How to Raise Your Bowling Average!
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Strike for Show, Spare for Dough! Excellent video Luke
Is that something like DRIVE FOR SHOW AND PUTT FOR DOUGH.😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣
Absolutely hit the mark with this one. I'm a fairly new 2 handed bowler and as such have struggled with consistency. But with working on my physical game and spare shooting I have gone from a 140-150 average to hovering around 200 in a matter of a year and a half. Keep up the great work, love all the content!
Luke, you are a fountain of knowledge and we are all just waiting in line to drink.
Needed to watch this again. I was 36 pins from making the cut in a tournament over the weekend. My third game I was clean until I left 1-3-9 in the 8th and 9th and only picked up the 1-3 both times.
Exactly the reason corner pins are so difficult. Bowlers don't prioritize practicing them.. and then they get mad when they miss them. WHAT DO THEY EXPECT!
Last Sunday I had a few "great no tap" games. Exploding 9's. Cleared the deck but for a 7 or 10. Got a lot of corner spare work. Ha!
That's where my Mix helps. Urethane, not a slick as a plastic spare. So it hangs the dry 1-2 board for the 7 but stays straight across the oil for the 10.
I've used it for entire games thinking I'd work more spares but end up getting the highest score of the day.
This is one of the biggest points to make in a bowler mindset.
Spares win games. That is it.
The harder the condition, the larger the field, the closer the competition, spares matter even more. The problem is that spare shooting requires practice and patience, and either is a rare asset in bowling. A large number of bowlers just want to throw strikes, and don't want to waste time on practicing spare shooting. Great video again! Thank's Luke.
P.S. Your left-handed release is getting faster and more relaxed. Nice job.
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This is what I keep preaching to my son that just got into H.S. bowling. Strikes are great, but it's he (or she) that picks up most of their spares that wins the games most weeks.
Good Information. I was using the 3 6 9 right 4 8 12 left system. It wasn't working for me until I moved my left foot to the 24th board. Then counting off from that board. Now it is great.
One of your best videos. I have half of the plan working for me now. Leaving mostly easy spares, just missing 2-3 a set to cost me 7-10 pins a game on the average...
This is an AMAZING video dude!! I’ve thought about making a spare related video for some time now!! Keep up the amazing work we alllllll appreciate it !
They're so hard lol, the technical ones are the worst. Ball videos are easy but this stuff is pretty rough
Luke Rosdahl Oh I know it ! Great stuff though !
Yes single pin spares are not what we wanted but missing them is really a punch to the gut . Good video Luke.
This is very true I knew a kid who worked really hard on his spare game. And one night during league he shot 770 plus.
If you hit them all the first time, you don’t need to hit again!
I’m a new-ish 2 handed bowler and right side spares are a huge problem for me.
I always go strike-open
Sounds like something I've seen in the golf world recently. The way for a 12 handicap to get to a 8 is not making more birdies but by making less bogies and doubles. It's easier to get better at not losing pins (or golf shots) than to make them up. Great info.
Wonderful video Luke! I had a horrible 2nd game last night on my Thursday night league. For some reason I couldn't pick up 10 pins at all but was crushing the pocket. I stood in the same spot as I normally do for 10 pins, I just couldn't convert it I was able to pick others up and managed to hit 180+ with several open frames. 1st and 3rd game was both 248 and hit over 670 series. Those nights can be very hard to not throw in the towel, I still hung in there and gave it what I had. At the end even though I didn't shoot my normal series I was still happy I did my best. Keep up the great work man. I love your videos
Like the short game in golf, it's about limiting the damage. Like golf, bowling is a game of numbers. People who get this win often.
I was always a fairly good spare shooter and averaged around 180’s, then I started to string more strikes together and was consistently averaging 200+. Finally shot that perfect game and another time left a ringing 10 pin that cost me another perfect game and my 800 series.
i'm surprised this isn't just understood. when i started league they offered free learn to bowl coaching sessions. our coach at the time from the first lesson said "strikes are easy, focus on spares. you can leave the ten pin every frame and still score 199 as long as you spare"
learning how to get your spares doesn't exactly hurt your chances at striking either so i have no idea why anyone would focus all their attention on striking
I also applied what was suggested in the video and my average has increased. The one thing I have done in the video that was not suggested is Luke’s hold point. I’m right handed and just decided to try it.
Luke thank you for this. I'm a 190 bowler, last year I had a tough year averaged 188 with the early end to the season the year before was my best ever averaging 198 in both my leagues. I hear scratch bowlers bitching all the time about handicap tournaments being unfair for them it's absolute BS.
Also last year I went into a 50+ scratch and actually cashed. I got hot averages 222 over 4 and got into the cash round it happens but I was never going to win the step ladder. Still it was a blast.
Yeah . . my lefty average is based off 212 right now, I get 6 sticks and I have ZERO chance of competing in anything because the scratch bowlers will always out bowl me, and there will always be a few handicap bowlers having good days, it's just simple math. HOWEVER, the handicap bowlers make the tournament happen, if it was just scratch bowlers bowling, there wouldn't be tournaments, and handicap bowlers don't ever walk into a tournament expecting to get money back like the scratch bowlers do. They just seem to look at handicap bowlers and if they ever lose to handicap at any point, well it's a broken system and needs to be done away with BUT you'll notice there really aren't just scratch tournaments because the scratch bowlers don't want to work that hard, and have a lot lower chance of making money because the competition is better. Great scratch bowlers will complain about handicap, but won't go bowl PBA regionals or anything . . . very strange.
I am right in that 180-195 range. Just last week, I was 2/7 on single pins. I would’ve averaged 205 had I converted those.
I’m getting a lot better hitting the pocket and avoiding multi-pin spares, but those single pin misses are killing me.
As I tell my teammates, you’re not going to get any spares easier than just a single pin. We all whiff one from time to time, but you cannot afford to miss more than 1 a night. Keep practicing and you’ll pick those singles up
Woah! Bidwell is in this! That guy used to come to my alley all the time. Cool guy.
Yeah, he's great! He's one of those big names that nobody really knows about yet too
Well put. Simply make your spares. I appreciated the extra math and putting scratch bowlers in the equation and telling people to not sweat them.
I wonder if people got out of their own way how many leagues would be crazy hard. Appreciated Brad Miller Lees summit shootout and all the other video of bowlers.
One thing I thought is a matchmaker video of if urethane is right for you!
Keep it up!
Great video. I’ve averaged 200-210 for a couple years. But I’ve always hooked at spares on left side and thrown straight at my 10 pins. This year I’ve made a change to throw straight at most spares. I was told there will be patterns that will make it tough to hook at spares. My goal this year and for the future is 218+. And I’m bowling on a singles scratch league that changes patterns every 7 weeks. Looking forward to 2020/2021 Bowling season.
An amazing video. Great format.
Good video, very helpful. Lmao @ the random cat pic.
I’m a house mouse for sure. I struggle on sport shots. I have a 205 league average and a 160 sports average
Right on point!!
Excellent
thank u
Luke using a plastic spare ball? This is a disturbance to the force!
It's so cliche, but last night I shot 524 and probably left 60-70 pins over 3 games off the board because I missed makeable spares, went way Brooklyn and got 3 off a spare, +1 straight shot into the channel on a spare.
It really is . . but it's been slapping me silly for the last couple months now since I started league. According to Pin Pal, my average would be 10 pins higher in one league, and 7 pins higher in the other if I was just picking up my single pins. The first ball will eventually sort itself out, but if you make a quality enough shot to hit the pocket, and then miss the "free throw" you're left with . . those add up SO fast. When people practice, they want to practice strikes and sometimes throw seriously at what they leave when they aren't striking, but while I crucified the "fundamentalists" and drills crowd in my last video, THIS is where they're going to beat you. You've gotta shoot spares like the drills crowd and know how to bowl like the by all means necessary crowd . .
I hope I can play soon I got a IQ tour like 5 months ago and I haven't used it once bowling alleys are closed
Where do you live?
@@roberto9355 Oregon
Dominic's Trains SD45 hopefully soon man
That blows 😑. We opened early June those three months off were not fun. Feel your frustration 🙃.
Then you have the bowler like me who will never cash in a tourney. My hi-low range is just too small. I am always so close to my average that even 700s are rare. I'm carrying a 207 right now, but have only bowled 700 4 times, and never went over 725. But at the same time haven't seen anything below a 600 in months. I'm like the running back that if you need 4 yards for a first down I will get you 4 yards, but I won't get you 5. My one league just ended, I was high avg for league, but didn't even sniff the high scratch or handicap series or game for the year. You would think the high average should be in the top 5 for any of those. Nope. Just can't ever put a run of strikes together. Will only have 1 or 2 opens in a series (usually a split) but without at least 6 in a row, I'm just wallowing in the mid 600's. Frustrating.
Yeah . . I'm much more prone to shooting more average games than I am to big ones. I'll usually do well enough to feel like I have a chance or be right outside the cut line . .
Most important thing in bowling is the messenger pin 😉😜.
Don't go front 3 then 9 spare...or else, Grumpy Cat!! lol Serious note, that's how I went from being a 180 avg bowler in hs to 220 now, on house shots anyway. Learned to make my spares more consistently and string a few more strikes together a game...being a lefty, my 7 pin spare percentage still leaves something to be desired on certain nights, it's mostly mental though. lol
Brad Miller leaving the 4-pin
Poor Brad.
I missed shooting 700 because I missed a 10 pin and a 4 pin.
Carl Munkwitz same 2 missed last night...
I've gotten on 2 of my teammates butts SO many times about missing 10 pins. They refuses to use a plastic ball to pick them up.I'm not that great.So. I have to make ALL my spares.And.I still only average about 190ish.
It'd be a lot less if I couldn't make spares.Mostly 10 pins.
Jeff Hodge I don’t understand the non spare ball bowlers that make 1 out of 5 (at best). My issue is mental focus/looking up at the pins before I release. I miss left almost every time, and rarely miss when keeping my head/eyes still.
Jeff I don’t use a plastic ball, I flat hand what ever ball I’m using. One less ball I have to bring to league. I might miss one a week or 1 every other week. I just focus on rolling it end over end.
@@jasonschaal8968 Well. I know Norm Duke does that too. But.He's a pro. The average person shooting in a couple leagues a week and occasional tourney isn't either.
So.Being able to make all the(makeable) spares is a must.
I've always told teammates that too.We may not win,even if we make all our spares. But we'll more than likely lose if we don't.
Spares spares spares.. i don't know how many 230 games turn into 185 games due to not picking up single pin spares.. the odd thing is I'm almost even money converting make able splits..but that single pin escapes.. just another day in the life of a 175 average bowler 😪
Gotta make your spares!!!
If i could pick up 10 pins I would easily be a 200 210 bowler but I miss so many easy single pin spares that kill my score
Would you ever do a video on release, no matter how many videos I watch and how much I have tried I just can't seem to stop helicoptering the ball.
That's not really my thing, I'm more on the ball reaction side of things. Brad and Kyle have some good videos on that and Shannon O'Keefe just was featured in one for Inside Bowling I believe, so might check those out.
@@LukeRosdahl Understandable. I'll check out the inside bowling thing though!
But I can’t spare a square!!
The general premise is on point, but a few comments:
1) 90+% handicaps hurt regular league bowlers because they don't really care to improve their averages (e.g. going from 120 to 180 would only yield a 6 point advantage per game at a 90% HDCP). Either people don't improve, or they sand bag early in the season and take advantage of the HDCP during crunch time to climb spots for the finals.
Say a 150 average bowler wants over 60 points a game in HDCP. 70% of 240 is preferable to 90% of 220 - both give that player 63 points a game.
In addition to your mention of high average bowlers more easily having bad days (more room to shoot noticeably below average), it's easy for the lower average bowlers to have an unusually good day. At 90% of 220, if a 180 average bowler shoots 279, that's 315 HDCP, making it literally impossible for a 220 avg. bowler to beat
2) Whiffing a single pin in itself does not cost 11 or more pins. It costs 11 if the next shot is a strike. If you Greek church the next frame, the missed spare only costs 6.
IMO, sometimes spares don't have enough influence because of this. I averaged 219 for a 5-game qualifier on a sport shot in 2016 and lost to someone who missed a number of make-able spares.
One thing I've considered is mixing standard scoring with world bowling tour scoring. Having a single X always count as 30 and only needing ten strikes for a 300 is ridiculous, so strikes should behave as usual, but it'd be interesting if spares were 10 + the first ball of the frame the spare is in, rather than the next ball. That would still have X8/ in the 10th frame a 20 point fill, but 8/ in the 10th would be 18 from that, without a 3rd shot. Front 9, 9/ would be 278.
The drawback with this is 6/ X only nets 16 for the spare frame instead of 20, for instance.
Fair comments, but they're all coming from a scratch ideal or point of view. Most people are already as good as they're going to get, and barring a good match up will shoot their average or less when they travel, some just bowl league and could get better if they practiced, but either don't have the time or desire, the actual percentage of sandbaggers is very low, scratch bowlers just like to pick the less than 5% of people out there to make a case against handicap completely. You're always going to have outliers, but I can't see making a case or an argument against something for the small number of people that take advantage of it.
How often realistically is a 180 average bowler going to shoot 279?? A 240 average can shoot 140 too theoretically, but the chances of that happening are just as astronomically low. HOWEVER, I've never agreed with any league or tournament that doesn't cap the total score for a game at 300. My wife and I run a small sweeper every other Friday, we use 80% of 220 and cap all scores at 300, but I HAVE seen rare occasions where it wasn't capped and that came into play. I will give you that it's easier for a handicap bowler to shoot a bigger GAME, but quite a bit more difficult for them to do anything more. Also, a couple taps and a 240 average bowler is shooting 210 hitting the pocket every shot, but they're also much more likely to bounce back or end up with a closer to average total.
That's true on the math, but was more going with my theme of also hitting the pocket more often and leaving more makeable stuff.
I kind of like the world bowling scoring, but yeah I don't like the 10 strikes for a 300 thing at all. The 10th frame in standard scoring adds so much to bowling that to remove it just doesn't work.
Really enjoy your comments BTW, I like talking about more than just ball comparisons lol. I tend to get a little single minded sometimes too, so you make me think and also remind me when I miss/forget something. Thanks!!
@@LukeRosdahl I'm not advocating eradicating all handicaps across the board, just not a fan of percentages higher than 70.
Interestingly, 70% of 240 would turn the 279 from the 180 avg. bowler into a 321, and a 210 avg. bowler shooting 300 would tie it at a 321 with HDCP. I don't have a very definitive stance on the 300 game score capping. I suppose on rare occasions, some people on a team would struggle and rely on someone with a ~190 average to shoot the lights out, then get ticked off if that person rolls over 290 and the HDCP is capped at 300 and they lose by a few points, lol. It does seem odd to have someone get to the 10th and have the team score the same regardless of X9/ or XX9 or something.
Another option is to cap the total HDCP at some number of points a game, but that just hurts the lower average crowd.
"When would a 180 avg. shoot 279?!?"
It's probably someone you would point out in this video, who concentrates on strikes and misses a lot of spares, so the average isn't that high, but high games from strike streaks could be common. The 279 could even be a single pin whiff followed by the back 11 rofl
Hey Luke, sory I'm commenting again and on an relatively older video. I recently changed (due to injury) to two handed and with relatively good success. But the thing is, now I Need a spare ball for the first time in my entire life. I'd like some knowledge on the difference between clear polyester and normal polyester. I've heard it IS straighter but is it worth it paying twice as much for it? (Considering I'm unable to throw it barely any straighter than strike shots as a two hander now)
Lol it's like a week old . . clear poly actually hooks more than normal plastic, not too bad of a strike ball on dry conditions actually.
Strike for flash, spare for cash!
Strikes get you more cash than spares
strikes for show, spares for dough!
Between the PhysX and the Axiom, which one would you take as a 1 ball?
PhysiX probably, Axiom not being an asym knocks it down just a bit for most people.
I have the Physix my #1 for heavy oil. Have not herd anyone not like it the Axiom kinda mixed with my friends.
Sounds like every older human in my league. I have a 160 average(as well as most of my team around range) and it's like anytime any of us throw 200+, which is a lot more frequently than last season, everyone goes from super awesome to throwing every excuse at us. "Damn sand baggers," "if y'all didn't have that handicap, y'all couldn't compete (when we took them two games for scratch...)," etc. If y'all don't want to worry about handicap, don't join a league with handicap? Right? 😂😂 We know how it feels, there is a new team we played last night who have 100 handicap a person, and we got smoked even with winning by 200 scratch every game...
damn. I guess at 130-140 shouldn't do too many if any tournaments lol
Probably need to get the average up a little first OR make sure the handicap setup is favorable.
You 3 Xs for every open
Hit the pocket and get your spares.
#SPARELIVESMATTER
What is a good ball for a lower rev player that plays straight.
Depends on way too many things, but generally speaking an Astro PhysiX is a safe answer. Medium strength shiny cover, asym core that will help you get some hook and some backend without TOO much.
Luke Rosdahl I was recommended the hustle ink or the hyroad pearl/x, something mid range that won’t burn up too quick. I already throw a phaze 2, an omega crux I had polished, and I have a few other balls I don’t throw as much but they’re all strong balls.
Hey Force you have to get with your pro shop guy or lady they will steer you correctly MOST OF THE TIME. Example I wanted the Omega crux my guy great bowler and ball driller doing it 40 years said I think Parallax would be better FOR ME. He was right. Nothing wrong with the Omega. Let them help you. 😀
Anthony Dorazio I work at a bowling alley, so I have a bunch of people to ask that. Yet they steer me in 40 diff directions. I’m stuck between hustle inc and melee jab blood red.
@@force8819 Hey its your money whatever you pick as long as you think it will work for what condition. It's all trial and error in one year I bought 7 balls gave three away. Do your homework and go with it. 😎
Scratch bowlers have very few places to play without handicapper's, fact!
Yes, but the reason for that is because scratch bowlers don't show up to scratch events. Tournament directors don't want to run scratch events because the turnout is significantly lower to the point it's really not worth their time. Scratch bowlers also know that bowling handicap events is usually more profitable than bowling a scratch event, or more profitable more consistently, plus if it doesn't go well, they can always just complain about handicap. In scratch events there's nowhere to hide, you either show up or you don't.
@@LukeRosdahl Totally agree, as with that fact they should not complain when a haircap has a good day. I have always said, "bowl well and good things happen" Love your content and all your reviews, best out there!
How . raise your average.....throw more strikes....the end....
Lol yeah it's pretty simple right??
Make your single pin spares.
If you enter a handicap tourney, lose and then cry? I can’t take you serious
Right?? Like you knew what you were in for to begin with . . and a lot of scratch bowlers bowl handicap tournaments specifically because they know they can make more money there more easily than at a scratch tournament, yet they still whine about handicap . .
😀😃😄.So funny in our trio league yesterday a guy bowled 130 over his average we lost every game plus my teammates didn't help. Hey I laughed it happens.😀😃🙂😊