DON'T SKIP this POWER MOVE for Your VOCALS
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Nice! BTW, (for other viewers) TDR Nova will do this, splitting the mids and sides, but so will another free plugin called MSED. MSED allows you to mute either the mid or the sides, or adjust their gain separately if you still want a little in the middle. It's not an eq, it just gives you the options I mentioned, plus indicators of stereo width and phase correlation. Very useful plugin.
Adding onto this, theres one more plugin named OSL SIDE EFFECTS. Which lets u eq mid side separately, balance the levels, compress them separately and saturate mid sides separately. Got it free as a promotion from plugin boutique, nice tool
@@hrdsht Thanks mate, I'll check it out! 🙂👍
TDR does not have a mid/side eq setting for this
@@DanielGomez-ei7yx Yes it does, click on where it says 'stereo' by default. The menu is Stereo, Mono, Sum, Diff. Sum is Mid, Diff is Side.
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Another fantastic video, Streaky! Thanks a lot. This couldn’t have come at a better time-I’ve been struggling to get my vocals to sound just right, and this will definitely serve as a great guideline for what might work. Much appreciated!
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This has been my go-to trick for instantly getting a vocal in a more interesting space in every mix I do. I have a Dim-D send in my template and its the first thing I add when I start mixing.
The UAD one is great. The Arturia one is great. Microshift by Soundtoys is great.
I haven't done the M/S trick with Pro-Q but I've done similar with Center by Waves and it works so well.
I literally was about to make a post saying that I learned this from your channel. Your videos are literally the best of the best!!! 💯💯💯
Can you link me to the video you learned from for more better understanding
@@OKLAHOMALOVE2 linked me with the video you learned from
@@Lekzyomoakin I believe the video is called: 5 Ways to Get Perfectly WIDE Pop Vocals | Make Pop Music
That's by @MakePopMusic and I am sure the effect is at 3:21 in that video.
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You are too kind for sharing this knowledge.
Amazing! I've always searched for that chorused, yet consistent vocal sound, like you hinted with the thumbnail, there's a lot of that in The Weeknd sound. Also with the band Phoenix, (take Role Model for example), they achieve a similar result, yet with more delays and what not, it would be cool if you could elaborate more on that; indie pop vocals (Phoenix, Still Woozy, Omar Apollo) cheers!
This would be quite tasty on a mono synth
Never taken the middle channel out before, I'll give that a go.
Edit: I preferred it with the middle channel in, also I preferred the Gem mod version of the dimension d, the width and drive options made a big difference.
This works a treat...in the past i would've automated the stereo image, cleaner this way
WOW dude, that was outstanding bro.. I kinda got lost with setting that up but Wow, I gotta try this.. I got two great tips tonight.. Whoo hooooo!!!!
Such inspiring content
thankyou from the bottom of my heart!
Much love streaky! You’ve taken my mixes to another level
Thats awesome, ive always had my vocal bus sent to a series of similar fx busses but never thought to HP filter the dimension/chorus buss. Then automating it at the hook is brilliant. Cant wait to use this
The use of the ProQ3 to create that "effect to the sides" just blew my mind... I don't really understand how that works but the fact that it actually crates that effect, by doing what you said, is crazy.
I dont get it to work. After I add the ProQ3 and do what he saids it sounds super mono in my ears. Maybe I do something wrong..?
I’ve used this trick for ages now (i will say that i usually go for a micro shift these days, but i still got this plugin as an option on the tracks), but using mid side processing to only apply it to the sides is next level, I’ll be stealing that!
Yeah, that's wild (the use of the EQ to create that effect). Is it officially called "mid side processing"?
@@enderbender429 yes it’s a technique where you have a plugin that separates the signal that is the same in both speakers (mid) from what is different in each speaker (sides). It’s been around for ages and i don’t use it nearly enough because i don’t have much use for it by itself, mastering engineers sometimes use it a lot. I often use it to do things that effect mostly the low end since it is often only in the mids, but this is almost the opposite of that.
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Very clear and easy to understand pro tips.. Thank you. Streaky
Would've been nice to hear it in a mix.
That’s a whole other video! 😂
Try it on your own!
Great!
My absolute Favourite for Dim D effects.. is Gem Mod from Overloud. To me, it sounds most like the original with bonuses and most importantly, minus the noise.
Thanks so much, Streaky! You really help.
Amazing! Thank you 😎
thanks brother !
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ty for the lesson
Man, sounds like half of the songs playing on my gym. Good to know.
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Thanks Streaky, thats awesome 🙂
Great tip! I use Logic Pro's stock chorus and set the rate to min (0.033 hz) and intensity + mix to 100% to get a fake wide vocal. But maybe I'm missing out not using a better plugin?
Nice! Thank you!
Thanks ❤🔥
Thanx! Good trick
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this is super helpful
so nice tips
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Good ass trick thank you 🙏🏼
i'm so keen to create this effect bro 🔥🔥🔥
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I am almost sure the Serum FX plugin bundled with serum has a variant of this too.
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I like it. Thanks.
Thanks
That purple waza stereo guitar pedal tho... lol
thank you for the info sir pls can you do other daws version sir pls
so this brickwall mid eq techhnique can also be done in most/all eq's with mid/side options? such as Total EQ from Hornet Plugins?
Also curious how I would set that up in Ableton with stock plugins
Good in iso. Digital sum of un equivalent same source material is still not up with analog
very nice.. now please do the same for studio one so this cowboy can attempt to do it too? :)
I reproduced it (also linear phase mode in Pro Q) and then switched to mono. Had total phase cancellation on the chorus track resulting in silence. Maybe you could add what’s important to do in addition to avoid? Or is it part of the deal if we want that wide vocals in stereo (having no additional info in mono)?
Thx man.
lubbly jubbly Streaky, especially nice when the chorus vocal is similar to the verse. 👌🏻 Be interested to know. Do you think this has a better sound than doubler plugins?! Cheeyaras.
I wouldn’t say one is better than other defo depends on the vocal…do em both and keep the better one 👍
Bro cooked
Could you translate how to achieve this in Protools ?
Hi Streaky, thanks for the video. For that mid-side trick, can you just mute the Mid channel on the Voxengo MSED plug-in?
Someone knows how to achieve this in Ableton?
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How do the chorous vocals sound when you put it in mono? Did they got phase issues?
Any reason to not put the reverb effects etc. directly on the Vocal Bus track stack? Rather than routing what is a essentially already a vocal bus to another bus for effects?
Somebody try this in my one of my mixing too and I asked the same question his response was it give more details than fx
I don't understand all those bus / stack / track choices. What's the simplest alternative?
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Hi, besides from the great trick: Was this vocal track heavily edited in Flex Pitch or some other pitch corrector? Is it just me or does it sound like this? Or was it generated by AI? Thanks in advance.
So let me get it straight you took the sides signal from the vocals and added the chorus effect to them and then using a send to another track got the dry signal and basically did a parallel mix and to that mix added the reverb at the end correct? The only question I have is if it wouldn’t have been better to bounce a mid section only and mix that with the sides since the dry signal being sent also has the unprocessed sides information and mixing in parallel with the processed sides could cause phase issues? I’m not sure However
Heavily auto-tuned is not dry.
Who knew 30k could sound like that
Didn't you say you wanted it to only effect the sides? The you put the effect DIM D in mid. Don't you want it in sides only?
Bro he is cutting those frequencies with an EQ on the mid......... Think about that
Do you use this trick when there is doubles of the lead vocal in the production ?
Yeah use on one and keep one clean
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You wrote Valhalla Uber mod on your list I think you meant to write... Valhalla space mod ..
I would have loved if you did not pass that brickwall stuff in such a speed. I guess many of us are not very expirienced so we need a little focus on details. This is an comman problem. Knowledge is presented as we already know everything about it. Many of us are musicians and have nu such competence. Otherwise! ❤ Thank you so much for your sharing!🎉😊
Are you getting younger?
😂😂😂 I thought the same
are you making a better work than bob ludwig..
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Autotuning effect when she sings comfortable sounds horrible
Very mono
Love the video but god modern melodies are boring af.
Thanks for the excellent training
Nothing to do with you chap, but modern pop music is so crap... no melodic interest or development in the vocals, no harmonic interest in the music, no interesting rhythms... pure soul-numbing rubbish, no wonder the younger generation are all so depressed and apathetic. Compare that to something like "The Carpenters - We've Only Just Begun" from the 70s (I'm only 33 years old, so don't think I'm an old-timer just hating anything modern).
Our world is being destroyed from every direction.
Agreed but that is the nature of the beast these days.
The focus is on something else. Melody and harmony are less important than texture and sound design, although if you ask me I think there's no reason to neglect either. Young people are depressed because the economy is collapsing and the world has only a few decades left for human survival. Music is not one of the greatest worries we have.
It's literally just the lyrics and the spirit behind the singer. Nearly everything is demonic and devoid of meaning. People don't or can't write good lyrics because they don't have anything good to talk about. So yes music today is technically very pleasing from an engineering standpoint, but there is simply no soul to the song
@@Sebastian_Baran The music is terrible beyond just the singer(s). You've got pop tracks up until the late 90s and early 2000s that would still require a real musician to compose and perform, now there's almost nothing there... Michael Jackson's Unbreakable album from the early 2000s is chock full of beautiful chord progressions and harmony - whenever I am inadvertently exposed to modern day pop music, it makes me feel like being in a slave factory.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE it could also just be a general reduction in enjoyment of life which happens with age. people are sicker and poorer than ever before so I'm sure that has a part to play
tbh. boring
Does the uad chorus D come with the subscription?