Hyundai Stargazer First Impressions | AutoDeal Walkaround

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • Hyundai Philippines enters the MPV segment with the arrival of its fifth vehicle in its refreshed lineup. It checks many of the boxes for those looking for a versatile vehicle and is well-equipped. Find out what the all-new Hyundai Stargazer has to offer as we take you on a quick walk around the new MPV.
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  • @AutodealPh
    @AutodealPh  Před rokem +119

    Erratum - Hyundai Philippines clarifies: all 3 models will carry 7 seats.

    • @DILPimentel
      @DILPimentel Před rokem +2

      Thanks for this clarification. I was worried that hyundai missed the point of the mpv category by selling 5 seater variants.

    • @akosifossil20
      @akosifossil20 Před rokem

      Thanks for the clarification. I got an interest in it aside from Xpander.

    • @rndm3678
      @rndm3678 Před rokem

      Good to know. How about yung monitor nya sa harap hnd ba nakaharang?

    • @wayneestardo5052
      @wayneestardo5052 Před rokem +1

      @@rndm3678 I think he mentioned na it won't be an issue naman. Please check 9:50. 😃

    • @ArkiDeos
      @ArkiDeos Před rokem

      Nice videos as always mga Sir. But you forgot the most important thing to consider in my book when I buy a Car. Airbags and safety features. How is the ride? Matagtag ba or comparable sa ibang MPV. And can you elaborate more sa NVH. Masakit ba sa tainga yung echo sound? Thanks..

  • @therpras
    @therpras Před rokem +14

    I am the Hyundai Stargazer's owner, in Indonesia we have 6 seats variant as the highest variants, and from 3 month of using the car as the daily car, it was pretty impressive, compared to others MPV in the class.

  • @syazwanchawan8779
    @syazwanchawan8779 Před rokem +79

    I'm Malaysian. I like your videos because your biasness are the lowest compared to Malaysian & Indonesian reviewers ~

    • @Dimsumayamracer
      @Dimsumayamracer Před rokem +2

      Hyundai STARGAZER vs Perodua Alza Av 😌😌😌

    • @sputnikfreshie3601
      @sputnikfreshie3601 Před rokem +1

      I'm Antartican, I like your comment. He is the best in car reviews. Eventhough I can't drive much around here due to coldness.

    • @makoygaara
      @makoygaara Před rokem +2

      I'm Martian and I'll visit you Earthlings soon.

  • @MiggyMndza
    @MiggyMndza Před rokem +68

    This is why I love AD and Caco reviews(or the like), no BS at all. Pinpoints the things which needs to be pointed out like the huge bezel above the meter cluster, and doesn't exaggerate things at all. Didn't even bother saying the dashboard is futuristic, bc tbh it looks more dated than the former. Just the right amount of praises and adjectives used, this is one spectacular first impressions vid AD. 👌

  • @efrahaimrn
    @efrahaimrn Před rokem +23

    Pretty good! Powerful engine, cvt, and relatively cheap. Hyundai is a pretty good brand too! Beautiful car. I expect to see more of this vehicle on the roads. 💪

    • @dazzlingvidzhd9028
      @dazzlingvidzhd9028 Před rokem +6

      that stargazer used upgraded version of cvt engine. it uses IVT intelligence variable transmission.

  • @henryreyes687
    @henryreyes687 Před rokem +35

    Really good review! Right up there with CarWow, CarExpert and CarsGuide. Watching from Sydney, Australia. 🇦🇺

  • @norventuscano8485
    @norventuscano8485 Před rokem +5

    I've seen lots of stargazer review but this is the most comprehensive one. Thanks autodeal 👍

  • @linomarcial2566
    @linomarcial2566 Před rokem +23

    Wow! I can't believe it is under the 1 million mark. So futuristic.

    • @josiahnathancahigas9531
      @josiahnathancahigas9531 Před rokem +1

      #GazeYourStar!

    • @27jerry27
      @27jerry27 Před rokem +5

      "Base Model"

    • @duanefernando8456
      @duanefernando8456 Před rokem +3

      for the base model. this one Caco just drove is the top of the line, likely over a million na

    • @eyyydoddska
      @eyyydoddska Před rokem

      For the base model you do sacrifice with many stripped-off features, one of the most painful is the mono LCD display-doesn’t come equipped with that lovely 8-inch touchscreen infotainment system that comes with Wireless Apple Play and Android Auto.

  • @vonnblagaming984
    @vonnblagaming984 Před rokem +1

    I've been waiting for your take on the Stargazer finally!

  • @jynlacierda5812
    @jynlacierda5812 Před rokem +16

    Thanks for this review. We just got one. Excellent car compared to its contemporaries: more safety features with same market price. We are most happy driving it! BTW our previous car was isuzu :)

  • @joshcastillo141
    @joshcastillo141 Před rokem +6

    For me! The price range for this cool car is just right,.And it also fits it and as for the 3rd row when not halfly adjusted it's only good for short trips,,..To avoid discomfort but when it's already adjusted the third passenger can already enjoy the trip with ease.As for the cargo space 2-4 boxes is not going to be a problem as well 😉
    Umhmmm,. Correct me if I'm wrong though
    Is this already the younger sibling of the Hyundai Staria? Since it also has their respective looks,.With the Drls as well as the headlights and the fogs lights
    So? If it's the younger or older sibling,.Then I'm correct ✅
    O and speaking of which,.I'm alrdy excited for it's proper review 😉

  • @mrgoat8605
    @mrgoat8605 Před rokem +18

    Honestly with this design, I somehow feel like Hyundai has gone back 5 years

  • @bangsmatter4394
    @bangsmatter4394 Před rokem +3

    Obviously you had the shooting the same time as Reygan. But gosh, the difference in quality and hosting is just crazy obvious. Caco is really the king of Car Reviews.

  • @rommeltan2097
    @rommeltan2097 Před rokem

    Love the review. I love the ride and handling of hyundai (previously owned a tucson). But i had a horrible experience from the casa service of hyundai davao. I hope they have improved

  • @TheCARLOANExpert
    @TheCARLOANExpert Před rokem +1

    Thank you AUTODEAL and Sir Caco nice Review💯👌

  • @mijesalab2655
    @mijesalab2655 Před rokem +2

    Stellar review by caco, as expected. What isnt too likeable is exaggerated character lines and weird brake lights design (for the car).

  • @AjiePahlevi
    @AjiePahlevi Před rokem +5

    it comes with Captain Seat Option in here in Indonesia... nice review anyway Pre...

  • @rdpacis754
    @rdpacis754 Před rokem +12

    Now for the brv. Can't wait to see a review from that one!

  • @edwinmabesa1608
    @edwinmabesa1608 Před rokem

    Suggestion lang po.
    Isa sa pinaka importanting kailangan ng driver ay how headlights works specially at night. Baka pweding sa bawat review ay may portion ng testing driving at night at test ang headlights?
    Napakaimportanting portion po pero wala akong nakikitang reviewer na gumagawa :)

  • @wanderingtito6348
    @wanderingtito6348 Před rokem +4

    I call it the Starpander. Looks elegant. It can be a great chauffer driven Mamita vehicle.

  • @enerim19
    @enerim19 Před rokem +2

    Ang galing ng strategy ni Hyundai, commonly 5 seaters ang ginagawang top-of-the-line trim ng mga most car manufacturers pero this one it's the 7 seaters, mas marami nga naman bibili ng 7 seaters since this is a family hauler and since has no manual variant.

    • @airsight2753
      @airsight2753 Před rokem

      Lahat ng mpv ng ibang brand 7-seater like mobilio, avanza, ertiga, xpander. Avanza J variant lang ang 5-seater back in 2021.

  • @ctmaxxunil
    @ctmaxxunil Před rokem +1

    Stargazer.. I was hoping for sunroof for stargazing but really nice review..

  • @oskieboyadventures8677
    @oskieboyadventures8677 Před rokem +3

    I have been following you guys for the past few years. can you also review the Creta please. Thank you and more power!

  • @jomreal8341
    @jomreal8341 Před rokem +1

    Good review. What color did u test drive? Tnx

  • @davidhamilton506
    @davidhamilton506 Před rokem +5

    I should say it's excellent value, but would have liked to see a Panoramic roof in the top variant, that would have given a nod to the name Stargazer. As always Caco, another great review, thanks for sharing...

  • @beegeebad3193
    @beegeebad3193 Před rokem +8

    What I like about hyundai vehicles is the unique interiors. We do have a toyota as well but i hate it during long trips because the compartments are a mess. I like sorting my things comfortable enough for me when driving. That's what hyundai impresses

    • @MrSang-py3dd
      @MrSang-py3dd Před rokem +2

      That's my impression as well. We have a Fortune and Santa Fe, and the Santa Fe's interior design is more comfortable and a lot easier to "use". A lot roomier too.

  • @Marbeary
    @Marbeary Před rokem +9

    If this is successful it will push other MPV to improve tech in there vehicles. Competition is good.

  • @flordianetobias4781
    @flordianetobias4781 Před rokem

    I see this car at the mall yesterday and try to enter the cabin, and Its amazing very comfortable and relaxing, much have space and nice leather, and tv at the front seat. This is the future car I think on this generation and Hyundai make it so well. I don't have a car but I know exactly what It's better and pricely.

  • @sheenduguil4036
    @sheenduguil4036 Před rokem

    Good vehicle. I Think this will be a good choice given the price and hyundai's current reputation. Additionally i'm more interested in the steering wheel especially the design on the inner bottom part because that is where i usually place my hands when driving to relax.

  • @JuanDelaCruz-qt5ok
    @JuanDelaCruz-qt5ok Před rokem

    I saw one along Edsa. Ang ganda! Futurustic. Magaganda na Hyundai ngayon.

  • @cuneytaydogan3442
    @cuneytaydogan3442 Před rokem

    great review, thank you so much. And of course i salute hyundai managemrnt for introducing an mpv instead of another suv. i hope they bring it to turkey as well.

  • @gerardcarpizo
    @gerardcarpizo Před rokem +1

    After this review, I'm definitely waiting for a comparo video with other MPVs!

  • @edmarkcanete4367
    @edmarkcanete4367 Před rokem +10

    hyundai nailed it on MPV market , great competition

  • @gaylordfrancisco8928
    @gaylordfrancisco8928 Před rokem +8

    Happy that I didn't confirmed yet in getting an xpander. Would definitely get this, more powerful than the xpander and better looking in my opinion. Thanks sir Caco.

  • @johnmichaelbriones4058
    @johnmichaelbriones4058 Před rokem +1

    This tops the Xpander. I am waiting for the entry of the Xpander Cross with extended front bumper lights, but I am am having seconds thoughts now.

  • @unclejobietv4643
    @unclejobietv4643 Před rokem +1

    This will definitely murder the competition considering that it's better at a lower price. Kelan kaya available to sa Pinas?

  • @russheladarna
    @russheladarna Před rokem

    Best review so far 😊 caco 👍

  • @jojoestranger4989
    @jojoestranger4989 Před rokem

    hyundai is a reliable vehicle, we used to have one the i10 ,my cousin have one and my neighbor have a starex which is fun to drive.it’s show you its a popular vehicle in the Philippines.

  • @aldwinjasperjoniega8973
    @aldwinjasperjoniega8973 Před rokem +6

    What caco forgot to tell is...
    1. The steering wheel is telescopic.
    2. You can adjust the height of the driver seat.
    3. You can lean the 3rd row seats back, also the 2nd row.
    That's all i know...

    • @renzettgarcia9693
      @renzettgarcia9693 Před rokem +2

      First look pa naman siya, pero babanggitin naman siguro yan eventually sa full review.

    • @aquaboy1650
      @aquaboy1650 Před rokem

      Also the apple carplay is wireless

  • @khaledtamano5558
    @khaledtamano5558 Před rokem +1

    Sekarang ini Mobil Nomor satu di Indonesia. It's gonna be the Best selling ever Hyundai in the Philippines. Definitely soon a Long waiting List for the Buying public. Finally Mitsubishi Expander meets its Real Match. PREPARE TO WANT ONE.

    • @im4ms
      @im4ms Před rokem +1

      Anda salah, mobil terlaris di Indonesia bulan september itu Toyota Avanza 6855 unit
      Honda Brio 6246 unit
      Toyota Innova 5426 unit
      Source: GAIKINDO

  • @chim8582
    @chim8582 Před rokem +2

    Our new contender for the Xpander

  • @harmondeguzman
    @harmondeguzman Před rokem +4

    Hyundai: Can I copy your homework?
    Mitsubishi: Yes, but make some tweaks so its not obvious we have the same.

  • @renzki6645
    @renzki6645 Před rokem

    Ganda naman ng design ❤️❤️

  • @pogingpaugui
    @pogingpaugui Před rokem +1

    need to wait and hope for M/T Active with analog instrument panel 🤞

  • @raymondgloria3761
    @raymondgloria3761 Před rokem

    another good review thanks guys!

  • @jamwick9526
    @jamwick9526 Před rokem +1

    What I like about this car.
    1. Looks - side and back only
    2. Cup holders per door
    3. Infotainment
    4. Space inside like xpander
    5. IVT
    6. The competitive price
    Donts
    1. Not a fan of the front design
    2. No air vents at 3rd row
    3. Dashboard design that holds the infotainment
    5. Lack of 360 camera - same with xpander

  • @Alxmichael
    @Alxmichael Před rokem +8

    They could have added a moonroof/sunroof to actually “stargaze”.

  • @tutuy-mm2be
    @tutuy-mm2be Před rokem +7

    I'd consider this over an Xpander which was my original choice. 7 addtl horses and more torque are a plus. The exterior looks futuristic too and price isnt bad. Just wished there was a sunroof.

    • @raydavies3278
      @raydavies3278 Před rokem

      lts 10 more hp

    • @lucky889s9
      @lucky889s9 Před rokem

      No competitors of this class has sunroof, so it's not a big deal

    • @tutuy-mm2be
      @tutuy-mm2be Před rokem +4

      ​@@lucky889s9 but its a "stargazer" lol

    • @lucky889s9
      @lucky889s9 Před rokem

      @@tutuy-mm2be so of it's "xpander", it should expand to 9 seater? Go spend more money if you want a car with sunroof

    • @kangteban
      @kangteban Před rokem +1

      @@tutuy-mm2be right? right??? haha some people are taking your comment way too seriously

  • @charlesmikhaelyao7196

    Sheesh! Under 1M with that features. Competition is really ON.

  • @bunchtv7967
    @bunchtv7967 Před rokem

    Nice review!

  • @aldwinjosephempaces57

    Stargazer provides more comfort and style for a MPV. Very spacious and it has better safety features compared to other MPVs even BRv. Better riding experience and power. Hyundai indeed performs well with Stargazer and even all other products for 2023. Hyundai performs well also in the world market and waiting for IONIQ5 soon on the Philippine road.

  • @clarkegenio7239
    @clarkegenio7239 Před rokem

    Hi! Please do a review of the Coolray SE! Thanks.

  • @codgamer2361
    @codgamer2361 Před rokem

    I like the overall design of this new Hyundai. It reminds me of the second gen Honda Jazz.

  • @bigbigblast
    @bigbigblast Před rokem

    I think the exterior looks pretty decent. The front clip definitely is Xpanderish. The wheels? I don't feel the wheels. And that big plastic thing that covers the gauge cluster? It looks like the table piece on the high chair at McDonald's. Points taken off from the Stargazer.

  • @milsonaqui
    @milsonaqui Před rokem

    Great review!

  • @peternguyen4969
    @peternguyen4969 Před rokem

    Just arrived VietNam yesterday 10/20 too!

  • @hamsome9511
    @hamsome9511 Před rokem +6

    Exterior - Back to the future
    Interior - Blast from the past

    • @christianbalais1006
      @christianbalais1006 Před rokem +1

      Spot on.. that infotainment screen lookin like a Nintendo Switch doe 😅

    • @philipjosephvanpeel5950
      @philipjosephvanpeel5950 Před rokem +1

      That dashboard looks like something out of an East German people car from the '60s.

  • @raceliable
    @raceliable Před rokem

    Ang cool naman nito shucks, thanks sa review!

  • @monzireyes
    @monzireyes Před rokem

    Caco those pencil boxes were a measure of success! Mine turned into a robot 🥹

  • @ernzagayan5542
    @ernzagayan5542 Před rokem

    Asking if the transmission being matic, does it have the same thing such as HOLD POWER as what the SVX starex have?
    For this HOLD sa starex is a problem, keeps me from reparing it always, for what HOLDS does its usually drives for snow and runs only from 1st gesr to 3rd gear only. Pls advise if this unit still have those.

  • @triketir1586
    @triketir1586 Před rokem

    I have this car in indonesia, this car is very good, and have powerful engine and also economical

  • @WheelHeadd
    @WheelHeadd Před rokem

    Futuristic ng look pero ang old school tignan nung buong nung cover between dashboard to infotainment.

  • @quirbzzz
    @quirbzzz Před rokem

    nice review sir caco.

  • @Jo-xh7oq
    @Jo-xh7oq Před rokem

    89% battery level? Cool! Meron sya status ng battery?

  • @dsbigornia1
    @dsbigornia1 Před rokem

    according to Top Gear Phils., pre-order retail price for the base 1.5 GL variant is 998,000

  • @terrencedeguzman7682
    @terrencedeguzman7682 Před rokem +3

    Hyundai missed out by not putting a sunroof or for some people, moonroof (depends on how you view it), on the Stargazer. I mean, if you name a car with that, you should be at least, gaze on stars or something.

  • @markanthonyalferezcabanog1986

    One Day Ill have this and I will add Spoiler Wing, Perfect😍

  • @MrRevolation
    @MrRevolation Před rokem +1

    how about a review of the Hyundai Creta?

  • @carmelaestraza3519
    @carmelaestraza3519 Před rokem

    Very interesting vehicle and for the price. 😊

  • @gregsantos9731
    @gregsantos9731 Před rokem

    Uy! Wala pa sa 1M! and its Hyundai na! Wow!

  • @shemlaudet3751
    @shemlaudet3751 Před rokem

    Kindly do a review in creta, thank you.

  • @mikev.5845
    @mikev.5845 Před rokem +26

    Lack of 3rd row makes me reconsider the Xpander. If you could, please do a head-to-head comparison between the two. Thanks 🙏

    • @sieghart132
      @sieghart132 Před rokem +8

      the 3rd row space is bigger than Xpander

    • @scionrazer
      @scionrazer Před rokem +3

      I think the lower variants will have 6 seats. 2 captain chairs in the 2nd row, if we base on the Indonesian version.

    • @scionrazer
      @scionrazer Před rokem

      I'm also not too happy that they didn't bring the air-conditioning interface of the Indonesian version which looked much cooler than these knob-type

    • @scionrazer
      @scionrazer Před rokem +3

      granted that hunky dash is polarizing but the Indonesian version had ambient lighting all over the dash, not just the cup holders. Bottomline though, that 1.5L engine with iVT is superb, beaten only by the Honda BRV's engine (as long as it's not the Turbo charged version).. Honda's 1.5L turbo is not really their best one.

    • @czarpotchok
      @czarpotchok Před rokem +4

      It has 3rd row seats, did you watch the same vid?

  • @RaiOkami
    @RaiOkami Před rokem +4

    While it does look futuristic, I'm not a fan of the front nose design. That back looks great though! That infotainment housing also seems too chunky. They can probably trim that down later down the line and dash would look much better.

    • @WIPADCC
      @WIPADCC Před rokem

      Same, easy target if goons gonna do something bad for those who seat in front. Also easy to bump, if high impact, easy to crash.

  • @gem3226
    @gem3226 Před rokem

    The front of the Stargazar reminds me of the vehicle of Space Sheriff Gavan (a Japanese Tokusatsu series). I think the name of his vehicle is Saibarian. Hehe. 😅

  • @diegomartin-mv5lo
    @diegomartin-mv5lo Před rokem

    Nice presentation.

  • @miggs5616
    @miggs5616 Před rokem +1

    I just noticed na parang mababa yung sit height (passenger seat/2nd row). Para tuloy limited yung view sa windows - 08:36

  • @im4ms
    @im4ms Před rokem

    In Indonesia, the Hyundai Stargazer in September sold 2839 units and the winner remains the Toyota Avanza with 6855 units, Veloz 3411 units.

    • @lucky889s9
      @lucky889s9 Před rokem

      Mostly for corporate fleet and rentals. Astra group requires all of its many subsidiary companies to use Toyota cars. Therefore, the car registration is mostly company's name, not personal.

  • @lastlaugh2087
    @lastlaugh2087 Před rokem

    What is the best e power/hybrid in the ph market as of late?

  • @TheAdrianp0gi
    @TheAdrianp0gi Před rokem

    Matibay ba? aabot kaya ng 10 years on normal average office bahay gala usage?

  • @sprakenite
    @sprakenite Před rokem +1

    Design: ⭐
    Features: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
    Performance: ⭐⭐⭐⭐(probably)

  • @aldwinjosephempaces57

    Better review comparing it to other car reviews. Given you had 187k views after a month (highest views), it shows a lot of interest in the market.

  • @izrieza2289
    @izrieza2289 Před rokem

    stargazer has no spare tire set...can that be purchased ?optional ? and is there a model coming with sun rooof plus the spare tire possibly theis year ?..ty for reply

  • @mattardyantoriyadi
    @mattardyantoriyadi Před rokem +1

    So you guys doesn't get the captain chair option? That's the selling point of stargazer in Indonesia...

  • @rookiepods7040
    @rookiepods7040 Před rokem

    ang Ganda ng stargazer😮

  • @killuakillsgaming8567

    I was waiting for this and thought it would be 6-7 seater for every variant. I think i would still go for Ertiga or Xpander for our medium sized family as my 2nd car.

  • @Liriqos
    @Liriqos Před rokem

    BEAUTIFUL

  • @JaceD4V1S88
    @JaceD4V1S88 Před rokem

    im pissed we dont have these in the US, really trying to see how i can get it shipped and imported here

  • @studiotresph3965
    @studiotresph3965 Před rokem

    St.Peter is waving!

  • @madbudyou
    @madbudyou Před rokem

    I saw rear defogger there which Indo version lacks in all models

  • @prolly5201
    @prolly5201 Před rokem

    looks pretty good

  • @khelmikyahvyer6000
    @khelmikyahvyer6000 Před rokem +1

    The problem with Hyundai is the parts is very hard to obtain, it takes up to 2 months for a simple part like water pump to get. The aftermarket service is just bad the company needs a lot of improvements. I owned 4 Hyundai. Tucson, Eon, Getz, Veloster

  • @hunyango2k
    @hunyango2k Před rokem

    i just don't get the drum, 2022 and still using break drums... good luck using it on long winding hills... not reliable as a break disc, the more you use the break drums the more it will be problematic, unlike those break disc, especially those ventilated ones... lovely 👌👌👌 . break drums are soooooooo 3 decades ago...

  • @angelinerillorta4244
    @angelinerillorta4244 Před rokem

    Please do a review on Hyundai Creta

  • @ronnyarc3966
    @ronnyarc3966 Před rokem

    that dashboard...same like for cargo trucks?
    still sa expander cross pa rin ako.

  • @keyboardwarrior5315
    @keyboardwarrior5315 Před rokem

    i wanted to see the parking capabilities of this car like camera view front and back and other stuff when it comes to parking.

  • @gaufrid1956
    @gaufrid1956 Před rokem

    My neighbor has a Mitsubishi Expander. I haven't asked him how much it cost. The Hyundai Stargazer looks very good. Hey, you can fit more than seven Filipinos in that!

  • @ericchurch7456
    @ericchurch7456 Před rokem

    Definitely worth a look, maybe it’s my next car.

  • @francisbien7753
    @francisbien7753 Před rokem

    Hi :>
    can you do a review on Hyundai Creta 2023?

  • @jepelayo1
    @jepelayo1 Před rokem

    Loving the Robocop look of the car

  • @sirjohnpaulgalang3764
    @sirjohnpaulgalang3764 Před rokem +1

    At 9:36 mark, there is battery percentage icon at the dash. Does this mean its a hybrid? Or only shows the life/charge/health of your battery? Also, is that 614km your approx range given your current fuel level? Interesting....

    • @linkinparkadik
      @linkinparkadik Před rokem

      I think it has to do with the "Shipping Mode" that is visible on the cluster. Maybe it consumes less battery power / charge when transported?
      I haven't seen or read any article that says this is a hybrid, tho