Konami's Failed NBA Game
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- ESPN NBA 2Night 2002 was a flawed and mediocre NBA game. It had a decent franchise mode, but lackluster gameplay. The ESPN presentation was ahead of its time however, and this game's existance helped push EA and 2K to improve their NBA titles. But it was a commercial and critical faliure for Konami.
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Never knew this game existed we had so many options in early 2000s in sports games
I actually played the hell outta this game very underrated
Crazy time for gaming
@@Fireslanga1seriously i’m so glad we got to experience it
Best time for sports games in my opinion
Stinks now a days where one company makes 1 sport game. No competition
I've watched all your retro sports videos and man I will never get tired of how much love they put into the intros. I'm happy that I grew up in the era of sports games NFL Blitz on the N64 was my brother and I life blood.
For real. How do modern sports games not have anything close to these epic, cinematic intros?
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I use to actually like this game lol maybe because Tmac was on the cover
@@SOFTDRINKTV i feel you.
love the forgotten sports games. great vids.
Konami made its last attempt with NBA Starting Five 2005, only available in Japan. I kept a copy of this game to this day. It's a massive upgrade in many areas, including some historical teams (my favourite 00-01 Lakers), very detailed player and arena likeness, they even featured signature jump-shots, on PS2. However, the gameplay was still bad, with disappointing animation and control feedback.
Oh wow I completely missed that. I see that it can be emulated, I might eventually do a video on it. Thanks for letting me know!
@@SOFTDRINKTV I still picked NBA 2K5 as my favourite bball game in 2005, but I also kept SF2005 as part of my collection. I still sometimes play this game and marvel its beauty made possible on a PS2. The arena detail is especially accurate for the time, even 2K5 and Live 05 didn't pay that much attention to arena detail like SF2005.
Graphically it looks like an early PS3 game. Very impressive visually
I am loving the use of the game intros as the intros to the videos, really sets the scene
I was 14 and a super heavy gamer and this game never came across my radar how the hell did i miss this one! Good shit fam another dope review
my dad use to be a tape librarian for the NBA from like 91 till 08 during the recession. and i remember this game quite fondly. the mechanics was janky as heck. but i really enjoyed the commentary.
Yep I remember gameplay not great but commentary was 🔥🔥🔥
NBA Courtside was a great series too very underrated
Wade courtside and loved it
Courtside 2002 had Kobe Bryant motion captured moves, including signature turnaround fadeaway.
@@linchuankawa loved the arcade mode and season that title music is fire
Man I miss when sports games had these epic intros…Now all we get license agreements…
The point system in this game seems similar to the one Konami used for PES during this time period. PES was the one sports franchise Konami found success with. Any videos about its rise and fall in the future, perhaps?
For sure! It may be a while though, as I need to play a lot more of FIFA and PES to feel like I have an informed take
@@SOFTDRINKTV While doing that. Check out the MLS based that Konami also made around this time ESPN MLS Extratime 2002.
Love your documentaries for all these games and series.
You do best with all your research and thoughts that you be doing so keep up the great work.
I love you
Great video on a forgotten NBA video game! Can you also make a retrospective on 989 sports NCAA GameBreaker 2004? There the last college football video game to compete with the more famous EA NCAA Football series.
I used too play NCAA Game breaker too death
989 sports made some reeeeally good games.
I remember “In The Zone” back in the mid 1990s when PS1 N64 were the systems to play.
The intros to these games were always the best got you so hyped to play the game even got you hyped to drop the controller and go hoop something lacking from todays games variety and presentation
1997-2008 was my peak of playing and collecting sports games. And man I just wish we had more variety like in the early 00s. NBA Basketball 2000 from FoxSports I played til the disc burned out lol. But man it was just a little different than 2K or Live which made the time so great.
The 2000s were the golden age for sports video games.😃 So many great titles to choose from. One hidden gem I tried out was All Star Baseball 2004 which was one of Acclaims best video games ever made😊
Loved All Star Baseball!!
All star baseball was EXCELLENT! Loved those games so much!
How about a retrospective for NCAA Final Four 2002&2003 or one on 989 Sports Studios
Born in 84 so I grew up on these great games my childhood was great
I was born In 89 and I grew up on these games as well
I really liked NBA Starting Five. I remember buying that from Walmart for $10 way back when. I really liked it and convinced my buddy to pick it up. We both ran our own franchises that we would constantly update each other on. I remember the game play being very solid and fun.
That what kinda sucks when you think about it,some people create the best ideas but don’t quite have the resources or have just a few small flaws in there finish product .While others with just steal the idea and correct those small flaws needed to be a major success and reap all the benefits the original creator should have gotten.
Never expected Konami to have jumped in on the Basketball competition bandwagon all those years ago but it’s also very nice to see a lot of gameplay with my hometown team the Grizzlies in this video too. Really takes me back seeing that old logo of theirs.😌
What's crazy is they had NBA In The Zone on the N64. I think this game was them trying to rebrand it
Yea this game flew way under the radar I remember NBA Live 2002 and NBA 2K2 back in 2001 lmao ironically I had that McGrady jersey back then
Hot Take: I would rather play the Konami NBA basketball video games on PS1 than on the PS2 because of it's addicting gameplay, they're so much fun to enjoy, you can play them on arcade or simulation settings, you can play the three point contest, dunk contest and all star game in them and they feature past NBA stars and legends of the 90s and 2000s era of the NBA. And personally, I think that the NBA will never be the same ever again because the 90s and 2000s NBA is my favorite decades in my honest opinion and I miss that era so much. I hoping that you’ll do video on those games by Konami in the future whenever you get the opportunity!
Fun fact-The song used in the opening (Virtual Mind) originates from Dance Maniax 2nd Mix!
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Yo softdrink! Love watching all of your videos. They’re always very insightful and nostalgic. You ever play the mlb slugfest games? Those were my favorite back in the day (specifically MLB Slugfest Loaded) and I would love to see you do a retrospective video or something on that someday. 🔥
Need more NHL vids to cure my nostalgia
I dream that there will come a time for gaming that there are more studios that will make NBA games again just like before. Not just the NBA, but also a lot more games so we can try all of them. Flop or not at least we have a lot of choices. But, I know today it costs a lot to make video games. So it's also kinda hard for it to happen. I hope gaming gets bigger and bigger every year.
I miss this era. We had so may different choices! We really need competition to come back. Especially with Madden!
These intros to games back then was what got us hype go play as these players/teams in game. A lost art in today’s sports games where it’s just a shell of a game featuring a shitload of micro transactions
i'm not even that big of a soccer fan, but i do know that konami made 2 MLS games, ESPN MLS GameNight and ESPN MLS ExtraTime, personally i'd love to see them do a MLS specific game again
Unfortunately MLS signed an exclusive deal with EA recently to only appear in their EA Sports FC games.
Great vid as always. would love a Gretzky NHL 06 retrospective
During this time period I was playing NBA Live, NBA Inside Drive, and NBA 2K. Loved all three of these series. Never even knew Konami made basketball games
Series failed because Solid Snake wasn't a playable character. Simple as.
The opportunity was staring them right in the face and Konami was like "nah we don't like to make money here"
Never knew about this game, but I see its similarities in a game called "nba in the zone '98" on n64 also made by konami
Yeah, I never knew about this game either, but I definitely see the 'In The Zone' lineage. In the Zone 1 for PS1 was a super basic arcade-style game, but In the Zone 2 was a really deep game with a lot of customizability. They also had full in-engine US and Canadian national anthems, which were hilarious.
4:30 Sprewell out for the season with a broken finger 😂😂😂
So I’ve been watching your videos sense Drewski aka NTE shouted you out in one of his vids and man I got say you have improved so much with your commentary bro for real good job and keep it up you’ve got a good thing going here 👍🏻
Great video only thing I didn't like is you comparing it to live 05 and 2k5. You should have compared it to those games of the same year
Dope video. Do not remember this at all. Ironically Konami is responsible for one of my favorite basketball games ever (Give & Go for SNES), wish that would’ve received a proper remaster/update.
Hey man, love your videos but eventually youre gonna run out of old sports games and was wondering if you thought about doing retrospectives on extreme sports games.
I had all espn games from football to basketball they even had a hockey game
Konami is still making at least one licensed sports game in the Pro Baseball Spirits series. It's the NPB which I understand most westerners don't care about, but if you're someone who hates how unrealistic MLB The Show has become and just wants a good simulation baseball game I recommend giving them a try. The graphics and presentation are so well done they're hard to distinguish from an actual NPB broadcast and the language barrier isn't all that hard to come to grips with assuming you understand the game of baseball. As a last piece of advice ignore the Switch version, it's inferior. Get either the last PS3 title or the one on PS4.
I swear every video I find out about a game i didn’t know about existed good work!
Playstation 5 Needs To Make ESPN 2 Night Basketball games
Konami were always fairly consistent with PES up until about two years ago when they rebranded as eFootball. I would’ve thought they’d also do a good job with an NBA game. Ah well
It's not a bad game, it's just mid. If NBA Live and 2K weren't so good back then the series may have been a success.
@@SOFTDRINKTV so how did PES do so well next to FIFA for so long? I don’t know how much of your fan base are into soccer but it would be interesting to see a video on that because it seems to be the exception to the rule. NHL 2K stopped because EAs NHL series was too much to compete with, NBA Live stopped because 2K was too good but somehow some way, PES was always the little engine that could to the point that teams even had exclusive deals with Konami. FIFA couldn’t use camp nou or old Trafford because they were exclusive to PES. They had exclusive rights to Euro 2020 and they couldn’t even use Juventus in FIFA at all. FIFA was still the bigger game but for teams like that to have exclusive deals, that’s no joke
Another great video! With the costs of how expensive it is and the resources needed to make properly licensed NBA or NHL games in 2023 will we really get anyone challenging EA for the NHL throne or 2K for the NBA throne?
Never knew about this & I only knew about the other Konami basketball games like “ NBA In the Zone” “ Double Dribble” & “ NBA Give N Go”
That intro video is so 2000
To be fair the game wasn’t a failure due to it being a “bad game”. Lack of marketing was the problem. I loved this game.
Wasn't herd fodder. This was exclusive to the elites
As many random old titles I shop for, I had no idea this existed lol
Was a big fan of the Konami games. The best one was NBA Starting 5 2005 released in Japan. First game with classic teams and players. I imported that game as soon as I could.
I played all these games when i was kid back when we could rent games at blockbuster and hollywood video ill always miss and remeber my childhood
There was a game called NBA inside drive that was only on XBOX, i absolutely LOVED that game. Can you do a video on it?
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Used to love this any basketball game I could play.. look at the graphics for that time. This live and courtside on n64 were my favorites
Konami had a
PS1 tall box basketball game. Forgot the title, but i remember it looking great on the back of the box, an playing just ok.
The biggest suprise to me that no one else is trying to make nba games I don’t think 2 k has an exclusive license so why is nobody trying to even try and make nba games
I collect old school b-ball games. This is one of only a few I don't have. Never see it anywhere when I visit used game stores.
The early-mid 2000s were the peak of sports games, so many legendary titles for every sport... there were bound to be some real losers as well as forgotten gems too, there were just so many they couldn't all be hits
Although... some games were forgotten for a reason
What happened to the players that are drafted in 2001? My Grizzlies obtained Pau Gasol from the Atlanta Hawks by trade as the third pick that year.
Never realized Konami made basketball and football games, I just knew about eFootball (formerly Pro Evolution Soccer), Power Pros and Professional Baseball Spirits
Gosh that intro was so Japanese-American early 2000s...lowkey slapper though
It was NBA Live, for realistic playing since the 90's and then NBA 2K series took over.
Marks the THIRD innovative Konami sports game from the 2000s that failed.
Enthusia Professional Racing, NBA 2Night, and NFL Primetime are 3 Konami fails all in under 3 years, while their innovative features were absored into more successful franchises.
That intro music was horrendous 😂. Who tf approved that?!
"Scatter, come on, connect, i must protect!" 😂 wth
Now you’re dropping HEAT
90s and early 00s was the peak of sports gaming. 05 was the sports gaming apocalypse.
Wow! I didn't even know Konami made this game. 😲
I mostly remember them for the sports games on the NES such as Double Dribble for Basketball at that time.
( which I loved how they did the cinematic slam dunks for its time. )
Still considering when this game was made I definitely have to agree that it looks very visually impressive for its time.
Thanks again for the video SOFTDRINKTV.
I hope Konami try another sports game. Their Efootball Franchise went down the drain but their PES 2020-2021 games were top tier and their free flowing mechanics from 20/21 would be killer in a football 🏈 game
NBA In The Zone and In The Zone 2 were bangers tho
Classics
(kinda a random question) But I remember you mentioned that NHL 22 was a step in the right direction, do you think NHL 23 is showing signs that the next games could be good again?
I remember wanting this game bc I had 2k1 and I wanted the ESPN....and the guy from GameStop argued w me to save my money and not buy this game
I used to love playing NBA Starting Five on PS2!
This game's name is the most effortless name anyone could ever come up with.
Played so many different nba games in the early 2000s glad I was able to play majority of them
Patrick Ewing on the Magic.
Cursed images, indeed.
i highly recommend doing an nba live cover curse sometime soon
Wild that there were FOUR simulation-style NBA games back then. Now there's just 2K.
My guess: it's harder to make the models and textures for 500 players on current gen hardware so no other studio bothers to risk producing an NBA game since everyone's gonna buy 2K.
You had NBA inside drive and a few others
I remember this game as a kid was an ok fun game for a young kid to experience
Love ya man. Appreciate you eternally! You deserve all of the success in the world. ❤️
There was NBA live 2K shootout Kobe's courtside in the zone NBA jam and then we had the 2007 NBA volume life story NBA ballers
Do a review on (Konami game) called (run n gun arcade) basketball 🏀 One of the very best basketball games I've ever played and I'm still looking for that same type of game ...
Bro you are on fire w these videos keep ‘em coming!!!
Prolly not a spiritual successor to Konami's NBA Give 'N Go, and also their Run and Gun games?
Yep, I grew up during this golden era you speak of. Maybe next you can hit the Sega NFL series going back to Sports Talk?
You should do a video on "Fantasy Football" the madden movie on paramount where at the end the family is only hapoy when they throw away madden
I was 12 when the game came out I used to play It everyday I came home from school
Never heard of this game I missed this one for some reason and back then I was trying out a lot of basketball games 🤔 anyway that is why I love your channel 👍🏿
That intro song is insane lol
This game was horrible I use to hit 3s with Ben Wallace
Man, the way the players move and default to jumpshots remind me of a mobile game called Fanatical Basketball.
I remember 2k5 games dropped at 20$ new vs. 50$ , EA got scared and bought the rights, which is anticonsumer and a little monopolistic. I hate EA for ruining the competition instead of taking them head-on chumps.
I wouldn’t say it’s ea’s fault it’s the sports leagues that allow it to happen EA is just going what’s best for their business model
You should cover the Microsoft game - Inside Drive - with Paul Pierce on the cover
NBA inside drive very nicely done
This is odd because In The Zone which Konami made was my S#*T!!!!
RIP Lorenzen Wright
Yo you literally do all the games I just brought I’ve been doing this buying binge on old video games due to the lack of competition now days
Can't forget about it's predecessor... NBA In the Zone.
I used to like this game. I remember being at a Best Buy one day and stumbling across it. It was brand new and I'd never heard anything about it. And I think it was right at 20 bucks. It was actually decent. The controls were a little different but not so bad. Time to dust off the PS2.. and find a copy.