TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on DOUBLEDEALER
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- Three forms, two partners, and no loyalty! These are The Basics on the Powermaster mercenary, DOUBLEDEALER!
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I could see him be business partners with Swindle
Maybe Swindle is his mentor!
Yeah
If Swindle were a good business man, he'd change his name.
More like backstabbing each other for better deals and grudgingly drinking together in Maccadam's because nobody else would.
Or lockdown
"Did Dealer betray us?" Is still one of the hypest moments in IDW
Once Hot Rod let go of his guilt, the answer was obvious
Shows how smart Doubledealer is. He didn’t even consider the fact the Autobot he was trying to kill held a device that could answer ANY question! What did he think was going to happen?
I love how some of these names (Doubledealer, Swindle, Flip Sides) are obvious illusions to negative aspects of their character, but everyone remains oblivious to that fact until it's too late.
Dealer why are you just standing there
Rodimus asked the magic 8 ball if he was sus
Honestly, I think the Powermasters were probably the last real high point of Western G1. Big, cool toys with interesting transformations, fun altmodes, and a gimmick that works well. You really have to wonder which Hasbro executive looked between Submarauder and Dreadwind and picked the former as the model for all the larger toys of the line's next year. And Doubledealer was easily one of the best Powermasters.
The choice was probably purely a cost saving measure to eek whatever last drops of profit they could out of the waning line.
@@EmeralBookwise I certainly wouldn't doubt it. Most of the Pretenders, even the Mega and Ultra varieties, had about as many moving parts as a Minibot.
And possibly one of the best master concepts because you can display them beside their big robots without it feeling too incomplete
I found him in my loft and thought 'oh cool another autobot, wait whys this move if the vehicle is do-oh he's a triple changer....wait. which is he? Who is he?!'
@Kristopher Prime I only just learned about Doubledealer through the manga.
Doubledealer was always one of the more interesting characters to come out of G1 related media. There aren't a lot of bounty-hunter-esque characters in transformers, so learning about one is always fascinating.
Like Defcon
Devcon*
Lockdown: Am I a joke to you?
I don't like how most modern media have forgotten that his bird mode even exists
They don't want to show the............ you know
Are you a girl or a boy ? BattleUp Saber pls tell me I want to know
I agree! The bird mode is so important.
I like it. Never really been a fan of bots who could turn into beasts. The Missile Carrier is cool, anyways.
Hes like the robo-hawk from judas priest's screaming for vengeance album cover, or the eagle war-plane from pink floyds the wall. I love it! =]
These switching transformers are like Superman and Clark Kent. Somehow nobody notices they look identical
Double Dealer deserves so much more. I want to see him and Punch/CP to star in something together
We need a Pirate style series of Non-Faction Cybertronians like
-Lockdown
-Sideways
-Counterpunch
-Doubledealer
& others who i don't know/don't remember names of
@@Angel_Love6680 technically Counterpunch is an Autobot disguised as a Decepticon (or in some cases just a Decepticon personality) but either way he is definitely loyal to one of the factions.
@@PG2994 stupid bloody spys
I’d never even heard of Double Dealer until I saw him in IDW comics.
And I had no idea he was supposed to be a triple-changer.
So thank you for filling us in on his backstory!
I love how doubledealer was in earthrise. He died a very painful death, though
@Konstantins Zelcs his ship blew up with him inside it
@Konstantins Zelcs true, but he was uncounceus. I hope he does survive
I doubt he survivwd but manw as he cool
He didn’t survive
@@shadowmarauder6033 Not to mention, before that, he was mind-controlled by a Quintesson who literally sliced off four of its faces!
The best thing about Doubledealer for me will always be the missile dong in his bird mode.
And I didn't even own that toy.
That IDW spotlight, found in a public library, was my first introduction to IDW comics, and indeed my first exposure to any transformer comics after the fall of Dreamwave, the comics I'd read as a kid. I enjoyed it very much, but it wasn't until a few years after that I realized it was part of an ongoing comic universe. I was so glad to have ongoing transformers comics after that :>
It helped that most stories were written/drawn by fans turned professionals (even Simon Furman was involved with the comics). Some of them even got started in Dreamwave.
I think I remember having a bootleg toy of this when I was a kid. IT was broken and couldn't transform anymore but I brought it with me everywhere anyway, man never thought I'd get nostalgic over an obscure character
I kinda like the idea of two people sharing the same transtector. The idea makes me think of either a brother and sister or maybe even a husband and wife not knowing the other has the bot. The girl wanting to rebel and act out and the boy being kind strait laced and goodie goodie. Really works as the bird is the "evil" one being able to fly freely and the bot being well as your said a Super Robot fighting for justice.
Not quite the same but in Super-God Masterforce, Overlord was the combination of the Godmaster husband and wife Giga and Mega. Giga was the tank and Mega was the jet. Still, your idea is different and interesting in its own right!
@@kirkkerman Yeah I did like Giga and Mega.
Good Stuff Chris.
It's good that a character like DoubleDealer has had some involvement here and there in the franchise albeit very brief because this character has a lot of potential for future stories in western media, however Netflix did a solid by giving him a role in the recent show because it could lead to more involvement down the line.
I'm not massively into DoubleClouder but the idea used for Masterforce was interesting to see develop.
4:08 Zack Snyder's transformers
Double dealer: when can I see your best doctor?
Doctor lockdown: why right now of course please have a seat on the chair I don't want you falling to bits😈
Double dealer: ok ?
Doctor lockdown: YES 😈
I always loved the concept of an Autobot mode and a Decepticon mode. I wouldn't mind owning a Doubledealer, Punch/Counterpunch, or an Animated Shockwave one day!
Punch/counterpunch is still available on Amazon
Quite awesome to be both sides.
Since they've introduced the mercenary affiliation in the Transformers Earthrise Netflix series I wonder if this will mean that Lockdown will appear in a future episode of that show as one of the many Bounty Hunters on the mercenary faction
Still feel there's a great story to be done for this guy that properly uses his dual allegiance better ala what's been done with counter punch. Very underutilised.
Yeah.
Well Punch is an Autobot Spy but I get what you mean
I'd like to see that two humans sharing Doubledealer idea be revisited one day.
it would have been funny that if they dId
or if he has two human partners that they would be in love or hate each other .
@@thesailormercury2 optimus prime : double dealer that symbol you wearing you are one of the Mercenary Faction
That would be cool but how would they do it
Doubleclouder* but yeah I agree
they already did that with Overlord tho
I’ve been refreshing since 4 o’clock... don’t judge my lack of sleep
lol
Are we almost close to finally having The Transformers Basics of The Battlechargers(Runamuck and Runabout), Skyshadow/ Black shadow, The Coneheads (Dirge, Ramjet, Thrust), and long requested basics of Brawn at last right? 😞🙏
I guess Doubledealer could sorta be seen as the inspiration for Armada's Sideways, not a triple changer really but he did have slightly different robot forms between his Autobot and Decepticon guises IIRC
@Konstantins Zelcs Oh yeah I forgot about Punch-Counterpunch that's totally fair yeah. I even watched the vid on them and everything
These are the best part of every Saturday morning!
Damn right. It is part of my weekly routine to look forward the Basics all week, and then to love it on a Saturday morning. It's superb.
What an intriguing concept for a "Transformer spy" & toy. I would've really liked to have seen him re-imagined in the Beast Wars show (hopefully w/ a double-barrel blaster). I think his "treachery" would've put schemers like Tarantulas to shame. And unlike Tarantulas, he'd actually have 2 loyal partners to work with.
Having a transformer that can turn into both a bird and vechicle to ‘double deal’ is a real cool concept and I’m kinda sad it didn’t come back or get alliterated on in the future.
Even though the show was short I still love the idea of a mercenary faction in transformers lore, I hope we see more of that idea
It’s not a Faction, it’s the Opposite of a Faction
You’d think with Doubledealer’s unique mercenary personality in the G1 line, he’d be used far more often in the Marvel, DW and IDW 1.0 comics.
Doubledealer: **is a triple changer**
Me: wait that's illegal
In the words of Palpatine/Sidious, "I will *make* it legal."
I know, wrong franchise-- sue me. 😀
"It's not illegal. I don't want it to be illegal, so it's not."
Usually you catch these but he was also recently added to the transformers earth wars game.
Pretty good job done on his three modes
So underutilized! Double Dealer should a mayor roll on the TF media!
Can you do the Basics on Scourge. You weirdly haven’t done the last member of the Heralds of Unicron
I mean, what much is there to do on him
@@chadderbug7587 I mean, there’s a lot of stuff to do on him. We got a new figure on him in the SS line, there were 2 different versions of him, and it’s only self explanatory for him to get a basics on him since he already did one on Galvatron and Cyclonus.
Isn't scourge the autobot that got melted in the marvel comics? or the other evil optimus?
@@tricksterzyro3230 Both technically
There was also the Cybertron Scourge.
I HAVENT CLICKED SO FAST IN MY LIFE. My favorite mercenary besides Soundblaster
This has been my all time favorite character and I'm so glad he got put into Earthrise!
i just realized in the earthrise show the coneheads aren't like their toy but rather the siege seekers toy so possible generation selects toys might make them like the show model
I really hope they are repainted from the Siege mold.
@@windsweeper8002 they have to be repainted AND remolded especially cause of their head
Perfect timing. Opened CZcams looking for a quick video
Like the story about double dealer! He and Swindle would make a great team!
Until one backstabs the other.
Awesome to get Double Dealer!
I find the rogue type of characters truly interesting.
Thanks for putting him up.
Doubledealer always gets the best deals. The best action figures, best transformation gimmick, and best stories in the comic books. You will not make a bad deal when dealing with Doubledealer.
Fun fact - in the russian subtitles of ER at Netflix his name was translated like "Chameleon"
*While WFC Knok and Skar were remolds of cassette based molds, they weren't really cassette tapes. They were used in Doubledealer in pretty much the exact same way. So you could still consider them Powermasters.*
Doubledealer: "MONEY MONEY MONEY, MONEEEEEEEYYY!!"
Everybody's got a price.
Fantastic video about one of my favourite transformers of all time! I really hope he turns out to have survived in Siege as he could be such a fascinating character.
You should name a month triple changer month for well triple changers
I instantly look at the name Doubledealer and think, "Nope! I am NOT trusting that guy."
I remember watching transformers masterforce and transformers victory as kid
This is my first time hearing about this character. Now I have to find that anime and rewatch earthrise. Cause I never finished it lol
I would like to see a version of Doubledealer, (or at least a new transformer), that is a secret agent actively trying to bring down both Autobots and Decepticons for both causing and escalating the war on Cybertron and turning it into a planet wide wasteland.
Would love to Seaspray covered some time soon
Love the content! Keep it up, your stuff's amazing!
He lives up to the tagline "More than meets the eye".
Earthrise Double Dealer having a cassette chamber kind of makes me want to make a custom Soundwave out if him. I'd change his head and colors, see if I can give him a more Soundwave like chest, and turn the bird mode into a bat.
Damn, that seems like a pretty good idea.
I found a Generations Doubledealer at a garage sale this summer and was able to ID it thanks to this episode!
I had the original and was a favourite :) but I lost one of the parts :( (Hmm, I'm surprised that that as far as I can tell there wasn't a story where Doubledealer encountered Punch/Counterpunch...)
@Konstantins Zelcs thanks, I hope you'll do a Basics on the Deception Octus, please (if you haven't already)
He is such an interesting character and I have his earthrise toy and think that its pretry cool
Can you give it a tape-deck fan mode, given it has space for cassettes? :)
@@originaluddite nope lol last time I transformed him I broke the leg off the peg. My dad needed to cut thr mushroom peg and put the leg back on. I'm never transforming him again. I didnt get much of the micro masters because I didn't really like them.
When Transformers are too scary to transform! We've all been there.
Fun fact from my history: When I was young, I have this faint recalling that I have actually handled G1 Doubledealer toy but didn't what it was at the time.
For that, I should really have ER Doubledealer toy. I admit though that his T30 does even to this day itch my interest (despite flaws what T30 Blitzwing mold had).
I would like Basics on Astrotrain as I would like to know (though I can guess) was his mold intented to be part of Diaclone series.
That Forgotten Transformer Was The Inspiration 4 The Autobot Longarm/Decepticon Shockwave Double Agent From “Transfomers: Animated” On Cartoon Network 📺 That Aired From 2007-09! ❤️💙 💜🤍
I remember seeing the Generation version toy in a toy shop but since I read beforehand with Blitzwing tight transformation which was the mold he was based from (still had the same issue), I didn't buy him!
*SWINDLE:* WHo are you?
*DOUBLE DEALER:* I'm you but better in every way.
The latest Doubledealer/Clouder figure actually has the Powermaster/Godmaster gimmick...the "engine" on his torso comes off and you can attach it to the back of the cassettes.
I remember the first time I saw G1 Double Dealer at a friend's house. Blew my mind. Toys back then had so much heft and presence.
DD Get out of my Laboratory!
Wow again great video Chris and crew thanks I actually managed to find the leader class earthrise figure of him and probably going to keep it in the box at least for now lol too bad that it wasn't a powermaster and headmaster too, looking forward to the next one. Have a nice weekend there
i enjoy learning new stuff about my transformers keep up the great work
Another very informative Video Chris!!! Is there a possibility for a basics on the powermasters?
I was introduced to him through the Spotlight issues
Not a lot of classic G1 triple changers with beast and vehicle modes
Except for the Horrorcons
0:21 I'm loving that bird mode.....
Have to say your new videos most Saturdays is among my highlights of the week usually. Thank you for the great work.
I like the Japanese concept way more. It makes so much more sense if the Headmasters and Godmasters are the actual guys, and the big robots are just their mechs.
It sort of takes them back to their Diaclone toy origins as mechs. Personally, I like sentient alien robots, but it was good they decided to change things and keep it interesting.
@@originaluddite The Headmasters are still alien robots, they're just small.
No it’s stupid japan always does weird stuff
@@HiperPivociarz The Headmasters are Cybertronian. They fled the war and crashed on a planet so dangerous in atmosphere, that they had to build bigger and stronger bodies to survive. And of course, it's the origin of the Godmasters (thanks to Devil Z!).
@@soundwavesuperior5596 You say that as if transformers having green men in their heads and that supposedly making them stronger is not stupid.
im finally up when he uploads! i love doubledealer he was number one on my list from a couple years ago.
This was a great video and BTW Doubledealer G1 I still have in my collection today. Just a cool concept for a character after we had only known good vs evil from the start.
I prefer the Masterforce version of Double Dealer.
Masterforce is pretty underrated...it's a shame we didn't get the anime in the West, instead of that god awful Rebirth miniseries...I just pretend it doesn't exist and watch Headmasters instead whenever I revisit the old series.
Hot rod: Double dealer stop switching sides
Double dealer: NEVER
The basics on Minerva?
I love that Doubledealer is the father of all allegiance switching Transformers we have like Armada Sideways, Cybertron Sideways (Noisemaze) and by further extension Animated Shockwave who has a undercover mode, the universe Dinobot toy and Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia toy who both can switch between Predacon and Maximal factions
I just pick up a complete G1 DoubleDealer a few days ago. Thanks for doing a review on his history.
Please do Sunstreaker, Rattrap, Kup or Tarantulas next.
Would love to see how IDW handle this character in their new continuity.
I think road rage has potential for a basics episode
Love your work brother 😊🤘
Probably my favorite in the seige line along with Spinister.
Lets hope he got that quintesson out of his head to see this
Spoilers:
He gets blown up in a spaceship
@@epicphantom589 I know it was supposed to be a joke
Ok
every time you do a video on a recent figure I have the newfound urge to go and pick them up. my filling shelf and emptying wallet hate your series :)
Love the idea behind this character
Always wanted the G1 toy after reading his one appearance in the comics. Never found it anywhere.
This helped me to better understand Doubledealer even more, and now I love his character to bits. :)
The slightly-off proportions of the shown kids(?) in Super God Masterforce just make me think of the Samurai Pizza Cats
WFC ER DD is one of my favorite figures, and I have the whole trilogy line.
The IDW comic was my introduction to Doubledealer
I'm gonna read that original comic story, because it's so good
This is the first video I ever see on youtube without any dislikes, great video!!
I really enjoyed Doubledealer in War For Cybertron. Hes one of my favorite characters in general
Even though he was separated from his transtector, it hasn't stopped Clouder with former Seacons to join Autobots in final battle with a huge pile of weapons.
Even though they were late to party and Autobots already won.
As a kid this was one of my favorite transformers to play with. I never had him unfortunately one of friends did. So I only got to play with it at his house. I really liked his 3 different forms a lot.
Please Chris make a video about the Transtech!
Fun fact: in the super god masterforce show the omni productions dub referred to him as doubledealer. Probably to go along with the g1 color scheme. Good idea:)
Well, that's not canon so we only got to see him in earthrise
@@gabrielchee8470 I didn’t think of it. It happened years before earthrise.
@@frankforttheorangee2produc110 oh right IDW
@@gabrielchee8470 and it was Omni productions that called him his U.S name. Since the original dub was Japanese.
@@frankforttheorangee2produc110 and Hasbro doesn't want to admit it exists
Him, armada sideways, animated swindle, animated shockwave and counter punch would make a great spy faction while swindle rakes in the cash
If this wasn’t in the commercials for his toy, I’ll be surprised:
DOUBLEDEALER: HE DEALS WITH DOUBLE THE POWER WITH HIS TWO POWERMASTER PARTNERS
Both Punch-Counterpunch and Doubledealer had one of the coolest gimmick, but he hasn´t been use enough