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- čas přidán 1. 09. 2023
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#GadsdenFlag #US #Politics
Falls in line with punisher skull. Its not racist. Racist just like it.
It’s ironic. Cause the punisher would for sure kill the people using the symbol in that way.
@@SMA2343 yeah. Also a similar ironic thing with alot of Goku pfp users. Goku is a loving character, and they be racist and homophobic as hell (not as a joke). At least use a Frieza pfp bru.
it's hilarious because the punisher isn't in any way aligned with their views at all
The movie has right wing themes and some right wingers are racist. That's it.
Wait, punisher isnt a "fuck around and find out" type of guy? Cause thats essentialy the meaning of the flag.
BLM isnt bad in itself, but plenty of black supremacists and some white saviours use it, does that make it an anti-white movement?
Don’t step on snek
If u step on snek, snek step on u
no steppy on snekky (I feel dirty typing that)
I came here to say this, thank
"fuck around and find out" -2000s
"Don't step on snake" -2015
"Don't step on snek" -2021
Step the snek
As a black man who grew up in the south, I've never had a problem with the gasden flag. I know the true meaning behind it so I never saw it as a racist symbol. In fact, every person I knew/know that has one are some of the nicest people I've ever met. Just because some hateful people adopted something to fit their ideologies doesn't mean that's what it stands for. And I honestly wish people would stop speaking for groups of people they don't belong to and saying what is offensive to them. Let us speak for ourselves for Christ's sake
Facts
As a Blackman that has this patch. I can confirm that I am not a part of a rasict group.
as a dark skinned individual, no it aint racist. grew up around the south and dealt with plenty of folks who had that flag on their clothes and cars and I got along with them, namely cause im not walking around looking for conflict nor to be stuck in a victim complex. Making my own peace
unlike the libs
We went from "Im not a monkey, Im not a coal man, Im just a black man, and these chains wont hold me down" TO the point rappers are back to wearing chains and calling themselves slaves, like bruh they got some kind of racial kink?
Amen brother
I like the way you think
Thanks for being chill kumaking, we need more people like you
Bruh if a twelve year old is walking into school wearing all that political shit he’s getting bullied as hell 😭
talk that shit. I once saw a kid get cooked just for having a US Flag pin. I know little bro was in the trenches
Not technically political people just kinda associate it with right wingers
Doubt the kids even know what it is but ok
@@richey5125Yeah. Youd have to have little to no understanding of the political landscape to think that the Gadsden had anything to do with the "right wing".
@@ElDarric oh the irony 😮💨
your stupid is showing
It’s not racist. Appropriation of symbols by hateful groups doesn’t make the symbol itself racist. Same thing with Pepe back in the day.
I guess it depends on the intention I’m which the symbol is used. What’s the kids background and is his parents associated with any right wing groups?
Nazis appropriated the swastika. Doesn’t change the fact of what it is *now*
Pepe has come so far, I love him🥺 and the animations❤
The issue is the connotation of the symbol that matters. It doesn't matter that the swastika was originally used as a religious symbol by Buddhist monks. It became the symbol for one of the most evil groups in history, meaning you can't just walk jnto a school wearing it. It is not neccesarly the nature of a thing that matters, but how it is perceived to affect us.
@@tiernancusack8915I understand what you’re saying, but if we allow that to be our guiding principle of what’s acceptable we will _absolutely_ lose to the most malicious segments of society.
The flag is more associated with pro 2a groups though I would imagine since 2a people tend to be more conservative those on the extreme would hold similar positions on the 2a. But the flag has no racial context to it other than the fact right wing people that CAN be racist fly it because they are also pro 2a. That’s like saying flying the American flag is inherently racist because right wing people fly it too. The flag’s history has been historically used to express anti government sentiment and pro 2A positions. It’s ridiculous how everyone just labels stuff as racist because certain small groups hijack it for themselves.
It’s mostly used by libertarians (basically right wing anarchist)
@@50-frames-of-stick71 I mean not necessarily. Libertarians are right wing so yes they tend to be pro 2A. But i even know some conservative democrats that fly the flag. Its generally used as a pro 2A symbol.
@@VanTheMan1099 libertarian’s are pro 2a
Living in New Mexico I always associated this with gun rights groups. People.of every color have this as a bumper sticker or hat or something, the only common denominator being pro gun.
“Those unwilling to control their emotions and actions to follow, will be subject to incredible injustice”.
I would like to ask the kid himself what he thinks the symbol stands for.
There's a video, they are literally studying the revolution 😂
Yeah, the kid answers it quite clearly and correctly.
That's what i'm saying I don't know what his intentions are
Yeah, because there's clearly no double intended message with it being paired with patches of firearms 😅
@@sativadiva2389How so? Because you imagine only racists are pro 2A?
we can't just let bad people have ubiquitous things. It just gives them credence they don't deserve
The question is and always will be where we draw the line. Cuz you likely wouldn’t make the same arguments about the swastika being a patch on a kid’s backpack despite the symbol being much older than the nazis.
@@jjanglesandfriendsdamn, my fucking mind just got served, this is why I read comment sections like this, so many problems proven, wrong and right, like night and day, not everyone can think like you all do, it takes homework to learn these kinds of things.
@@jjanglesandfriends Way to bring it back to an even better point. But we give these symbols way too much power. Even as someone against the nazis, I would rather we let whoever wants to carry them around. I would much rather see who it is actually being a problem openly and yes, the kids who may bring them around as people who we should work towards getting the proper education in some topics. Outright banning of symbols doesn't do much but put on blinders and doesn't help anyone.
are you really equating the libertarian flag to the nazi flag?? LOL@@jjanglesandfriends
Remember when they tried to take milk for themselves?
Seems like a slam-dunk first school first amendment issue, no?
Forcing someone to remove the Gadsden flag is completely not understanding what it means I’m a POC and I have a tattoo of it
POC named Chad Doyle who's also giving this a pass.
Forgive me if I'm looking at you a little funny style🤔
@@andreww.9342 trust me I know but it shouldn’t matter that much, banning this flag is just giving fodder to the libertarians
Why would you have a tattoo of a POC?
@@andreww.9342dude, wow. 10% of the world has Irish blood, you don't believe any of the 31.5 million could be POC
Pics or it didnt happen
I thought it was popular amongst the 2A groups.
It Has NOTHING TO DO WITH "SLAVERY" OR THE SLAVE TRADE!
Even the GOV of Colorodo posted that it was time to *EDUCATE THE EDUCATORS*
Congrats to this school, now they proved they don’t know their history.
I would call myself center of left leaning when it comes to thinking. The don't tread on me has been a symbol that has been used in many different ways to say that individuals are willing to fight back if their ideals are being stepped on or impeded in any way. While it has been used in cases for white supremacists, it's just a symbol of Strength in Ideals
It's not racist, period.
How do you claim something back? (A lot of military individuals respect it) I feel like it's free for all. Not racist.
When I was in the military, I found it hilarious how many people flew that flag and allegedly aligned with its meaning. How you gonna have a flag saying don't tread on me when not only is your whole job just treading on everyone else's freedom from YOUR government, you're also the governments lapdog, who signs your checks and gives you benefits for servicing the state. Like how ya gonna support the state and government, AND tell them not to mess with you? Like wtf even is going on inside those heads? (The answer to that is a desire to shoot guns at brown people)
Once information warfare has had its way with a symbol, that symbol is forever compromised. For example there are still products made in SE Asia that have Swastikas' on them; the symbol appears in many ancient temples as well. However SE Asia is the only place in the world where the people there feel it means something different than the rest of the world does now after WWII.
I think of it the same way as the Punisher logo. Neither are inherently white supremacist in their messaging or origin, but they get frequently co opted by those kinds of people.
The don't tread on me badge should have been allowed. However, he also had several patches of guns and rifles which in a school setting is a bit iffy. So there is a 50/50 thing here. But no, not racist imo.
I thought it was a "Don't hurt snakes" thing
Daniel Tosh would be proud this segment is being continued
It's not a racist symbol; it's about libertarianism and the struggle against those who wield authority without justice. It's the people who want to use their authority against others that have a problem with the Gadsden Flag and that includes "antiracists".
Anti-authoritarian symbols really bother the people who obsess over controlling others.
Yessir
We should always look at what the original purpose of something is for and base it off of that.
Anyone left, center or right can rock that flag. I think pro choice should too. My body my choice don’t tread on me🤷🏽♂️
Exactly. Libertarians aren't left or right. They're anti-authority.
Yepp that flag and slogan applies to everyone who who feels their rights are at risk
I put this flag on my Dads bumper and my sister got offended by it and kept saying it’s racist which it isn’t
In Texas people think of a don’t tread on me flag people as Texas revolution
Isn’t it anti-government? Or something along those lines? I haven’t heard of it having anything to do with race.
Yep, you are correct. It has nothing to do with race.
I find this crazy School Would sooner remove a kid for a symbol That most people wouldn't even care about Then a bully constantly harassing others and misbehaving in class SMH
Kinda like the USA flag, seen plenty of racists slap that all over their trucks. However doesn’t mean the symbol is racist. Need more info on the kid and the family intentions but maybe we should move on to something more important
With how many racists this country has, I genuinely believe a lot of people do associate the US flag with racism, just like many Americans would associate Iraqs flag with terrorism, or the flag of Congo with poverty.
@@LotusAuer You think most americans know what the congolese flag looks like? You could show any red, white, and black middle eastern flag and they'd say terrorist.
@LotusAuer alot of leftwing people do see the american flag as racist
@phalluserectus6727 I wonder why, it's not like I just gave the reasoning or rational as to how symbols get associated with those that use them
@@LotusAuer it's not reasonable or rational to use an extreme minority to tar a nations flag its leftist emotional brain rot
If I saw that badge, I would have thought it was trying to bring awareness to the dangers of rattlesnake snakes
Former Marine that just also happens to be Asian. Not racist. We used to have it hanging around the barracks rooms all the time when I was in. We know what it means and it’s just what we do. Now if some jackass wants to use a symbol to further their stupidity and hate, then it can’t be helped.
It’s like when hitler high jacked the swastika from Buddhists by reversing it and using it as a symbol for his party. If you go to Asia, you’ll see the swastika from time to time because it actually means something completely different.
At the end of the day it’s all about the intention. People need to stop being so politically sensitive. It’s making us all more divisive and stupid.
Bill Burr - is it racist-sist-sist-sist (echo)
The Gaston flag mean don’t mess with me
I guess it's better then walking in with an AR-15. 😒 One thing I love about private school there's uniformity... you come to learn not make a fashion or political statement.
You can have it on a Virginia license plate
There is a parody patch called, 'Don't tread on Snek!' probably wouldn't have had the same issue as it is crudely drawn as if by a child.
I'm black and I have that symbol on patches and a hat...
Ok I thought it was just one patch? His whole backpack looks like a community posting board! Lol
This is the same exact situation with pepe the frog
why does a 12 year old look like a full grown man??
For one, he's not a snowflake lib shill.
He doesn't he looks like a 10 year old with too much product in his hair.
@@songofrestas opposed to the alpha right wingers who have a mental breakdown anytime people are allowed to learn about american history or people who look different are allowed to have rights?
@@superkingoftacos2920 keep drinking the kool-aid.
Damn doing Tosh.O now lmaoo
That's actually also the cover of a Metallica album too! That's not racist!
Calling the "Don't tread on me" flag racist because some racist use it is the same as calling the Pride flag p*dophilic because some p*dophiles use it. It isn't a racist flag.
Some people are saying that a kid shouldn't be wearing political patches in the first place, same thing can be said about pride flags. Showing your pride for same sex romance because its a human right should be treated the same as showing your pride in arms against tyranny.
Either both flags are okay, or neither are.
I've never considered the image to be racist in nature. Anti-establishment, yes. Anti-government, yes. But theres nothing about the message that specifically has anything to do with race. Additionally, I'm pretty sure this is a CLEAR example of infringing the child's constitutional rights; wearing an anti-establishment image and being told by a public organization that you must remove it or face consequences is exactly what that ammendment was made to protect
Next time you drink water, please remember you are committing what could be construed as a racist act, nearly 100% of racists drink water regularly.
False equivalency. Everyone drinks water, not everyone displays a flag.
@@LemonSteThose with ideals do, that flag represents the ideal of liberty. Are you against those ideals?
This kid out here showing Actual patriotism and getting called racist for it... smh
That kid looks like he needs friends.
He 100% gets bullied daily
@@ThinkIn4Dthey probably do tread on him (jk)
Lots of people in these comments projecting their childhood bullying trauma onto this kid
Losers
@@phalluserectus6727 jokes on u i was bullied in school. check...mate, dweeb.🤓
@@phalluserectus6727 foreal some grown children
What really gets me is the people who have that flag and also a "blue lives matter" flag on their car. Like who, sit, do you think is the one doing the treading?
Also the snake pach in question is commonly used to mark rattlesnake cage
It’s not racist at all. About 1 in every 5 houses in my area (Delco PA) have those flags. It’s a symbol of the 13 colonies unity. If people have a problem with that then why should people be allowed to have a pride flag on their bag. Doesn’t make sense. Sure some racists may use it but doesn’t mean it’s a racist flag.
My history teacher literally had that flag in the classroom. He was one of the only teachers I connected with. And because of him I was the only kid in class that passed every test the entire year with 100% accuracy.
Idk it’s kinda neutral it’s basically just saying stand up for what you believe in which can be good or bad but asking someone to take that flag down specifically is obviously gonna have push back idk what they expected
I reckon the teachers a Redcoat
My god of course it’s Colorado
My state just doesn’t like anything that’s slightly racist
Seeing as it was meant against the English. I'm from the UK. And I couldn't care less. I'm a friggin adult. Doesn't affect me nor do I take offence. And I doubt the kid meant any either.
Okay but the meaning has evolved.
@@LemonStenope
stumped because I'm also from Colorado and I remember even seeing this flag in some teachers classes lol (mainly history teachers) so I'm not getting why his school had such an issue with a small thing on a backpack of all things.
I feel like this is the same situation with the Punisher Skull and the Indian Swastika. It's not really a racist image, it's just used a lot by racists.
Not racist... wish people would try to understand before just labeling each other as enemies 😮
Who TF is J-Rod? Is this the new Let's Go Brandon?
The things that’s wrong is that the administrator in the video said the flag had ties to the “confederacy” and the “slave trade” which is just stupid and makes me wonder why she’s an educator to begin with
It’s not racist, it’s about sticking it to the government.
Thats what i dont get about right wingers using the image. They are for the goverment control, leftist are more anti-government which shouldnt be the case
It was about anti-british messaging but much like the Punisher skull it's been co-opted by far right snowflakes as a form of copium
And the question being begged by this is what about the government are they sticking it to? More often then not it's about diversity policy "being shoved down our throats" is the typical line. Government is forcing folks to be queer, get gay married, to take our guns, rape pur kids, and sacrifice them to satan for the adrenachrome.
I'm an anarchist, that's about sticking it to the government and all hierarchies of authority. The folks with the don't tread on me are just angry bigots who are upset they can't be bigoted anymore cause various government laws.
Agreed, also #fkthefed
You sound like a hippie
The school handled this as bad as they possibly could. "No political apparel" would have been enough. If that wasn't a rule, then they should have made one if this was a problem. Total shit show on the schools part.
Not racist just cringe.
Facts
Freedom is cringe
Is a very cringe take
Wait a minute, Phil. Didn't he also have gun patches on it?
I thought we already decided this was racist years ago lol
My Son would have loved the 🐍 patch, bc he loves all reptiles!
It means exactly what it says on the flag
No. Next question.
If we allow racist to get power over everything they adopt and say they own, then suddenly we start losing alot of general things. I remeber when hair cuts where being critiqued as racist. Next thing we know i can no longer where a white shirt because thats racist.( well being black i doubt people would say it to me but you get the idea)
For some reason, I don't think the parents put that there to scare away british people.
My teacher has that in his room
Lol it’s Colorado Springs 😅 doesn’t surprise me. It’s so crazy, travel to Boulder and it’s a whooollleeee different playbook
In today's news sep 4 your show had a clip of the proud boy sentenced to 18 yrs. His bullhorn had a don't tread on me sticker. I hope we can take that symbol back.
I live in the og 13 colonies it will always be an anti British symbol DO NOT STEP ON SNEK
No ....
Who miss old Phil?
The snake's just asking to not be stepped on.
So basically if you squint really really hard and turn down the lights, it COULD be racist...
He’ll nah that ain’t racist it’s the first amendment
Not at all live in Texas not cali, wait never mind
So we can't call this racist unless we call the punisher, norse/viking symbols, and the outsiders mark (from the Dishonored game series) racist as well. Which i do hate that they like them, but still guys.
That image is not racist. It's a part of American history.
Let’s be fair here if a school asked a kid who had a lgbt pin on them and asked them to remove it, a lot of you would be looking at the parents and saying kids should just be kids and not worry about such things even though the rainbow flag isn’t political. I don’t think this kid did anything wrong but I also understand why the message isn’t could disturb people, considering the recent context it’s been used in.
If racists decide to only wear jeans from now on, does that mean wearing jeans is racist? Of course not.
So then why would wearing a patch of a snake be racist just because some racists have adopted it?
I find the issue not with 'is it racist' but why is a 12 year old wearing such heavy symbolism? lol
I remember reading an article once where a committee in some college was trying to call soap dispensers racist. Apparently, their argument was that it forced black students to show their palms or something.
Idk if the article was legitimate or not, but this feels similar in taking something that is mundane, maybe significant, and using it to symbolize what you want to show, people use symbols to connotate different things, similar to Swasticas you can't tell if the kid was trying to be racist or tell the government to screw off.
Honestly any set of words, symbols or whatever the fuck else can be/will be at some point missused by bad people. I mean take a look at germany and the Swastika or what 4chan did with Pepe and even the fucking Ok sign. Unless it was something actually meant to be used as rascism or something equally bad we shouldn't demonize the individual.
How about no.
What's the school's stance on Pride or BLM stuff? Considering the 1A, they have to apply the same standard.
I'd watch the kid a little closer though.
i just recognize it from metallica bruh
The flag is a reinterpretation of a flag frok the American Revoultion where colony states were parts of the snake & it said " join or die"
The shirt isn't racist, it's just popular among racists.
Just watch what people post who defend it. They cannot help but reveal themselves.
If it’s not racist then it’s not racist
Regular people eat bbq food but its also very popular among racist too. Your logic holds up if you think this is valid
@AlphaSporeGaming the swastika was widely used as a symbol of many other names, and promoted (almost everywhere) peace. Racists took that symbol and used it for themselves, so much so that it's pretty much only seen as such. A symbol can be appropriated for anything, this flag was appropriated by white supremacists, so it's associated with white supremacy now. Just because backwards conservatives ALSO want less government (so they can do more shady things) doesn't give them plausible deniability that this flag is flown by racists for racist reasons.
Every racist drinks water. Water is racist!
A shirt was not involved in this story. If you want to say some dumb stuff...at least watch the video first.
Racist or not, I just don't get the point of going around showing off your political ideals. Especially a kid. It just seems very pointless. And I've never ever heard anything good come from it, just bad things.
You sound like one of those losers who cry about civility politics when they are mad in order to prioritize the conversation around themselves.
No one cares about your opinion, especially when it doesn’t involve you
I live in COS!
The "Dont Tread On Me" flag is not, and never will be.
i thought that background on the top was a gd level
Isn’t it an ANTI BULLYING statement from a kid’s perspective?
Maybe it’s just a cool snake on a sticker to quickly identify his backpack. Maybe yellow is his favorite color end of story.
Kids can’t even enjoy a sticker anymore without adult’s making it a huge identity issue/crisis. Branding the kid for life over a symbol that has MANY meanings isn’t fair or healthy.
A sticker is just a sticker to kids. Don’t we teach kids “Don’t judge a book (or people)by its cover“?
It’s also a marine military symbol of strength and courage. The Marine version of “Don’t mess with Texas“. It’s pro American.
But racists are going to see racism around every corner. If you try hard enough you can corrupt anything into evil.
Glad I’m not a kid growing up in the toxic climate that this country and world has become.
@@rampagegamingg8434why are you racist to hinduism ?