I'm very mad about it being a seventh film. One through six should've been the only thing and the rest in the star wars universe was for the EU. Disney are just hungry for money.
I agree, they are just butt hurt about his death and can't get over the fact they had the guts to kill Chewie off. Then they become close minded and don't give New Jedi Order a chance.
Ironinquisitor Which begs the question why the fuck weren't fans loathing when han died and best of all how he went out was so out of character...It shows their hypocrisy at best.
When Bionicle was cancelled, Greg Farshety, it's main author, said something very wise. That Lego could not continue it, fans would have to fight tooth and knuckle to keep it alive. I think we'll have to do that as well with the EU.
The reason why I love ESB was because it was dark. Also for the soundtrack too. And I agree with what you said at the end. It's like any publicity is good publicity. I just had to make a video responding to some more weak arguments made by casual fans. I may have kind of repeated some things you said already, but it really gets frustrating, annoying and very repetitive to hear the same crap over and over again about "continuity" and "Just keep the Thrawn series."
Amen brother! People have been sharing my videos online and it's been great hearing more and more people respond to them. Remember, even those who oppose us give us a chance to keep the EU fresh in their minds. I LOVE it either way!
i just stumbled on this video and i have to say it feels great to hear someone who feels the same way i do about the eu. i felt like disney has just yelled a huge fuck you to all the fans, authors, and artists who have poured so much into the eu. its great to know im not alone in the galaxy.
Thanks man. If you liked that check out my other videos about the Expanded Universe. I agree, casual fans just don't understand. Check out my discussion with Lord Vader on my (Story Group Propaganda) post. The poor s.o.b. isn't able to give me a single rebuttal for what I'm saying to him. Funny and sad at the same time.
***** Hello! First off, it's important to remember that casual Star Wars fans know little to nothing about the EU in the first place. This guy sounds like one of them. Here's a few I can think of off the top of my head. Coruscant was named by Timothy Zahn in Heir to the Empire. Lucas loved the name so much he used it in the films. Maul's double-bladed lightsaber was an invention of Kevin J Anderson's Jedi Academy series, of which George thought was a wonderful idea and used it in Phantom Menace. Aayla Secura from the comic books was included in Episode 3 when Lucas saw her on the cover of a book and wanted to include her in the film. Even her Jedi Master Quinlan Vos was mentioned in the film too.
***** Ha ha ha! Don't bother with him then, He's too ignorant to waste your time with my friend. If he can't accept facts then he just wants to pick a fight. Classic lack of Emotional Intelligence, like I said.
Those do seem like bad reasons to hate on it. The way it was set up it was a breeding ground for an elitist fanbase, but I do feel sorry for the handful of people that really liked the novels and comics (I have a friend who's gone flat out nuts over it).
Thanks, I wish more people were too lol. But I think closed mindedness is a big part of nerd culture XD. Oh and believe me, he knows lol. In fact he's the reason I discovered your vids in the first place.
You are so right man. As someone who has every book, from kids ones to all the others from Alan Dean foster's a splinter in the mind's eye through now. We INVESTED in this universe which gave momentum to the backers who supported the prequels and now these. They KNEW people were going to buy in because we were already buying into the EU. I agree with everything you said. Thanks for saying this. I've been so depressed. Every time I see my many book cases packed with Star Wars, my boxes of comics(have all and graphic novels), and my stack of Star Wars games..I feel kicked in the teeth. Posted that on the Star Wars Del Ray Books FB page. Thanks for posting man. Makes me feel less alone about this. -Jon
Jon, THANK YOU for joining the cause. Good to hear another massive collector's out there. We'll have to compare collections some time my frIend. Love live the EU
Definitely! Check out the "Star wars Books" official page by Del Rey. They just responded in a post earlier to a lot of this. Their answer is total crap though. That's where a lot of people are posting about this stuff.
Thanks for the video. I like your comment that talking about the EU is what is keeping it alive at this point. I think the goal of getting a response and hopefully a positive response to continuing the now dubbed Legends timeline is a great idea. The fact is we don't know what the new movies will be like. We don't. They might be great! But the EU is what we grew up with and it has made Star Wars what it is today which is much more than a set of 6 movies. I believe many of the EU haters are just finding it easier to part ways with the EU by turning their backs on it. It's the lazy way out and it's more popular. Instead of standing up to changes it's easier to just take it. I appreciate that you have taken a stand.
Thanks for the support man. I'm keeping the topic alive in hopes of getting some traction for Lucasfilm to continue the Legends storyline. The more of us that voice our opinion the better our chances! Btw, you moved yet? I'd still like to chat with you sometime and compare our EU libraries to see what's missing.
***** there's another video where I talk about what I think the Legends title means. I'm just using their terminology to discuss a point. I agree with you that the term Legends does not accurately describe the EU
That's what someone told me why he didn't like it. He said it was too dark. Yet ask him what his favorite film was and he'll tell you "Empire" every time.
+Michael Scott They are too busy repeating Plinkett and his RotS counter that "being dark doesn't make it good". Of course trying to say why ESB is good without saying "dark" is kinda the Achilles heel of that argument.
Clapping. Laughing. Absolutely. Why the heck bother with all these timelines in the books and comics if they weren't trying to be canon or semi canon? The broad strokes were all consistent. It was only tiny details that wasn't. And yet they call US immature. Ironically we are being told to settle for Disney's new kiddie fair and grow up by the same people, practically in the same breath!
I really want to get into the expanded universe but i could never get into the Zahn books. where is a good place to start.....other than the thrawn trilogy. On the topic of the video, i totally agree with you guys. There was a point that Matt made in another video that really resonated with me. He argued that disney could have made a movie set 200 years in the future. I think that would have been far more creative than rehashing the stormtroopers as the main bad guys again.
Ok, is there another era in Star Wars that interest you? The Darth Bane trilogy is good. Or in the Post-Jedi era you have the X-wing novels and Shadows of the Empire.
Matt wilkins I started reading the cloak of deception which takes place before phantom menace. I am really enjoying it. I want to get into what happened after Return of the Jedi too. Thank you for the suggestions I will definitely look into the x-wing series!
My cousin argued to me that lore doesnt matter and that reboot is an old hollywoord trait. THe only thing he argued against in my EU is canon rant. I said our life time is old but media wise reboot is a young trend that I hope will die. I have to admit for 30 years of star wars, it never had a death date. With Disney in control it does now and its sad. Itll trend and itll die.
Matt wilkins They should do what they did back in the day with Batman. No the reboots but the multiverses. Help people follow the new canon with movies but still continue the old ones with movies as well.
Agreed. I really don't see any reason why not. Seriously, DC and Marvel as well as few other franchises do it all the time in regards to having alternate continuities going on at once.
Great video. It's always strange to hear that many people didn't like The Empire Strikes Back initially when it's now generally considered the best Star Wars film and possibly one of the best films ever made. Especially when what they didn't like was the best part of the movie.
Disney Star Wars is not for me. The Marvel movies are fun popcorn films, worth watching once and Disney World is a fun place to visit. Did that answer your question? : )
I used to be a big EU hater. I hated it almost from the beggining. I sort of liked Timothy Zahn's Thrawn books, But everything after that I didnt like for so many years. I've changed my mind on the expanded universe completely.
i could agree 100% with you, if you can ask me one question... where i can find this "haters"? theres vlogs, or blogs, or rants, or facebook pages, hashtag, where? can you give me a link or even proofs? because every time i find hate coments they always talk about the prequels, the force awakens, or even the original trilogy when they said that the pequels or the EU is better, i never found people who despise the EU as they despise the movies.. i just saying
lol. check my comments on CZcams for starters. Since this post is a year old a lot of the comments should be buried in their history but you can always check out the "Eff the EU" Facebook page. Warning: They are racist and VERY offensive at times. Then of course you can look through Google's history for news about the EU (late 2012) and read every negative article on the EU (which triggered these videos in the first place) Also, continue to check out Facebook for continous abuse. (the Internet is a terrible place sometimes) I can't post any of it, due to some of the racist and "phobic" comments they post but it's pretty harsh stuff people have to deal with on both sides. It's not as "one sided" as folks have you think. Thanks for the comment!
Matt wilkins why i should bother that most haters of the EU are "racist" and "phobic", even thought most star wars fanboys hate that disney put political correctness in the star wars universe? oh yeah when someone hate the diversity in the real life is bad, but when disney put diversity in the star wars universe you said that is SJW propaganda... i don't know who is the enemy anymore, i don't know how i must to fell anymore, and i don't know what is star wars anymore. lucas didn't kill it, disney didn't kill it, the entire fandom kill it
@@motor4X4kombat I guess it's the fandom that creates shitty movies, unwatchable animated series, cancels planned videogames and makes cashgrab mediocre-at-best videogames. And how are EU fans racist? I've seen that remark being thrown around without backing or context
Matt wilkins Something else I wanted to ask you: So the EU was never actually in canon with the movies? It was like on its own? (Sorry, I'm new to legends. And am kinda stupid when it comes to it...)
+Star Wars Is Awesome no man, you're questions perfectly fine. The EU was C-canon with the movies. C-canon means it was in continuity with the films. George even added several aspects from the EU to the prquels. On the Clone Wars DVD Filoni even says that George read (and enjoyed) the EU comics so much, man of them influenced the development of the show. Have a good one my friend!
+Star Wars Is Awesome no. Lucasfilm stated that. George never commented on canon. He just grouped it into 3 pairs, hystory, Lucas Films story, and the fan fiction that was out there.
Hey matt are u a part of the "Jedi Council Forums"? If not, u should really be a part of it, u can really make an impact and someone we can really rally around. I love the forums they have and just talking about the Expanded Universe be it books, comics or videogames.
I'm not part of any forums but it sounds like fun. Perhaps once I'm done delivering my message I may just join that. Please let like-minded folks know of people like me and others that are out there standing up for the EU. The more of us there are, the better!
I'm not part of any forums but it sounds like fun. Perhaps once I'm done delivering my message I may just join that. Please let like-minded folks know of people like me and others that are out there standing up for the EU. The more of us there are, the better!
Matt wilkins Forums are fantastic and another great way to get ur message out. U think were dedicated, these guys are on a whole other level of dedication to the EU. But I will def get ur message out. Do you mind if I use a couple of ur vids and put them up on some of the forums threads?
The old EU was never taken away from you. Behind you you have an entire bookshelf full of EU books. You can still enjoy them. Times have passed, the company changed hands, and SW hardcores are a minuscule minority. A multi-national corporation like Disney isn't going to cater to such a small number of people if it conflicts with their plans for their property. It's simple business management. Lucas may have cared for the EU, but it's no longer considered official cannon. These stories that have fueled your love of SW are just a few feet away from you. It's not as if Disney's going around gestapo style and burning them. Maybe it's time for you guys to mature a bit.
If you love something enough, you'll fight to have it back. You wouldn't understand because it hasn't happened to you. But you can't judge others for wanting something different from you. All we're asking for is a continuation of the EU story line under the Legends banner. Your bullying tactics may have worked on the playground my friend but this is real life. Here, folks are welcome to fight for the things they love, whether it's hobbies, sports, politics or Expanded Universes. No one's asking you to sing the EU's praises, just respect for the things we loved best about the franchise.
Matt wilkins One of my favorite films is Waterworld, a movie that obviously has a very small following. If I, and a couple friends, were to start sending mail, calling Universal Studios, and uploading videos on CZcams pleading for them to make a sequel it just won't happen. I can whine all day about it, attempt to barter with this deity or that, or just accept that there won't be any more Waterworld films. Which of those choices is the adult one? There is always a chance that they'll continue producing some Legends material here and there, and the EU has already had a major impact on the franchise. We've had 30+ years of EU material, it's had a good run. What more could you ask for? There's always the chance that the new stuff will surpass the old in quality, not a certainty but definitely a possibility. Nobody, especially me, is saying that you can't fight for what you want, but unless you can convince a corporation the size of Disney that continuing Legends is a sound, profitable, venture there are little chances of it happening. Companies like that just don't care about the fanbase all that much, especially the hardcores within that fanbase. As bad as it sounds. Calling me a bully makes you a bit of a hypocrite as you seem to attack those who don't fervently agree with you. Most people, including myself, considered the EU as good supplemental material. It's there if you want it, but not necessary to enjoy the franchise.
Gianluca Bucci no one who loves the EU enough is going to give up so quickly my friend. It's only been 2 months and I hope you fight longer for Waterworld than that. (I loved me some Waterworld) Fans who fought for the TV show Jericho got an extra season. And Firefly fans got a movie after petitioning for 5 years straight so I wouldn't say this is a lost cause by any means. I liked The Postman too but Kevin Costner couldn't get any love back in the day could he?
@@bullrun2772 Oh look it's the "Wow cun peepul juzt bee ruhspectful lul!" snowflake hypocrite that blocked me on Twitter just for pointing out to him that I like some of the new canon like the High Republic lol.
"They lack emotional intelligence"
No, they just lack intelligence.
I'm very mad about it being a seventh film. One through six should've been the only thing and the rest in the star wars universe was for the EU. Disney are just hungry for money.
That or they should of done a sequel after the books or just adaptation.
Most people who hate the Vong invasion hate it because Chewbacca died.
I agree, they are just butt hurt about his death and can't get over the fact they had the guts to kill Chewie off. Then they become close minded and don't give New Jedi Order a chance.
Ironinquisitor Which begs the question why the fuck weren't fans loathing when han died and best of all how he went out was so out of character...It shows their hypocrisy at best.
Hypocrisy at its finest. Kill off Chewie they send death threats. When Han and Luke are killed off, nobody bats an eye.
@@psgaming101craup4agreed
Awesome video, man! You said everything and you said it best!
thanks!
When Bionicle was cancelled, Greg Farshety, it's main author, said something very wise. That Lego could not continue it, fans would have to fight tooth and knuckle to keep it alive. I think we'll have to do that as well with the EU.
zillafire101 agreed!
Legacy of the Jedi series was awsome. Rip Darth Caedus
I hate those people too.
The reason why I love ESB was because it was dark. Also for the soundtrack too. And I agree with what you said at the end. It's like any publicity is good publicity.
I just had to make a video responding to some more weak arguments made by casual fans. I may have kind of repeated some things you said already, but it really gets frustrating, annoying and very repetitive to hear the same crap over and over again about "continuity" and "Just keep the Thrawn series."
Amen brother! People have been sharing my videos online and it's been great hearing more and more people respond to them. Remember, even those who oppose us give us a chance to keep the EU fresh in their minds. I LOVE it either way!
i just stumbled on this video and i have to say it feels great to hear someone who feels the same way i do about the eu. i felt like disney has just yelled a huge fuck you to all the fans, authors, and artists who have poured so much into the eu. its great to know im not alone in the galaxy.
Thanks man. If you liked that check out my other videos about the Expanded Universe. I agree, casual fans just don't understand. Check out my discussion with Lord Vader on my (Story Group Propaganda) post. The poor s.o.b. isn't able to give me a single rebuttal for what I'm saying to him.
Funny and sad at the same time.
***** Hello! First off, it's important to remember that casual Star Wars fans know little to nothing about the EU in the first place. This guy sounds like one of them. Here's a few I can think of off the top of my head.
Coruscant was named by Timothy Zahn in Heir to the Empire. Lucas loved the name so much he used it in the films.
Maul's double-bladed lightsaber was an invention of Kevin J Anderson's Jedi Academy series, of which George thought was a wonderful idea and used it in Phantom Menace.
Aayla Secura from the comic books was included in Episode 3 when Lucas saw her on the cover of a book and wanted to include her in the film. Even her Jedi Master Quinlan Vos was mentioned in the film too.
***** Ha ha ha! Don't bother with him then, He's too ignorant to waste your time with my friend. If he can't accept facts then he just wants to pick a fight. Classic lack of Emotional Intelligence, like I said.
***** I doubt he'd argue when he looks the facts I'm presenting, yet if he does I'll give'em hell.
Those do seem like bad reasons to hate on it. The way it was set up it was a breeding ground for an elitist fanbase, but I do feel sorry for the handful of people that really liked the novels and comics (I have a friend who's gone flat out nuts over it).
That's very open minded of you! Wish others were more like that. Let your friend know there are people out there who feel his pain.
Thanks, I wish more people were too lol. But I think closed mindedness is a big part of nerd culture XD. Oh and believe me, he knows lol. In fact he's the reason I discovered your vids in the first place.
You are so right man. As someone who has every book, from kids ones to all the others from Alan Dean foster's a splinter in the mind's eye through now. We INVESTED in this universe which gave momentum to the backers who supported the prequels and now these. They KNEW people were going to buy in because we were already buying into the EU.
I agree with everything you said. Thanks for saying this. I've been so depressed. Every time I see my many book cases packed with Star Wars, my boxes of comics(have all and graphic novels), and my stack of Star Wars games..I feel kicked in the teeth. Posted that on the Star Wars Del Ray Books FB page.
Thanks for posting man. Makes me feel less alone about this.
-Jon
Jon, THANK YOU for joining the cause. Good to hear another massive collector's out there. We'll have to compare collections some time my frIend.
Love live the EU
Definitely! Check out the "Star wars Books" official page by Del Rey. They just responded in a post earlier to a lot of this. Their answer is total crap though. That's where a lot of people are posting about this stuff.
Yeah I saw. They "read"our posts. Unfortunately they didn't listen.
They should just make the new "Legacy" banner a middle finger
Thanks for the video. I like your comment that talking about the EU is what is keeping it alive at this point. I think the goal of getting a response and hopefully a positive response to continuing the now dubbed Legends timeline is a great idea. The fact is we don't know what the new movies will be like. We don't. They might be great! But the EU is what we grew up with and it has made Star Wars what it is today which is much more than a set of 6 movies. I believe many of the EU haters are just finding it easier to part ways with the EU by turning their backs on it. It's the lazy way out and it's more popular. Instead of standing up to changes it's easier to just take it. I appreciate that you have taken a stand.
Thanks for the support man. I'm keeping the topic alive in hopes of getting some traction for Lucasfilm to continue the Legends storyline. The more of us that voice our opinion the better our chances!
Btw, you moved yet? I'd still like to chat with you sometime and compare our EU libraries to see what's missing.
***** there's another video where I talk about what I think the Legends title means. I'm just using their terminology to discuss a point.
I agree with you that the term Legends does not accurately describe the EU
do some people seriously not like dark storylines cuz thats my favorite kind of storyline also empire strikes back is my favorite star wars movie
That's what someone told me why he didn't like it. He said it was too dark.
Yet ask him what his favorite film was and he'll tell you "Empire" every time.
+Matt wilkins I would've thought empire strikes back would be the 2nd or 3rd biggest moneymaker because of its plot twist
+Michael Scott They are too busy repeating Plinkett and his RotS counter that "being dark doesn't make it good". Of course trying to say why ESB is good without saying "dark" is kinda the Achilles heel of that argument.
Clapping. Laughing. Absolutely. Why the heck bother with all these timelines in the books and comics if they weren't trying to be canon or semi canon? The broad strokes were all consistent. It was only tiny details that wasn't. And yet they call US immature. Ironically we are being told to settle for Disney's new kiddie fair and grow up by the same people, practically in the same breath!
Amen to that!
Excellent video. CW multi-media project > TCW.
I really want to get into the expanded universe but i could never get into the Zahn books. where is a good place to start.....other than the thrawn trilogy. On the topic of the video, i totally agree with you guys. There was a point that Matt made in another video that really resonated with me. He argued that disney could have made a movie set 200 years in the future. I think that would have been far more creative than rehashing the stormtroopers as the main bad guys again.
Ok, is there another era in Star Wars that interest you? The Darth Bane trilogy is good. Or in the Post-Jedi era you have the X-wing novels and Shadows of the Empire.
Matt wilkins I started reading the cloak of deception which takes place before phantom menace. I am really enjoying it. I want to get into what happened after Return of the Jedi too. Thank you for the suggestions I will definitely look into the x-wing series!
glad I could help!
My cousin argued to me that lore doesnt matter and that reboot is an old hollywoord trait. THe only thing he argued against in my EU is canon rant. I said our life time is old but media wise reboot is a young trend that I hope will die. I have to admit for 30 years of star wars, it never had a death date. With Disney in control it does now and its sad. Itll trend and itll die.
Agreed. But I'm hoping they will hear our requests to continue the (now labled) Legends timeline.
Matt wilkins They should do what they did back in the day with Batman. No the reboots but the multiverses. Help people follow the new canon with movies but still continue the old ones with movies as well.
Agreed. I really don't see any reason why not. Seriously, DC and Marvel as well as few other franchises do it all the time in regards to having alternate continuities going on at once.
I personally don't like a lot of the EU, but if you like it then I will not argue
It's your opinion
Thats an okay opinion. How much have you actually read? Just curious.
@@bullrun2772 Because often you hear people crap on the EU despite barely having read any of it.
Great video. It's always strange to hear that many people didn't like The Empire Strikes Back initially when it's now generally considered the best Star Wars film and possibly one of the best films ever made. Especially when what they didn't like was the best part of the movie.
I am not a facebook member, but if that was the only way to read new legends stories I would join just for that.
how do you feel about Disney now?
Disney Star Wars is not for me. The Marvel movies are fun popcorn films, worth watching once and Disney World is a fun place to visit.
Did that answer your question? : )
I used to be a big EU hater. I hated it almost from the beggining. I sort of liked Timothy Zahn's Thrawn books, But everything after that I didnt like for so many years. I've changed my mind on the expanded universe completely.
Wow! Awesome. If I my ask, what changed your mind?
@@kidcardco I got to new jedi order and it blew my mind. A huge improvement over most of the bantam stuff in my mind.
@@nucleartacos3095
it's a good series, no doubt!
Finally someone who admits TESB wasnt godlike at release.
Love ya bro! these haters are so stupid!
i could agree 100% with you, if you can ask me one question... where i can find this "haters"? theres vlogs, or blogs, or rants, or facebook pages, hashtag, where? can you give me a link or even proofs? because every time i find hate coments they always talk about the prequels, the force awakens, or even the original trilogy when they said that the pequels or the EU is better, i never found people who despise the EU as they despise the movies.. i just saying
lol. check my comments on CZcams for starters. Since this post is a year old a lot of the comments should be buried in their history but you can always check out the "Eff the EU" Facebook page. Warning: They are racist and VERY offensive at times.
Then of course you can look through Google's history for news about the EU (late 2012) and read every negative article on the EU (which triggered these videos in the first place)
Also, continue to check out Facebook for continous abuse. (the Internet is a terrible place sometimes) I can't post any of it, due to some of the racist and "phobic" comments they post but it's pretty harsh stuff people have to deal with on both sides. It's not as "one sided" as folks have you think.
Thanks for the comment!
Matt wilkins why i should bother that most haters of the EU are "racist" and "phobic", even thought most star wars fanboys hate that disney put political correctness in the star wars universe? oh yeah when someone hate the diversity in the real life is bad, but when disney put diversity in the star wars universe you said that is SJW propaganda...
i don't know who is the enemy anymore, i don't know how i must to fell anymore, and i don't know what is star wars anymore. lucas didn't kill it, disney didn't kill it, the entire fandom kill it
@@motor4X4kombat
I guess it's the fandom that creates shitty movies, unwatchable animated series, cancels planned videogames and makes cashgrab mediocre-at-best videogames.
And how are EU fans racist? I've seen that remark being thrown around without backing or context
@@HonestHappyHater hey don't look at me, he say it. Even though the haters of the new canon are guilty of this shit too
I will thanks!
So you're fine with them continuing the legends while it's not canon?
Of course! I'd want things between the new and old canon to stay seperate. The latter with the "Legends" banner.
Matt wilkins Something else I wanted to ask you:
So the EU was never actually in canon with the movies? It was like on its own? (Sorry, I'm new to legends. And am kinda stupid when it comes to it...)
+Star Wars Is Awesome no man, you're questions perfectly fine.
The EU was C-canon with the movies. C-canon means it was in continuity with the films.
George even added several aspects from the EU to the prquels.
On the Clone Wars DVD Filoni even says that George read (and enjoyed) the EU comics so much, man of them influenced the development of the show.
Have a good one my friend!
Matt wilkins OOh, I thought in the video you said it was a separate continuity from the films? So George Lucas said the EU was canon?
+Star Wars Is Awesome no. Lucasfilm stated that. George never commented on canon. He just grouped it into 3 pairs, hystory, Lucas Films story, and the fan fiction that was out there.
Hey matt are u a part of the "Jedi Council Forums"? If not, u should really be a part of it, u can really make an impact and someone we can really rally around.
I love the forums they have and just talking about the Expanded Universe be it books, comics or videogames.
I'm not part of any forums but it sounds like fun. Perhaps once I'm done delivering my message I may just join that. Please let like-minded folks know of people like me and others that are out there standing up for the EU. The more of us there are, the better!
I'm not part of any forums but it sounds like fun. Perhaps once I'm done delivering my message I may just join that. Please let like-minded folks know of people like me and others that are out there standing up for the EU. The more of us there are, the better!
Matt wilkins Forums are fantastic and another great way to get ur message out. U think were dedicated, these guys are on a whole other level of dedication to the EU. But I will def get ur message out.
Do you mind if I use a couple of ur vids and put them up on some of the forums threads?
Absolutely not! That's what we need to keep spreading our message across. Go for it!
Matt wilkins So u dont want me to put up ur vids on the forums?
lol emotional intelligence, irony
But Karen Traviss sucks tho, that's one of the only things in the EU that I despise.
The old EU was never taken away from you. Behind you you have an entire bookshelf full of EU books. You can still enjoy them. Times have passed, the company changed hands, and SW hardcores are a minuscule minority. A multi-national corporation like Disney isn't going to cater to such a small number of people if it conflicts with their plans for their property. It's simple business management. Lucas may have cared for the EU, but it's no longer considered official cannon. These stories that have fueled your love of SW are just a few feet away from you. It's not as if Disney's going around gestapo style and burning them. Maybe it's time for you guys to mature a bit.
If you love something enough, you'll fight to have it back. You wouldn't understand because it hasn't happened to you. But you can't judge others for wanting something different from you.
All we're asking for is a continuation of the EU story line under the Legends banner.
Your bullying tactics may have worked on the playground my friend but this is real life. Here, folks are welcome to fight for the things they love, whether it's hobbies, sports, politics or Expanded Universes.
No one's asking you to sing the EU's praises, just respect for the things we loved best about the franchise.
Matt wilkins One of my favorite films is Waterworld, a movie that obviously has a very small following. If I, and a couple friends, were to start sending mail, calling Universal Studios, and uploading videos on CZcams pleading for them to make a sequel it just won't happen. I can whine all day about it, attempt to barter with this deity or that, or just accept that there won't be any more Waterworld films. Which of those choices is the adult one?
There is always a chance that they'll continue producing some Legends material here and there, and the EU has already had a major impact on the franchise. We've had 30+ years of EU material, it's had a good run. What more could you ask for? There's always the chance that the new stuff will surpass the old in quality, not a certainty but definitely a possibility.
Nobody, especially me, is saying that you can't fight for what you want, but unless you can convince a corporation the size of Disney that continuing Legends is a sound, profitable, venture there are little chances of it happening. Companies like that just don't care about the fanbase all that much, especially the hardcores within that fanbase. As bad as it sounds.
Calling me a bully makes you a bit of a hypocrite as you seem to attack those who don't fervently agree with you. Most people, including myself, considered the EU as good supplemental material. It's there if you want it, but not necessary to enjoy the franchise.
Gianluca Bucci no one who loves the EU enough is going to give up so quickly my friend. It's only been 2 months and I hope you fight longer for Waterworld than that. (I loved me some Waterworld)
Fans who fought for the TV show Jericho got an extra season. And Firefly fans got a movie after petitioning for 5 years straight so I wouldn't say this is a lost cause by any means.
I liked The Postman too but Kevin Costner couldn't get any love back in the day could he?
SMALL? I've seen the statistics. You don't make billions off the books alone off a 'small' number of fans. And they have.
WildHorseFantasy small compared to the amount of casual star wars fans my frIend. But you're right. Clarification should have given there. Thanks!
A lot of the EU is absolute crap
lol how much of it have you actually read?
@@bullrun2772 Oh look it's the "Wow cun peepul juzt bee ruhspectful lul!" snowflake hypocrite that blocked me on Twitter just for pointing out to him that I like some of the new canon like the High Republic lol.