Didn't do as well as I was hoping, but still wanted to get some new content on the channel! Here are some notes to supplement the video since without a script I sometimes misspeak and forget stuff: - This was an AGOV regional the first Saturday of 2024. - I may have gotten my round 6 and 7 order swapped, not 100% sure. - Against the FK Diabellestar that I beat, I think it was probably 2-1 but I can't remember how I lost Game 2. To the best of my recollection everything I said is an accurate estimation though. - I think at 6:15 I meant never used Droll. I definitely saw it at least once but I didn't activate it then. There's a chance I used the effect once but don't remember for sure. - At 10:30 I meant to say "second and last" die roll. - At 11:55 I checked and it was 8th-21st had the same record. - I was tired and coughing for some reason so sorry for clearing my throat so much lol. - This Deck in TOTAL costs about $120 even! Still very budget! The most expensive cards like Fenrir are also not mandatory in my opinion. Thanks for watching and as always, feel free to ask about specific cards or matchups and I'll do my best to answer!
Thanks a bunch! I got my 2024 invite at a regional I went to last year so almost didn't want to take this one up but figured I'd play it out if close. Appreciate the comment!
Thanks so much! I'm not sure top 17 would count as "a top" since it's not top 8, but glad to get the invite at such a tough regional. I think VW is going to well-positioned next format for sure. Especially if the Rollback variant proves to be the optimal way to play, I think it has better matchups into the meta than it historically has. It's still underpowered and a little less consistent compared to meta Decks but it may be the best it's ever been in a while starting next week.
That's a great deck. I've been wanting to build this for some time. My only concern is pot of desires. I barely tolerate using one in my Swordsoul deck, but 3 is crazy as my biggest concern with that card is banishing cards you may need.
The card is pretty much always good. Sometimes it's the only top Deck that keeps you alive. In 42, you're unlikely to banish everything good. If you're super scared, you can play around it 99% of the time first by dumping a Qinglong or activating an E Tele or something and THEN activating it. You want to avoid starting with it, similar to with Swordsoul. But at the end of the day, resolving it once shouldn't matter too much. You play Nyan for the shuffle back as well.
I also went with VW to my regional but performed terrible. Bricked so much, lost dieroll most of the times and all the time they draw the out. Well the thing is that I wasn't playing the most optimal build. I was running even more bricky engines what was not really good at the end. It gave me one duelwin but not a whole match. Well 2 times I also made game loosing missplays so I could do better. Once I even lost to a resonator deck. Well I don't mean that it's a bad deck but it was really painfull to lose against that. Congratulation to your rop btw
Thanks! VW is a very difficult Deck to play and honestly even if you play perfectly you can still lose to bricks and better Decks pretty easily. I feel like I played perfectly in one of the matches I lost and in the other I think I could've done something differently but not sure if it was even correct or winning me the game. It'll take practice and at large events you'll definitely have to run an optimal, consistent list. Good luck with it in the future! Hope these videos are able to help spur ideas as well.
First of all: congrats on the invite! I'm about to start playing VW on paper so stuff like this is very encouraging. I have a few questions if you don't mind: 4:15 You talked about Totem Bird not being generic enough, what could you swap for it? Maybe Bamboozling Gossip Shadow or Cicada King? Longlong seems fine too if not playing Lars, it's very expensive and rare to find where I live. Is the Full Armored XYZ line not worth it? I saw your other comment about playing it in a bigger deck, but how big do you think it should be? Any thoughts on Malong lines? For supporting engines what would you recommend? I've saw deck profiles using P.U.N.K., Speedroids and Adventurer Have you tried any of the zombie stuff with VW this format? Saw a few deck profiles but I feel all the Zombie World part does is hit Labrynth and blank a few Fire Kings this meta; Eldlich seems fine at least and with easy Immortal Dragon access you open a few extra Baronne lines.
Love all the questions! Thank you for commenting. I'll try hit them one by one: - To replace Totem Bird my top 3 options would be Break Sword, Jaja, or Xyz Armor Torpedo. Longlong isn't generic enough unfortunately but is a perfectly good replacement for Fortune Tune. - If not playing Lars, I think Beatrice or Utopia Beyond are good options still. It kind of comes down to your play style too and what comes up the most. If you're playing two Rank 3s, there's a world where you could consider a Downerd. - Full Armored Xyz line is definitely good but I'm not convinced it adds enough to justify the brick and extra Deck space. It did well for me when I played it but the only time I took it to a big event I lost 8/9 die rolls so it wasn't doing me many favors. I played pretty much the exact same build but with 43 cards instead. - I prefer pure. I think it's a little harder to play and sometimes weaker but more versatile. Right now, I think Transaction Rollback or regular will be the best versions. Playing packages like Adventure, Speedroid, and Armored Xyz are more format dependent imo. I'm thinking with Fenrirs at 3 and Droll so popular, none of those are optimal right now. - I kinda hate Malong because it takes 3 monsters to make one Baronne... But I think it may be necessary next format. So far I haven't liked it at all but to protect Beatrice it might be optimal. - I haven't tried any of the zombie stuff. I've seen it and I think it's good. I just haven't played with it. It's definitely not necessary but I could see it being cracked in a certain meta. Hope all that helps! Enjoy the Deck and let me know what you think! It's very hard to play perfectly but it's rewarding imo. Hope you stick around! If you have any other questions or ideas, feel free to share!
@@bobonomics Thanks for answering my questions! I've only been able to do tests with proxies for now since I'm still missing a few cards in paper. The Armored stuff have been kinda nice, Droll does hit it pretty hard though. Was kinda sad that Snatch Steal didn't proc Dark Knight Lancer effect to attach though, would've been a fun interaction. The zombie lines have been helping a bunch against Droll and getting over some stuff like Zeus with the 3.5K Eldlich, specially since I've yet to find a Utopia Beyond.
@@Nesetera Glad I could help! The zombie stuff sounds interesting! And yeah snatch steal will only trigger Dark Knight if your opponent uses it to steal another monster you control. It'll pretty much never come up. Good luck with the Deck though and thanks again for commenting and following.
Thoughts on running the adventure package along with armoured xyz’s? Fenrir obviously a smaller engine that helps make an easier baron but I liked the card cycling with water enchantress and avoiding discards with dracoback. Thoughts!
Similar to another reply, I think Adventure VW has its place in this format. It may even be better than pure. With Armored Xyz, the extra Deck gets tighter AND of course you add another brick. But I think that variant may be the strongest VW variant. My main concern is that it is less consistent than pure and plays harder into handtraps like Droll and Lock Bird. So it's a little more glass cannony, but definitely could play it and get similar results.
Hey man great profile, can you do test hands / a combo video maybe? Or is there a combo vid you recommend? I want to learn this deck but am struggling seeing the lines
I may make a test hand video eventually but it's really hard to actually show it optimally since your discards and what's in the format change what route you go for. It all depends on your other cards, your draws, and what you're playing around. For basic VW combos, I would watch tcgsam old videos. Look up "tcgsam Virtual World combos" you should find a few. The Deck is difficult overall though I think playing with good players and vs meta is the best practice.
NO WAY really?? I considered going to YCS Indy too that sucks one of us could've gotten VW a top. That's still very impressive though. What was your list like? Main Deck skill drain pure version?
No skill drain I was testing it out but wasn’t a huge fan of it. At ycs Indy I was playing a 42 pure card list with handtraps and fenrir. Where the list shined I was siding a Beatrice with zombie world and necroworld banshee and the shufflers. It was a searchable way to deal with a lot of matchup tear, infernoble,floo d-link etc… good stuff rocking vw and on the invite!
@@Kungfukenny187 Nice! Definitely sounds like something I'd be down to play. I'm not a big fan of skill drain but I feel like that's one of the main ways VW gets successful lol. Just cheese people and/or high roll people. Glad to hear your list seemed pretty close to this one. What was your record going into Day 2 do you remember? X-2?
@@bobonomics yeah and it’s a good answer to noire I keep on thinking about trying it out again. Yup I was x-2 at the end a day 1 I lost one match to a brick unfortunately and the other to just getting out played
@@Kungfukenny187 Interesting! Well gl in the future and thanks for sharing 👍🏽 appreciate the engagement always interested to hear about fellow VW players
Thanks! I have considered this for sure. Unfortunately, VW is one of those decks that's a 2-3 card combo Deck where the other cards in your hand greatly affect it. It's pretty non-linear depending on what you want to play around and go for. I may make a test hand video one of these days, but it would probably be off the cuff and not super useful. I normally don't memorize lines and just play it through experience. I'll consider for future though!
Prosp is pretty much only if it's the only card to activate. If you don't want to play Prosp, you can play Small World, FBG, etc. It's kinda my inferior consistency card, but SOMETHING like that is necessary or else you'll brick too much.
How would your deck look if you were using the adventure engine? I played the deck years ago and stopped playing when adventure came out but I'm getting back into yugioh and VW seems fun and i saw some slightly older profiles using adventure
I think Adventure is still good! It's a little brickier and less versatile than the Rollback variants that are about to come out. I would play it pretty similarly to this but definitely play Beatrice in the extra Deck and I'd play a thicker Deck. Right now, I think you could just replace the 3 Desires, 2 Prosp, 1 Ghost Ogre, and 1 Nyan for 2 Water Girl 2 Rite and Gryphon/Fateful/Dracoback. I have an adventure VW list from just last year on this channel! I would check that out. Only thing I would change about that one is probably play more consistency cards and maybe a level 10 or level 7. Feel free to test it out and let me know what you think!
@bobonomics ah gotcha! I'll try out adventure since rollback is going for like 40$ now and I'm not entirely sure how long it is for this world with all the unfun cards it enables
Also just hitting a "you can't play this turn" button isn't very fun to me and I think it subtracts from the reason I play decks, I do play midrange in like every card game I play lol
@@mackayhill825 Fair enough! I think Adventure is a good move then. I would definitely just focus on making it consistent though since I feel that's its biggest problem right now. Good luck and if you figure it anything cool feel free to come back and let us know!
I don't always do 6 is the crazy part! Especially if I'm deep into the game and want to preserve my grind. But if going first I'll usually banish the draw related cards like Charge and Coral + going second cards like Fortune Tune, Lars, Wollow, M7, etc whatever I don't think will come up given my hand. Like if I know I'm going to make Baronne, I'll prob banish the Tzolkin/CW.
It honestly may be better than pure exactly right now. It's better into RACE and Shifter. But I decided to stick with pure since it's easier to build a more consistent version of it. There's pros and cons to both; Adventure is definitely playable right now though so if you like it more I'd go with it. I think Armored Xyz also works well with it but I'd recommend playing a bigger Deck.
Didn't do as well as I was hoping, but still wanted to get some new content on the channel! Here are some notes to supplement the video since without a script I sometimes misspeak and forget stuff:
- This was an AGOV regional the first Saturday of 2024.
- I may have gotten my round 6 and 7 order swapped, not 100% sure.
- Against the FK Diabellestar that I beat, I think it was probably 2-1 but I can't remember how I lost Game 2. To the best of my recollection everything I said is an accurate estimation though.
- I think at 6:15 I meant never used Droll. I definitely saw it at least once but I didn't activate it then. There's a chance I used the effect once but don't remember for sure.
- At 10:30 I meant to say "second and last" die roll.
- At 11:55 I checked and it was 8th-21st had the same record.
- I was tired and coughing for some reason so sorry for clearing my throat so much lol.
- This Deck in TOTAL costs about $120 even! Still very budget! The most expensive cards like Fenrir are also not mandatory in my opinion.
Thanks for watching and as always, feel free to ask about specific cards or matchups and I'll do my best to answer!
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Congrats on the Invite!
Thanks a bunch! I got my 2024 invite at a regional I went to last year so almost didn't want to take this one up but figured I'd play it out if close. Appreciate the comment!
That’s one of my favourite decks It’s so cool that you topped with it congratulations. what do you think going forward?
Thanks so much! I'm not sure top 17 would count as "a top" since it's not top 8, but glad to get the invite at such a tough regional. I think VW is going to well-positioned next format for sure. Especially if the Rollback variant proves to be the optimal way to play, I think it has better matchups into the meta than it historically has. It's still underpowered and a little less consistent compared to meta Decks but it may be the best it's ever been in a while starting next week.
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That's a great deck. I've been wanting to build this for some time. My only concern is pot of desires. I barely tolerate using one in my Swordsoul deck, but 3 is crazy as my biggest concern with that card is banishing cards you may need.
The card is pretty much always good. Sometimes it's the only top Deck that keeps you alive. In 42, you're unlikely to banish everything good. If you're super scared, you can play around it 99% of the time first by dumping a Qinglong or activating an E Tele or something and THEN activating it. You want to avoid starting with it, similar to with Swordsoul. But at the end of the day, resolving it once shouldn't matter too much. You play Nyan for the shuffle back as well.
I also went with VW to my regional but performed terrible. Bricked so much, lost dieroll most of the times and all the time they draw the out.
Well the thing is that I wasn't playing the most optimal build. I was running even more bricky engines what was not really good at the end. It gave me one duelwin but not a whole match. Well 2 times I also made game loosing missplays so I could do better. Once I even lost to a resonator deck. Well I don't mean that it's a bad deck but it was really painfull to lose against that.
Congratulation to your rop btw
Thanks! VW is a very difficult Deck to play and honestly even if you play perfectly you can still lose to bricks and better Decks pretty easily. I feel like I played perfectly in one of the matches I lost and in the other I think I could've done something differently but not sure if it was even correct or winning me the game. It'll take practice and at large events you'll definitely have to run an optimal, consistent list. Good luck with it in the future! Hope these videos are able to help spur ideas as well.
@@bobonomicsYes, I definiately learned some things. It is more than unnecessary to run engines. Just staples. I need 3 Fenrir. 😅
Thank you anyway!
First of all: congrats on the invite! I'm about to start playing VW on paper so stuff like this is very encouraging.
I have a few questions if you don't mind:
4:15 You talked about Totem Bird not being generic enough, what could you swap for it? Maybe Bamboozling Gossip Shadow or Cicada King? Longlong seems fine too if not playing Lars, it's very expensive and rare to find where I live.
Is the Full Armored XYZ line not worth it? I saw your other comment about playing it in a bigger deck, but how big do you think it should be?
Any thoughts on Malong lines?
For supporting engines what would you recommend? I've saw deck profiles using P.U.N.K., Speedroids and Adventurer
Have you tried any of the zombie stuff with VW this format? Saw a few deck profiles but I feel all the Zombie World part does is hit Labrynth and blank a few Fire Kings this meta; Eldlich seems fine at least and with easy Immortal Dragon access you open a few extra Baronne lines.
Love all the questions! Thank you for commenting. I'll try hit them one by one:
- To replace Totem Bird my top 3 options would be Break Sword, Jaja, or Xyz Armor Torpedo. Longlong isn't generic enough unfortunately but is a perfectly good replacement for Fortune Tune.
- If not playing Lars, I think Beatrice or Utopia Beyond are good options still. It kind of comes down to your play style too and what comes up the most. If you're playing two Rank 3s, there's a world where you could consider a Downerd.
- Full Armored Xyz line is definitely good but I'm not convinced it adds enough to justify the brick and extra Deck space. It did well for me when I played it but the only time I took it to a big event I lost 8/9 die rolls so it wasn't doing me many favors. I played pretty much the exact same build but with 43 cards instead.
- I prefer pure. I think it's a little harder to play and sometimes weaker but more versatile. Right now, I think Transaction Rollback or regular will be the best versions. Playing packages like Adventure, Speedroid, and Armored Xyz are more format dependent imo. I'm thinking with Fenrirs at 3 and Droll so popular, none of those are optimal right now.
- I kinda hate Malong because it takes 3 monsters to make one Baronne... But I think it may be necessary next format. So far I haven't liked it at all but to protect Beatrice it might be optimal.
- I haven't tried any of the zombie stuff. I've seen it and I think it's good. I just haven't played with it. It's definitely not necessary but I could see it being cracked in a certain meta.
Hope all that helps! Enjoy the Deck and let me know what you think! It's very hard to play perfectly but it's rewarding imo. Hope you stick around! If you have any other questions or ideas, feel free to share!
@@bobonomics Thanks for answering my questions! I've only been able to do tests with proxies for now since I'm still missing a few cards in paper.
The Armored stuff have been kinda nice, Droll does hit it pretty hard though. Was kinda sad that Snatch Steal didn't proc Dark Knight Lancer effect to attach though, would've been a fun interaction.
The zombie lines have been helping a bunch against Droll and getting over some stuff like Zeus with the 3.5K Eldlich, specially since I've yet to find a Utopia Beyond.
@@Nesetera Glad I could help!
The zombie stuff sounds interesting! And yeah snatch steal will only trigger Dark Knight if your opponent uses it to steal another monster you control. It'll pretty much never come up. Good luck with the Deck though and thanks again for commenting and following.
Thoughts on running the adventure package along with armoured xyz’s? Fenrir obviously a smaller engine that helps make an easier baron but I liked the card cycling with water enchantress and avoiding discards with dracoback. Thoughts!
Similar to another reply, I think Adventure VW has its place in this format. It may even be better than pure. With Armored Xyz, the extra Deck gets tighter AND of course you add another brick. But I think that variant may be the strongest VW variant. My main concern is that it is less consistent than pure and plays harder into handtraps like Droll and Lock Bird. So it's a little more glass cannony, but definitely could play it and get similar results.
Hey man great profile, can you do test hands / a combo video maybe? Or is there a combo vid you recommend? I want to learn this deck but am struggling seeing the lines
I may make a test hand video eventually but it's really hard to actually show it optimally since your discards and what's in the format change what route you go for. It all depends on your other cards, your draws, and what you're playing around.
For basic VW combos, I would watch tcgsam old videos. Look up "tcgsam Virtual World combos" you should find a few. The Deck is difficult overall though I think playing with good players and vs meta is the best practice.
Sounds good thanks!
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I went day 2 with vw at ycs Indy but ended up over sleeping and missed the first round of day 2 deck is fun still playing it
NO WAY really?? I considered going to YCS Indy too that sucks one of us could've gotten VW a top. That's still very impressive though. What was your list like? Main Deck skill drain pure version?
No skill drain I was testing it out but wasn’t a huge fan of it. At ycs Indy I was playing a 42 pure card list with handtraps and fenrir. Where the list shined I was siding a Beatrice with zombie world and necroworld banshee and the shufflers. It was a searchable way to deal with a lot of matchup tear, infernoble,floo d-link etc… good stuff rocking vw and on the invite!
@@Kungfukenny187 Nice! Definitely sounds like something I'd be down to play. I'm not a big fan of skill drain but I feel like that's one of the main ways VW gets successful lol. Just cheese people and/or high roll people. Glad to hear your list seemed pretty close to this one. What was your record going into Day 2 do you remember? X-2?
@@bobonomics yeah and it’s a good answer to noire I keep on thinking about trying it out again. Yup I was x-2 at the end a day 1 I lost one match to a brick unfortunately and the other to just getting out played
@@Kungfukenny187 Interesting! Well gl in the future and thanks for sharing 👍🏽 appreciate the engagement always interested to hear about fellow VW players
I'd love to see a combo video
Thanks! I have considered this for sure. Unfortunately, VW is one of those decks that's a 2-3 card combo Deck where the other cards in your hand greatly affect it. It's pretty non-linear depending on what you want to play around and go for. I may make a test hand video one of these days, but it would probably be off the cuff and not super useful. I normally don't memorize lines and just play it through experience. I'll consider for future though!
I wouldnt use prosp in the deck its a good card but u cant recoup ur card advantage without the draws from ur level 6 synchro
Prosp is pretty much only if it's the only card to activate. If you don't want to play Prosp, you can play Small World, FBG, etc. It's kinda my inferior consistency card, but SOMETHING like that is necessary or else you'll brick too much.
How would your deck look if you were using the adventure engine? I played the deck years ago and stopped playing when adventure came out but I'm getting back into yugioh and VW seems fun and i saw some slightly older profiles using adventure
I think Adventure is still good! It's a little brickier and less versatile than the Rollback variants that are about to come out. I would play it pretty similarly to this but definitely play Beatrice in the extra Deck and I'd play a thicker Deck. Right now, I think you could just replace the 3 Desires, 2 Prosp, 1 Ghost Ogre, and 1 Nyan for 2 Water Girl 2 Rite and Gryphon/Fateful/Dracoback.
I have an adventure VW list from just last year on this channel! I would check that out. Only thing I would change about that one is probably play more consistency cards and maybe a level 10 or level 7. Feel free to test it out and let me know what you think!
@bobonomics ah gotcha! I'll try out adventure since rollback is going for like 40$ now and I'm not entirely sure how long it is for this world with all the unfun cards it enables
Also just hitting a "you can't play this turn" button isn't very fun to me and I think it subtracts from the reason I play decks, I do play midrange in like every card game I play lol
@@mackayhill825 Fair enough! I think Adventure is a good move then. I would definitely just focus on making it consistent though since I feel that's its biggest problem right now. Good luck and if you figure it anything cool feel free to come back and let us know!
What 6 cards do you banish when u activate prosperity
I don't always do 6 is the crazy part! Especially if I'm deep into the game and want to preserve my grind. But if going first I'll usually banish the draw related cards like Charge and Coral + going second cards like Fortune Tune, Lars, Wollow, M7, etc whatever I don't think will come up given my hand. Like if I know I'm going to make Baronne, I'll prob banish the Tzolkin/CW.
Do you think adventure virtual world is still valid? I love that deck and I honestly thinks its better than pure..
It honestly may be better than pure exactly right now. It's better into RACE and Shifter. But I decided to stick with pure since it's easier to build a more consistent version of it. There's pros and cons to both; Adventure is definitely playable right now though so if you like it more I'd go with it. I think Armored Xyz also works well with it but I'd recommend playing a bigger Deck.
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