I like to use a streamer fly behind a green weenie, with the dropper coming off the eye of the green weenie. The little tail on the green weenie, coupled with the dropper off the hook eye, makes it dart around really erratically and pulls the streamer along in a similar fashion. It's unorthodox, but works great!
Yeah man, streamers behind nymphs always works well! Absolutely! The streamer looks like a bait fish chasing a bug. Stirs up the trouts predatory behavior.
Thanks Shawn. When I lived in B.C. we could only fish one fly and it sort of took some of the stress off of having multiple flies. I moved to Alberta and we can used multiple flies on the line, so you are often fishing two or three nymphs or a hopper dropper. I no longer use tapered leaders let alone tippet material. Thanks again for this demo.
Glad to help Kerry, but I’m sure you already knew all this. Yeah man, I try to fish a 2 fly system most of the time I can. Just gives more options to the fish, and allows you to find the flies the trout want faster, but it does lead to more tangles and can be frustrating to fish...
Good tutorial Angker. Thanks. I use a two fly system almost exclusively (except where prohibited) and I prefer the dropper loop system using a perfection loop in the main tippet section. That way you can change out the top fly without having to totally re-rig. Seems like I get 80% of takes on the bottom fly though.
McFly Angler Sorry, I didn't explain that very well. I tie a "usual suspect" group of flies with 8-12" of tippet and a perfection loop at the end and then make a loop to loop connection to the perfection loop on the main line.
Arizona Fly Rodder Yeah, pretty much. I tie a conventional knot to the hook eye and leave 8-12" of tippet and tie a perfection loop in the end. Then I can use a loop to loop to the perfection loop on the main line. I've also tied two perfection loops in the main line and attached two flies via loop to loop.
Big Papi that's brilliant... I'm going to start doing that. One of my fly boxes came with a bunch of empty spools that I had no idea what to do with until now...
Yeah, small streamers or use an indicator rig like this. I don’t know the bugs in your area, so I can’t suggest any flies, but throw out an indicator rig with some nymphs. Adjust the depth according to where the fish are, and give a few twitches. Should work well.
Thanks for the great conversation. But it's frustrating to hear you reference the knots and flies but we can't really see them. For a beginner it's harder to learn without seeing.
Hey sorry about that, this video is very old. I didn’t link to knot videos on it probably. Search for the names of the knots though and you should be able to find them, I’ve done detailed videos on how to tie most of the knots.
Did you notice more takes since you started using the flourocarbon tippet section compare to just nylon? Do you think it makes that much of a difference that an angler should take the extra time and expense to tie in a flourocarbon tippet section? I have been kicking that idea around in my head for awhile. Just haven't done the leg work to see if it is worthwhile.
It depends on where i fish. If the water is gin clear, than yes, very much so. If it’s not clear than not much difference. There are different properties to flourocarbon though, it’s tough. It won’t get as much abrasion on rocks or anything. So with nymphing it can be beneficial. Just don’t ever use it with dry flies, it sinks, so it will sink your dry.
Paul Kruse I've gone exclusively to fluoro for nymphing and when running streamers on sink tip line. One negative is that Fluoro is more "slick" than mono so you really need to seat your knots well
Big Papi Thank you for the advice. I have used flouro leaders for Steelhead fishing. Yea, you definitely have to pay closer attention to your knot tying. And boy is that stuff strong. Ever try to break off a snag of 13# flouro? WOW!
Glad to help Paul, and good thoughts everyone on the knot slickness. I tie only 3 knots 99% of the time. When you do something over and over again you get pretty good at it. I suggest this to everyone. Don’t change up different knots for different things. Fine one knot and stick with it. You get really good at it and will have far less mistakes.
I never said I dont believe in them. I use them all the time. Sometimes I dont use them though in specific situations. However when trout fishing I almost always use them. Not sure where I said that. LOL
Can fish the entire water column in a pond with multiple nymphs. Maybe a wire leaded blood worm for point fly and chronomid higher. "Still water" fly fishing is still new to me. =)
I hear ya, yeah there is lots of different ways to fish in still water. But tossing out an indicator rig when fishing for trout still gets bites. A few little twitches and the trout go wild. But for bass, not so much.
Sure use BFS Finesse Tactics with your fly rod. The lines are getting so blurry these days. ;) I just don't get why they spend so much money on ruber baits?
Great video. I love the Airlock indicator, too
Yeah, airlocks are good stuff!
I like to use a streamer fly behind a green weenie, with the dropper coming off the eye of the green weenie. The little tail on the green weenie, coupled with the dropper off the hook eye, makes it dart around really erratically and pulls the streamer along in a similar fashion. It's unorthodox, but works great!
Yeah man, streamers behind nymphs always works well! Absolutely! The streamer looks like a bait fish chasing a bug. Stirs up the trouts predatory behavior.
Thanks Shawn. When I lived in B.C. we could only fish one fly and it sort of took some of the stress off of having multiple flies.
I moved to Alberta and we can used multiple flies on the line, so you are often fishing two or three nymphs or a hopper dropper. I no longer use tapered leaders let alone tippet material. Thanks again for this demo.
Glad to help Kerry, but I’m sure you already knew all this.
Yeah man, I try to fish a 2 fly system most of the time I can. Just gives more options to the fish, and allows you to find the flies the trout want faster, but it does lead to more tangles and can be frustrating to fish...
Sure I know it, but you share good and useful information for those who do not. I like that about you and your work.
Thanks Kerry! :)
Good tutorial Angker. Thanks. I use a two fly system almost exclusively (except where prohibited) and I prefer the dropper loop system using a perfection loop in the main tippet section. That way you can change out the top fly without having to totally re-rig. Seems like I get 80% of takes on the bottom fly though.
So I’m trying to figure out how the perfection loop helps you change out the top fly?
I'm guessing you use a loop-to-loop style connection with the perfection loop and hook eye?
McFly Angler Sorry, I didn't explain that very well. I tie a "usual suspect" group of flies with 8-12" of tippet and a perfection loop at the end and then make a loop to loop connection to the perfection loop on the main line.
Arizona Fly Rodder Yeah, pretty much. I tie a conventional knot to the hook eye and leave 8-12" of tippet and tie a perfection loop in the end. Then I can use a loop to loop to the perfection loop on the main line. I've also tied two perfection loops in the main line and attached two flies via loop to loop.
Big Papi that's brilliant... I'm going to start doing that. One of my fly boxes came with a bunch of empty spools that I had no idea what to do with until now...
Awesome video man!
Thanks
McFly Angler Also, a reservoir near me recently released stocked rainbow trout. Any advice you can give for fly fishing rainbows in this scenario?
Yeah, small streamers or use an indicator rig like this. I don’t know the bugs in your area, so I can’t suggest any flies, but throw out an indicator rig with some nymphs. Adjust the depth according to where the fish are, and give a few twitches. Should work well.
Thanks for the great conversation. But it's frustrating to hear you reference the knots and flies but we can't really see them. For a beginner it's harder to learn without seeing.
Hey sorry about that, this video is very old. I didn’t link to knot videos on it probably. Search for the names of the knots though and you should be able to find them, I’ve done detailed videos on how to tie most of the knots.
great info!!
Thanks
Congrats on the new house. Its great you have a dedicated tying room too.....must have a cool wife :-)
She is cool!
Did you notice more takes since you started using the flourocarbon tippet section compare to just nylon? Do you think it makes that much of a difference that an angler should take the extra time and expense to tie in a flourocarbon tippet section? I have been kicking that idea around in my head for awhile. Just haven't done the leg work to see if it is worthwhile.
It depends on where i fish. If the water is gin clear, than yes, very much so. If it’s not clear than not much difference. There are different properties to flourocarbon though, it’s tough. It won’t get as much abrasion on rocks or anything. So with nymphing it can be beneficial. Just don’t ever use it with dry flies, it sinks, so it will sink your dry.
Paul Kruse I've gone exclusively to fluoro for nymphing and when running streamers on sink tip line. One negative is that Fluoro is more "slick" than mono so you really need to seat your knots well
McFly Angler Thank you for your time and tips.
Big Papi Thank you for the advice. I have used flouro leaders for Steelhead fishing. Yea, you definitely have to pay closer attention to your knot tying. And boy is that stuff strong. Ever try to break off a snag of 13# flouro? WOW!
Glad to help Paul, and good thoughts everyone on the knot slickness. I tie only 3 knots 99% of the time. When you do something over and over again you get pretty good at it. I suggest this to everyone. Don’t change up different knots for different things. Fine one knot and stick with it. You get really good at it and will have far less mistakes.
What is with the tapered leader. In one of your videos you stated that you didn't believe in them.
I never said I dont believe in them. I use them all the time. Sometimes I dont use them though in specific situations. However when trout fishing I almost always use them. Not sure where I said that. LOL
Depends on your fly line. With some of these long wacky super cast heads on the new lines. You really don't need a taper.
would this work in a pond when fishing for small bass and panfish? and would you recommend using this in a pond?
This is a nymphing rig. For bass, I mostly use streamers. But for panfish yes. And trout in lakes always will hit this rig.
Can fish the entire water column in a pond with multiple nymphs. Maybe a wire leaded blood worm for point fly and chronomid higher. "Still water" fly fishing is still new to me. =)
I hear ya, yeah there is lots of different ways to fish in still water. But tossing out an indicator rig when fishing for trout still gets bites. A few little twitches and the trout go wild. But for bass, not so much.
Sure use BFS Finesse Tactics with your fly rod. The lines are getting so blurry these days. ;) I just don't get why they spend so much money on ruber baits?
Redundent, is thar how you spell that?
ALL IS GOOD....BUT BUDDY YOU TALK TOO MUCH AND REPEAT YOURSELF NA HUNDRED TIMES....boring
All good bro.