Also, I'm over Kim! She acts like her life is sooooo hard!! 🙄 Granted, she has two children but she needs to stop acting like the World revolves around her and her family. Come out of your little bubble and LIVE!!! If it was too much for her to be on the trip, then STAY AT HOME. It's the same excuses with her every time there's an activity that doesn't evolve her kids and/or husband! GIRL BYE!! She acts snobbish, pretentious and stuck up.
+KelRom812 Agreed. She's annoying as hell. I was through with her ass after she started crying because the other ladies were DANCING and she couldn't understand why they were having fun! If she was serious about finding herself, she wouldn't be so damn stubborn. I want her off the show. This is not the show for her. Bye, Tootie.
I'm so tired of hearing Kenya's mom was too young and her dad didn't approve of an illegitimate child. Got it! When her mom turned 18 she's legal. What's the excuse? Her mom turns 21. What's the excuse? Her mom turns 30. What's the excuse? My point is...once Kenya's mother became an adult (out of dad's house, own a home and car, job or career) using her dad as an excuse is no longer acceptable. If she wanted her daughter once she got her life together she would have found Kenya and made up for lost time. It's that simple. I also feel it isn't my place to say "girl get over it" because I don't know how it feels to have a mother that totally treats me as an invisible being. It's sad. My heart goes out to Kenya. I do agree with one thing Kenya said about being in in the same room with her mom and all the family members ignore the fact that Kenya's mom will walk right pass her. Not cool.
tbh Kenya should just accept her mother doesn't want to accept her period. I can not imagine the feeling but she cannot keep putting the effort whilst her mother doesn't want her.
+annaisiomaful nah that's way easier said than done. People need closure on things greater and smaller than this so it makes it no different . In my opinion, it's worse. She needs and deserves closure. People wonder why she does the shit she does , shit look at what she has and is going through
I was disappointed in Aunt Lori. Even if she has her sister's back, Kenya still has a right to answers from her mom, and for her to basically tell Kenya she has no rights ... it's a lot of scars and buried hurt in that family that is clearly not being addressed.
+Breanna Unfortunately ln Life WE Don't Always Get The "Answers or Closure" From People That WE Want. SHE Did Get Answers From HER Father The ONLY Other Person That Should Be Involved ln This Situation.
+BriTonya Motley She obviously doesn't talk to her children about the topic and didn't want others introducing it to them. So I understand that. Hopefully though it will encourage Kim to have a one on one conversation with her oldest son in a way that she is comfortable with or possibly her husband will talk to him.
Aunt Lori got on my nerves but when she screamed, "you are just like your mother!", I was like, ok she really is torn between the two. I'll simplify it and compare it to you having a bad breakup but your best friend still kicks it with your ex. It's impossible for Kenya's mom to have a clean break, as with most adoptions, when she has family in contact with her child. It's a messy situation that she has handled poorly. At the most Kenya wants a relationship, at the least she wants closure. She's not getting either one.
it wasn't really an adoption she just gave her to her dad's mom, and Kenya did she saw her throughout her life at family functions, she just completely ignored her
+TheImagine91 it wasn't a legal adoption. The intention was to give her up in a formal way. It was grandma that begged for the baby to remain with family. The decision had already been made by or for the mother.
+snewo Why didn't Kenya's mother just leave town? Cause Kenya still saw her throughout the years. Also it would've been more easier to completely distance herself.
+Joshua McDowell I wish I knew. I think it was Terrell Owens that said his dad lived right across the street from him and never acknowledged him while growing up. People are just weird. I remember being around 9 when I asked my mom why I wasn't living with her. She was just like, your grandma wanted you. Ugh I just left it alone. Lol. I knew that was bs at 9.
I done know why everyone is saying that Kenya's mom has a mental illness. Her mother is a school teacher in Detroit. It's nothing wrong with that lady!!! She's just cold blooded and heartless. Kenya's mom (Patricia Moore) is treating this entire situation very poorly. She too old to be acting like that. At least have 1 conversation with Kenya and give her closure.
I hope Kenya can get her family stuff handled out eventually. I don't blame her for getting loud with aunt Lori. I would want some type of closure too. But we don't know everything so we will just have to wait and see.
The funny thing is The Million Man March did not broadcast on any news station not even a peek. Kim needs to get it together, talking about this is not for kids. Maybe not white kids or Asian kids but definitely for your BLACK kids.
+virtuallyglorious Agree. amd everything she said was factual and true, she could have used this opportunity like Phadera to educate her kids and let them know when they are older that they was there and recap that moment at some time in their lives
I wasn't here for how aunt Lori treated Kenya. Speaking as someone that grew up in a single parent home, I know the pain that takes place when your other parent doesn't want anything to do with you. As much as aunt Lori said she wasn't judging, she was and harshly at that!
+eric brunson She was off camera for almost 40 years before RHOA and nothing was dealt with, so I don't think that matters. The family is holding things back and will continue to do so. Kenya needs to unfortunately face the inevitable that she will not get closure on this situation. It's horrible and unfair to her because she's the child and it shouldn't be her burden to bear. She didn't ask to be born. The only thing she can do is just try to move forward the best way she knows how.
Exactly...Kenya never should have showed up at the birth mom's door with cameras from the show. I wander how Kenya's paternal grand mother, who raised her feels about Kenya constantly trying to make the viewers believe she was totally abandoned without a mother figure all of her life. Birth mothers give children up for a variety of reasons...if the birth mom wasn't willing to have a relationship with Kenya for 45 years in private, what did Kenya think was going to be different with her showing up with cameras from the show. I think it is unfair to demonized the birth mom, when we don't know her story.
I agree with you Ashley regarding the Kenya situation bcuz Aunt Lori was foul AF and the cousin doesn't understand Kenya's need for explanation directly from her mom.
Am I the only who was highly irritated with Kim throughout this episode. She irritates my soul. -____- "Nene still looks like..." LOL I like how you cut the video off right there. Good review. :)
***** I know that's right! I got popped for saying less than that as a kid. That little boy is gonna grow up with his mouth writing checks his ass can't cash. She better start checking him now before it's too late.
I felt Kenya's pain..its just urking how aunt Lori handled her..kenya said they would be in the same room as a child and she would be ignored..that has to be heart breaking..her mom is treating her like some rape victims treat their kids when they have them.. something is deeper is going on and aunt Lori and the daddy are holding back...I hope she gets back on track and moves forward peacefully.. Kim was doing the most on the trip when Phaedra kids are small as well and in control ... glad to see nene and cynthia are giving it another chance
If Aunt Lori didn't want to be in the "middle" she shouldn't have let Kenya move in with her as a teenager. Furthermore she should've told her sister "I understand you don't want Kenya in your life. I'm her aunt so I'll be there for her but I won't discuss Kenya with you and i won't discuss you with Kenya". All she had to do was create boundaries with the the both of them. Now she won't stop complaining she's in the middle. That's your fault.
Also.Aiden is respectful and knows how to act in public. Kim's kids on the other hand are off the hook! Sebastian is VERY rude and needs to sit his as in the corner somewhere and the little baby you can't really blame him because he's 2.
+UltimateBrody Bravo called Nene back because the show was Boring. Nene is the highest paid house wife Ever.... So obviously she adds some value to the show!! Bloop! 💅🏾
+Kim Jackson ummm no! Nene never left the show the whole thing about nene leaving was just a stunt. The whole plan was for her to come back mid-season and she did. How I know? My cousin works on production for the show.
This episode annoyed me 1. Kenya's mom situation and her aunt being as weird as her mom is 2. Kim and her 20 month old baby, look that baby is almost 2 cut that month stuff out, I hate that. Secondly take that pacifier out his mouth! 3. Nene showing up, I wasn't here for it, and stopped watching once she appeared
My parents adopted and raised my aunt's two children along with the six of us. My aunt (mom's baby sister) was unable to care for them, but was around on a regular basis. They knew who their mother was & didn't disrespect her. They both are well adjusted adults with awesome families of their own and great careers. I come from a strong Southern family on my paternal & maternal side and this has been the case on both sides. Family stepped in and took care of their own. What is important is my parents raised them with the truth, so they understood if they had questions they were answered as they came up! They were raised as our brother & sister, but understood they also were our cousins. Truth is the answer! Kenya's case seems to be lacking some truths!
I've been wondering abt Kenya's mom as well. I just assumed that Kenya's mom gave Kenya to her father with the understanding that she would have nothing to do with her and Kenya's mom's sister (can't think of her name) took it upon herself to reach out to Kenya to form a relationship with her, she probably thought she could change the mothers mind but all it did was open up a can of worms with the mother who never wanted the motherly role. It's all extremely sad
the more I see todd(anybody notice how his style changed?) and hear him talk and how he's now trying to capatilize off her family it's like well damn... are you an opportunist?
+Love Moore I was team todd but I don't know now, especially when he left the room when dr.jackie was trying to find the babies heartbeat... you're about to have a child, one that you're actually going to raise from birth and it's a boy at that and you just gone walk out!? nah something ain't right, and I agree about kandi knowing, this episode it just felt like a business partnership, and they got married in lieu of other contracts lol
There was so much hurt in Kenya's voice, so much hurt. I'm not a Kenya fan, but I can sympathize and feel her pain. When she said "I'm not going to do that, no one should do that," made me cry for her. I grew up without my father, that's bad enough, but she didn't have either, so I understand why she is the way she is. It's not an excuse, and I don't condone her behavior, but her situation is unbelievable. What kind of person does that to a child, sitting in the same room, talking to everyone else but her? That was hard to watch. I hope she moves on now. Maybe it was a blessing to not have been raised by her mother.
My issue with Kim leaving her missing vital information that her sons will need once they are from under her thumb. She like many others are afraid and are somewhat removed from OUR, meaning poorer, inner city, black/people of color, situation. The fear of her son getting shot by police is strong and so she sits on them like eggs waiting to be hatched. It's sad to see how introverted she is and I hope that she goes on Wife Swap so she can see tge error of her ways
I feel for Kenya. It's really sad that she can't even get an explanation from her mother. Regardless of tryna let everything go & let God handle it Kenya is still gonna want to go back to get answers it's a mental thing. I have a cousin that went that's going thru a similar situation & she even said she never wanted to see her mother again after she saw her last but she still till this day keeps going back for unanswered questions. Smh so sad.
Kenya had a mother, she had her grandmother as her mother since she was 3 days old. Yet to hear Kenya speak for the last two seasons, you'd think she was totally abandoned. She had a mother-figure in her grandma all of her life. We also learned that when Kenya had the opportunity to live with her father, she ran away back to her grandmother's home. We also see her aunt Lori trying her best to make-up for her sister's inabilities as a mother. I feel that there is something Aunt Lori 'nem are not telling Kenya, if her birth mom had her by way of rape or incest at a time when she was also dating the man Kenya knows as her father then that would explain the birth mom's behavior toward Kenya. And it would also explain why Aunt Lori says, that her sister had every right to give her up....IJS.
And, about Kim Fields. She rubbed me the wrong way on this episode. I'm not sure what she teaches her children, mainly the oldest one, but one thing seemed CLEAR to me....She does not seem to teach her children about black history. They seemed to be very sheltered, and she keeps them in a dream world about the truth about the blood, sweat, and tears that come along w/being a black person(especially males). I thought that it was very BRATTY and DISRESPECTFUL of Kim's son to keep calling things and people stupid. I wanted to go through my TV at him because I don't play with my sons about being respectful to adults. So, Imma need Kim to handle that ASAP!
1) Kim's children need manners and house training- about the foods nasty I'm going to eat at the hotel. Too much choice- and then she's trying to hide her children from LIFE- your child is 8.. How old was Tamar rice when he got shot playing outside his house being a BLACK innocent child.. Teach your children before it's too late. Now 2) Kenyas mum. I'm now totally understanding why Kenya hurts people- she is still that hurt little girl who never felt WANTED. People saying get over it. That's your MUM! The one thing we take for granted she never had. It's clear she just wants her mum to notice her. Not even explain but to acknowledge she's there. And it burned me when Aunt Lori shouted "your just like your mum" how would she know when she doesn't know how her mum is? The cousin saying you can have my mum- but EVERYBODY wants their own mum. Remember mums carry you 9months your first ever bond is with your mother. The whole family is wrong how they've dealt with it
Kim being on the RHOA is a bad look for her and damaging to her brand. She should have never joined the show. Dumb... Now about Kenya part I understand how she feels because my mom is/was somewhat in the same situation (raised by her father and abandon by her mother). Luckily my mom was raised by a wonderful woman of whom I consider to be her real mother, but regardless of that my mom is in her 60's and she is still wants answers on why her bio mom abandoned her and she won't feel satisfied until she hear it from her mouth to end the curiosity, but it's a little to late now cause I'm pretty sure my mom's bio mom is probably dead now so no answers I guess, even tho some people did told my mom on why but it not the same thing and it might not be 100% true. So I understand where Kenya is coming from. Like you said I think she just wants answers, not a relationship. If Kenya bio mom was a common decent human-being she should at least write a long letter explaining everything so that she could give Kenya a resolution. I don't care what anyone say but Kenya bio mom is a fucking bitch, mentally-ill o no mentally-ill, because she's the one who spread her wide open and gave birth just because she was horny. While she have o had a mother, Kenya doesn't and never will. So she should at least do this one thing out of kindness. She don't have to see her, she could give the letter to Nori, o w/e that bitch name is, to give it to Kenya. And I promise Kenya will never ever bothered her again.
Ashley, I looked it up last week and Kenya's mom, Patricia is supposedly a school teacher. Also did you see how scared her dad and stepmom looked when they stopped in front of that house. Her dad pleaded with her not to do it and even stated that he had tried it before. She wont have anything to do with him either.
the Kenya situation is heartbreaking on both sides, there is something deeper that we don't know about, looking at it from another perspective Its better for a mother to give away a child then to keep said child and inflict undue pain and suffering, i belive where the family messed up is having Kenya around her mother knowing that her mother for whatever reason would ignore her herein inflicting unnecessary pain and mental suffering...quite sad for all involved
You have to admit that showing up UNANNOUNCED with cameras and a van full of people was wrong. And Aunt Lori told her, you and your Mama want people to pick sides when both y'all wrong. Kenya needs to get it that she will have to live with this void. It is what it is. It is awful, but it is what it is....
Hey ashley on tonights episode Kenya said she saw her mom at family functions. When she was 3 days old Kenya's mom gave her to her dad's mom and she raised her. Kenya said she saw her at family functions but her mom would speak to everybody and completely ignore Kenya, Kenya was kind of perturbed with the fact that to her it seemes like no one ever spoke up and said Yo bitch! you know this yo chile,
+TheImagine91 OMG! It seems that many people missed this. Kenya has said on more than one episode that she has been around her mom at family functions but her mom just ignored her like she didn't exist. If her Mom never wanted to see her, she should have given Kenya up to a stranger to adopt her instead of letting her father's mother raise her. Kenya's mother is just wrong on so many levels and for the family to allow this for years is crazy. You couldn't be up in my house ignoring my damn niece, I know that!
+rhoyal6 my family wouldn't have allowed that mess either, we're from the south, they would've talked about her mom like she was a dog to her face and then would've got kenya and said baby this is yo mama, then would've told her mother you betta hug that chile or I'm gon whoop yo ass. There has to be something more. It's been 46 years, it's never been a secret that she was kenya's mom, why did she not attempt to at least talk to kenya when she was an adult? And her aunt and cousin looked crazy for coming at her for visiting her mom. I could see them being upset about the cameras but telling her she has no right to go to her mom and talk to her, that just blew my mind
Phadera needs to write a parenting book, you can say whatever about her but her kids are soooo well behaved and you can tell they only need to be scolded once or twice and you can't tell me the camera gods are so kind to her, they just ALWAYS show her kids being good. And andy who sees behind the scene things has even commented on how good Adian is. I really would buy her book on parenting and I don't like Phadera like that.
+DontayMarco You're probably right, but that's something Kenya's mother needs to own and live with. She should've kept her legs closed. Now that she's a woman in her 60s, there's no excuse for being in the same room with your daughter and pretending she doesn't exist. That's cold blooded.
so weird when i hear aunt lori lolx but it's sad thats not something u can brush off, kenya will have to find comfort in the fact that they're all quacks
I feel really bad for Kenya. I can't fathom telling her to move on from wanting answers or a connection with her mom. Moving on, I think that because we are adults and are so used to seeing police brutality that it is easy to grow accustomed to these issues, but the truth is these topics are very triggering. It's triggering even for adults. My younger sister and cousins are 9 and we have not had that talk with them just yet. My sister stumbled upon a video about Sandy Hooks and was so scared and had so many nightmares that my mom had to lie to her and tell her that it did not really happen. It is just too much. Heck, it's too much for me and I am an adult. I'm not ready to see the young people in my family lose their freedom to fears of being killed in a racist society. That is just how I feel about it.
GREAT REVIEW!! I AGREE SHE WANTS ANSWERS AUNT LAURIE SHOULD TELL HER OR THE COUSIN IT WILL BOTHER HER THE REST OF HER LIFE TO FIGURE OUT WHY!!! So dad don't know exactly why the mom feel way she feel. Aunt Laurie did say Kenya don't know what they tell her but why don't she tell her everything that is going on and give Kenya the closure she needs. Kim tries to go back and sugar coat what was being said like its not reality but it is that lil boy that understands needs to know what he is going to be facing as he gets older stop trying to make things look so good when its not. Kim irritated me soo much ugghhh!!!
I think with the Kenya situation is the mother didnt want her...was probably about to give her up for adoption but the dads mom was like Ill take care of her...but it is 2 folds to this...Kenyas mom had the right to give her up and not want to be a part of her life...however I believe if the family was gonna tell Kenya who her mom is...they should of gave her the whole story on why and been there to answer any questions Kenya has/had...they are just sweeping it under the rug in hopes it goes away. The dad gave his side but it would be nice to hear frmo the mom...I know some people that have been adopted and have looked for their birth mother and she didnt want anything to do with them so they had to find their own closure with the situation. I do kinda feel bad for her but wish she would handle this off camera and maybe her mom would be more open to talking to her.
I wasn't mad at Kim because the setting wasn't kid friendly & nobody else brought their kids besides Sheree but he's 19 & mature enough & he didn't even show until the march & I can understand why Pheadra had to bring Aiden. I did think that Kim shouldn't have brought her kids though & brought herself.
Am I missing something since when did Cynthia and Nene are back friends again like nothing ever happened. Kenya needs to have a conversation with her mother eventually because she will not grow until that happens. The reason why her relationships with men fail is because of her shattered relationships with her mother and father and that is key.
+Robert Too Cool Cynthia is seriously obsessed with Nene. I don't know what it is, but I feel like there's more to that relationship than what meets the eye. **Sips tea**
I'm shocked beyond believe that Cynthia was down playing her friendship with kenya in front of nene. I'm all for Cynthia and nene rekindling their friendship however, Cynthia doesn't need to be in the middle of their situation but she could tell both of her friends to be respectful of each other. I like Cynthia better when she is around Kenya vs.nene. Kenya uplifts her and nene breaks her down.
+Sea-nura Cynthia is fake and phony. She was only "friends" with Kenya because Nene wasn't around. Now that Nene is back in her life, Cynthia has no more use for Kenya. I always knew this would happen.
On this episode I have been in Kenya shoes. I think that this issues goes deeper for Kenya. I think that Kenya is trying to discover why she does things a certain way. For example every time I played the piano when I was an little girl. A lot of people who grew up with my father said that I reminded them of him. Somebody some where in Kenya family needs to give her the real talk.
Kim really does let her kids run her it was making me cringe. Sharee's son ooooh gawd he is HANDSOME. Kenya's situation was making me angry for her. How dare you give birth to me and act like I don't have a right to talk to you. Then nene and Cynthia. That whole meet up was just odd.
In my opinion, Kenya just want answers like why didn't you want me, why did you give birth to me, why didn't you just have an abortion? People seems to think that Kenya just wanted to air this scene for a storyline but she's no different from Phaedra, Nene, Cynthia, Kandi, and Porscha, they all air their crap on TV, it reality. I really don't care if Aunt Lori ever bring her dusty self back on the show.
While I do agree the young boys need to hear the conversation regarding what's going on in our community and what's been going on, I do feel that it needs to be told to them in a way children can grasp. Children don't usually grasp such heavy situations in the same way adults do. And those boys it seems haven't been exposed to that topic much if any, I feel it would need to be more one on one as opposed to throwing them into a room full of grown ups saying white people dont like black people...it's too many concepts, factors, situations, etc that they would need to comprehend to get the whole picture
+K Nichole a young black boy, not too much older than Kim Fields oldest who was killed just for playing. Given situations like this, these kids NEED to know what's going on and what they need to do because these are the times we live in. Yeah, he's young but he needs to know it now.
+Ashley Miller yea, that's pretty much what I was saying, that I agree they need to know, only that it's just so touchy and so many different levels to all this shit that it needs to be explained to children in ways children can grasp...a child's mind isn't as sophisticated as an adult's (most of the time) and I think it's dangerous just to teach a child, for example, white people kill us and leave it at that...it's so much more that needs to be explained and in ways children can comprehend, being careful not to give them the message to be fearful, completely distrustful, or even racist themselves. Bc when my old classmate who's a BLM activist, her son who's often out there w her (he's 6), got hurt at school and freaked out when the security guard who was white tried to help him bc he thought he was gonna hurt him.
Hello Ashley. About Kenya. Kenya ' s mother was 14 yrs old when she had Kenya. Her mother was going to give her up for adoption but Kenya's father mother begged to keep and raise the baby. So that's what happen with the raising of Kenya.
Nene coming back was no excitement, it felt stale, then I see Cynthia licking ass... she better stay strong and new- that Cynthia! I actually feel pain for Kenya never been a fan but I could not imagine that type of pain.... I understand it and relate to it, but to be ignored from birth and then you see your birth mother at family functions when you are growing up and she ignores you??!! Nah... I kinda understand Kenya's ways now... kinda forgive her for them too! Kim...hmmm she just does not suit the show. Kim needs to have assistance and stop trying to be super mum. YOU NEED SOME SUPPORT! She needs to make more of an effort with dressing them. Nothing wrong with help and assistance as a professional! That's why she doesn't have a social life! Get a team = have a life. Porsha was too skanky, making a joke out of everything far too immature, not the best representative for her grandaddy's legacy! Great they focused on positive Black events. Kandi's family are hilarious as always I am SURE there will be a spin off show about the restaurant business.... Interesting show this week...
+Master Junior Well its actually not hard. I don't excuse Kenya mom at all. But guys be having mad kids and leaving state or stay right where they are and ignore them.. I think its wierd as f we keep saying her mom must be crazy or been rape. Incest might happen or the lady just selfish. we don't know and for everyone saying it needs be discussed off camara. why?? If you want be real with it.show the mom at work or if she retired catch her at store and ask her is there a reason you dont want to talk to your daughter. If she dont wanna talk well there you have it. She has hear reasons but didnt want to share so. We know get to talk shit. Sometimes rude as people require rude behavior to wake up.
My grandmother adopted me, it is rare I say my mom abandoned me. If anything I abandoned her because from day one my grandmother was my mom to me. I call Rolonda(my birth mom) by her name and behind her back an egg donor.
I just saw a photo of Kenya's mom. She's a Special Ed. teacher. I might be wrong, but Kenya's mom might be "special needs" patient herself. My nextdoor neighbor could almost pass as her twin. And my neighbor is special needs on very heavy sedative medication -- she still functions to a degree -- but she real slow (mentally) and has the mind of a 12 or 13 year old. She too, works, as a teacher's aide at a school nearby in the Special Ed department. I'm just wondering about Kenya's mom....she looks alot like my neighbor and they have that same "look" about the eyes like she's on meds. If this is the case, that may be why she's guarded. That maybe Kenya's father is also special ed and they hooked up early in life....she got pregnant and it may have been the WAY she got pregnant that messd her up in the mind. Kenya's father (as we've seen on RHOA) is extrememly outspoken, blunt, aggressive and one might even say "kinda ignorant". In their youth, while dating, he may have been physically, mentally, emotionally or even sexually abusive to Kenya's mother and that THAT is why she rejects Kenya. That she might be still harboring fear and hate for Kenya's dad and that she sees Kenya (however innocent of the situation) as a product of that abuse or experience. If you notice, Kenya's father seems a little off balance and a little slow.. Looking at Kenya's mother's photo, and what I'm assuming -- they both are special. I feel for Kenya and I hope she can come to understand ...if this is the case....that it was a blessing that her Aunt Lori took her in and raised her to be the beautiful, intelligent woman she has turned out to be. The Lord works in mysterious ways. That it was for her "good" that things turned out the way they did. That she will come to accept and understand that if what I'm assuming is correct, that her mother nor father were mentally equipped to raise her. And that her mother's mental condition is very fragile and what I assumed may have occurred between the mother & father may have taken a toll on her mother mentally and psychologically that she is incapable of getting past it. And to be reminded of it or forced to be put back in the mix of it , would be devastating to her. Hoping Kenya can just know that her mother loves her....she is just incapable of acknowledging it or accepting it. Show less
her aunt did say she has discuss the matter with her sister several times but don't expect her to jump on her or what not, I truly feel kenya should just let it go. No sense in beating a dead horse. She has allowed this situation to grab ahold of her and bring out the worse in her. I feel once she let it go she can actually be more fulfilled and can actually move on with her life!
my situation is nearly similar to Kenya with the mom thing...my mother's older sister put my mom in her place about how she treated my brother and me...my aunt is for right..right is right. period..
Love your review. I think this episode was great and the Rhoa are really bringing a lot of real issues to light! I love this season. So real! Even though I think Kenya fishing for a storyline... I do feel for her and her mother family. I hope they settle all this off camera and get therapy. Kim needs a nanny or family help. This is why it's hard to have kids post 40. Love Sheree this season! I was happy to see NeNe
I feel like it's some secrets the Moores are keeping from Kenya. Patricia Moores sisters both had kids out of wedlock before Kenya was born and they were raised in the Moores house, I believe. One of the kids was raised by Pats parents as their child, not grandchild. They took their daughter, Kenyas Aunt Carol Moore, to the hospital when she gave birth secretly, telling the family that the girl had a stomach ache. I feel like the Moores are dysfunctional and Kenya could very well be the product of incest at the hands of Patricia's father, which is Kenyas maternal grandfather.
I read a lot of comments saying kenya's mom must have been raped and stuff.... my best friend had a child after being raped and she loves her child more than anything on earth. Kenya really needs to let it go...Her mom wanted to put her up for adoption she should have instead of listenning to the grandmother. It seems like Kenya's questions have already been answerred...She is 40 she has to understand and move on now plus really I think she is just bringing that up for ratings, to actually have a storyline and for people to like her. Don't forget who she is people.
Kenya already knew her birth Mom didn't want a relationship with her, before she went there with the camera. I think it was more about promoting her new book. Mom or not, you can't force a relationship with anyone who doesn't want one. Kenya's Dad said he's told her the reasons before, its not right, but its the way it is.
It's so easy for people to say get over it. But she wants closure regarding a relationship with her mother. I couldn't let it go if I were in her shoes.
We don't know what the reason Kenya's mother is the way she is, all we know is what we see on this show. Kenya said she would see her mother at family functions and the mother would ignore her. So why didn't she confront her mother then and not look for answers on national T V. She is fortunate that she know who her mother is and her maternal family. Others are not so fortunate that they never know who their biological parents are. You can't force interaction if the other person do not want it.
I agreed with Kimm. It's up to her what she wants her son to hear. Or how she wants them to hear it. I did think that the way the lady said it was harsh. She should have left the boys home. And she needs to get them some hair cuts.
Did anybody else pay attention to the fact that Kenya would not allow Aunt Lori to fully speak because Aunt Lori was trying to say something about her having this opportunity in other time but she chose to bring the cameras with her (attempting to capitalize on the situation)? Kenya's met her mother before!
+Kim S Kenya has been around her mother several times at family functions and her mother acted like she didn't exist. She spoke to everyone but Kenya. I don't know how you can have an "opportunity" to get answers from someone who ignored you for 45 years. If the issue wasn't resolved before Kenya went on RHOA, what makes you think the cameras are the problem? The mother is the problem, as is the rest of the family. They owe that girl some closure. She didn't ask to be born and tossed off like a rag doll to the next available family member.
+Kim S You must have missed Kenya saying in this episode and others that she has been around her mother on several occasions at family functions all her life but her mother just ignored her as if she didn't exist.
Great Review! Just wanted to share a different perspective on the Kenya situation. I totally understand the situation that Kenya is going through due to experiencing something such as this myself. Aunt Lori's answer was correct. Kenya does not have the right to force her mother to speak with her. A woman having a baby does not make her a mother and her mother did not want the responsibility. Her mother is a person that does not owe her an explanation for not taking the responsibility. The reason the families are not speaking because it is not their place to speak for Kenya's mother. I think there is a family secret. However, I think they are not saying because Kenya is not ready to hear because she has not let it go and to tell her would open a pandora's box and Kenya may not heal if she was to know the whole truth. I have come to learn sometimes you don't want to know everything because it can get ugly and shameful.
Also, I'm over Kim! She acts like her life is sooooo hard!! 🙄 Granted, she has two children but she needs to stop acting like the World revolves around her and her family. Come out of your little bubble and LIVE!!! If it was too much for her to be on the trip, then STAY AT HOME. It's the same excuses with her every time there's an activity that doesn't evolve her kids and/or husband! GIRL BYE!! She acts snobbish, pretentious and stuck up.
+KelRom812 Agreed. She's annoying as hell. I was through with her ass after she started crying because the other ladies were DANCING and she couldn't understand why they were having fun! If she was serious about finding herself, she wouldn't be so damn stubborn. I want her off the show. This is not the show for her. Bye, Tootie.
I'm so tired of hearing Kenya's mom was too young and her dad didn't approve of an illegitimate child. Got it! When her mom turned 18 she's legal. What's the excuse? Her mom turns 21. What's the excuse? Her mom turns 30. What's the excuse? My point is...once Kenya's mother became an adult (out of dad's house, own a home and car, job or career) using her dad as an excuse is no longer acceptable. If she wanted her daughter once she got her life together she would have found Kenya and made up for lost time. It's that simple. I also feel it isn't my place to say "girl get over it" because I don't know how it feels to have a mother that totally treats me as an invisible being. It's sad. My heart goes out to Kenya. I do agree with one thing Kenya said about being in in the same room with her mom and all the family members ignore the fact that Kenya's mom will walk right pass her. Not cool.
tbh Kenya should just accept her mother doesn't want to accept her period. I can not imagine the feeling but she cannot keep putting the effort whilst her mother doesn't want her.
+annaisiomaful nah that's way easier said than done. People need closure on things greater and smaller than this so it makes it no different . In my opinion, it's worse. She needs and deserves closure. People wonder why she does the shit she does , shit look at what she has and is going through
+Luving U4eva this.
+Luving U4eva Someone understands:)
exactly
I was disappointed in Aunt Lori. Even if she has her sister's back, Kenya still has a right to answers from her mom, and for her to basically tell Kenya she has no rights ... it's a lot of scars and buried hurt in that family that is clearly not being addressed.
I totally agree with you Breanna!
+Breanna Unfortunately ln Life WE Don't Always Get The "Answers or Closure" From People That WE Want. SHE Did Get Answers From HER Father The ONLY Other Person That Should Be Involved ln This Situation.
Kim should've left her kids AT HOME. What a concept! And her 8yr old has a mouth that should've been check with a quickness. Tacky, tacky tacky.
I was thinking he had a sassy mouth just in how he addressed Phaedra.
Oakcliffsweety Texas in the house?
***** Yeah, Kim has her hands full. She acts like she's a single mother lol.
+Star Mac And you know it!!! lol
Oakcliffsweety Lol me too! Ft Wth
Kim needs to take those blinders off. She is doing her boys a grave disservice
Kim really needed to take advantage of this situation. It could have been a GREAT learning experience. I'm disappointed in her.
+BriTonya Motley She obviously doesn't talk to her children about the topic and didn't want others introducing it to them. So I understand that. Hopefully though it will encourage Kim to have a one on one conversation with her oldest son in a way that she is comfortable with or possibly her husband will talk to him.
When Sebastian was standing there in Phaedras camera I died 😂😂💀
+Arusha Braithwaite LOL did you heard Phaedra say "oh lord" and quickly put the camera down. I died laughing.
+Kiana Mae I was wondering why she did that!!!!!!!! I thought it was too funny.
D. Jackson Ikr, I hope someody gif that.
😂😂 I had real tears... Phaedra is so wrong for that
😂😂😂 I was dying laughing at that part.
Aunt Lori got on my nerves but when she screamed, "you are just like your mother!", I was like, ok she really is torn between the two. I'll simplify it and compare it to you having a bad breakup but your best friend still kicks it with your ex. It's impossible for Kenya's mom to have a clean break, as with most adoptions, when she has family in contact with her child. It's a messy situation that she has handled poorly. At the most Kenya wants a relationship, at the least she wants closure. She's not getting either one.
it wasn't really an adoption she just gave her to her dad's mom, and Kenya did she saw her throughout her life at family functions, she just completely ignored her
+TheImagine91 it wasn't a legal adoption. The intention was to give her up in a formal way. It was grandma that begged for the baby to remain with family. The decision had already been made by or for the mother.
+snewo ahh yea, i wouldn't even call it an adoption, just extended baby sitting...extremely extended lol
+snewo Why didn't Kenya's mother just leave town? Cause Kenya still saw her throughout the years. Also it would've been more easier to completely distance herself.
+Joshua McDowell I wish I knew. I think it was Terrell Owens that said his dad lived right across the street from him and never acknowledged him while growing up. People are just weird. I remember being around 9 when I asked my mom why I wasn't living with her. She was just like, your grandma wanted you. Ugh I just left it alone. Lol. I knew that was bs at 9.
I done know why everyone is saying that Kenya's mom has a mental illness. Her mother is a school teacher in Detroit. It's nothing wrong with that lady!!! She's just cold blooded and heartless. Kenya's mom (Patricia Moore) is treating this entire situation very poorly. She too old to be acting like that. At least have 1 conversation with Kenya and give her closure.
*don't
+LadyElleTee She has an illness alright, cold-blooded heart disease!
+Danielle Wynn That's right! lol
I hope Kenya can get her family stuff handled out eventually. I don't blame her for getting loud with aunt Lori. I would want some type of closure too. But we don't know everything so we will just have to wait and see.
+joelle gillespie Or at least tell her why her mother didn't want her. Kenya just want answers.
+Joshua McDowell yep
Kenya's mama was a teen mom in the 70's that is different than being a teen mom now
The funny thing is The Million Man March did not broadcast on any news station not even a peek. Kim needs to get it together, talking about this is not for kids. Maybe not white kids or Asian kids but definitely for your BLACK kids.
+virtuallyglorious Agree. amd everything she said was factual and true, she could have used this opportunity like Phadera to educate her kids and let them know when they are older that they was there and recap that moment at some time in their lives
I wasn't here for how aunt Lori treated Kenya. Speaking as someone that grew up in a single parent home, I know the pain that takes place when your other parent doesn't want anything to do with you. As much as aunt Lori said she wasn't judging, she was and harshly at that!
Kenya's mom seems to have alot of anger and resentment towards her, which leads to me to believe something really horrible happened to her mother.
that's what I'm thinking. maybe her mom went through a traumatic situation that has something to do with Kenya while pregnant.
Kenya's family clearly hasn't handled this well but I think it's something that should be dealt with off camera
Smart man! Great opinion!
+eric brunson She was off camera for almost 40 years before RHOA and nothing was dealt with, so I don't think that matters. The family is holding things back and will continue to do so. Kenya needs to unfortunately face the inevitable that she will not get closure on this situation. It's horrible and unfair to her because she's the child and it shouldn't be her burden to bear. She didn't ask to be born. The only thing she can do is just try to move forward the best way she knows how.
agree
+UltimateBrody 100% AGREED!! Well said...
Exactly...Kenya never should have showed up at the birth mom's door with cameras from the show. I wander how Kenya's paternal grand mother, who raised her feels about Kenya constantly trying to make the viewers believe she was totally abandoned without a mother figure all of her life. Birth mothers give children up for a variety of reasons...if the birth mom wasn't willing to have a relationship with Kenya for 45 years in private, what did Kenya think was going to be different with her showing up with cameras from the show. I think it is unfair to demonized the birth mom, when we don't know her story.
I agree with you Ashley regarding the Kenya situation bcuz Aunt Lori was foul AF and the cousin doesn't understand Kenya's need for explanation directly from her mom.
Your impersonation of mama Joyce's voice kills mel!!!
Am I the only who was highly irritated with Kim throughout this episode. She irritates my soul. -____-
"Nene still looks like..." LOL I like how you cut the video off right there. Good review. :)
+Kiana Mae No you're definitely not the only one. She and her hideous blonde wig collection can exit stage left ASAP.
UltimateBrody Don't even get me started with her disrespectful son. If I said that, my mom would've popped me on the mouth.
***** I know that's right! I got popped for saying less than that as a kid. That little boy is gonna grow up with his mouth writing checks his ass can't cash. She better start checking him now before it's too late.
UltimateBrody I know right, he's going to learn one day. Kim should've kept the younger boy in Atlanta. He was working my nerves too.
ikr it bothers me that she trys to sugar coat stuff
I felt Kenya's pain..its just urking how aunt Lori handled her..kenya said they would be in the same room as a child and she would be ignored..that has to be heart breaking..her mom is treating her like some rape victims treat their kids when they have them.. something is deeper is going on and aunt Lori and the daddy are holding back...I hope she gets back on track and moves forward peacefully.. Kim was doing the most on the trip when Phaedra kids are small as well and in control ... glad to see nene and cynthia are giving it another chance
kyro has grown into his looks #handsome
+French Toast yes it would be ...kenya could do a good story off this
+French Toast Lori is Kenya's mother's older sister
If Aunt Lori didn't want to be in the "middle" she shouldn't have let Kenya move in with her as a teenager. Furthermore she should've told her sister "I understand you don't want Kenya in your life. I'm her aunt so I'll be there for her but I won't discuss Kenya with you and i won't discuss you with Kenya". All she had to do was create boundaries with the the both of them. Now she won't stop complaining she's in the middle. That's your fault.
Melissa McGee
Right.
Also.Aiden is respectful and knows how to act in public. Kim's kids on the other hand are off the hook! Sebastian is VERY rude and needs to sit his as in the corner somewhere and the little baby you can't really blame him because he's 2.
I didn't miss Nene at all.
+snewo Me either. She can go back to wherever she came from.
+UltimateBrody Bravo called Nene back because the show was Boring. Nene is the highest paid house wife Ever.... So obviously she adds some value to the show!! Bloop! 💅🏾
+Kim Jackson Bloop!
+Kim Jackson ummm no! Nene never left the show the whole thing about nene leaving was just a stunt. The whole plan was for her to come back mid-season and she did. How I know? My cousin works on production for the show.
***** you might be right
This episode annoyed me
1. Kenya's mom situation and her aunt being as weird as her mom is
2. Kim and her 20 month old baby, look that baby is almost 2 cut that month stuff out, I hate that. Secondly take that pacifier out his mouth!
3. Nene showing up, I wasn't here for it, and stopped watching once she appeared
My parents adopted and raised my aunt's two children along with the six of us. My aunt (mom's baby sister) was unable to care for them, but was around on a regular basis. They knew who their mother was & didn't disrespect her. They both are well adjusted adults with awesome families of their own and great careers. I come from a strong Southern family on my paternal & maternal side and this has been the case on both sides. Family stepped in and took care of their own. What is important is my parents raised them with the truth, so they understood if they had questions they were answered as they came up! They were raised as our brother & sister, but understood they also were our cousins. Truth is the answer! Kenya's case seems to be lacking some truths!
I've been wondering abt Kenya's mom as well. I just assumed that Kenya's mom gave Kenya to her father with the understanding that she would have nothing to do with her and Kenya's mom's sister (can't think of her name) took it upon herself to reach out to Kenya to form a relationship with her, she probably thought she could change the mothers mind but all it did was open up a can of worms with the mother who never wanted the motherly role. It's all extremely sad
I legit don't understand why Kim is on the show... She doesn't wanna do anything 🙄
the more I see todd(anybody notice how his style changed?) and hear him talk and how he's now trying to capatilize off her family it's like well damn... are you an opportunist?
+Love Moore I was team todd but I don't know now, especially when he left the room when dr.jackie was trying to find the babies heartbeat... you're about to have a child, one that you're actually going to raise from birth and it's a boy at that and you just gone walk out!? nah something ain't right, and I agree about kandi knowing, this episode it just felt like a business partnership, and they got married in lieu of other contracts lol
There was so much hurt in Kenya's voice, so much hurt.
I'm not a Kenya fan, but I can sympathize and feel her pain. When she said "I'm not going to do that, no one should do that," made me cry for her. I grew up without my father, that's bad enough, but she didn't have either, so I understand why she is the way she is. It's not an excuse, and I don't condone her behavior, but her situation is unbelievable. What kind of person does that to a child, sitting in the same room, talking to everyone else but her? That was hard to watch. I hope she moves on now. Maybe it was a blessing to not have been raised by her mother.
I had to laugh at you stopping mid-review to compliment your skin. Funny.
My issue with Kim leaving her missing vital information that her sons will need once they are from under her thumb. She like many others are afraid and are somewhat removed from OUR, meaning poorer, inner city, black/people of color, situation. The fear of her son getting shot by police is strong and so she sits on them like eggs waiting to be hatched. It's sad to see how introverted she is and I hope that she goes on Wife Swap so she can see tge error of her ways
Kim would have a mental breakdown if she went on Wife Swap.
very good review Ashley.
+Lady Nyca thanks, Nyca
Did anyone see Phadrea throw shade filming Kim's son Sebastian on the bus? Lmao 🙌😂😂
"You fuckin' up the curl pattern!" lmao
Kim's oldest son is 8 years old. That's old enough to go to the White house on a field trip so he should have behaved better.
I feel for Kenya. It's really sad that she can't even get an explanation from her mother. Regardless of tryna let everything go & let God handle it Kenya is still gonna want to go back to get answers it's a mental thing. I have a cousin that went that's going thru a similar situation & she even said she never wanted to see her mother again after she saw her last but she still till this day keeps going back for unanswered questions. Smh so sad.
Kenya had a mother, she had her grandmother as her mother since she was 3 days old. Yet to hear Kenya speak for the last two seasons, you'd think she was totally abandoned. She had a mother-figure in her grandma all of her life. We also learned that when Kenya had the opportunity to live with her father, she ran away back to her grandmother's home. We also see her aunt Lori trying her best to make-up for her sister's inabilities as a mother. I feel that there is something Aunt Lori 'nem are not telling Kenya, if her birth mom had her by way of rape or incest at a time when she was also dating the man Kenya knows as her father then that would explain the birth mom's behavior toward Kenya. And it would also explain why Aunt Lori says, that her sister had every right to give her up....IJS.
And, about Kim Fields. She rubbed me the wrong way on this episode. I'm not sure what she teaches her children, mainly the oldest one, but one thing seemed CLEAR to me....She does not seem to teach her children about black history. They seemed to be very sheltered, and she keeps them in a dream world about the truth about the blood, sweat, and tears that come along w/being a black person(especially males). I thought that it was very BRATTY and DISRESPECTFUL of Kim's son to keep calling things and people stupid. I wanted to go through my TV at him because I don't play with my sons about being respectful to adults. So, Imma need Kim to handle that ASAP!
Kenya has a reason to feel the way she does. I sympathize with her. The problem is the mic, the camera, the public audience.
1) Kim's children need manners and house training- about the foods nasty I'm going to eat at the hotel. Too much choice- and then she's trying to hide her children from LIFE- your child is 8.. How old was Tamar rice when he got shot playing outside his house being a BLACK innocent child.. Teach your children before it's too late. Now 2) Kenyas mum. I'm now totally understanding why Kenya hurts people- she is still that hurt little girl who never felt WANTED. People saying get over it. That's your MUM! The one thing we take for granted she never had. It's clear she just wants her mum to notice her. Not even explain but to acknowledge she's there. And it burned me when Aunt Lori shouted "your just like your mum" how would she know when she doesn't know how her mum is? The cousin saying you can have my mum- but EVERYBODY wants their own mum. Remember mums carry you 9months your first ever bond is with your mother. The whole family is wrong how they've dealt with it
Yo impersonation of mama Joyce is on point!! 😂😂
Kim being on the RHOA is a bad look for her and damaging to her brand. She should have never joined the show. Dumb... Now about Kenya part I understand how she feels because my mom is/was somewhat in the same situation (raised by her father and abandon by her mother). Luckily my mom was raised by a wonderful woman of whom I consider to be her real mother, but regardless of that my mom is in her 60's and she is still wants answers on why her bio mom abandoned her and she won't feel satisfied until she hear it from her mouth to end the curiosity, but it's a little to late now cause I'm pretty sure my mom's bio mom is probably dead now so no answers I guess, even tho some people did told my mom on why but it not the same thing and it might not be 100% true. So I understand where Kenya is coming from. Like you said I think she just wants answers, not a relationship.
If Kenya bio mom was a common decent human-being she should at least write a long letter explaining everything so that she could give Kenya a resolution. I don't care what anyone say but Kenya bio mom is a fucking bitch, mentally-ill o no mentally-ill, because she's the one who spread her wide open and gave birth just because she was horny. While she have o had a mother, Kenya doesn't and never will. So she should at least do this one thing out of kindness. She don't have to see her, she could give the letter to Nori, o w/e that bitch name is, to give it to Kenya. And I promise Kenya will never ever bothered her again.
Ashley, I looked it up last week and Kenya's mom, Patricia is supposedly a school teacher. Also did you see how scared her dad and stepmom looked when they stopped in front of that house. Her dad pleaded with her not to do it and even stated that he had tried it before. She wont have anything to do with him either.
the Kenya situation is heartbreaking on both sides, there is something deeper that we don't know about, looking at it from another perspective Its better for a mother to give away a child then to keep said child and inflict undue pain and suffering, i belive where the family messed up is having Kenya around her mother knowing that her mother for whatever reason would ignore her herein inflicting unnecessary pain and mental suffering...quite sad for all involved
You have to admit that showing up UNANNOUNCED with cameras and a van full of people was wrong. And Aunt Lori told her, you and your Mama want people to pick sides when both y'all wrong. Kenya needs to get it that she will have to live with this void. It is what it is. It is awful, but it is what it is....
Hey ashley on tonights episode Kenya said she saw her mom at family functions. When she was 3 days old Kenya's mom gave her to her dad's mom and she raised her. Kenya said she saw her at family functions but her mom would speak to everybody and completely ignore Kenya, Kenya was kind of perturbed with the fact that to her it seemes like no one ever spoke up and said Yo bitch! you know this yo chile,
+TheImagine91 OMG! It seems that many people missed this. Kenya has said on more than one episode that she has been around her mom at family functions but her mom just ignored her like she didn't exist. If her Mom never wanted to see her, she should have given Kenya up to a stranger to adopt her instead of letting her father's mother raise her. Kenya's mother is just wrong on so many levels and for the family to allow this for years is crazy. You couldn't be up in my house ignoring my damn niece, I know that!
+rhoyal6 my family wouldn't have allowed that mess either, we're from the south, they would've talked about her mom like she was a dog to her face and then would've got kenya and said baby this is yo mama, then would've told her mother you betta hug that chile or I'm gon whoop yo ass. There has to be something more. It's been 46 years, it's never been a secret that she was kenya's mom, why did she not attempt to at least talk to kenya when she was an adult? And her aunt and cousin looked crazy for coming at her for visiting her mom. I could see them being upset about the cameras but telling her she has no right to go to her mom and talk to her, that just blew my mind
Phadera needs to write a parenting book, you can say whatever about her but her kids are soooo well behaved and you can tell they only need to be scolded once or twice and you can't tell me the camera gods are so kind to her, they just ALWAYS show her kids being good. And andy who sees behind the scene things has even commented on how good Adian is. I really would buy her book on parenting and I don't like Phadera like that.
Ashley!! you gone make me come to Chicago & get you for that mama Joyce impersonation😂😂😂
I think Kenya reminds her mom of the shame she brought on her family by having a child out of wedlock.
+DontayMarco You're probably right, but that's something Kenya's mother needs to own and live with. She should've kept her legs closed. Now that she's a woman in her 60s, there's no excuse for being in the same room with your daughter and pretending she doesn't exist. That's cold blooded.
Kim is not preparing her black boys by omitting the truth. You can explain the situation in an age appropriate manner.
Your Mama Joyce voice always cracks me up😂
so weird when i hear aunt lori lolx but it's sad thats not something u can brush off, kenya will have to find comfort in the fact that they're all quacks
I feel really bad for Kenya. I can't fathom telling her to move on from wanting answers or a connection with her mom. Moving on, I think that because we are adults and are so used to seeing police brutality that it is easy to grow accustomed to these issues, but the truth is these topics are very triggering. It's triggering even for adults. My younger sister and cousins are 9 and we have not had that talk with them just yet. My sister stumbled upon a video about Sandy Hooks and was so scared and had so many nightmares that my mom had to lie to her and tell her that it did not really happen. It is just too much. Heck, it's too much for me and I am an adult. I'm not ready to see the young people in my family lose their freedom to fears of being killed in a racist society. That is just how I feel about it.
1:43 that's real...my mom didn't allow me to perm my hair until I was 17 years old.
omgggg u do the best mama Joyce impressions 😂😂
I'm sorry, but Kenya's mom would've just had to catch these fistacuffs. Matter of fact, the whole family could have caught the fade. 👊👊👊
+pinkchiffonluv LMAO
As an adoptee your analysis about Kenya is on point!! Nice insight!
GREAT REVIEW!! I AGREE SHE WANTS ANSWERS AUNT LAURIE SHOULD TELL HER OR THE COUSIN IT WILL BOTHER HER THE REST OF HER LIFE TO FIGURE OUT WHY!!! So dad don't know exactly why the mom feel way she feel. Aunt Laurie did say Kenya don't know what they tell her but why don't she tell her everything that is going on and give Kenya the closure she needs. Kim tries to go back and sugar coat what was being said like its not reality but it is that lil boy that understands needs to know what he is going to be facing as he gets older stop trying to make things look so good when its not. Kim irritated me soo much ugghhh!!!
I think with the Kenya situation is the mother didnt want her...was probably about to give her up for adoption but the dads mom was like Ill take care of her...but it is 2 folds to this...Kenyas mom had the right to give her up and not want to be a part of her life...however I believe if the family was gonna tell Kenya who her mom is...they should of gave her the whole story on why and been there to answer any questions Kenya has/had...they are just sweeping it under the rug in hopes it goes away. The dad gave his side but it would be nice to hear frmo the mom...I know some people that have been adopted and have looked for their birth mother and she didnt want anything to do with them so they had to find their own closure with the situation. I do kinda feel bad for her but wish she would handle this off camera and maybe her mom would be more open to talking to her.
I wasn't mad at Kim because the setting wasn't kid friendly & nobody else brought their kids besides Sheree but he's 19 & mature enough & he didn't even show until the march & I can understand why Pheadra had to bring Aiden. I did think that Kim shouldn't have brought her kids though & brought herself.
you killed me with that Mama Joyce voice.
those mama Joyce impersonations 😂😂
Am I missing something since when did Cynthia and Nene are back friends again like nothing ever happened. Kenya needs to have a conversation with her mother eventually because she will not grow until that happens. The reason why her relationships with men fail is because of her shattered relationships with her mother and father and that is key.
+Robert Too Cool Cynthia is seriously obsessed with Nene. I don't know what it is, but I feel like there's more to that relationship than what meets the eye. **Sips tea**
"help yo mama bitch" I'm sorry but I laughed incredibly loud at all. I just got on your vids and I'm addicted.
I'm shocked beyond believe that Cynthia was down playing her friendship with kenya in front of nene. I'm all for Cynthia and nene rekindling their friendship however, Cynthia doesn't need to be in the middle of their situation but she could tell both of her friends to be respectful of each other. I like Cynthia better when she is around Kenya vs.nene. Kenya uplifts her and nene breaks her down.
+Sea-nura Cynthia is fake and phony. She was only "friends" with Kenya because Nene wasn't around. Now that Nene is back in her life, Cynthia has no more use for Kenya. I always knew this would happen.
On this episode I have been in Kenya shoes. I think that this issues goes deeper for Kenya. I think that Kenya is trying to discover why she does things a certain way. For example every time I played the piano when I was an little girl. A lot of people who grew up with my father said that I reminded them of him. Somebody some where in Kenya family needs to give her the real talk.
You can tell Kim's sons run their home! I wonder why she didn't leave her youngest son at home with his dad.
"Apple cider vinegar and black soap Bitch" Ashley, you are a KeeKee! LOL
Kim really does let her kids run her it was making me cringe. Sharee's son ooooh gawd he is HANDSOME. Kenya's situation was making me angry for her. How dare you give birth to me and act like I don't have a right to talk to you. Then nene and Cynthia. That whole meet up was just odd.
I dead at 25:13 you was like Nene looks and then the video ended 😂😂😂😂😂
Although I like Kim but Kim needs to make her sons learn about reality in life.
In my opinion, Kenya just want answers like why didn't you want me, why did you give birth to me, why didn't you just have an abortion? People seems to think that Kenya just wanted to air this scene for a storyline but she's no different from Phaedra, Nene, Cynthia, Kandi, and Porscha, they all air their crap on TV, it reality. I really don't care if Aunt Lori ever bring her dusty self back on the show.
I live for the moments you talk to yourself in the third person lmbo
Your mama Joyce impersonations 😩😩😩
While I do agree the young boys need to hear the conversation regarding what's going on in our community and what's been going on, I do feel that it needs to be told to them in a way children can grasp. Children don't usually grasp such heavy situations in the same way adults do. And those boys it seems haven't been exposed to that topic much if any, I feel it would need to be more one on one as opposed to throwing them into a room full of grown ups saying white people dont like black people...it's too many concepts, factors, situations, etc that they would need to comprehend to get the whole picture
But I do feel like Kim overreacted
And that's why we have situations like Tamir Rice
+Ashley Miller disagree? Elaborate?
+K Nichole a young black boy, not too much older than Kim Fields oldest who was killed just for playing. Given situations like this, these kids NEED to know what's going on and what they need to do because these are the times we live in. Yeah, he's young but he needs to know it now.
+Ashley Miller yea, that's pretty much what I was saying, that I agree they need to know, only that it's just so touchy and so many different levels to all this shit that it needs to be explained to children in ways children can grasp...a child's mind isn't as sophisticated as an adult's (most of the time) and I think it's dangerous just to teach a child, for example, white people kill us and leave it at that...it's so much more that needs to be explained and in ways children can comprehend, being careful not to give them the message to be fearful, completely distrustful, or even racist themselves. Bc when my old classmate who's a BLM activist, her son who's often out there w her (he's 6), got hurt at school and freaked out when the security guard who was white tried to help him bc he thought he was gonna hurt him.
11:41 Im so mad she went from talking bout letting stuff go to the smoothness of her skin!lol ADD is a hell of a disorder!lol
Hello Ashley. About Kenya. Kenya ' s mother was 14 yrs old when she had Kenya. Her mother was going to give her up for adoption but Kenya's father mother begged to keep and raise the baby. So that's what happen with the raising of Kenya.
Yes girl preach Kim was dead wrong
Aunt Lori and Che urked me!
Nene coming back was no excitement, it felt stale, then I see Cynthia licking ass... she better stay strong and new- that Cynthia! I actually feel pain for Kenya never been a fan but I could not imagine that type of pain.... I understand it and relate to it, but to be ignored from birth and then you see your birth mother at family functions when you are growing up and she ignores you??!! Nah... I kinda understand Kenya's ways now... kinda forgive her for them too! Kim...hmmm she just does not suit the show. Kim needs to have assistance and stop trying to be super mum. YOU NEED SOME SUPPORT! She needs to make more of an effort with dressing them. Nothing wrong with help and assistance as a professional! That's why she doesn't have a social life! Get a team = have a life.
Porsha was too skanky, making a joke out of everything far too immature, not the best representative for her grandaddy's legacy! Great they focused on positive Black events. Kandi's family are hilarious as always I am SURE there will be a spin off show about the restaurant business.... Interesting show this week...
Kenya's Mom is P.O.S and the aunt is no better. How could you bring a child in this world and treat her like that.
+Master Junior Well its actually not hard. I don't excuse Kenya mom at all. But guys be having mad kids and leaving state or stay right where they are and ignore them.. I think its wierd as f we keep saying her mom must be crazy or been rape. Incest might happen or the lady just selfish. we don't know and for everyone saying it needs be discussed off camara. why?? If you want be real with it.show the mom at work or if she retired catch her at store and ask her is there a reason you dont want to talk to your daughter. If she dont wanna talk well there you have it. She has hear reasons but didnt want to share so. We know get to talk shit. Sometimes rude as people require rude behavior to wake up.
My grandmother adopted me, it is rare I say my mom abandoned me. If anything I abandoned her because from day one my grandmother was my mom to me. I call Rolonda(my birth mom) by her name and behind her back an egg donor.
I love my Nene. 15 seconds on and I am laughing my ass out.
Ashley I like your point of view on things and your delivery of facts and opinions
I just saw a photo of Kenya's mom. She's a Special Ed. teacher. I might be wrong, but Kenya's mom might be "special needs" patient herself. My nextdoor neighbor could almost pass as her twin. And my neighbor is special needs on very heavy sedative medication -- she still functions to a degree -- but she real slow (mentally) and has the mind of a 12 or 13 year old. She too, works, as a teacher's aide at a school nearby in the Special Ed department. I'm just wondering about Kenya's mom....she looks alot like my neighbor and they have that same "look" about the eyes like she's on meds.
If this is the case, that may be why she's guarded. That maybe Kenya's father is also special ed and they hooked up early in life....she got pregnant and it may have been the WAY she got pregnant that messd her up in the mind. Kenya's father (as we've seen on RHOA) is extrememly outspoken, blunt, aggressive and one might even say "kinda ignorant". In their youth, while dating, he may have been physically, mentally, emotionally or even sexually abusive to Kenya's mother and that THAT is why she rejects Kenya. That she might be still harboring fear and hate for Kenya's dad and that she sees Kenya (however innocent of the situation) as a product of that abuse or experience.
If you notice, Kenya's father seems a little off balance and a little slow.. Looking at Kenya's mother's photo, and what I'm assuming -- they both are special. I feel for Kenya and I hope she can come to understand ...if this is the case....that it was a blessing that her Aunt Lori took her in and raised her to be the beautiful, intelligent woman she has turned out to be. The Lord works in mysterious ways. That it was for her "good" that things turned out the way they did. That she will come to accept and understand that if what I'm assuming is correct, that her mother nor father were mentally equipped to raise her. And that her mother's mental condition is very fragile and what I assumed may have occurred between the mother & father may have taken a toll on her mother mentally and psychologically that she is incapable of getting past it. And to be reminded of it or forced to be put back in the mix of it , would be devastating to her. Hoping Kenya can just know that her mother loves her....she is just incapable of acknowledging it or accepting it.
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It's weird that I like watching your reviews before watching the episode.
There's an article out about Kenya's mom (along with a pic) that states that she is a special education teacher in her city.
Kim needs to go..
Lmfaooo yessss ! Come thru smooth skin !!!! U had a quick moment right there Ashley 🙌🏽
her aunt did say she has discuss the matter with her sister several times but don't expect her to jump on her or what not, I truly feel kenya should just let it go. No sense in beating a dead horse. She has allowed this situation to grab ahold of her and bring out the worse in her. I feel once she let it go she can actually be more fulfilled and can actually move on with her life!
my situation is nearly similar to Kenya with the mom thing...my mother's older sister put my mom in her place about how she treated my brother and me...my aunt is for right..right is right. period..
Love your review. I think this episode was great and the Rhoa are really bringing a lot of real issues to light! I love this season. So real! Even though I think Kenya fishing for a storyline... I do feel for her and her mother family. I hope they settle all this off camera and get therapy. Kim needs a nanny or family help. This is why it's hard to have kids post 40. Love Sheree this season! I was happy to see NeNe
I love watching your videos while I'm smoking. Funniest relaxation ever
I feel like it's some secrets the Moores are keeping from Kenya. Patricia Moores sisters both had kids out of wedlock before Kenya was born and they were raised in the Moores house, I believe. One of the kids was raised by Pats parents as their child, not grandchild. They took their daughter, Kenyas Aunt Carol Moore, to the hospital when she gave birth secretly, telling the family that the girl had a stomach ache. I feel like the Moores are dysfunctional and Kenya could very well be the product of incest at the hands of Patricia's father, which is Kenyas maternal grandfather.
I read a lot of comments saying kenya's mom must have been raped and stuff.... my best friend had a child after being raped and she loves her child more than anything on earth. Kenya really needs to let it go...Her mom wanted to put her up for adoption she should have instead of listenning to the grandmother. It seems like Kenya's questions have already been answerred...She is 40 she has to understand and move on now plus really I think she is just bringing that up for ratings, to actually have a storyline and for people to like her. Don't forget who she is people.
Kenya already knew her birth Mom didn't want a relationship with her, before she went there with the camera. I think it was more about promoting her new book. Mom or not, you can't force a relationship with anyone who doesn't want one. Kenya's Dad said he's told her the reasons before, its not right, but its the way it is.
It's so easy for people to say get over it. But she wants closure regarding a relationship with her mother. I couldn't let it go if I were in her shoes.
We don't know what the reason Kenya's mother is the way she is, all we know is what we see on this show. Kenya said she would see her mother at family functions and the mother would ignore her. So why didn't she confront her mother then and not look for answers on national T V. She is fortunate that she know who her mother is and her maternal family. Others are not so fortunate that they never know who their biological parents are. You can't force interaction if the other person do not want it.
I agreed with Kimm. It's up to her what she wants her son to hear. Or how she wants them to hear it. I did think that the way the lady said it was harsh. She should have left the boys home. And she needs to get them some hair cuts.
Did anybody else pay attention to the fact that Kenya would not allow Aunt Lori to fully speak because Aunt Lori was trying to say something about her having this opportunity in other time but she chose to bring the cameras with her (attempting to capitalize on the situation)? Kenya's met her mother before!
+Kim S Kenya has been around her mother several times at family functions and her mother acted like she didn't exist. She spoke to everyone but Kenya. I don't know how you can have an "opportunity" to get answers from someone who ignored you for 45 years. If the issue wasn't resolved before Kenya went on RHOA, what makes you think the cameras are the problem? The mother is the problem, as is the rest of the family. They owe that girl some closure. She didn't ask to be born and tossed off like a rag doll to the next available family member.
+UltimateBrody Exactly.
+Kim S You must have missed Kenya saying in this episode and others that she has been around her mother on several occasions at family functions all her life but her mother just ignored her as if she didn't exist.
"Help yo mama bitch" ASHLEY!!!! lmaooooooo
Great Review! Just wanted to share a different perspective on the Kenya situation. I totally understand the situation that Kenya is going through due to experiencing something such as this myself. Aunt Lori's answer was correct. Kenya does not have the right to force her mother to speak with her. A woman having a baby does not make her a mother and her mother did not want the responsibility. Her mother is a person that does not owe her an explanation for not taking the responsibility. The reason the families are not speaking because it is not their place to speak for Kenya's mother. I think there is a family secret. However, I think they are not saying because Kenya is not ready to hear because she has not let it go and to tell her would open a pandora's box and Kenya may not heal if she was to know the whole truth. I have come to learn sometimes you don't want to know everything because it can get ugly and shameful.