@@ironduke5058 if you search for autoloader tanks reloading you will see the same thing. Yes, it interferes with acuracy, but it makes the process of loading way easier
@@Flaresau that, but you are also loading a shell that weight 1-2 tons. And with a slight angle on the barrel, you can risk the shell sliding out aginne. And you want the shell to stay still during loading, or you can risk an internal explosion.
0:38 shock and awe incarnate. I've always liked the scenes where the Yamato functions like a surface ship. There's a certain elegance to her -- she has the nice lines of the IJN battleship she was in her old life.
В которой японцы проиграли. Потеряли флот. А сейчас полностью подчиняются американцам которые уничтожили 2 японских города ядерными бомбами. Да в добавок ещё и благодорят американцев которые убивали ваших дедов и прадедов. Сейчас Япония это позор японской империи прошлого.
When you think about it, the Beehive shells that the Yamato used during WWII would be perfect for space, because you don't have air friction to slow down the shrapnel, and there's no gravity that will pull the shrapnel downward, the Shrapnel from the shell will just go everywhere, without stopping, unless it hits something
Lol, thats just stupid. The rounds fired on Battleships traveled 780 m/s. It would take hours to hit anything even relatively close by in space. You can just move out of the way...
@@jmkhenkaTechnically, the shell and the Charge are two different things, and most battleships, especially late war battleships, loaded the Shell and the Charge as separate parts because otherwise the shell would be too long and heavy to store, that or you'd have like, not ammo because you have to, not only move the shells from the bottom of the ship to the top, but be able to fit it inside the elevator that goes up and down the turret ring, so if they did have leftover shells from, literally centuries beforehand, they should use them, but I meant the concept of the shell, of course they would make new ones
@@jmkhenka Also, the type 3 shells are literally physical battleship shells, most likely an AP shell with a fuse function built in, so they would be able to use what ever propellant they use in the show, which, if it was a realistic gun, would probably be a Coilgun of some kind rather than an actual propellant (Coilguns are basically the same as railguns, but how they are set up is slightly different, with the wires used to produce the electromagnetic field being wrapped around the barrel rather than in lines [which is also why railguns are called railguns, as the wires are set up in lines, or rails] making the propellant unimportant, and if they do use a propellant, it doesn't really matter which one they use in reality because space doesn't have air to rip the shell apart, and most of those shells can survive much faster speeds than what they were shot at, and only had the muzzle velocity they had because, during WWII they didn't have as great of charges as we do now, and also, the steel of the barrels wouldn't be able to survive the stress from firing shells that fast (especially not the Yamato considering Japan's steel industry even pre-war)
@@ajeltheflightsimmer Yamato fires the Beehive shells, years later a random piece that has traveled an extraordinary distance smacks a satellite above a recently colonized planet, eventually creating a debris field that renders all wireless communication useless, and makes it impossible to set up new satellites for years until all the debris eventually falls to the surface
I will never stop loving the idea of “futuristic, technologically advanced warship made with alien knowledge, materials and manufacturing methods” versus “old war relic from a bygone era that could still kick ass”. Like “oh your ship can counter energy based weapons and carry countermeasures for homing torpedoes? well parry this then you cocksucker!” as you hurl salvo after salvo of good ol’ Armor Piercing from your now-ancient guns, in varying calibers.
I loved this show as a kid, always felt so possible, like just a few years and we'll retrofit our stuff to be like this. Or it was written by an expert battleship tactician.
@@mundanestuff that should've been impossible is the hull... the reason they used Yamato's hull (lore wise) is that it saved resources as they refit the insides of the old sunken ship, they didn'tneed to build an entire spaceship... in truth Yamato should have been so rusted that it should've collapsed in on itself once the sea evaporated, leaving a scrapheap that you could in time figure out once was a ship.
Take a moment to realize how terrifying Type 3 shells are in Yamato's main battery. The reload speed those things have as displayed during the warp gate fight was nuts.
Random Crew 1 onboard Desslers ship: How are they hitting us?! Random Crew 2: They're shells! They're firing physical cannon shells! Dessler: Terran barbarians!
@@Aereto The amount of energy a high velocity massive shell has is beyond tuning. You will need to dedicated all the power you can gather just to dissipate that 1 shot.
Well a space ship build to combat other space whip with energy weapons would be differently protected then battlewagons that had to survive being hit with a "car a minute". Space ships would have a hull and energy shield that deflect incoming energy charge. While an Physical object... it does what a physical object does!
Fun fact: The Yamato-class battleship, one of the most largest and powerfull battleships in the history of world war 2. She and her sister ship, Musashi, were the heaviest and most powerfully armed battleships ever constructed, displacing nearly 72,000 tonnes (71,000 long tons) at full load and armed with nine 46 cm (18.1 in) Type 94 main guns, which were the largest guns ever mounted on a warship. Yamato's main battery consisted of nine 45-caliber 46-centimetre (18.1 in) Type 94 guns-the largest ever fitted to a warship, although the shells were not as heavy as those fired by the British 18-inch naval guns of World War I. Each gun was 21.13 metres (69.3 ft) long, weighed 147.3 tonnes (162.4 short tons), and was capable of firing high-explosive or armor-piercing shells 42 kilometres (26 mi).[16] Her secondary battery comprised twelve 155-millimetre (6.1 in) guns mounted in four triple turrets (one forward, one aft, two amidships), and twelve 12.7-centimetre (5 in) guns in six twin mounts (three on each side amidships). These turrets had been taken off the Mogami-class cruisers when those vessels were converted to a main armament of 20.3-centimetre (8 in) guns. In addition, Yamato carried twenty-four 25-millimetre (1 in) anti-aircraft guns, primarily mounted amidships. When refitted in 1944 and 1945 for naval engagements in the South Pacific, the secondary battery configuration was changed to six 155 mm guns and twenty-four 127 mm guns, and the number of 25 mm anti-aircraft guns was increased to 162. So this means that this star blazers space yamato battleship is 100 times more stronger than the original Yamato-class battleship itself
@@Stone0911 Well, ww2 era naval was dominated by airplanes and carriers. Battleships was even in the 1940's legacy equipment almost exclusively used to bomb ground targets. Ship on ship warfare was rare and often just accidents. and hitting something out to max range with a gun was more luck then anything.
its such a shame we turned all the Yamato class ships into the largest man made coral reefs, it would have been cool to have the ships as museum ships that we could visit today
The space battle ship Yamato has a ton of space inside the turrets, the original had much less of that, i guess autoloaders of the future help with that.
I think they got the space because they only have to load the shell and not the propellant. Normally there goes 2 or 3 times the volume in propellant into a naval gun. Of course how the guns then fire is than the question. I guess they might use a liquid propellant they squirt in after the breach is closed. That 2 component liquid from Die Hard with a Vengeance would be ideal as this would also reduce the chance of a catastrophic explosion of the powder magazine dramatically.
@@barthoving2053 Maybe, i guess there should be a detailed explaination online. Maybe those shells have some sort of "dial a range" property, like nukes with dial-a-yield. The loading mechanism is also working as breach, which makes things more compact.
They likely use some extremely energetic pressurized liquid bipropellant, like FOOF/RP1, and an inert light gas (for example helium) second stage to get even more muzzle velocity.
I swear there was a version of this compilation hovering around somewhere which included a shot of the crew saluting fallen soldiers while gunners were firing a salute of their own from one of the rear turrets...
The rear turrets cant fire shells.. because they sit right atop a hangar bay and the 2 catapults so there is no room downwards for the shell storage and transport mechanism.. i guess in that scene they were firing some short of energy blanks for effect. they dont seem to be firing anything that goes away..just the ceremonial flash
2:13 Canonically, only the three frontal turrets are armed with the Type 3 Shells. Looking closely, the last two rear turrets are not pointing at Dessler’s ship.
This is why kinetic/ballistic weapons are the most powerful type of guns in space. Also this point is very valid, Sir Isaac Newton is THE DEADLIEST S.O.B. IN SPACE.
I recently picked up the star blazers manga and its really reallly good , one nice thing about the manga is that it has design details on the ships from the series
You will never take that away from me. Kinetic and Ballistics are the only way to go with space weaponries. Lasers? Beams? Ions? Plasma? All that shit can frak off. Big shells, missiles and torpedoes are a man's romance, even in space.
敵「ビーム真っ直ぐしか進まないから鏡みたいなので反射させたろ」
大和「はい実弾曲射」
三式弾当たった時の「ゴォン！」って音、超癖になる！
圧倒的除夜の鐘感
同感！
木星でクリピテラ級に命中させたときの「ゴゴゴンッ」ってのも。
@@fubuki1115煩悩を物理的に祓われそう😂
0:47 ここでの三式弾の砲弾自体に名盤がついてるの細かい。
亜空間ゲートでの三式弾発射のシーンはほんと好き
「ほ、砲弾です!敵は、砲弾で攻撃を!」
おのれ、野蛮人め
ああ、あれは良い。
ヤマトのカッコ良さもさる事ながら、敵側にも滅びの美学があってね。
@@user-zy2eg2sc4jさん
「野蛮人め…」
波動砲の弱点をうまく突いた攻撃でした。
攻撃のために一時的に無防備になるのはヤマト側にとっても分かり切った話で、デスラー総統の理性を欠いた決断ですね
0:49
ここなんで逃げないんだろって思ってたけど、後々砲弾で攻撃するヤマトをデスラーが「野蛮人め…！」って言うのを見てやっとわかった。
砲弾が完全に過去の遺物になってて若い兵士とかは「砲弾」ってものを知らないってことなのかって。
つまりどういう物か知らず上から急に鉄の塊が降ってきた感覚…
言ったら鉄の鉛が古い物なのにかっとんでくるようなもんだからなぁ…（）
今後の異星人襲撃モノのハリウッド映画でアイオワ級戦艦（ぶっちゃけ『ミズーリ』）が反撃する（した）シーンがあるならば、
宇宙戦艦ヤマトに砲弾シーンをインスパイア、オマージュしてほしい。
星巡る方舟のガトランティス戦やってからの、亜空間ゲート内のデスラー戦…ちゃんと時系列順に編集してるのに愛を感じる。
三式弾の信頼度よ。
相手も対策どころか想定すらしてないから刺さる事刺さる事
うーん、これは野蛮人の発想
1941年に竣工した艦に負ける方がおかしい（魔改造済み）
よく考えたらWW2の砲弾を宇宙空間で使うってすげえロマンある
@@Andre-md7jbというか最初から46センチの実弾ならガミラスに無双できたのでは…
クリピテ、ケルカピア、デストリア「実弾は聞いてない」
I love the little details of returning the guns to horizontal position for reloading.
That's real? Why do they do that? It'll probably interfere with accuracy I'd assume
@@ironduke5058I think its because the loading breach of the guns do not vertically rotate with the barrels, requiring them to home back to positions.
@@ironduke5058 if you search for autoloader tanks reloading you will see the same thing. Yes, it interferes with acuracy, but it makes the process of loading way easier
@@Flaresau that, but you are also loading a shell that weight 1-2 tons. And with a slight angle on the barrel, you can risk the shell sliding out aginne. And you want the shell to stay still during loading, or you can risk an internal explosion.
@@ironduke5058 Literally how it's done in real life. Though one might think in sci fi they would have a workaround.
三式弾を再装填するシーン好き
再装填のために砲身下げてるのが細かい
三式弾の当たる時のコンコンコーンって音が好きなんだよな…
浮遊大陸の戦闘でガミラス艦がちゃんと凹む描写、好き😆
2199は戦艦大和に対するリスペクトがあって好きです。宇宙空母に最初に放つ攻撃は3式弾。そしてデスラーとの亜空間での最後の戦いも3式弾。痺れます。
亜空間の3式弾の砲撃は私も感激しました。過去のオリジナルには無かった迫力でしたね！
リスペクトついでに「父ちゃん発動機の音が…」も入れて欲しかった。
ビーム兵器が発達してるから逆に実弾兵器が刺さる
ガンダムはじめいろいろな作品でやられてるけど、やっぱカッコいいよな
ビーム砲もいいけど砲弾攻撃の醍醐味もいいですね。
00:24ぐらいの砲弾で金属が凹む様な描写も。
0:38 shock and awe incarnate. I've always liked the scenes where the Yamato functions like a surface ship. There's a certain elegance to her -- she has the nice lines of the IJN battleship she was in her old life.
2:23 戦艦大和がもし雄姿を見せてくれたとしたら、この光景だったに違いない。
もうそれだけで胸が熱くなった。
宇宙戦艦ヤマトってホント、先の大戦の意趣返しのような描写が多くて好きです。
В которой японцы проиграли. Потеряли флот. А сейчас полностью подчиняются американцам которые уничтожили 2 японских города ядерными бомбами. Да в добавок ещё и благодорят американцев которые убивали ваших дедов и прадедов. Сейчас
Япония это позор японской империи прошлого.
@@DimaTumbler. Avoid vulgar and barbaric language. are you russian?
ドメル艦隊との戦いでヤマトに打ち込まれたミサイル系の兵器の本数と、戦艦大和が菊一号作戦(沖縄特攻作戦：この作戦で大和は沈没)で米軍に打ち込まれた魚雷と爆弾の本数が同じ、というのを聞いたことがある。ネットで聞きかじった情報だから真偽は不明だけど
@@user-wm8hn1en3eマジすか……
2:33 発砲遅延装置が効いてるのがいいね
デスラーの「野蛮人め・・・」は、まったくもって同意（笑）
プーチンです！プーチンが攻めて来ました！
「野蛮人め…！」
勝手に人が住んでる惑星に攻めてくる人達の方が野蛮な希ガス
どっちが野蛮かわからんね
@@nanodesu1984
最初に吹っ掛けたのは地球なんだよなぁ……
しっかり警告はしたんだよなぁ
When you think about it, the Beehive shells that the Yamato used during WWII would be perfect for space, because you don't have air friction to slow down the shrapnel, and there's no gravity that will pull the shrapnel downward, the Shrapnel from the shell will just go everywhere, without stopping, unless it hits something
Some random civilian spaceship: Well I guess I'm screwed.
Lol, thats just stupid. The rounds fired on Battleships traveled 780 m/s. It would take hours to hit anything even relatively close by in space. You can just move out of the way...
@@jmkhenkaTechnically, the shell and the Charge are two different things, and most battleships, especially late war battleships, loaded the Shell and the Charge as separate parts because otherwise the shell would be too long and heavy to store, that or you'd have like, not ammo because you have to, not only move the shells from the bottom of the ship to the top, but be able to fit it inside the elevator that goes up and down the turret ring, so if they did have leftover shells from, literally centuries beforehand, they should use them, but I meant the concept of the shell, of course they would make new ones
@@jmkhenka Also, the type 3 shells are literally physical battleship shells, most likely an AP shell with a fuse function built in, so they would be able to use what ever propellant they use in the show, which, if it was a realistic gun, would probably be a Coilgun of some kind rather than an actual propellant (Coilguns are basically the same as railguns, but how they are set up is slightly different, with the wires used to produce the electromagnetic field being wrapped around the barrel rather than in lines [which is also why railguns are called railguns, as the wires are set up in lines, or rails] making the propellant unimportant, and if they do use a propellant, it doesn't really matter which one they use in reality because space doesn't have air to rip the shell apart, and most of those shells can survive much faster speeds than what they were shot at, and only had the muzzle velocity they had because, during WWII they didn't have as great of charges as we do now, and also, the steel of the barrels wouldn't be able to survive the stress from firing shells that fast (especially not the Yamato considering Japan's steel industry even pre-war)
@@ajeltheflightsimmer Yamato fires the Beehive shells, years later a random piece that has traveled an extraordinary distance smacks a satellite above a recently colonized planet, eventually creating a debris field that renders all wireless communication useless, and makes it impossible to set up new satellites for years until all the debris eventually falls to the surface
昔ながらのショックカノンや波動砲の音が至高だと思っていたが、三式弾の音も素晴らしい。
特に時間差で撃つ時の音が最高。
「カァーン」とか、「ゴォーン」とか、実弾の命中音がいいっす😂
実際の戦艦大和で言うと、砲弾の切り裂く衝撃波が隣弾に影響を与えるので、まず中央ついで0.3秒ずつの間を置いて右、左の砲が発砲する仕組み。
でも砲も音も大きいので一団の轟音として聞こえたとか。
（児島襄「戦艦大和」）
大気が薄いか無いなら三段撃ちする必要も無かったかもしれない。
@@user-dt2sw4xl5w 昔のアニメでは聴くことが無かった効果音ですよね。
製作側がリアルさを追求していった結果、視聴者にとっては意外に感じるような、それでいてリアルな音が完成したのでしょうね😄
@@kamkam_99 三弾撃ちが滅茶苦茶かっこよくて。
意味については初めて知りました、ありがとう。
宇宙空間や亜空間で確認する術はないけど、あの最終決戦なら見栄えを意識して三弾撃ちしてくれたほうが爽快に見れると思います😀
この三式弾の発射音は旧作アニメでも使用されています。
第二話の戦艦大和の最期(坊ノ岬沖海戦)の描写で対空のために大和が主砲を発射した際効果音とのこと。
ショックカノンに似せているのは、大和からヤマトになったことを印象付けるためだとか。
口径の暴力×圧倒的精度×尋常じゃない速射性=死
ビームくんとは覚悟が違うのですよ覚悟が
@@lobotomycorporationsilent8世紀以上も熟成された技術だからなポット出のビームとは年数が違うんだよ
@@user-xs8fc9qi7v大きく重く速い砲弾は最強だとあらゆる戦艦、戦車達が証明している
Ты это авиобомбам в 1 тонну скажи😂 3 бомбы и Ямато на дне океана😂
@@user-zz5hb6ng6x именно поэтому линкорны не строят уже 80 лет, а танки горят от дешёвых дронов😂
I will never stop loving the idea of “futuristic, technologically advanced warship made with alien knowledge, materials and manufacturing methods” versus “old war relic from a bygone era that could still kick ass”. Like “oh your ship can counter energy based weapons and carry countermeasures for homing torpedoes? well parry this then you cocksucker!” as you hurl salvo after salvo of good ol’ Armor Piercing from your now-ancient guns, in varying calibers.
Oh alian that can counter energy and homeing weapons okay, parry this you pleb *fires 18.1inch naval artillery shells at you*
I loved this show as a kid, always felt so possible, like just a few years and we'll retrofit our stuff to be like this. Or it was written by an expert battleship tactician.
Things with mass have way more energy than directed energy weapons. And that's not including explosive charges. lol
Hehe boolet go brrrr
@@mundanestuff that should've been impossible is the hull... the reason they used Yamato's hull (lore wise) is that it saved resources as they refit the insides of the old sunken ship, they didn'tneed to build an entire spaceship... in truth Yamato should have been so rusted that it should've collapsed in on itself once the sea evaporated, leaving a scrapheap that you could in time figure out once was a ship.
ここでは採用されてないけど、南部の「まかせろ！俺は大砲屋だ！」ってセリフが好き。
対デスラー艦の仰角を微調整する砲身の動きも萌える。
アメリカ人にとっては、ミズーリと退役軍人たちがこうなんだろうな。
映画『バトルシップ』における
「痛いのをぶっくらわせてやれ！」
「次弾装填急げ！装薬急げ！」
「撃て！撃ちまくれ！」
「戦艦が簡単に沈むか！」
の様に。
ビーム兵器が主体の宇宙戦で、実弾の三式が無双するのって、シビれますねえ♪
Take a moment to realize how terrifying Type 3 shells are in Yamato's main battery. The reload speed those things have as displayed during the warp gate fight was nuts.
何でこんなに身体中が熱くなるんだろう、これを見せられて熱が灯らない男子はいないだろ
防御を貫通してからの爆発はエネルギー弾にはできない芸当だな
宇宙戦艦ヤマト、時代が進んでリメイクがされるたびに
本来劣化していくはずのものが劣化しないのがすごい
セルにもセルの味があり、CGにもCGの味があるというのを
しっかり見せてくれるというのがこのシリーズのすごいところだと思う
そして、その技術についていくように
その時代の声優さんたちも演技が良いのよね
0:14 0:22 0:37 1:00 2:01 2:58では３門斉射していて着弾に時間差があるような描写ですが、
戦艦大和の主砲は３門を同時に発砲すると砲弾から発生する衝撃波が他の砲弾の弾道に
影響してしまうのと、砲塔の強度が同時発砲２発までしか耐えられないので、
発砲遅延装置により0.3秒位時間差を設けて発砲しました。
1:46 2:13では３門の発砲をずらした描写になっています。
真空の宇宙空間では弾道に影響がないと思いますが、大気圏内・外などの条件で
切り替える設定なのかな。
センチ砲も変わり制御が全てコンピューター制御になったからそこもわかるのかも、砲弾自体も再設計された砲弾なので影響もなく撃てるのかも。撃ち方の違いであの感じなのかも？ショックカノンも同時撃ちと少し遅れて撃ってるから戦況に合わせて撃ってるのかと
砲弾が発する衝撃波で命中率が下がる話は聞いたことがあるのですが砲塔の強度不足について初めて聞きました。どの書籍の情報でしょうか？
@@hiro-ox6vi
横から失礼
確かwikiなり有名とこに書いてあったと思いますよ
自分は砲塔ではなく船が保たないって認識でしたが
@@user-op8rz1ef7l 解説どうも。自分も斉射すると船体強度が持たないって話は聞いたことは有るんですよ。砲塔の強度不足ってのは初めて聞いたもので
@@hiro-ox6vi
初めまして
私も艦上構造物がもたなたいと聞いた事があります
その他副砲や高角砲の測距儀が振動で狂ってしまい使い物にならなくなるとか
子供の頃、火の山公園で大和の主砲弾見たけどあれ当たったらマジヤバいなと子供心に思った。テロン人で良かった😊
発砲音結構リアルらしいな
湾岸戦争でアメリカのミズーリの一斉斉射、戦前の日本の映画の音源からして、リアルです。
ほんとは斉射の際に振動で海面が震えてるのでそれを再現して欲しかった。
火力は、地球史上最大のはずなので、
重力によって曲射できる実態弾で、直進しかできない反射衛星砲に対抗するとはおどろきました。小さな冥王星ならではですね。
誰だよ、実弾とビーム兵器併用出来る砲塔考えた奴っ！
すげぇ～～じゃねぇ～かっ！
宇宙戦艦ヤマトの魅力は、既に第二次世界大戦では時代遅れになってしまった戦艦の大口径の砲撃が見られること。アニメだけど、迫力は十分。また、戦艦だけでなく、航空隊がミサイルを敵艦に打ち込む、まさに太平洋戦争の日米機動部隊の戦いも魅力的。
アメリカにもバトルシップという映画があって、ロマンは同じなのだ。
@@MikiHigashiあれなんか宇宙人の攻撃にイージス艦はレーダー潰され、全く役に立ちませんでしたね。あっという間に轟沈でしたから。一方でミズーリは第三砲塔を損傷、小破しましたが、同じ敵を40.6センチ砲弾で完膚なきまで叩いていました。
Never underestimate the power of cannon shells.
Random Crew 1 onboard Desslers ship: How are they hitting us?!
Random Crew 2: They're shells! They're firing physical cannon shells!
Dessler: Terran barbarians!
Weapons against shields that are not tuned for them is effective all the same.
@@Aereto The amount of energy a high velocity massive shell has is beyond tuning. You will need to dedicated all the power you can gather just to dissipate that 1 shot.
Well a space ship build to combat other space whip with energy weapons would be differently protected then battlewagons that had to survive being hit with a "car a minute". Space ships would have a hull and energy shield that deflect incoming energy charge. While an Physical object... it does what a physical object does!
0:21辺りでクリピテラに直撃当てた時の「ﾎﾞｺﾞｺﾞﾝ!!」みたいな音がなぜかめっちゃ好き
ショックガンモードにはない物理的な一撃の重さを感じる
この砲弾発射システム
後に続く波動カートリッジ弾を使用可能にするためだなと思った。
反動で巨大な船体が左に傾くの好き
三発発射しながらゆっくり前進してる勇ましいヤマトもっと好き
デスラーの「野蛮人め」ってセリフは、ファーストシリーズのデスラー機雷をヤマト乗組員が手作業で排除したシーンのオマージュかな。ファーストシリーズでは「野蛮人の素朴な発想には教えられる」と笑ってたが、それがここ1番の決戦で出てくるとは。
敵艦が横っ腹見せてるのに、一方的に打たれるデウスーラ😰
深夜にやってた頃は子供に戻ったよーに見てたなぁ
新作のたびに船がデカくなってるのも耳初だったわ
たった一隻なのに、沈まないどころか決戦しかけてくる戦艦
埋まったまま高速空母を撃破するのは旧作のボツ案だったらしく、
朝日ソノラマ小説版、松本零士版、
ひおあきら版が本編(TV版第二話)と違って埋まったまま撃ってる描写になってる。
(小説版や漫画版は本編のボツ案を取り入れて描かれている点がある)
2199はいわばボツ案復活。
PS版の描写がもとだと思う。
@@TH-ul4gd
それもボツ案使ってる形。
ショックカノンも強いけど三式弾などの実弾も打てるし威力もモンスタークラス
やばすぎだろ
ヤマトの主砲の凄い所って、無改造でエネルギー弾と実体弾を即座に切り替えて撃てる所だ思う。
それは伏せておこうね
地球発進前の偽装状態(錆びた戦艦のフリ)の時に改良されていたのでしょう。
(現実では、タキオン粒子は発見されていません。物理学者の間では、実在しない仮想的な粒子として認識されています。)
ほとんど活躍の場がない後部砲塔。
@@naokun1238七色星団戦では頑張ったから…………
@@naokun1238後部はビームオンリーだったはず
試し打ちもせずに、初弾命中ってすげぇな！
色々と進化してるんだろうから、当然っちゃ当然なんだろうけど。
1:45
この時のが本来の三式弾の特徴であり本来の使用用途だったと思う。（対空榴散弾）
三式弾を使うべきなのはこの時だけだと思うんだけど。他は徹甲弾を使うべきなんでは？なんで全部三式弾なの？
新しいヤマトでは主砲が光線兵器だけじゃなく実包弾も撃てる設定なのは
驚きました。実包弾だと曲線攻撃もできるしヤマトのサイズじゃ弾頭も
かなり重いのでガミラスの戦闘艦でも１発当たれば大破は確実ですしね。
ヤッパリ主砲は火炎と煙が出た方がカッコイイ。
現実世界の現代の戦闘艦だって、昔の戦艦から主砲撃ち込まれたらイチコロだものな。
2:24~
大和は沖縄でこれをやりたかったのか.....😮
Fun fact: The Yamato-class battleship, one of the most largest and powerfull battleships in the history of world war 2. She and her sister ship, Musashi, were the heaviest and most powerfully armed battleships ever constructed, displacing nearly 72,000 tonnes (71,000 long tons) at full load and armed with nine 46 cm (18.1 in) Type 94 main guns, which were the largest guns ever mounted on a warship. Yamato's main battery consisted of nine 45-caliber 46-centimetre (18.1 in) Type 94 guns-the largest ever fitted to a warship, although the shells were not as heavy as those fired by the British 18-inch naval guns of World War I. Each gun was 21.13 metres (69.3 ft) long, weighed 147.3 tonnes (162.4 short tons), and was capable of firing high-explosive or armor-piercing shells 42 kilometres (26 mi).[16] Her secondary battery comprised twelve 155-millimetre (6.1 in) guns mounted in four triple turrets (one forward, one aft, two amidships), and twelve 12.7-centimetre (5 in) guns in six twin mounts (three on each side amidships). These turrets had been taken off the Mogami-class cruisers when those vessels were converted to a main armament of 20.3-centimetre (8 in) guns. In addition, Yamato carried twenty-four 25-millimetre (1 in) anti-aircraft guns, primarily mounted amidships. When refitted in 1944 and 1945 for naval engagements in the South Pacific, the secondary battery configuration was changed to six 155 mm guns and twenty-four 127 mm guns, and the number of 25 mm anti-aircraft guns was increased to 162.
So this means that this star blazers space yamato battleship is 100 times more stronger than the original Yamato-class battleship itself
It would be cool if anime make ww2 as a space war
@@Stone0911 Well, ww2 era naval was dominated by airplanes and carriers. Battleships was even in the 1940's legacy equipment almost exclusively used to bomb ground targets. Ship on ship warfare was rare and often just accidents.
and hitting something out to max range with a gun was more luck then anything.
@@jmkhenka ouh, thanks for the information
its such a shame we turned all the Yamato class ships into the largest man made coral reefs, it would have been cool to have the ships as museum ships that we could visit today
@@coreytaylor5386it is possible but the Japanese Navy ordered in a final suicide mission
The space battle ship Yamato has a ton of space inside the turrets, the original had much less of that, i guess autoloaders of the future help with that.
I think they got the space because they only have to load the shell and not the propellant. Normally there goes 2 or 3 times the volume in propellant into a naval gun. Of course how the guns then fire is than the question. I guess they might use a liquid propellant they squirt in after the breach is closed. That 2 component liquid from Die Hard with a Vengeance would be ideal as this would also reduce the chance of a catastrophic explosion of the powder magazine dramatically.
@@barthoving2053 Maybe, i guess there should be a detailed explaination online. Maybe those shells have some sort of "dial a range" property, like nukes with dial-a-yield. The loading mechanism is also working as breach, which makes things more compact.
@@barthoving2053 For conventional firing, the guns act as coilguns, it's similar as railguns, but it have coils going around the barrel instead.
They likely use some extremely energetic pressurized liquid bipropellant, like FOOF/RP1, and an inert light gas (for example helium) second stage to get even more muzzle velocity.
Every version of this story has been good, from the anime to the live-action.
惑星大気内で曲射弾道の戦法だけでなく、惑星近くの宇宙から星の重力を使って星の反対側に隠れている敵に当てたりすることもできそう、
ヤマトだと三式弾が対空榴弾ってよりかは遅発式の焼夷榴弾って感じがする。
1:45の対空三式弾 本家戦艦大和の三式弾もこれだったら・・・
と思わずにいられない素晴らしい威力
ヤマトにあんな戦術があったなんてすごいなあ ただあれだけの敵艦に囲まれあれだけ攻撃を受けても反撃可能なヤマトは本当にすごい
Kinetic Projectiles are pretty neat when your enemy only has Shields against Lasers.
I swear there was a version of this compilation hovering around somewhere which included a shot of the crew saluting fallen soldiers while gunners were firing a salute of their own from one of the rear turrets...
I remember that one. They were doing something of a burial at sea (space) ceremony. I've been looking for it too.
i know who youre talking about, the guy deleted all of this compliation videos and never explained why
so these seem to be reuploads of those videos
弔砲ですね
The rear turrets cant fire shells.. because they sit right atop a hangar bay and the 2 catapults so there is no room downwards for the shell storage and transport mechanism.. i guess in that scene they were firing some short of energy blanks for effect. they dont seem to be firing anything that goes away..just the ceremonial flash
This anime is made with care, passion, and lots of nerdiness, I love it
三式弾痺れるわ
たまらん。快感。
三式弾の爆煙好きです😄
One of my favorite anime. The Yamato is such a beast!
俺には、あの偽装された「大和」の主砲射撃が、“旧日本海軍、大和型戦艦一番艦、戦艦「大和」”の姿での最後の咆哮に思える。
i bet this is how IJN imagine their Yamato can do
single-handedly win naval battles
😂
2:13
Canonically, only the three frontal turrets are armed with the Type 3 Shells. Looking closely, the last two rear turrets are not pointing at Dessler’s ship.
日本最高傑作アニメーション
The old 18 inch guns are still powerful in this sci Fi
Any time and place...
ほ、砲弾です！敵は砲弾で攻撃を！
このセリフすき
旧日本海軍が使用していた「三式弾」は、対空用時限炸裂弾なんだよね😅
花火の親分みたいな砲弾で、威力は絶大だったそうだよ。
戦艦に搭載していましたね😉
対空対艦両用の万能砲弾なんだよ…多分きっと()
@@user-vd9cs5fd7x ヤマトでは、レーザーキャノン砲が当たり前の時代。
そこへ、砲弾を使用するとは、デスラーやシュルツ指令も度肝を抜いたと思いますよ😅
だから太平洋戦争当時に、対空火器のレーダー照射を開発できなかった日本海軍が、開発した、細かい鉄片が無数に飛び散り、近くの敵航空機を破壊撃墜する「三式弾」をモチーフにヤマトに採用したのでしょう🤗
戦艦大和をリスペクトした、良いアイデアだと思います。
南部重工業「ウチが名付けた」
こちらの三式弾は名前だけ同じの遅延信管の砲弾かな
今の技術で対空砲弾を作るなら近接信管付きのクラスター爆弾をばら撒くなんていいかも
正式名称三式融合弾となっているので、言う通り対空対艦両用の万能砲弾なのでしょう。
This is why kinetic/ballistic weapons are the most powerful type of guns in space. Also this point is very valid, Sir Isaac Newton is THE DEADLIEST S.O.B. IN SPACE.
冥王星基地陥落でアニメではあんまり描写されていなかったけど、漫画版では艦隊の出撃が遅れた理由がわかったんですよね。
ガミラスはビーム兵器を主眼に考えているから基本的に直線上にしか攻撃出来ない。
だけど、実体弾なら必ず惑星の引力によって弾道が曲射になる。なのでシュルツ司令官はヤマトの攻撃迄にまだ幾許かの猶予が有ると思っていたのがね。
A great idea they explored here. Thrilling stuff. I love how the old tech always caught the enemy off guard.
I recently picked up the star blazers manga and its really reallly good , one nice thing about the manga is that it has design details on the ships from the series
2:17 ここから「野蛮人め」で笑う😂
Palpatine would be drooling in jealousy over this kind of power.
Other ship having a Futuristic Lazer cannons
While
Yamato is still using the good ol Cannon from WW2 era
The alien ships are designed to resist energy weapons - they have no defense against physical projectiles.
2199の最初と最後を実弾で決めるのセンスすごい。
ヤマトと言えば大和の三式弾。
やっぱかっこええわ…
冒頭の偽装状態での砲撃、爆風で周りの土がボフッてなってるの好き
1:47 この砲弾が飛んでいく音好き
三式弾はわが旧帝国海軍が開発した
実際の防空弾だぞおおおお
んな訳で、動画内みたいに貫通してチュドンってのは違和感山盛りなんだが。
個人的にゃ、ナパームみたいに焼き払う方がスッキリする～♪
マジレスするとこれは南部火工が開発した「三式融合弾」略して三式弾なんで全然別物
七色星団海戦での対空戦闘及び甲殻攻撃機・デスバデーターに使用した「榴散弾」が史実の三式弾っぽくて良き。
7色星団の三式はやっぱモヤモヤしちゃう
Yamato really went “F-- your lasers! Have some good old fashioned gunpowder!”
コミック版の冥王星戦、レーザーは直進しかしないから大丈夫って、ところで双曲線軌道で打ち上げた三式弾のくだり最高
I love the cannon sound effects. So unique.
I’m so happy they kept a bunch of the sound effects from the original 70’s anime. The sound design in the original was awesome.
The plot armor on the Yamato was stronger than its wave canon
ビーム兵器使えない場所でヤマトが実弾ぶっぱしまくってるシーンめっちゃ好き
01:09, oh the gong like sound just......................*chef kiss*
やはり重量兵器は最強
炸薬×質量×スピード=破壊力
2:13三式弾を在庫処分セールのごとくぶっ放してるの好きってコメントが過去にあって同じだって思った
砲雷長良い仕事してますね
You will never take that away from me.
Kinetic and Ballistics are the only way to go with space weaponries. Lasers? Beams? Ions? Plasma? All that shit can frak off. Big shells, missiles and torpedoes are a man's romance, even in space.
現在回頭看真的只剩情懷。真實世界如果遇到外星人入侵，靠大和號上這些裝備去拯救地球，地球百分之百藥丸。
大和號的目的是要上宇宙和外星人作戰的，宇宙中誰跟你相距幾百公尺互轟？對那些以亞光速移動並且配備雷射砲的外星人來說，一千公里以內都算超近戰纏鬥了啊，拿這些裝備去狩獵採用火藥推進實體彈的大和號，那真是比在馬里亞納射火雞還輕鬆一百倍以上。
3式彈真的超好用 長程打擊專用不輸飛彈
戦艦大和からの再生は曖昧にされてしまいましたが、この三式融合弾の登場で改めて戦艦大和の生まれ変わりだと実感できました。
第二話や劇場版での一部しか見れなかった砲撃戦。効果音も当時のものを使っていたので感動しました。最初の空母を撃破したのが砲撃だったので驚きましたが、最後にデスラーとの対戦で使用されて戦艦としての価値を見せてくれた演出にとても感激しました。
最近は使う場面が減ってきましたが、またこの三式融合弾が活躍する場面を見たいと思います。
三式弾、もっと早いうちに地球艦隊に配備されていれば戦況は少しは変わってたのかな
When everyone is building shields and armor to resist energy weapons, sometimes a good old 18.1 inch high explosive shell is just what you need.
AP with HE filler just gotta be the best thing ever
電子戦が主な世界で航空機による対象の目視＆マークからの曲射砲撃による攻撃って敵からしたら訳分からなさすぎて草