara
    @bansheeara Před 11 dny +1

    I think something to be mentioned about Mayhem is that no one liked Euronymous. When their member Dead committed suicide, Euronymous went to a store bought a disposable camera and took a photo of it before calling Necrobutcher and said 'Dead has done something really cool! He killed himself'. He literally gave away pieces of Dead's skull afterwards and was the one to encourage Dead to kill himself. Even Necrobutcher had plans to kill Euronymous, he was just beaten to it.

  • @lucy-louthebeagle4511
    @lucy-louthebeagle4511 Před 14 dny

    "This is no laughing matter"
    As I sit here laughing about the guy who talked to an undercover cop. "I love ot when these evil people get got" 😂

  • @tsantos1
    @tsantos1 Před 15 dny +4

    I’m glad none of the bands I like are on this list

  • @DC1983
    @DC1983 Před 12 dny +4

    I used to feel bad for the other Lost Prophet members. Now I'm not so sure. They were around this scum every single day. They had no clue that he was a monster? No suspicions? 🤔🤔🤔

  • @milky1234123
    @milky1234123 Před 14 dny +1

    You got my like by even including the mayhem. when that happened shit hurt everyone in the scene at the time as hard as dead death. i still listen to them and have seen them live quite a bit

  • @senseizj9951
    @senseizj9951 Před 9 dny +2

    To say Ian Watkins is a deplorable monster is an understatement. I’ve always felt bad for his former bandmates, whose 15 years of hard work were tainted by the actions of 1 bad egg. If anyone wants to check out his former bandmates’ projects, Lee Gaze and Stuart Richardson are in No Devotion with Geoff Rickly of Thursday, and Luke Johnson is in Lowlives. All the non-criminal members of LP were originally in No Devotion, but Luke broke off for a couple years before forming his new group, and the others have seemingly left the music industry
    Check out and support No Devotion and Lowlives!

  • @snarkxmaiden
    @snarkxmaiden Před 13 dny +3

    You left out the part where Mayhem/Varg went on to use a photograph of their bandmate Pelle's unalived body on the cover of one of their bootleg albums.

  • @theTOASTYsupreme
    @theTOASTYsupreme Před 13 dny +7

    Another thing about Tim Labesis was that he got his Masters degree in social work, became a certified addictions treatment counselor in prison (and after release), and actually came out a better person and made amends with each band member. He didn't just rejoin. He asked their permission, and they unanimously agreed to let him back in. That's how a person changes for the better

  • @jaymattlee7294
    @jaymattlee7294 Před 15 dny +1

    Mac Saturn may be too recent or unknown, but its an absolute tragedy for a band that was about to break through. Needed to be on the list

  • @stuartmaddox6192
    @stuartmaddox6192 Před 14 dny +2

    After the news broke about Ian Watkins it gave a whole new perspective to the video for Town Called Hypocrisy

  • @samuelallen2831
    @samuelallen2831 Před 15 dny +7

    I almost thought you were gonna miss Ian Watkins. Lol good lord what a wacko he turned out to be

  • @maxpayne7312
    @maxpayne7312 Před 15 dny +15

    I’ve never heard of these bands (except for the mamas and the papas)
    The title should’ve been called 9 metal bands ruined by one disgraced member

  • @OlivierVinet98
    @OlivierVinet98 Před 10 dny +1

    Watkins did some horrible things but what will always piss me off is the fact that 6 peoples contact the south wales police for 3 years (including someone form the US and Australia) and they did nothing. They finally arrest him three time for drugs and got bail out all those time until the police look at his computer for another things related to drugs and find everything. Took them almost 5 years until they arrest him for the atrocity of what he did.

  • @oliviajadepennell4703
    @oliviajadepennell4703 Před 13 dny +3

    Ive jist read the whole court proceeding about Watkins.. oh my fucking goodness, extremely disturbing, should be locked up for ever

  • @TwistedDonners
    @TwistedDonners Před 15 dny +10

    Vince Neil is a big omission from this list especially after he killed someone because of drink driving.

  • @miew8204
    @miew8204 Před 14 dny +4

    The thing with Ghaal assaulting people is really a two sided coin.
    In both cases court determent that Ghaal acted (more or less) in self defense.
    Seeing he lived his whole life in a small Norwegian comunity. He was the odd ball for most of that time.
    Yes this man has some issues and some demons to battle. But imagine on top of that, you constanly get bullied.
    In both cases ppl threatent Ghaal with violance first. He even did get beat up in the past.
    In those two cases that went to court, he told himself no-more, and made sure they would not even think about starting with/against him again.
    It was self defense, he just outragesously overdone it in both cases.
    And the law punished him for it accordingly.

  • @jonathannaughton8554
    @jonathannaughton8554 Před 13 dny +1

    I was in a band that had something like this happen. A band member was up to some really bad shit behind the scenes and all of that good will we built up went down the drain because of him.

  • @simonpetersen2392
    @simonpetersen2392 Před 14 dny

    Got tickets for As I Lay Dying for there concert in Copenhagen. Never been more excited for a concert.

  • @moo2k4
    @moo2k4 Před 14 dny +3

    #1 could only be Ian Watkins. I will never, ever listen to Lost Prophets again.

  • @fingmd
    @fingmd Před 15 dny +18

    I think everyone knew, who will be on #1.

  • @greatscottbatman7470
    @greatscottbatman7470 Před 13 dny +3

    Ian Watkins is a monster. Plain and simple

  • @BAL9292
    @BAL9292 Před 15 dny

    I always wondered what happened to Lostprophets. Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja immediately caught my attention and bought the album that had Rooftops on it. I was young back then so it makes sense why i never heard about his demise. High digress, the guitarist throwing his guitar around him in the Shinobi video is LEGENDARY still to this day!

  • @karlymillar1328
    @karlymillar1328 Před 15 dny +3

    As a Canadian who used to love Hedley, I hate that they turned out to be such scumbags, especially Jacob. Their music was such a big part of my life for such a long time. Now I feel guilty for listening to it, but sometimes I just need to get it out of my system.

    • @jenmck23
      @jenmck23 Před 14 dny +3

      I understand. I too still listen to Hedley. Their music is great. To me it's no different than an actor, you can dislike them and still enjoy a show or movie. It's controversial but I still listen to Michael Jackson as well.

  • @Slayde.Wilson
    @Slayde.Wilson Před 15 dny +49

    Heres a fun fact:
    Nobody gives AF if you're "First" or "Last"

    • @CandiceVidito
      @CandiceVidito Před 15 dny +3

      So true. Waste of time.

    • @markalexander3659
      @markalexander3659 Před 15 dny +5

      THIS! So sick of people commenting "First" on YT videos. Absolutely nobody gives a fuck, including the person who uploaded the video.

    • @thepunisherclub6442
      @thepunisherclub6442 Před 15 dny +4

      .......
      I agree

    • @Reaperguy67
      @Reaperguy67 Před 15 dny +1

      @@markalexander3659 exactly. They don't even get anything for it. You know what's sad , there is some one named black hat who gives pointless medals to those comments. He is also some one who bullies people and make false claims about others being someone else when they weren't. He doesn't have anything to prove it. Also I have seen him Bully people by making false claims about them being mentally handicapped or low IQ. That is uncalled for if you ask me .

    • @brandoncraig8171
      @brandoncraig8171 Před 15 dny +1

      that’s true
      except for the people who are first and last
      their the only ones who care
      personally it’s childish and petty to try to get attention in that way

  • @Meskuzze420
    @Meskuzze420 Před 14 dny

    Video suggested right after I listened to As I lay dying new song🤣🤘

  • @xeno3703
    @xeno3703 Před 12 dny +2

    Its a shame that black metal bands (often extremists and posers) give Satanism a bad wrap. I despise extremists and there should be no room for any of that in this world and especially in music.