"Surely, the blessed Adeptus Astartes are too pure to be corrupted?" "Zealot I literally got instruction on how to deal with traitor marines when I joined the Guard"
Reminder that ogryns actually consistently beat space marines if they can make it to melee, and only struggle at range because they rarely if ever aim.
Do you have a source for this? It’s not impossible for this to occur considering ogryns are much bigger and stronger however I haven’t seen anything stating ogryns consistently beat space marines. Space marines aren’t stupid so if they engage an enemy in melee that they know they themselves can’t over power they will take them down tactically. They’re not just trained in ranged combat but hand to hand combat and melee weapon combat. So I imagine 9 times out of 10 the space marine is winning. Also it wouldn’t make a difference if ogryns could aim they’d be taken out before they even realised that the space marines was there. To be honest it seems you’re underestimating and undercutting that of which a space marine is capable off. Which leads me to doubt your words that they apparently consistently beat space marines.
I love the accent this veteran voice has. It sounds mostly English but occasionally there’s hints of this New Zealand/Australian/South African vowel shift. Like when she says “Dead” in this clip, it’s kind of a “deed” sound.
@@LoRdInTeRwEbS That seems accurate otherwise, but I can't find any examples of that dialect where the "e" sound in words like "dead" is pronounced as an elongated "ii" in the same way we do in NZ. The veteran voice definitely does have that quirk in it though
CSM and guard are an interesting interaction. On one hand, guardsmen are probably executed (if they survive) afterwards since Astartes are treated as angels and seeing them corrupted goes against a lot of imperial propaganda. On the other hand, they still need guardsmen to fight and protect and i suppose it's not really a secret what happened to Cadia.
In commissar Cain 3rd book guardsmen face world-eaters on several separate occasions, and thats just a tip of the iceberg, cuz in the finale of the book they straight up banish a slaanesh demon in its summoning chamber, and they aren't executed after that
@@LoRdInTeRwEbS not talking about Cain. He's with 579th Valhalla regiment, and a squad from Tallarn regiment as well as their commissar. all of these guardsmen are present as they follow closely behind a 5-man world eater squad, and all of them, as well as the rest of a valhallan unit deployed witness the slaaneshi demon and banish it. Not even a word about guardsmen encountering khornites/demon after that and Im pretty sure I will read more about 579th in later cain books
Not necessarily. In Pandorax the first half of the book was Death guard versus the Catachan Jungle Fighters, and early on, a mere four Jungle Fighters ambushed three Plague Marines, basically fighting them 1v1, and killed them all with no losses. It wasn't until later when daemons showed up when Grey Knights and Dark Angels arrived to even the fight. Even then, none of the remaining Guard regiments were executed. They just had their minds wiped, but they were even given time to pay final respects to their fallen comrades.
I want them to put an unwinnable fight against a chaos space marine because I constantly hear darktide players asking why they don't put space marines as enemies in the game because they think they'd be easy.
meanwhile in rogue trader: My human in non-powered metal armor with a primitive non-power sword bonks chaos marines to death in a single turn. (Note this is HIGHLY lore innacurate)
My players who used psykers could do the same barehanded. It also typically killed them… and everyone within a one mile radius. Sometimes it happened intentionally too.
nah, a rogue trader with enough techno artifacts and augmentics and insane bullshit could absolutely bonk an astartes lol rogue traders have access to better gear
Its upsetting that Vermintide had Chaos warriors popping in and they were considered the big baddies when they were first seen. I really wish in darktide, a chaos space marine would enter the fight. Like the assassination missions are a joke as it is. 4 geared players on damnation can wipe the floor with the end boss in seconds.
Wait a moment. In imperial lore, people dont jnow that some of the daemon princes like fulgrim and mortarion were sons of the emperor. Did that change with dark imperium? Maybe the space marines know, but not some nobodies like your crew in darktide.
i assume theyre just referring to the astartes as a whole? super unlikely that these four chumps would know about the actual blood sons falling to chaos
"Surely, the blessed Adeptus Astartes are too pure to be corrupted?"
"Zealot I literally got instruction on how to deal with traitor marines when I joined the Guard"
Cutthroat veteran: "I have fought the traitor Astartes. Pray you never see one"
Reminder that ogryns actually consistently beat space marines if they can make it to melee, and only struggle at range because they rarely if ever aim.
As Ogryn I reject these hurtful stereotypes. We big brain users, higher cognitive faculties and the like.
They are indeed quite strong however what the abhumans lack is finesse
A threat to be sure but manageable
And Thunder warriors could fold them like accordion, Astrates power is in their longevity rather than brute force.
Genestealer breaks into APC
Has spent centuries adapting to take on the Guard.
Finds Ogryns.
Do you have a source for this? It’s not impossible for this to occur considering ogryns are much bigger and stronger however I haven’t seen anything stating ogryns consistently beat space marines. Space marines aren’t stupid so if they engage an enemy in melee that they know they themselves can’t over power they will take them down tactically. They’re not just trained in ranged combat but hand to hand combat and melee weapon combat. So I imagine 9 times out of 10 the space marine is winning. Also it wouldn’t make a difference if ogryns could aim they’d be taken out before they even realised that the space marines was there. To be honest it seems you’re underestimating and undercutting that of which a space marine is capable off. Which leads me to doubt your words that they apparently consistently beat space marines.
I love the accent this veteran voice has. It sounds mostly English but occasionally there’s hints of this New Zealand/Australian/South African vowel shift. Like when she says “Dead” in this clip, it’s kind of a “deed” sound.
It's a brum accent from Birmingham
@@LoRdInTeRwEbS Keep a bab on what you're blabbering
@@SirSaladhead that's what it is though
@@LoRdInTeRwEbS That seems accurate otherwise, but I can't find any examples of that dialect where the "e" sound in words like "dead" is pronounced as an elongated "ii" in the same way we do in NZ. The veteran voice definitely does have that quirk in it though
just birmingham literally
CSM and guard are an interesting interaction. On one hand, guardsmen are probably executed (if they survive) afterwards since Astartes are treated as angels and seeing them corrupted goes against a lot of imperial propaganda. On the other hand, they still need guardsmen to fight and protect and i suppose it's not really a secret what happened to Cadia.
In commissar Cain 3rd book guardsmen face world-eaters on several separate occasions, and thats just a tip of the iceberg, cuz in the finale of the book they straight up banish a slaanesh demon in its summoning chamber, and they aren't executed after that
@@ГенадийСамобранцев well yeah, he's a named character lol
@@LoRdInTeRwEbS not talking about Cain. He's with 579th Valhalla regiment, and a squad from Tallarn regiment as well as their commissar. all of these guardsmen are present as they follow closely behind a 5-man world eater squad, and all of them, as well as the rest of a valhallan unit deployed witness the slaaneshi demon and banish it. Not even a word about guardsmen encountering khornites/demon after that and Im pretty sure I will read more about 579th in later cain books
Not necessarily. In Pandorax the first half of the book was Death guard versus the Catachan Jungle Fighters, and early on, a mere four Jungle Fighters ambushed three Plague Marines, basically fighting them 1v1, and killed them all with no losses. It wasn't until later when daemons showed up when Grey Knights and Dark Angels arrived to even the fight. Even then, none of the remaining Guard regiments were executed. They just had their minds wiped, but they were even given time to pay final respects to their fallen comrades.
I want them to put an unwinnable fight against a chaos space marine because I constantly hear darktide players asking why they don't put space marines as enemies in the game because they think they'd be easy.
I mean, we have plasma guns and bolters, we'd be ok
@@LoRdInTeRwEbSWe wouldn't be helpless, but I think we'd be far from okay.
@@LoRdInTeRwEbSI mean realistically the Space Marine has put a bolter round through the entire squad’s foreheads before they’ve gotten a shot off.
@@HappyHog11yeah the problem isn’t that the guardsman can’t kill a space marine. It’s just the space marine will kill them before they got the chance
@@internetuser320 for sure. Fire power isn’t the issue, it’s just that we’d never be able to use it
Ogryn: Traitor Marines? Very Tough. (Ogryn can beat space marines in a fight)
I think they mean "very tough to chew."
Or they're just being humble, because they're good bois.
Oh yes. Very tough. Lots of muscle.
I want a boss fight thats just one Chaos Marine and he's the toughest boss in the game so bad.
We’ll talk to the nearest Cadian or Hanz, they will tell you that falling is not just possible but already happened
meanwhile in rogue trader: My human in non-powered metal armor with a primitive non-power sword bonks chaos marines to death in a single turn.
(Note this is HIGHLY lore innacurate)
My players who used psykers could do the same barehanded. It also typically killed them… and everyone within a one mile radius.
Sometimes it happened intentionally too.
nah, a rogue trader with enough techno artifacts and augmentics and insane bullshit could absolutely bonk an astartes lol
rogue traders have access to better gear
Its upsetting that Vermintide had Chaos warriors popping in and they were considered the big baddies when they were first seen. I really wish in darktide, a chaos space marine would enter the fight. Like the assassination missions are a joke as it is. 4 geared players on damnation can wipe the floor with the end boss in seconds.
Can't say the same about the Karnak Twins in the hardest difficulty
@@nodosa994 Honestly those are a different story. The pox gas i feel like is the worst added feature to the game xD
Wait a moment. In imperial lore, people dont jnow that some of the daemon princes like fulgrim and mortarion were sons of the emperor. Did that change with dark imperium? Maybe the space marines know, but not some nobodies like your crew in darktide.
i assume theyre just referring to the astartes as a whole? super unlikely that these four chumps would know about the actual blood sons falling to chaos
They're referring to Astartes as a whole, the Primarchs falling are still hidden. Mostly depends on the writer.
but maybe some of the vets have heard of their buddies fighting chaos astartes, or fought them themselves
Someone hasn't heard about the Horus Heresy it seems.
How did you get the site
I have the same question
I found the answer. There is a mod on Nexusmods, that allows additional customization for weapon. But it is buggy
@@Cheese_syrnik That seems a bit unfair because that adds a huge playing advantage
Sights for the weak iron sights the manly way not with a girly scope disgusting