Legends Hoenn - The Game that won't EVER happen!
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I am sure that legends Hoenn game is a guarantee to never happen at this point. But lets explore what it COULD loook like as well as regional variants for the Hoenn starters. Looking at some husian form like evolutions and for other regional variant fakemon
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Torkanitro (tortise+Volcano+Nitro)
Terawhish (Terra+whisker)
In theory, the first meteorite that has fallen is Jirachi who slept for a thousand years as Deoxys is the current meteor as of the events in ORAS. Jirachi can displace objects in real time to grant wishes, but it was never clearly stated that it can displace objects in different time periods. If legends Hoenn were to happen, it'd be to stop the current combat between Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon after Jirachi the first meteor falls. Jirachi would be seen as the enemy entering their domain. In this period You'd be adopted into the Draconids upon first settling to this land who have only interacted with Rayquaza (Primal Form) and have never knew there was a Groudon or Kyogre. In this Legends game, it would be Rayquaza in deep slumber and there would be another 2 tribes. The Tribe of Aqua and the tribe of Magma at war with each other and knew of their primal gods existence. During this period, there would be intense climate shifts causing different adaptations to various pokemon to appear. Making them the Hoenn version of displaced pokemon. You'd have things like Water Trapinch or Sea Numel etc. Instead of the Space time Distortions. You'd probably have something called Climate Displacement Zones.
This is how I'd imagine Legends Hoenn would go.
torkoal's evolution Tordesite from TORtoise and anDESITE a type of volcanic rock.
It's Ability Igneous body think well baked body but raises the special defence instead. Igneous rock is the lava that turns into new land.
Contaminated pokemon! The gimmick that can only be used one day after obtaining. Bacteria form extra tentacle-like limbs to grab, immobilise the opponent and drain their HP
Name it Volcantorise -The volcanonic turtle pokemon
Volcano-tortoise-rise/ rising out of the ocean like a moving volcano.
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I love that you went for a region that ISN'T a likely candidate for that kind of treatment any time soon!
Feel like it allows for much more creativity than when trying to predict the most likely official one
What are the chances Legends Alola would happen?
Honestly? We’ll get a legends: Alola before a legends: Hoenn
@@leonardofarias8843 I can see Alola having big water sections where you sail around wind waker style on a Pokemon. There’s a lot of Alolan lore to work with too.
Honestly, I'd really like to have a legends paldea game
Laverhead makes sense for the Torkoal evolution, based on Loggerhead Sea Turtles and lava. Also I think the dragon starters might look better if rather than them all having the same basic dragon body, Swampert gets a more sea serpentine body that is bulkier, and Sceptile gets a western dragon one.
Give Blaziken a form closer the the Eon Pokemon too, all 3 looking more like variant species of the Megas. They already feel different enough "lore wise" and in appearance to be separate mons
The draconids are the most interesting part of Pokemon lore. My biggest wish for a legends game would be for them to appear in person, whether that be in Johto or Hoenn, having the Unknown tie in would be the bow on top for me. Absolutely love the Cramorant fakemon by the way haha.
Nice to see a new fresh take from the pokemon community. Legends Hoenn is an actually cool idea (if it wasn't so unlikely)
w thanks ^_^
This is a cool concept, and the dragon starters are pretty sick, but personally I would've preferred for Legends Hoenn to do what Legends Arceus did and have new regional forms for starters of other regions and just put the Hoenn starters in the wild. That way we could've still had Mega Sceptile, Blaziken, and Swampert.
An ancestor of MANDJTV representing the sky would be hilarious
I think if the Pokémon company did this, they’d make the meteorite-infused forms something the Pokémon had to master, not get rid of. It could act like Mega-Rayquaza as an in-battle power up, but only after you train the Pokémon to take control over it
Should act as a held item that actives when they knock out a Pokemon like battle bond
That idea feels like it's taking the piss out of normal Mega Evolution and making every pokemon sort of Mega Evolve as easily as Rayquaza. It's not Mega evolution per se but the affect as a powerup would be the same.
The Wishcash and Torkoal evolution swap is such a cool idea. And it's been executed beautifully. Truly the evolution they deserve
Torkano for that Torkoal evolution. Torkoal + Volcano. I feel it is simple but works well.
Love it! I had an idea for a future based “legends” game for hoenn, with Jirachi being the main center point with the Regis being the antagonists
I've always found Whiscash to be an extremely underated Pokémon so it's great to see it getting some love here.
Love love love that you guys introduced new concepts and bold themes like the draconic starters and virus forms. So dope guys 💫
Torkoal's evolution - Charchelon (char + the superfamily of sea turtles is named Chelonioidea)
Whiscash's evolution - Teralikash (Tera + Tiktaalik + sh)
0:16 wow the foreshadowing
great effort dude! loving these videos recently :D
Thanks so much ^_^
Took me 25 minutes to watch these videos. They were both awesome. Love the theme for the starters being the traversal. Torkoal getting that much needed evo, meteorite form bosses and open world biomes, heck yeah.
Luv it when u collabe with other poketubers especially Hoops, great job u guys.
That Flygon looks insane, I love how not only is there a Deoxys core in it, the core gave it traits of Groudon. I could see each mon gaining traits from one of the 3, these being "megas" that lead to a Mega Deoxys. Of all the new mons only thing catching me is the starters all being serpentine, mainly as the use of ride Pokemon in PLA was showcasing Hisuian Pokemon. I'm down for giving the Hoenn starters Draconic variants though, I feel like if any "one" Pokemon were to be the sole vehicle it would be either a variant or an entirely new Eon Pokemon. Maybe in the past more could be found appearing in this world than the Jet Dragons (and potentially Togekiss).
What about there only being one Eon Pokemon, being Purple (Leading into the Mega designs), that eventually, due to the events, split up into 2 Pokemon due to its DNA getting altered due to the meteors, but its a process that takes time, but the Purple still being in there, dormant, can only be activated by using a Mega Stone.
I, for one, would love to see a Legends Hoenn game someday! It's neat to learn how the modern regions came to be! That game may answer some questions while making us ask even more questions at the same time. The world of pokemon is a very mysterious place. Anything is possible in the world of pokemon!
Yeah, I definitely think we'll get more Legends games, I can't wait to see what things Pokemon come up with in future games.
“Torkano” looks very cool! I love the idea of all three starters having draconic forms.
Would love to see a legends game focused on the Regis and the civilization that created them as well as claydol
Love this vid. The name for the Torkoal eco could be named as "Shelivius" as its a play on "Shell" as it is a turtle's shell and "Vesuvius" since it could be perceived as a play as that volcano wiped out Pompeii in ancient times and considering this is a Hoenn of an era bygone, it works. The Whiscash evo could be named "Quakcash" as it's a play on the fact it's an evolution of Whiscash but it has the ability to shake the ground, hence its name.
I really like this and especially the starters, very unique concept
Personally, I don’t really like the designs much. They all just look the same but with a different coat of paint and typing, it just seems pretty unoriginal if you ask me. Though the concept is interesting.
@@keiviroque5666 I see what u mean, maybe it's just a bias because mudkips my favorite pokemon and no one's made a legends form of it. But I also really like the concept.
w thank you so much ^_^
I want a Legends Orre game with a Wild West and (positive) native american theme.
Imagine Lugia and Ho-oh being portrayed as harvest deities that bring the sun and the rain.
Imagine shadow pokemon not being artifically evil pokemon but instead having roots in a native american curse that clouds the spirits with anger.
Imagine Mt. Battle as a holy mountain with Ho-oh at the summit with Citadark Isle being sacred ground for Lugia.
Imagine a regional Roggenrola-line that is based on gold-nuggets.
Idk my first thought for the Torkoal evo's name was Unturava. It doesn't really feel like a Torkoal evo name but it sounds really cool and makes sense coming from Under (like underwater) Turtle and Lava
Idea for the torkoal evolution: Maybe, adding immunity to water type attacks, it raises it's defense, because if you hit lava with water, you get more rock. As for a name, maybe something to do with underwater volcanoes. Maybe like Hydrokoal like the term hydrovolcanism?
This makes me really hope we get more legends games soon and legends doesn’t have to always take place in the past it could also take place in the future
OMGI just got so excited when hoops started talking this is amazing
Splendid Video as usual filled with amazing regional variants
Before gen4 I remember seeing cool fanart of Deoxys infected pokemon, this may be the proper form to explore that concept
I recommend naming torkoals evolution "Torkano" (tortoise + volcano)
Molotoise - molten, Molotov and tortoise or Voltoise.
I was thinking something like "Voltorkno" as in volcano, but using part of torkoal's name in the middle for its new evolution. Btw these are some super cool designs and i love the idea of a Legends Hoenn game, especially as its one of my favourite regions
I thought you were taking a break, I still appreciate getting a new video!
I am, in 4 months ^_^
Oh yeah, I forgor
Pterosaur Cramorant is so epic! That Torkoal’s design is also great. That piece of rock on its chin really adds to it’s coolness.
The name I thought of for Whiscash is Namazuliqua and for Torkoal it is Futabasear.
Namazu is an underground catfish that causes earthquakes and liquefaction is an earthquake that turn soil inti mud which is a cool combo and i threw in aqua.
Futabasaurus was the first plesiosaur type sea creature found in japans waters plus sear.
Two of my favorites, going to miss you birdkeeper leader of Team Snooze!
Turkano might be too basic for the Torkoal evo but it gets the job done. Since its more sea dwelling we combine turtle (instead of more land dwelling tortoise) with volcano, and keeping the 'k' instead 'c' in volcano just to keep a spelling convention. Still basic but maybe Turkanic is a bit more epic. Idk if this evo is going to be large but this adds titanic in the naming convention, and volcanic imho is just a cooler word than volcano lol.
Torkool for the Torkoal ecolution. It's very similar and also hints to water being cool (generally), even though the volcanobased pokemon itself wouldn't be
I came up with a legends hoenn game awhile back, called legends rayquaza, came up with a story and everything
The meteorite infections made me think of Smallville. Now I'm imagining Superman as a Pokemon trainer.
The collab we didn't know we needed
Those torkoal and wishcash based evolutions are sick!!
Really great ideas overall guys, would be really interesting to see.
This is something I’d absolutely love to see even if it is unlikely! Fantastic ideas guys! 😁
Thanks mate ^_^
honestly id love if Legends Hoenn happens where Megas are in the game
You know technically if we were to have a prequel to certain Pokemon games it would be more warlike and horror rather than kid-friendly. could be interesting on how they would make such a game and understand what exactly happened during the war. I think one of the more interesting war-like legends games would possibly be Pokemon X and Y due to the events of what exactly the legendaries did during the said time period. In case anyone is wondering about what the x&y legendaries represent yvetal is death, xerneas is life, and zygarde is the balance.
5:54 Swampert as a Water/Dragon Type would be the best regional variation!
An ancient Spinda form would be awesome, especially if he carried around a big bottle of saké!
Wonderful video Toby & Hoops! If we paused the main series and got nothing but Legends games for a while I would be completely happy.
for torkoals evos name i think golavagoes could work pretty well (like golapagoes and lava)
Hoenn has some amazing potential for a legends game, I feel the potential for the meteorite mega boosts could involve the Regis and giving them something akin to the Primal forms and mega Rayray. This could also be a way to explain why they seem to have gone awry a bit from their original purposes and have to be sealed in the tombs. The storyline could be about catching them and taking them to the ancient tombs where the seals at the tomb drains the mega energy away from them and placing them into a slumber helping to explain how they ended up where they were in the modern age. Ingame you can of course return and collect the regis for yourself but lore wise they are always returned and sealed away in the end.
I like the Torkoal Evo, but i cant help but think it looks a bit like a Lapras and Camerupt fell in love and Honeymooned in the daycare centre.
It would be cool if Brandon's Ancestor could be found on an island building a great tower to meet the Sky Guardian, which would tie into the plot or postgame, allowing you to catch Jirachi.
Torkano and Earthscash (my names for Torkoal and Whiscash evos) could have Mega/Primal Forms and Boss Battles as well.
I'd imagine Deoxys could have a Convergent Form coming from an Ultra Wormhole opened by the meteors in the atmosphere. I'd call them Radeox (as radio would have been a new invention at the time) and make it shift forms via Music from specific radio waves.
I did actually expect that you will make the water pokemon a land one and the land one a water one
Gonna miss your video's when your gone Toby if you feel like it hope you find your way back one day! Thanks for the memories
I've been making my own legends hoenn game and i also made it aroud sootopolis' creation and used the same place for begining town coincidentally
Just seeing on my screen the fun they seem to be having i truely think that tobi just needs to gather up as ment poketubers as he can to have a massive collab to be his send off with his friends around him as its a big moment for the community
I suggest the Torcoal evolution be either called:
Taracoal - a combination of "Torcoal" and "Mount Tara", a volcano in Kyushu
Turtacoal - a combination of "turtle" and "coal" (much like how Torcoal's name comes from "tortoise" and "coal"), or
Torcano - a combination of "Turtle", "Torcoal" and "Volcano"
I think thermakoal could work for the torkoal evolution, based on torkoal and thermal from hydrothermal vent, aka underwater volcanos
Torkaldera?
Tbh, i don't mind what you name it, that Torkoal evo is AMAZING. Love it.
you could have a dive style mechanic using something like Araquinid evolution that can share its air bubble with you
Love the Quetzalcoatlus vibefor my favorite water type Cramorant. Also by far my favorite Terrasaur for obvious reasons. Largest flying creature to ever exist on this planet like come on
Well ORAS is probably why Legends Hoenn is the least likely to happen
Yeah ofc
I mean they made legends arceus and bdsp, so they could still make a legends game of hoenn even tho oras exists
since you went with a sea turtle not sure how well it works but have long thought that Galavagos would be a cool name for a torkoal evolution, Galapagos and Lava.
Interestingly enough. The Archie design that inspired the LA ancestors was the one from the OG RSE that we know is different from the universe where AZ, The Draconids, and ORAS take place
One idea that might take some doing, but I’m sure the Pokemon community can do it, is a Legends Alola. And this video proves that anything can be a great idea for a Legends game
Eruptoise & Volcator are two names I got for the Torkoal evolution
For Torkoal's new evolution, I'd suggest the name "Krakatortle" (Krakatoa + turtle) or "Torkoaldera" (Torkoal + caldera)
My name suggestion for the ancient Torkoal evolution is *_Tortorrent_* - keeping the name simple and snappy - *_Tortorrent_* as in *_tortoise + torrent_* , as the word torrent describes a violent flow or a rapid stream of something flowing down, so like a torrent of water or a stream of lava flowing down the precipice of a volcano, like the one on this pokemons back
Torkoal evolution: Torrvent? Torrent (Water where it lives), Torr (due to living at high water pressures which could actually make metamorphic rock), vent (due to being an ocean vent and also venting is something you do in anger which makes fire in some cartoons)
For the Torkoal evolution Koalpagos would be a cool name combining Torkoal with Galapagos
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Thx for making me bust out my Hoenn games!! Lol, hmmm… to play through Emerald or the remakes?
Torkoal evolution name idea: Torbyssal (Torkoal + Abyssal)
Whiscash evo name idea: Whisachus (Whiscash + Clarias Batrachus which is the science name of the Walking Catfish)
Instead of the native hoen starter’s you could have done charmander since it has a dragon mega already to reference for a regional evolution. To be based on a western dragon that specializes in flight.
Then for an eastern dragon you could do snivy that better suited to land. And for water I would go with sobble, and make it a sea dragon. Though totodile or frokie would work too. I just think sobble needs a better evo.
Pacifidlog Town going from being the least significant town (I believe the only entirely optional one?) in RSE/ORAS to being the starting point in a Legends Hoenn game would be so epic
The torkoal evolution is based off a hydrothermal vent and it looks like a lapras so I think it should be called Ventaras
for the torkoal evolution why not volkoalno so it still has the name torkoal but its different n a reference to the volcanic structure on its back :)
I know the first Legends was set in the past, and that other Legends games set in the past would also be welcome, but my thought it, we had a Legends game in the past, then Gen 9 where we had both ancient and futuristic alt Pokemon. So, despite Legends implying something based around the past, a Legends game set in the future to follow up the Past/Future theme and sandwich Gen 9 would be awesome. I wonder what that would look like, especially if it took place in Unova like I keep hearing there are hints of.
Torkoal could become Hydrokoal named after hydrothermal vents that are near underwater volcanoes
I think it's noteworthy that I don't mind the biomes being separate "areas" with fixed transition points rather than a single big open world. They're more like the evolution of routes or collections of routes. I mean, I'm all for being able to seamlessly go from one biome to another after you've unlocked them but I don't require like the sky or sea to be accessible immediately from the start of the game. And after the perf issues of Scarlet & Violet I'm even more supportive of Game Freak breaking the world up in whatever way they need to in order to keep the game performant.
Torchoalon for the torkoal evo, from torch, coal and archelon a prehistoric turtle. and for the whiscash evo Boltrastache from Bolter from the sliderock bolter a cryptid in the US, Batrachus a species of walking catfish and Moustache
This game concept is amazing!! Granted I'm extremely biased because Hoenn is my favorite region, and ancient life forms and dragons are my JAM, but still!! If I could snap my fingers and make this happen, I would in a heartbeat! ❤
9:08 Tureruption (Turtle + Eruption) although this name reminds me of Terapagos
Love the Wishcash evo, if it needs a name too how about Whisking? Because of the crown like design on it's face
It would be interesting to see that the noble Pokemon in a legends Hoenn game would be mega Pokemon that were affected by the radiation of the meteorites. These Pokemon became enraged due to the sudden mega rotorua evolution. It would be a cool way to get new Mega Pokemon.
I feel like they would be way to OP though.
The torkoal eco could be called volkoral (volcano+torkoal+coral)
ideas for the new evolutions: Krakaturtle and Wizcash. Krakatoa and turtle, a pretty obvious pun. but then Wiz for wizard, since he can move thru the mud like magic.
They'd have to do something with regigigas as the main boss. like have the different regis as mini bosses. I don't think there's any chance of them using megas again until they remake xy, and that's gonna be like 20 years from now.
Torkoal could evolve into what could be called Moltuga, name meaning Molten and Tortuga, Spanish for Turtle.
when you said the starters were the same as modern hoenn i was like "lame!" than the dragon forms graced my screen and as someone that is not a fan of the gen 3 starters i have to say thoses are some of the best Fakemon forms i have ever seen.
Ooo I'd call that torcoal evolution Tormal or Turmal. From Thermal vent.
The Torkoal Evolution could be called Snorkoal (as in Snorkel), and Whiscash Evolution could be called Neiscash (as in Gneiss Rocks).
I think those are pretty good names
I like the dragon idea but I wish they were more of their own thing like make them different types of dragons
The Torkoal evo should have should maybe have storm drain to play into the bulky defensive idea or, if you want a new ability, I suggest one that just evaporates water moves on that side if the field like a weaker desolate land(if you did choose this one macargo *NEEDS* it)
Galacano (Galapagos + Volcano) Galapagos because it's where the Galapagos tortoise is from.
Could also reverse it with Volapagos
no lie that torkoal evo has alot of potential as far as use-ability for lore goes. Imagine it being rivals with Lapras 🤔
But can you imagine a legends:kalos game where you would stop the ultimate weapon from firing/wiping out all life?
Koalvent for the Torkoal Evo would be awesome.
Love this Legends concept and the Fakemon. Although, I'm not a fan of the starter dragons... It just doesn't feel right to me. But on a positive note, I absolutely love the Hoennian Cramorant and Trevenant!!!
The torcoal evo should be called torcano or something like that