That Midwest Emo Tone: How Do I Get This Guitar Sound?
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
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DAEAC#E Tuning Guide: gtdb.org/daeacse
0:00 Intro
0:37 Triple Jump
1:00 Guitars
1:46 Pickups
2:25 DAEAC#E Tuning
3:28 Guitar Pedals
3:50 Compressor
4:48 Overdrive
5:55 Chorus
6:54 Reverb
8:20 AMP
8:43 Audiointerface
9:19 Sound Chain
9:42 DAW
10:37 Outro - Hudba
*I wonder what guitars and pedals do you use guys?*
Great video man.
I play with a Squier Bullet Stratocaster.
Recently I add Neural Archetype: Abasy to my digital gear. I will try to reach your tone imitating your sets.
Greetings from Mexico City
Thank you!
I haven't heard about that plugin but I'm sure I must try it. :D
Now, this is going to sound hilarious... but a Ephiphone Les Paul SL in the middle position.
It’s kind of a weird guitar since it uses 2 single coil pickups (instead of a typical LP humbuckers) but that’s exactly why it works.
Oh, that’s unusual but interesting. Do you know which exact pickups the guitar uses?
@@TorinoDays spec sheet says generic Ephiphone 650SCR ceramic single coil pickups.
Everyone, don't be afraid to make your own style and tone, I make mine using the cheapest pedals I can, I use light overdrive, itty bitty chorus, mid reverb and light delay.
What pedals you running? I love a nice transparent overdrive too, I run an EHX crayon drive
frrrr
Yup. Got a used behringer bass EQ and it makes any cheap guitar amp sound tubed
Why do that when I can be a carbon copy of someone else?
@@dilbophagginz so u can specify the exact way u want it to sound
Great job! I appreciate the effort that was put into this video. Very well structured, with no unnecessary information. Just wish I've seen this kind of tutorial earlier.
Thank you! I do appreciate it!
That stop before the fill was amazing! Great video helped me production wise!
That’s a really great subtle yet effective of those effects.
As a person who knows nothing about pedals, this video helped me a lot. Thank you!
Oh, thank you! I'm glad to help you.
@@TorinoDays What string gauge do you recommend for midwest emo? Or should I just stick with the one I felt comfortable with?
Thanks for your question! I think it makes sense to use thr strings you are comfortable with. As to me, I tried 10-48 and 11-52. Both are cool but there are some differences. 10-48 is good for tapping but power chords sounds a bit poor. 11-52 is great for power riffs, however, it's hard to me to play tapping since the strings are thicker. But anyway, I'd suggest you to buy different ones and play them all just to get which strings work for you. :)
Awesome video! You definitely made things much easier to understand! I'm running a Vox AC30C2 amp and have yet to build my pedal board up but this video told me everything I need to do that now. Thankyou!
I’m glad to help you mate
this is a great guide. ive owned a helix for a long time but never really made my tones from scratch. i would just edit patches other people made but this was super helpful
Thx!! Helix is kinda super tool
Amazing! Thank you for this video! Also the track for the title cards sounds like Anohana and I love it
Found this video last night and it was super helpful. Made a new song at 3am for my band with this xd! Thx 💜
Wow! I'm happy to read it :D. Can I check it out somewhere? Maybe some demo?
As a pedal and guitar-recording newb, this was very insightful.
Thank you for sharing your setup. Will deffo check out your band, can't have enough math rock after all :)
I’m happy to help mate! If you have any questions feel free to ask!
this is soo cool, thank you! :D such an underrated channel!
your Intro song just helped me with writing Midwest emo songs ty brother
Wow, thanks, really? I’m wondering how did I help you mate
Awesome thanks! Will definitely checkout your band :)
You're welcome mate
thank you so much!! helpful and straightforward video
Thank you for your comment!
definite vouch for the "don't worry about not having a telecaster" advice you've given. my jaguar gives me the tone i want compared to my telecaster (and don't get me wrong, i love my tele to death, but it sounds better distorted similarly to alt rock as opposed to the more overdriven tones that midwest emo utilizes). it depends by your personal preferences, from anything like pickups to scale length.
this guide is really good, thank you for uploading it!
Think a jazzmaster could pull off the tone?
@@DonKynos anything can haha. like obviously not a guitar with emgs and a 10db boost, but basically any guitar with pickups and 6+ strings can work.
This was one of the best videos I've ever seen on guitar tone/pedals
Thx mate
Wow. It’s like painting, so many different shades of pedal to get THAT sound. Interesting
this is like a cheat sheet for newbies Thanks!
Haha thank you! I was struggling looking for such stuff and I was trying to find some pieces to get how all these parts works together, so that's why I decided to create this video.
Really good video! I just started learning guitar so I can play emo music and this was super helpful
Thanks for kind words
I think the altoids is the key to achieved the math rock tone
thank you for this!
Really love your tone! replicate the sound with the amp sim pleaseee
absolute heater
i dont know how to play the guitar and im too lazy to learn so everything on the song that i make is "real" (drums, bass and keys) but guitars are programmed lol
How do u program guitars?
@@kryptonnslaxx6378 MIDI i’m assuming
@@kryptonnslaxx6378 ample guitar plugins, the interface is cool and it make the guitars you make realistic
@@jpbeats1748 rlly
exactly the opposite to most indie artists
Thank you!
Glad to help you! :)
Nice video mate
Thank you!
My son is a Christian worship guitarist for our church but he and i play pop punk and emo music together, he has used chorus in a few of our song's and they turn out pretty cool 👍
Yess, chorus is magic!
Nice channel dude
Thank you brother
Best tutorial ever!
Haha thanks mate!
Cool video I liked very much thanks.
Can it be that at minute two, you mix up the sound of neck and bridge pickup, I know that only vice versa, as you describe it?
Thank you mate!
As for your question I’m not sure I got what you meant. Can you please specify exact timestamp? Thanks in advance!
очень круто, спасибо за подробность!
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Hey man, great video
Do you think a Gretsch G2410 hollow body is suitable for this genre of music?
Hey! Yeah, I’m pretty sure it can be used for this music direction.
Can you do a lesson on how to write Midwest emo riffs
Haha that’s interesting request! Yes, I’ll try my best.
Just an FYI a normal Jazzmaster doesn't have humbuckers. They're a special single coil design that's a little more like a Gibson P90. Definately a bit thicker than normal Fender single coils but they have their own sound IMO, very consistent, maybe less dyamics but very clear and precise sound. I can see why they were originally designed for jazz. They're brilliant for postpunk because they can sound icy as hell even with loads of gain. I can see why they're popular for emo too.
Yeah you’re totally right, it was my fail since I have played Jazzmaster HH and by the moment of the recording I was sure they all had HH’s.
After I got Fender Jazz Tele I fell in love with Its singles.
@@TorinoDays No worries! I'd definately try Jazzmaster pups if you haven't yet as they're really something different. On paper you'd expect them to sound like P90s, basically just between single coils and HHs with none of the humbucking. But while they are thicker and a little hotter than most single coils they don't get 'hairy' or muddy like a P90 can. They're crystal clear clean with the advantage that they don't get shrill when overdriven.
All that said i'll always be a single coil Tele guy at heart. Blows my mind that such a simple design is still like the most versatile guitar in the world. Tone for days.
can you share guitar effects using guitar rig 5?
Love the video. Such a big help. Do you ever use an EQ pedal
Thank you!
Yes, I used but I find it useful only on the stage (probably I'm just a noob :)). If I want to use EQ at home studio, I use it only during post-production process, using VST.
@@TorinoDays appreciate the response! Would love to see a video on Facgce tuning, one of my favorites for emo in my extremely brief tenure
@@Lennyroddy2332 I promise I'll do that once I receive my gear.
What do you think of the C.A.B cabinet impulses/simulation on the audient Sono interface? Or do you always use the cab from Ampire?
Thank you for the answer!
Tbh I haven’t had a chance to use CAB a lot since I counted this plugin pretty expensive. I used one or two free options from the plugin, however, I didn’t find it as good to me in terms of sound.
I prefer Ampire since Studio One has it as a built in option though earlier I was a big fan of Bias FX which I think has a lots of extremely cool features.
nice.
Thanks!!
hi, question : how do you plug your Vox in an audio interface, given that it delivers power and needs to put that charge in a speaker or in a power box ? Which I/O do you use ?
nvm you already answered it, thx !
start with a clean tone from a good tube amp then throw in a lil reverb some delay boom you got it
people would kill me for this but I just play around with the myriad settings on my line6 amp until I get the right vibe
Haha, I often do the same with VST to get the right sound.
Отличный видос, смотрю у вас в Украине тоже есть мидвест, класс, подписался) Только отметил бы один момент - на Jazzmaster стоят не хамбакеры, а синглы. Они просто очень большие) У фендер хамбакеры стоят только на всяких Telecaster Deluxe и подобных штуках. На Jazzmaster стоят синглы.
Спасибо большое! Да, по поводу синглов на джаззмастере - моя оплошность, ребята писали в комментариях об этом.
По поводу мидвеста в Украине - я знаю 1-2 группы и всё, так что у нас скорее нет мидвеста, чем он есть, увы.
You forgot to play in a Hella aesthetic room with a fern in the shot
Hello, I am new to guitars and especially clueless when it comes to pedals. Do they have to be the exact same pedals to produce that sound or can it be some other brand and model?
Hi, no, they should not be the same. It may be similar kind of the pedals.
I got a squier affinity tele do you think it could get that sound? And also I have a Fender Champion 20
Yeah mate, your set is also great to play midwest
Ой, спасибо! Ordered the compressor and the overdrive pedal, all I can afford. Looking forward to producing a good tone
Happy to help you! That’s really huge start for building a pedalboard. You don’t need new pedals until you feel the time has come :D.
What about when you need more distortion for a chorus or something? Pedal recommendation?
Thanks for the question!
There are at least four approaches depending on situation. For example, if it’s a live performance, you can use three options:
1. Amp switcher (if the amp allows switching sound variants). When you need more overdrive, you’ll just switch the option on the switcher to activate the overdriven settings of the amp.
2. Pedals with two overdrives (for example, JHS Double Barrel) that combines two pedals in one.
3. Two overdrive pedals. You’ll just turn on the second one for a chorus or smth.
If you you need more overdrive while mixing, you can use plugins. For example, you have already recorded a song with pedals and you need to overdrive some piece. Then you can use one more overdrive via amp simulator here with automation in your DAW.
Hey, i just started learning guitar. Should I learn different generes in standard tuning first or is it better to begin in the emo/ math rock genre ?
I think it would be good idea to understand the basic things of playing the guitar so I would start from standard tuning.
As for genres I would recommend to play what you like. Pretty many midwest emo bands play in the standard tuning, so it won’t be hard to find the tabs or sheets.
@@TorinoDays thank you, I guess i should dive into some music theory as well to understand how all the chords work together
If you have questions or any issues working on that please feel free to ask me here. I’ll answer you or make a video answer.
@@TorinoDays thx man appreciate it
not to nitpick but the jazzmaster you showed a picture of has p90s, which are single coil pickups
The trick is to close your eyes and open your ears
How would I EQ my amp specifically for this? I run an old school, Peavey VTM 60 head, and my controls are Bass, Mids and High for the EQ. My volume is controlled by a Gain knob. Also, since it’s a tube head, would I even need a compression pedal?
Hi! Actually you can use your bass, mid and high eq knobs for the eqing.
As to compression, I’m not sure that the kind of your amp is related to the compression. It’s often recommended to use compression to control the sound before it moves to the amp.
@@TorinoDays I was hoping you’d give me a recommendation of where to dial in each setting for bass, mid and high on my amp. Like where would you set them personally for a telecaster?
Tbh, I haven’t used this specific amplifier, however, I do usually the next eq’ing for telecaster: on the guitar I set Tone knob to 70%-80% and on amps I usually set bass and mid to the middle and highs to 10-11 hours
But I would recommend to listen to the sound of the guitar. I usually cut highs because it may sound a bit annoying on the neck or the middle pickup switch.
4x12 M65 means 4 12 inch speakers. M65 is the speaker model. Maybe the Fane M65.
Yes man I believe you’re right, I didn’t know that when I recorded this video
I have a single coil rosewood strat but I don’t like the humming from it and thought I should get a humbucker Tele for midwest emo but sctually most people use single coil tele?
I broke the nut on my Strat and Im not sure if I should order a nut a fix it myself or pay for getting it done + properly intonated. Also the strat never can keep tuning. Is that better on Tele?
Also I don't use pedals since I need to record in Logic anyway and there are so many effects there, except its hard to just start jamming with Logic.
My goal is to get a job and earn money so I can afford pedals (incl Amp emulation pedal), Tele, mixer (I cant use an amp anyway), good headphones.
Thank you for the reply. Humming may be caused by many reasons. Indeed, technically singles are more sensitive to electrical signals from appliances, for example, and it could affect seriously. I lived in a flat, where I always had these problems with the hum. Once I moved to another one the issue was gone. It’s not a recommendation, just sharing my experience.
If we talk about Strat not keeping tuning, so it’s not a problem with the guitar model, it’s more related to your own instance, unfortunately. I had a Strat that has been tuned by luthier and it was perfectly fine in terms of tuning. I would say “no” answering your question “is that better on Tele?”. Both Tele and Strat may not keep the tuning and vice versa.
If you break something on your guitar and don’t have experience with repairing it, so the cheapest and smartest way to solve the problem is to go to luthier, who will provide you professional help and will not destroy the instrument even more (from my personal experience).
As for a single coil / humbucker. I would use (and I actually did) the humbucker, if I wanted to use more overdriven sound, more aggressive. Compared to single coil, it sounds more dense and powerful. But if you don’t need it, and your problem is only the humming sound, so maybe consider getting noiseless single coils on your Tele. Changing of coils to humbucker (even mini hums) will change your sound drastically.
I would recommend to check some demos on the internet and then make a decision regarding such a change.
Jazzmaster pickups are not humbuckers 1:30
Can I play midwest emo with a Squier bullet mustang HH ? :(
I’m sure yes, if you want to know I’m currently changing my tele replacing the neck pickup from single to hh
Jazzmaster are single coils too :p
yeah, already learned this lesson :D
Привет. А какие присеты ты посоветуешь для создания подобного звука в GuitarRig5? Если конечно ты сталкивался с подобным, спасибо
Привет! Я пользовался достаточно давно гитар ригом. Но могу дать общие советы - нужно выбирать комбики, которые рассчитаны больше на чистый звук и перед ними ставить педаль компрессора, после которой - лёгкий овердрайв. Это должен быть именно овердрайв, а не дисторшн.
И желательно работать над тоном: если есть частоты, режущие слух, я обычно изменяю ручку Treble (иногда Middle) на комбике, или/и ручку Tone на педали овердрайва (если такая ручка есть)
@@TorinoDays Спасибо, ты мегамозг)
@@igosss9616 рад помочь!
I like add a tremolo pedal on fairly low settings to my pedal chain
Tremolo is sort of magic for me, I don’t use it in my mixes now though I have one
Which pedal you have?
How do you tune without breaking strings? And can I use facgce tuning instead?
On electric guitar is not a problem to tune to DAEAC#E as well as FACGCE, however, on acoustic guitar I often break strings especially the first and the second from the bottom..
As to FACGCE of course you can use any tune you like. In the video I explained what I use pretty often though now I use different tunings at the same time on different guitars like DADF#AD, FACGCE and standard tuning.
@@TorinoDays thx!
Hey so I got a compressor now what part of gear do you recommend to get me closer for that Midwest emo sound 🤔
Hey, thanks for the question, not sure I get you correctly. Are you asking what pedal you’d buy next?
@@TorinoDays yeah lol, what pedal would I get next? Please and thank you for that Midwest sound.
I think the next pedal is overdrive. Once you get it, I would suggest you to stop buying pedals and play with the ones you’ve got :D
@@TorinoDays nice nice the compressor so worth it btw! And next week ’ll get the overdrive!
does your amp have a direct out to the audio interface or are you mic'ing it up?
Yeah, it does
It's actually have input for guitar and two outputs - the first one is for CAB (speaker cable) and the second one is for further routing to the audio interface/mixer
@@TorinoDays thank you!
Can i play it on a squire strat?
Sure, it should sound good
Dumb question but does running it into the amp first make that much of a difference than just going directly into the interface?
Oh, it's not a dumb question at all! There is a holy war about this topic. Some people think there is significant difference between "natural" analog sound and "plastic, dead" digital one. There are people believing that digital is a way better, has more quality. And the rest people think it's relatively the same in terms of sound.
I was from the first camp, though now I believe all options are perfectly fine and you can create pretty similar (I'm not saying "the same") sound using both plugins and real amplifiers. For me, now plugins are more useful because I can create/mix music really fast with it, but knowledge of how the real amps work helps me a lot! Talking about using of physical amplifiers, it's more pleasant and atmospheric for me in terms of having fun, so I use sometimes just when I want to relax and play some music.
But in music production people use both real amps and plugins.
@@TorinoDays awesome! Thx so much for the reply
@@jrpwrld No problem! Thanks for the question.
Is there a special reason why you plug your guitar into an amp, then amp to interface, then interface to daw and use vst amps? Wouldn't you be able to plug your guitar into the interface di then use an amp vst or is there something I'm missing?
Hi thanks for the question!
I’m actually use only cab (not an amp) simulator and a real amp in the chain because I like how the real amp sounds, however, recently I’ve started using amp simulator instead of the real one once I got Amplitube plugin. This plugin contains hundreds of presets and simulators so it allows using more features and it’s more convenient on my opinion.
@@TorinoDays Great!!! But... if you use Amp simulator, what do you use to hear the sound? Studio monitors? Headphone? maybe i'm missing something....
@@GianluigiLasco thank you for the question!
I use Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm
@@TorinoDays thanks for your reply! So you connect the headphone to the PC in your chain when you use the Amp Simulator, or to the Vox when you use that real amp, right?
In my chain i have an ipad (into a focusrite dock station) with a tons of amp and Effects simulator... But i can't find a good solution about the audio output. The dockstain has both headphone and speakers output... So i'm thinking to use studio monitors, but i'm not really sure. What do you think about audio output with studio monitors if i use amp Simulator by ipad (or PC)?
Thanks a lot for your help!
@@GianluigiLasco
1. I actually connect the headphones directly into my audio interface whether I use real amp or amp simulator.
2. That's quite controversial question regarding using studio monitors. Good monitors are pretty expensive and require acoustic treatment of the room where they will be placed. I will be honest - it's not easy. One more thing is even if the studio monitors are expensive and cool (in terms of studio monitoring) they may not provide you that massive guitar sound since the monitors' frequency ranges tend to straight line (though it's kind of impossible now) to prevent colouring the sound. Because of that guitars may sound "poor" or "flat".
So, my advice is to start with some good headphones (monitors) with acceptable price for you. Yes, headphones monitors also tend to be "flat" in terms of frequencies ranges, however, they are cheaper than big ones and you would easily return them back if they didn't fit you.
I like Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro. I record guitars and vocals through them.
If you have other questions, please feel free to ask me!
Guitars with humbuckers... Proceeds to show a jazzmasters with single coils haha
От души
Спасибо! 🙏
For that tuning I suggest skinny top fat bottom strings!! Trust me it helps!
Yeah, I use 10-52 Ernie Ball
It does its work
Anyone wanna start a band
Yes
Me
is it possible to use this vox amp without a box?
Hi! You mean without cab?
@@TorinoDays i mean is it a head or does the sound come from the vox?
@@TorinoDays and yes without a cab
Eq settings
sooooo… compressor, chorus, overdrive, and reverb pedal?
Yeah but the order is a bit different:
Compressor, overdrive, chorus and reverb
So I have money for one piece of gear what should I get? That’s not an amp or guitar with a 150$ budget to get that Midwest emo tone?
Hey! Thank you for the question. I think if you want to get a cheap option, you can get only a guitar and use amp and pedals virtual simulator on your computer. You’ll get a good sound and you won’t need to buy gear.
As for guitar, I’m not sure it’s possible to buy good brand new guitar, but you can try to find some Squier Telecaster that was used. I guess it’s a good option
@@TorinoDays @Torino Days hmm haven't thought about that recommend any software you recommend? Additionally, I sort of want to get physical gear as well I have a cheap amp and guitar already but I want something more physical some type of compressor, pedal, etc. Just the closest 1 piece of gear to start off into getting me closer to that midwest tone. I want to slowly start making some type of rig.
@@BURNANNATOR I would recommend to get a compressor. It’s not a special midwest emo thing though it’s a basic guitar effect that helps controlling the sound dynamics. Also the compression pedal helps with sounding of tapping
@@TorinoDays YES! thank you so much!!!! I was thinking the same thing today my tapping volume is too low. Thank you compressor it is!! I'll get back when I figure out my second piece of gear
Haha! Glad to help you bro. Which compressor are you considering to buy?
Чел оставь ссылку на канал с музыкой
Привет! Все ссылки находятся в описании под видео.
good video. just wanted to say jazzmasters dont have humbuckers. those pickups are single coil jazzmaster pickups.
Oh, thank you. It's definitely my bad. I'm sorry for the misconception.
Torino Days no worries at all. you did an amazing job with this video, keep it up!
Thank you bro!! I do appreciate it.
It's true, that type of pickup despite their size is single coils, but there are some jazzmasters or squier with humbuckers, generally HH. I have one, and with humbucker pickups it's perfect for clean tones in the middle and for aggressive tone the neck one sounds pretty good.
What guitar is this?
Fender Telecaster Professional II Buttersctotch Blonde
@@TorinoDays thnak you!
Is there a way to get this tone completely digital?
I’m sure that it’s possible. I believe digital plugins can help with that. I would recommend trying amp simulators for clean sound and play with its settings. Start with no overdrive pedals and then add one if you feel that it’s needed.
You can also follow this guide but with digital plugins.
@@TorinoDays doing that now actually :)
@@Ashen4 So how did it turned out? I'm all digital too lmao. Help me
@@ghastlyshimmer I use a compressor then distortion pedal then OTT then reverb then tad bit of overdrive then an amp sim/cabinet sim (Ableton stock) Dial in all these settings to taste. Doesnt sound exactly like this vid but it’s dope regardless
Are you Italian or have Italian origins? Greetings from Torino city
Haha, no I’m not Italian it’s just a nickname but I’d love to visit Torino
@@TorinoDays oh ok ahahaha it is appropiate, Torino has some emo vibes in my opinion. Keep up with your good work
@@zorroZORROzorroZORRO what's Torino 😳
@@bluebird1954 city in the north west of Italy. Famous for Juventus, Fiat cars and Nutella. Also really nice to visit
Yo did this guy just say Jizzmaster?
Definitely
1:28 I hate to be that guy, saying actually in a youtube comment, but jazzmasters have single coil pickups
First step is to have shirt like the one he's using
And the glasses if possible
add an de-esser on your mic bruh
Will definitely do that on a next vid
Jazzmaster doesn't have humbuckers
So funny to see Midwest and Emo in the same sentence lol
but why? 🙂
How to get midwest tone: BUY A TELECASTER
Haha I believe it’s not totally true, however, there are pretty many points to agree with you :D
Needs to be a yellow one tho
Midwest Emo? WTF?!
You may as well play drop D. A real musician doesn't need a gimmick to play notes. Your tuning has the same range of movement as mine, plus mine is more versatile
it’s not midwest emo without weird ass tunings
Nice video bro, What's the name of that Daw, I've only learned Fl studio when I was a kid and I'd like to switch to some program that helps the songwriting.
Thank you!
This is Studio One but I would recommend you to try several DAWs and choose what you like more instead of sticking to this one.
can you share guitar effects using guitar rig 5?