Drum Teacher Reaction: Bill Ward | Black Sabbath - 'Into The Void' | Is this the best one yet!? OMG
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If you enjoy a good long stint before Vocals kick in
Pink Floyd - "Time" from the album The Dark Side of the Moon
Or
Pink Floyd - "One of These Days" from the album Meddle
You need to check out Bill on Symptom of the Universe from Sabotage and Die Young off of Heaven and Hell He just absolutely kills it. Everyone loves Bonham ,but Bill was my man on the skins
@@philshorten3221 Dude sorry to intrude like this. I need more songs with these sort of drumms. I mean I *need* them, please help somebody
It's important to remember that Tony Iommi wrote this in 1971. As Rob Zombie famously said: "Every cool riff has already been written by Black Sabbath. Anything everyone else does is just basically ripping it off. You're either playing it faster or slower or backwards, but they wrote it first."
Yup! It’s the blueprint for sure
Yes and No .
A lot of the speed metal stuff don't came at all from Sabbath.
But Deep Purple
@@Nissardpertugiu Dave Mustaine was getting riff ideas from Lynyrd Skynyrd so I don't know how accurate your comment is. You can just speed up or slow down tempo. Sabbath was influential to a lot of those speed/thrash metal bands.
@Mike G. Soundgarden literally covered song.
@@mr.brenman2132 Speed King , Flight of the Rat , Fireball ( With Double bass drums ) , Highway star , Burn , Lay down stay down ( kind of a skan beat ) , Lady double dealer ...
But With the In Rock / Fireball thing, nobody played like this up tempo , chuggy with even picking hand subdivisions , drums ... , Neither Zepp, Heep and Sabbath were doing that .
Budgie however , had few D beat stuff...
Bill Ward, one of the biggest reasons many people fell in love with the drums and metal. Myself included.
Ironically his style is so un-metal and swinging.
Neil pert...John Bonham
Ward and Butler were a fantastic rhythm section.
Absolutely John!
The best!
Apologies in advance. Got a bit carried away on this one LOL
But DAAAAAAAMN!
"The Heavy Metal genre might as well be subtitled music derivative of Black Sabbath." - Lars Ulrich, 2006, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony.
Wow. Yup well said Lars
It's a nice thing to say at an awards ceremony, in fact it's so good that people will quote you 15 years later on the internet. It's a shame he couldn't keep that sharing, collegial attitude to the poor teenagers who discovered genuine music for the first time by downloading one of his mp3s on the "internet". Well I guess there's a time to be an egotist and a time to be a wanker. Just kidding of course, Lars is himself one of the most influential metal drummers of all time and a legend in his own right.
@@mrbouncelol Lars probably had to pay to discover Black Sabbath, so I can understand where he's coming from
Bill Ward and Geezer Butler are real time lords that kept the Sabbath engine purring.
Man I’m losing sleep because I can’t stop watching these genuine Sabbath reactions from you.
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Never too late to discover Black Sabbath and Bill Ward's amazing drums.
As a proud Brummie i have listened and loved BS since 1970. Brilliant band
So so good
Been a Sabbath fan since the 70's. Their music never gets old.
2 things: 1. You do a fantastic job. 2. BILL WARD. You can’t quantize this stuff. It would never work w a click. His flow is human & human only.
Yo Michael!
I love your channel man!
And yes I feel this is what we’ve lost. Humanity in music.
We should catch up for a vid interview 👀
Take care!
The original Sabbath is the greatest thing that ever happened to this planet lol. This is my favorite riff (Also Eddie Van Halen's..at least at one time. VH backed them up in '78). The opening was at first a different song but was then used for the intro of "Into the Void". I kind of wish they left it out and got right to the main riff immediately. Bill Ward has said that this was the hardest song he ever played drums to and that it took him forever to finally get the beat..he was very close to giving up. Thank God he didn't because this is one of the greatest songs of all time.
Yup absolute banger
Eddie Van Halen once said in an interview about current bands , when he hears Soundgarden he hears a huge Sabbath influence.
Bill Ward was never close to giving up. Eddie had some help. Then burned out completely blaming Roth for their stagnation. No, he was a drunk. Drunk people get caught in a never ending loop of used info, their brains deprived of the ability to create anything new. After Women and Children just another rock band. Eddie wanted to call it Van Hagar. Sammy didn’t need his name attached to the drunkards band. Losers
One thing about Sabbath all the parts of all the tunes cannot be altered! The parts are perfect. Ward did swing & he was excellent.
Agree!
I know this is a drummer's channel, but shout out to Geezer Butler, such an incredible bass player. For instance, in this song he doesn't just adds wait to the already massive sound, but plays with the melodic dynamics of the guitar, something he does masterfully in songs like Iron Man.
Yes indeed. I’ve given Geezer plenty of kudos. Amazing
Yes, Butler and Iommi’s chemistry together was unique!
Into The Void is probably my favorite Sabbath song. A classic Iommi riff that is utterly relentless, typically badass drumming from Bill, an inspired vocal delivery from Ozzy, and lyrics from Geezer that are as relevant today as they were over 50 years ago.
This was Eddie Van Halen's favorite song too. You're definitely in good company. 👍🏻
@@Cimmerian415
Excellent! I think it’s definitely one of their most popular songs, at least with metal fans who are in the know.
@@keefriff99 Agreed.
I agree but it is not an inspired vocal delivery to me at all. The other three are spot on!
Henry Rollins stated that 'Master of Reality' is his favorite Sabbath album, and he aptly described Tony Iommi's guitar tone on it as being "like lava".
I watched an interview yesterday and they were asking some of the top metal drummers who they thought were the top metal drummers. When they got to Gene Hoglan he stated that Bill Ward was the greatest metal drummer. That's a hell of a statement coming from the Death Metal Legend himself. Well deserved!
Big kudos 🙌
What bothers me about these "best of" or "top" discussions is that there is always such a time bias. It seems like the greatest of all time, the untouchables, are from so way back in the day. That immediately tickles my spidey sense and makes me think that there is some bad juju. No one is trying to say Bill Ward and Black Sabbath weren't incredibly influential artists, but what does top drummer even mean? Lets talk about the true contemporaries of any given band, lets compare their music and see why most artists aren't humble because they're pretending, but because they remember the other guys and gals who were great too.
@@mrbouncelol I understand that as the greatest drummer he listened to as a teen. Because that's what influenced Gene as a drummer.
Rock/Metal Drummers in their teens today will maybe state Dave Grohl or Eloy Cassagrande.
The Atomic Clock!!!
This has to be my favorite Sabbath song. Such a great musical journey
Incredible Donte 🤯
As you get deeper into Sabbath's portfolio, this is one of the tracks that really has to stand out, especially I think if you're a musician, or play the guitar or drums. This track is a freakin' monster.
So good Paul
The wizard, the writ, hole in the sky, it's difficult to pick one track and say it stands out.. the reality is their first 5 studio albums are timeless. By never say die they were so out of it the music suffered, but the first five albums are awesome
Master of Reality, one of the greatest metal albums ever.
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Master of Reality the heaviest album ever from beginning to end originally sold over 3 million copies Bill Ward percussionality love 💕 your reaction to these masterpieces Reminds me when l first heard them. And playing these songs when I was in school 🏫 Sabbath Forever
master of reality sold over 5 million copies according to ChartMasters.
MOR is the greatest of Black Sabbath's early records, a notch above even Paranoid.
This is one of Bill Ward's all time favorite Sabbath songs as well!!!
This is an absolute banger Abraham
On the first album, Bill is sounding even more jazzy. Sabbath (Earth) used to play blues and jazz in bars.
I bought this album when it first came out.
It was so different from any other kind of music at that time. On the deck it sounded so loud, deep and weighty. Nothing compared to this listening experience. I already had the Black Sabbath and Paranoid LPs but the sheer heaviness of Masters of Reality was truly something else!
Amazing John. I can only imagine hearing this in 71. Earth shattering
Yes, holed up in my bedroom as a 15 year old, missing out on my education and influenced by the music of the day!
Yeah, special memories. I was younger than the HS kids at the time, but my school was next to a friends place who was referred to as "the basement". After school a few of us would head over to listen to his latest finds. One was master of reality. He had just completed a huge Muriel on his wall of a cemetery, lightening etc, Very artistic and the entire room was black light. To this day, I've never forgotten one detail of that experience. The mucis of the 70's can't be beat, but that early 70's hard/soft rock material created a life long memory. Sensory overload.
I bought this, Who’s Next and Aqulung on my first trip to the record store in high school. 1971 or early 72.
I haven't been a drummer for a really long time, but I always thought of drumming as a dance. People like Bill Ward are just dancing better than most.
I don't play drums and have no clue what you're talking about but I love your enthusiasm and charisma. Black Sabbath is great and it's awesome seeing some pure reactions.
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There are no bad Black Sabbath songs. Every one is rock and roll perfection! Your reaction says it all. Welcome to the fold!
It’s INSANE how fresh this still sounds. It still sounds unique and HEAVY.
YESSS!!
the way ward ties everything up perfectly. as henry rollins once said black sabbath has the best rhythm section. the joy in your face when the song takes off awesome
This song, which was the one Bill Ward had the hardest time figuring out how to drum, is also my favorite song of all time. I am very excited to see you reacting to this (and if you hadn't done so, I would have requested it on paypal in about two weeks)! This song is genius on every level, even including the lyrics, and the guitar sound; every little thing. This song also shows Iommi's patented string bends that only he could pull off.
This is absolutely mind blowing Mike 🤯
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I thought that was Under The Sun.. the "every day just comes and goes" part?
@@nodaysback8390 , I think I read somewhere that he did have trouble with that section, but overall he mentioned that this one gave him fits as a whole more than any other song. 😊
@@mikeg.4211 Cool.. l saw an interview with Tony. He there were songs from time to time that gav Ward trouble. He laughed about the "every day comes and goes" part gave him so much trouble, he almost quit the song and said f* this lm not playing it! hahaa
I'm so glad to see Bill Ward get the love and appreciation he deserves. He's been one of my favorites for as long as i've been into music.
Wicked World is another great song to check out, if you haven't already.
I'll get to it Daniel!
This brings me back to the summer of 2004. Ozzyfest outside of Boston. Last band of the night, Black Sabbath. I remember shaking my buddy next to me and screaming, INTO THE VOID. I was so excited they were playing this one. Love this song. The whole original line up too. Bill Ward decided to play with them in 2004. Was so awesome.
I saw that show in St. Louis. Judas Priest played right before Sabbath. Good times.
@@tylermorrison7051 Judas Priest was an awesome show too. I wasn't the biggest Priest fan at the time , but I certainly liked them a lot more after the show.
What makes Bill Ward so great, and almost impossible to replicate, is his machine-like precision, mixed with that deep, deep Jazz base he has, and his uncanny ability to mix them to just… squeeze notes. They just sound dirty.
Grease.
He's like Bonham. Just got a beautiful humanity and grit to his playing
When riff #2 kicked in.... THAT is reaction i wanted to see :)
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When I heard Sab songs when these albums came out I'd always think; He could've made another song off that riff! There's 3 or 4 in each song!
The handbrake analogy is a perfect way to describe Sabbath’s amazing ability to change tempo
Andrew, I love seeing your genuine reactions to music that is new to you, but that I have known intimately well for many years. It justifies my love of Black Sabbath and, in particular, Bill Ward. Thank You!
Alex G. 😎
Never really looked at Sabbath from a drummers perspective, but thanks for pointing every little thing out in detail, just shows how GREAT this band is from A to Z
Yes Sir!
This came out in 1971! Imagine what people must have thought of how heavy this was in the time of peace and love.
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You can't imagine it. '71 was the year of the Temptations, the Osmonds, and the Bee Gees. When Sabbath dropped, it wasn't just different, it was *destructive.*
Welcome to the fold Andrew. I'm 48 years old and have been listening to Sabbath since I was born. It's as natural a part of my life as a musician as keeping time or keeping in tune. Once you become well versed, fluent, in Black Sabbath, it becomes the standard by which you judge all heavy music that has come since.
Or maybe that's just me😉👍💪
Part of the reason i love Sabbath is most of their songs are 2/3 songs knitted together. The constant tempo change is amazing and Bill and Tony's Jazz influences shine through all the time. Loved this band for 50 years.
Keep coming back to this video LOL. So good!
GREAT!
Loved them since their first Album 'Black Sabbath' in 1970 - never tire of them.
I know this is mostly about Bill, but Geezer's tone on this track is maybe my all time favorite bass tone ever.
Black Sabbath was my first concert in ‘72… I always catch myself playing air drums to any and every BS song. Bill Ward is the man.
How are you a drum teacher and never heard of black sabbath? Mind blowing! Glad you’re listening to them now. Excellent band. Enjoy!
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Sabbath has been my favorite band since 1970. Glad you finally found them.
After this one, check out Snowblind, Bill Ward was beating on those crumbs like they owed him money!!
He will won't he , he's going there, but first is embryo/ children of the grave
Bill Ward is so underrated, the guy is a genious, loved the breakdown so cool to get your perspective on him and great to see that Sabbath is your favourite, better late than never I say, I've been listening to Sabbath since the late 80's, there music is just so hypnotic and soothing but heavy at the same time 👌👍
I think the Sabotage Technical Never Say Die albums are underrated not just the weird creativity but drumming expanding wise , creativity, original and some crazy stuff Bill is KILLING IT on thoses records
I think it's safe to say that every single doom, sludge and death metal band owes their very existence to this exact song right here.
Love Sabbath for 40ish years now and love Grunge too, it's so satisfying having my suspicions confirmed by musicians and smart people, that this is some really great music
You have officially completed Level 1 of Black Sabbath and now hold the rank of the "Inverted Cross". Congratulations! You have also unlocked Vol. 4 reactions: Snowblind, Supernaut, Under The Sun and Cornucopia, the latter song known for nearly breaking Bill Ward because of the difficulty he had in perfecting the challenging drum patterns.
Bill Ward - The subtle master that most people who don't play drums will never get
Bill Ward is a friggin animal. He did a posedown on me in Reunion Arena in Dallas back in 97 after a full concert and get this. He had just underwent openheart surgery before the tour. LEGEND!!!
Wow !! I always loved Bill Ward's drumming, one of my Fave along with Ginger Baker. I loved sabbath from the beginning 1969. I'm 74 years young. I bought the first album and listened to it and went back and bought 4 more and finally wore them all out !!, and bought the whole Sabbath Catalog on CD. Great video I was amazed with the software and almost mesmerized bt it. Loved your energy too. Keep it up !!
I been waiting for this reaction, I knew Bill was gonna get you. He has said that it took him a while to figure out what to do with this song, and what we ended up with was a masterclass.
i believe MASTERS OF REALITY is Black Sabbath at the height of power and creativity
I'm lovin' all of it
To think that the drumming of Gene Kruppa, Buddy Rich and other Jazz greats are such great influences in the genesis of heavy metal just blows my mind. I'm 57 but I continue to appreciate the greatness of Black Sabbath even more. I have loved this band for over 40 years but I never really knew about all the heavy musical influences until I was much older and breakdowns like this really give so much insight. Thank you for another great breakdown!
Thank you!
Yes on the timeline this stuff is very close to the bop and hard bop jazz stuff of the day
Andrew Rooney Drums I wish I were more fluent in music, but you explain things easy for lay people to understand.
I was waiting to see your reaction when they went into the breakdown and it did not disappoint. That riff is so dirty it gives me chills every time
100% Collin
Stoked you did this one this is probly every sabbath heads favorite sabbath song
Only song to this day that lights me up with goosebumps. Nice job breaking this down for all of us non drummers.
There are no words, you just have to listen...the whole album is a masterpiece!
Correct!
Always the same excitement each time you cover Black Sabbath!
April 2022? Jesus guy i got hooked when i was 8 years old in 2005. Thats worse than saying you've never heard tool until 2022. As a multi-instrumest for nearly 20 years, im surprised you hadn't heard this song up to this point. Its a masterclass in silky drumming and stanky riffs. Its so schwangy and groovy, its simple but it does the job. It makes me shiver every time i hear it. Black Sabbath is king.
Black Sabbath - Neon Knights
Bill displays his amazing way of drumming hard on one part, yet keeping other part of the kit quiet, even with two different bassdrums, Vol.4 was his first album with double bassdrums, yet he kept the high hat in use aswell
Andrew, you're exactly right,words like swing and jazz have been associated with Bill for years!
I thought for years that Sabbath could never be copied because of their "sloppy" timing--and that was a good thing. I remember thinking that Faith No More's version of War Pigs, although technically perfect, just sounded empty. Andrew, thank you for putting into context why. Your technical descriptions are fantastic. I am a non-drummer and don't know why drums sound different. You have opened up a new world. Bill Ward has swing! I used to think his timing was just not great, even amateurish, because he was just some bloke from the Mid-lands. Nothing could have been further from the truth. He is a highly informed drummer using techniques all those 80s and 90s drummers had no idea about. I need to get into jazz drummers more now...
Into the Void is absolutely a landmark of music. Every single "reacting to Into the Void for the first time" I've ever seen has had the listener straight up get up and walk away. It's so GOOD.
Love it
Ward is such a master
Andy you are correct Bill Ward is playing a double bass kit.
I'm jealous that you get to discover black sabbath, I discovered in late 70s and they remain my favorite band and no other band is even close
I can see/hear why Michael!
Reminds you of soundgarden? ? Do you mean the first listen to this song?
This is my personal favorite Sabbath song. Everyone in the band is on fire in this killer track!
Awesome to see Masters of Reality getting some love. It would be great to see Supernaut from Vol. 4 as well. I know you had a live version of Symptom of The Universe, but a studio version of at least one track from that album would be great too. Cover something from each album.
It’s great to see a bit of the younger generation finally getting to understand what us older folks have always known!
I've listened to this song hundreds of times since 1971 when I purchased the album Master of Reality. One of my all time favorite Black Sabbath songs. Thanks for the reaction.
Thanks Thomas
The drummers of this time Paice, Bonham, Mitchell all came from a jazz background and Bill Ward was no exception. The first drummer he tried to emulate was Gene Krupa and this carried throughout his years in Black Sabbath where you can hear him swing even on the heavier tracks but more so on songs like Air Dance on Technical Ecstasy, a throwaway album for many but personally I am a big fan. You even get some lead vocals from Bill.
My favorite album from the 70s (when I was a teen). Damn, I'm old. But this still rocks 50 years later.
Great reaction. Bill Ward is such a great drummer. I've been a Sabbath/Ozzy fan since I was a kid in 1979. He was the first drummer I 'noticed' was using double kick stuff regularly. You should check out some of Tommy Aldridge's stuff. I feel he really helped evolve the double kicks in a hard rock setting through the late 70's and 80's. He's a brutally hard hitter and an amazing performer well worth checking out if you are not familiar with him. His drum live concert drum solos are (IMO) legendary.
I hope Mr. Bill Ward has a chance to hear all the well earned praise.
Hi Adam. I have been a Sabbath fan since 71 Master of reality my first album.
Got it same year it came out.
Got Black Sabbath 70 Paranoid 70.
Shortly after. I was 11 in 71. Have never looked back. Just forward with this unbelievably great band. All albums until 2013.
My man. I've watched a lot of different reactor's videos pretty regularly for a long time now, and you're the only one I've subscribed to just because of the 100k-by-your-birthday promise of twerking to Into The Void for a full minute.
Out of principle won't unsub if you keep this promise.
Welcome aboard!
I put myself under a lot of pressure. It seems almost impossible I'll reach 100k by sep 7th...
But WTH. Might twerk anyway
@@AndrewRooneyDrums haha even if you don't reach 100k I'll stick around, your reviews are great
It is good listening to these reactions back to back without waiting
I love bill ward and dave Lombardo. Its not cookie cutter drumming. Always hitting something different. Keeping the band tight and in time.
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NOW you know...without a doubt... Bill Ward is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!!! 🤘😁 🤘
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I agree, Andrew. There's nothing left to say. Into the Void is mind-blowing!
Here we go! Riff heaven
Rifftastic
Never too late to hear great music. For me first time hearing Black Sabbath was when my dad got me the Best of Black Sabbath 2CD in 2000. I was only 14, and their music just blew my mind, just like it blew yours in 2022 :)
I'm glad you're loving Black Sabbath, they're so much more than Iron Man! I hope one day you do Fairies Wear Boots, it's one of my fav Sabbath songs and definitely my favorite one to play on drums!
Yes. You love them now. I saw it.
This is beautiful. 🥰
Yup sure do
This is one of the greats. I love the cover Kyuss did of Into the Void, you should check it out, they pulled a "sabbath" twist in that middle bridge-like section. Amazing.
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The mighty Sabbath Andrew
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I love watching people encountering Sabbath for the first time.
It lets me remember my exposure so many years ago.
They were a blues band before becoming the godfathers of metal.
Yes. Can hear that!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums More of à jazz/blues hybrid. They started doing extended jams during the song Warning, and most of the ideas on 1st two albums came from those live jams. They had a small set and needed to stretch it out. So they just had 30-40 minute jams that they turned into original songs.
imagine hearing this in the context that heavy metal didnt exist this is the album where metal became metal like for real
That context always necessary when evaluating Black Sabbath
First heard this when the record came out and this song was the absolute highlight of the LP. I was about ten years old at the time and I still keep coming back to this in my early sixties...
I would have loved Bill to be a part of the band even in the later periods, the original sabbath.
I don't think there's any replacing Ward.
New drummers were probably excellent. But only one Bill Ward!
Other bands can try to copy the heavy sludge. But they lack a drummer with a deep grounding in jazz (gene krupa, buddy rich, etc) and that bouncy swing and vibe, so when the new bands drummer plays identical to the riff it just sounds like math rock, and not the rock/blues/jazz styles also underlying Sabbath. Please jump ahead to the Sabotage album (Symptom of the Universe, Thrill of it All). Also despite the band's name and heavy imagery, if you listen to Geezer's lyrics, it's still hopeful and with a twinge of the hippie era outlook, especially on this album (though, yes more ominous!).
Very well said.
The space. Note placement and bounce is kinda lost these days.
I've always seen Sabbs as a protest band commenting at the shit we ( as humans) keep getting ourselves into. And the saddest thing is, we have learned nothing in like 50 plus years.
Soundgarden actually changes the lyrics to lyrics inspired by Chief Sealth (who I believe Seattle was named after) talking about how precious the land is. Same theme, different angle. It's an amazing cover. Some other notables are Monster Magnet and Kyuss cover it in very different styles too!
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