Stage 4 Cancer: Don't Make the Same Mistakes I Did.
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2023
- My name is Tammy Skinner Pugh. I'm Jerry Skinners daughter. I lost my husband Dave to
Stage 4 small cell lung cancer October 11th of this year. It's been devastating to all of us.
You are in a desert. You know someone is on their way across the desert to destroy you.
You have two choices.
1. Go into a cave. Sit there in the darkness and wait for death.
2. Start your journey across the desert to meet your enemy head on. Yes, you will get hungry, thirsty, hot, tired and scared along the way. You may even die from the heat before you get there, but if you make it, as small as the chances may be, you could come out the victor.
We chose to cross the desert and fight. - Zábava
My name is Tammy Skinner Pugh. I'm Jerry Skinners daughter. I lost my husband Dave to
Stage 4 small cell lung cancer October 11th of this year. It's been devastating to all of us.
During this nightmare, I learned a few things about our medical community that I was shocked to find out.
I believe that stage 4 cancer patients are discriminated against by our medical professionals who swore to not discriminate. They are tossed aside as "hopeless" and not given adequate treatment or compassion. It should not be allowed to continue.
This video is my weak attempt to try and keep someone from experiencing some of the things we did, and by doing so, hopefully, my Dave will not have died in vein.
I have to add that we did have some wonderful nurses during this nightmare. One inpaticular at the last hospital was amazing.
I don’t blame them all. I just wish they were all like her.
Are they even actually stage 4 or even cancer?
OMG Ms Tammy I had to STOP ✋ listening and BREATH!!
I live in Vancleave Jackson County Mississippi I’m so sorry for your loss!! Also I’m So F**k**g PISSED AGGRAVATED, DISGUSTED, etc..keep fighting!! Keep talking!!!! ((Whereabouts in Mississippi do ya’ll live?)) I’ve lost SO MANY loved ones in the last 10 years I believe nowadays medical big Pharma is nothing but a joke and you’re absolutely right they don’t care!!!!
@@roseO1984 I live in north Mississippi. Thank you ❤
I agree, we are denied life saving surgery in the United States. I gained remission and still couldn't get a hysterectomy. It's horrible. Then having to advocate for my scans as most oncologist now feel if there aren't any symptoms, then no need to scan. Luckily I got my primary doc involved and was able to get a scan at month 9 post remission. I was told that I didn't need to be on any medication when I went into remission. Well my scan showed a right ovarian mass, several lymph nodes, peritoneal mets, and to top it off a 2cmx2cm brain lesion. I'm 41. Diagnosed originally at age 40. I had sterotactic Radiosurgery to the area. My oncologist said she couldn't use the medication regimen as before due to shortage but I believe she just wanted to try me on an antibody drug conjugate. Do yourself a favor if you have cancer. Never settle for just an antibody drug conjugate. My cancer wasn't showing progress. Midway. Some things increased and some decreased but not by much. I said that I would like to try something different. My brain lesion was now resolved from Radiosurgery. She said they could have a delayed effect. I thought 3 months would be delayed enough for me. Needless to say, I developed a severe eye infection from the antibody drug conjugate. Then, my follow-up scan for my brain, Radiosurgery, showed cancer spread into my spinal fluid and surrounding my brain. A very rate metastasis. Leptomeningeal disease. Now, she said she would put me on the prior regimen. Really? It is costing my life. However, she said I needed to do intrathecal chemotherapy first, and then she would resume systemic. My radiation oncologist had to order whole brain radiation and spinal radiation. It's been a nightmare. My right leg is numb and weak. My right had numb and weak. My oncologist for intrathecal chemotherapy is going to administer the dose in the hospital, but l also have a referral for neurosurgery as they want to place an ommaya reservoir into my brain for the remaining doses. Why can't they just improve the life quality and do this intrathecal chemotherapy for all doses in the spine in the hospital. Its more of a convenience for them vs. patient. I literally have months to live. My kids and hubby are so devastated.
@callistahatten9590 I so admire your courage. I think the doctors just throw everything at the wall to see what sticks. If they even both to throw anything.
You know how you feel. You know inside what your body can handle and what it can't. You decide what you are willing to take from the wall. Not them.
Another thing they never tell you is that there are other alternatives out there. You don't have to pick from just their menu. Look around.
Hugs to you ❤
My 13 year old son had Stage 4 cancer! The docs said their was nothin more they could do and to put my 13 year old on Hospice. I declined!!! I didnt give up and got him into a Clinical trial. He is still around almost 9 years later!!!! He is a miracle and SCREW THOSE DOCTORS
He's fortunate to have a mother who fought for him. So many don't have anyone.
Thank you for sharing this. ❤
SO VERY THANKFUL FOR YOUR FAM
Tina, thank-you so very much for sharing your son's story. In the world of cancer. We desperately need every success story out there. You offer people a thread of hope. That they need so badly.❤
@@juaquiene7726 Thank you!💓 Miracles can and do happen. There was a painting inside my son's oncology office that said "Never ever ever give up!" I made those words, my motto! #HOPE
Great job Mom! They are practicing medicine and are not always right. Cancer is a metabolic disease and can be treated as such.
I have stage 4 and my Dr at the Mayo said there is hope. That was 2 years ago. Taking life one day at a time!
You have a wonderful doctor. Hope is so powerful. ❤
My brother in law had stage 4 cancer in 2012, yet it had not spread. He did have chemo and radiation, no surgery. More than 10 yrs later he is still here and cancer free. He did lose many back teeth cuz the radiation made bones in mouth extremely fragile (esophageal cancer). Where there is breath there is hope!
🙏AMEN 🙏 You have a very compassionate Doctor. God Bless You And Your Family 🙏
Look into Ferbendazole (Joe Tippens story) and detoxing, clean water. Organic food
Stay away from sugars.
My brother was diagnosed stage 4 cancer 3 years ago he is still here thank you Jesus. He is living with cancer and takes one day at a time.
اذا اردت ان تقدم له هدية ف اني ادعوك الى البحث عن قصص شفاء شيقة و ستجد عليها العديد من قصص الشفاء من السرطان و امراض اخرى بالنظام الغذائي و اشياء اخرى ....
Get him some fenbendazole. Look up Joe Tippens protocol.
Amen, thank you Yesus
Stay away from Process foods , sodas, junk food , etc.....Anything with Sugar and Sugar Addictive's .
Intermitting fasting will help . Always do your own research on these topics.
Check out Professor Thomas Seyfried , he's always on someone video throughout CZcams.
And there's another man who lived through Cancer and now he doesn't have it .
Research "fenben"and Joe Tippens protocol...
... and I will add my prayers.. 🙏
I thought we were the only ones with this treatment. My Jim went threw the same thing
. Fighting the lions for his life. Before he passed he said” tell everyone cancer did not kill me the treatment did.”
I'm afraid we are not alone in this, unfortunately ❤
Hello. I watched this video. I was shocked that this had happened to another person besides my wife.
My wife is a dedicated nurse at the veterans administration. She had helped so many soldiers through their plight. She started the first ever suicide prevention program for the veterans. She has started other fall programs and hydration programs for the old Veterans as well. She taught other nurses how to respect their job by treating the veterans in a way that made the others love their patients.
My wife had just passed her nurse practitioner doctorate in clinical Psychiatry to give the rest of her life to dedicate to the other veterans suffering from Psychiatry problems. My wife had worked for the veterans for 18 years. We had been married for 10 years after being together for 13 years. Last year in October when she finished her doctorate degree and received all of her licenses she was so proud of working so hard to achieve, she had a headache.
She went to the ER at St John's in Santa monica. They said there was a mass in her head. She had to get further examinations and x-rays and a pet scan Finally Revealed that she had stage 4 cancer. A cancer that is the second most rapid in advancing. It started in her cerebellum in her head it went to the spine and then went to the hips. The pet scan showed everything.
The doctor said she should get chemo then the next day of the doctor called and said no she should get radiation. We were afraid what to do since the doctor seem like he didn't know what to do. We decided to go to radiation at ucsf. After 6 weeks of bombardment to her brain spine and hips and losing 30 lbs and all her hair. They said that she was free of cancer they felt but would not know for 2 months. They advised her to go back home to Los Angeles where we had followed up oncology with St John's. The people at St John's said that she had stage 4 and there was nothing they could do for her.
We were shocked. We thought that they were going to do another pet scan which was advised by the doctor that gave her the original radiation.
Butt the oncologist doctors at St John's said that they could not do anything. They said it was stage 4 cancer and there was nothing they could do. I asked them three times to please take another p e t scan because then we could align the old pictures that were done before the radiation and see if the new pictures show cancers are still be there or to be maybe less or maybe stage 3 or something.
They said they will not do another PET scan because they knew it was stage 4 cancer and she was going to die. They told her to go to a hospice and they gave her a prescription of 150 Oxycontin and said call when you need more.
The pain started getting worse. We asked them to please take a pet scan but they said no again. We said we'd like to know what the pain is from maybe there's some way that we can make the pain better. They refused to do any more pictures.
We had the best insurance it was federal employee insurance program. It was a ppo. The doctors would not do anything more. We kept asking for help. The only time we got help was when she was forced to go into the hospital because the blood balance was bad for her. She had to get platelets. It turned out to where she had platelets every day.
The doctor of the hospital said that he would not have her there anymore because the insurance company would not cover it. He said besides that that they were out of platelets. He lied to her and told her that there was a special step-down Center where she could go get platelets.. they forced her out of the hospital. She was in no clinical shape to go it was against medical advice if anybody would have ever examined her. She had less than 3,000 platelets when they snuck her out of the hospital after they pushed me out earlier because they wanted to make sure that I was not stop them from moving her out of the hospital.
The step down Center was terrible. They gave her a shot and she went into a coma. I called the paramedics. The nurse is blocked the doors of her room when the paramedics came. The head nurse of the place said the paramedics were not allowed there and they knew the contractual agreement that the stepdaughter made with the local paramedic service Fire Department.
She was at by this point in a coma we had to get her to a better Hospital one like the one she was thrown out of earlier that day.
Her sister and I got her in the backseat of the car at 4:00 a.m. and she was in convulsions. The car was shaking so bad I thought it was something with the engine but it was her body in convulsions from the injections that put her into the coma.
We got her into Cedar-Sinai that morning at 4:00 a.m. they did a brain scan when she was admitted to see if there was him or treating from the low platelets that the center out of St John's with at that level it was unsafe to move her. And in any case she did not have Hemorrhage thank God
They also said she did not have any sign of cancer in her head. And the whole time the Saint John's people were saying they cannot save her at stage 4 she has cancer and they can't do anything about it and they refused to give her a pet scan to see if the radiation kill all the cancer
The bottom line was the doctor is at St John's said it was stage 4 and there was nothing she could do. The death certificate said it was cancer that she died from. But I think we could have saved her life if the doctors at St John had done the second pet scan to compare it to the first one but all the doctor said at St John's was we're not doing anything because she has stage 4 cancer and she's dying.... I do not think that stage 4 cancer is always a death sentence. But we never got the chance to find out. But based on the fact that the doctors never checked to see, it seems to me that this is what they always do and this is why this video pointed that out and why so many other people that have had an experience like this are still in shock that the medical system and the insurance system work in concert purposely do not pay extra money for tests or possibly more expensive stage 4 procedures to get the patient better.
My wife was a colleague. She was a doctor. She was a nurse that took care of all the Fallen Soldiers so that we could have a free country. She was forced out of St John's Hospital by the director of the hospital. He told her if she doesn't leave because of the budgetary conundrum he was in with the insurance company that we had that said that she could get these platelet treatments anywhere. By the way when we first got to that step down Center where they gave her the injection, I asked the charge nurse where are the platelets she's surprised she said why would we have platelets here or a pulmonary hospital. I said well the doctor at St John's said that that's why she was sitting here. They said that they did not have platelets to hear but they're going to arrange it for the next day. My wife was critical. But she never would have gotten that critical if right after the radiation treatments the next arm of treatment which was St John's oncologist did something besides saying to her the whole time you're dying on a stage 4 cancer and we can't help you. Like I said they never ordered another pet scan which would have shown whether the radiation have worked or not and proven whether the cancer was truly stage 4 or possibly pushed back from the radiation to possibly stage three cancer.
I miss my wife terribly she was my best friend and she was truly my only friend after 20-plus years of being together as all marriages know how that goes.
I want to file a class action lawsuit against all insurances that deny stage 4 patients help for their cancer and against all doctors that are complicit with insurance companies in this regard. If you like to get involved please contact me through the link attached to the little icon of my name at the beginning of this long statement. Thank you and God bless all you that fight the fight still still. I do not believe that the treatments even work I believe that it's a scam and a gimmick and they prey on all of us when we're fearful and we want to hang on to our lives and we believe in his system and we pay the most highest money into the best insurance that ignores us and laughs at us in our face as they deny us treatment
of course chemo is the culprit. Many with cancer live for decade if they sort out their lifestyle, eat vegan, exercise and take 0 stress
My mum had stage 4 cancer , I often tell people the cancer didn't kill her, how she was treated by the hospital and the treatment itself killed her. But strange because years go by and my dad was dying in a care home they tryed to keep him alive as long as possible because they were bleeding him dry of every penny he owned , I had to insist they called in palletive care team as he was in so much pain and I new he was dying and wanted to go , I persisted to call a consultant in who in deed said my father was dying and had maybe a few days, the palletive team did make his last few days less painful for him and told the care home to back off.
Oh Marsha … so sad for you.
What a true statement !
I am a stage 4 cancer survivor of over 30 years. Two pathology labs confirmed I had stage 4. 6 weeks later it was gone. I was 31 years old. I am 66 years old and still cancer free. I am a nutrition counselor. All I did was eat tons of carrots and lots of veggies with very little sugar and no dairy. God was gracious and thankful for my Savior Jesus Christ. I am so very sorry fir your loss and hospitals are usually not advocating for the patient. More so, greed and profit. 😢
Hope you locate a Seventh Day Adventist Church in your area .... God DID Heal you !!!!
'Greed and profit' 😢 After the pandemic, this became even more clear. We have One to trust and follow Yeshua (Jesus). He is going to give those who seek Him incorruptible bodies.
My brother went through a treatment and we pray like never before. He was healed at the time. Now it is back, but we are trusting God for the same outcome. He is in treatment right now. There is no reason to doctor not to try to save every one of us, whatever it is the diagnosis.
i stage 4 one spot in my sacrum1.5cm but dr gave me target drug few weeks later pet scan show disappered now 3 years now still clear scan i now small cell lung cancer now they treat with immune drug
That’s very peculiar
My former husband was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in 2004. He is in perfect health today. Indeed its not always a desth sentence. Greetings from Switzerland.
That's wonderful to hear. Thank you ❤
How
@@kimberiysmarketstrategy Kimberley, everyone is different so maybe what works for one does not work for all. As soon as he was diagnosed, I gave him a copy of Dr. Joseph Murphy's book 'the power of your subsconscious'. I was skeptical he would read it but he found it very convincing. It basically teaches the scientific method to re-condition the mind; the law of cause and effect. Trust me, it works. I have used it on family, friends and acquaintances as well as myself. It takes time to train but if you or a loved one is ill start saying right now 'thank you for my perfect health'. You can be a believer or atheist, it works for everyone. I also advised my husband on including green tea, bitter almonds, and other foods which I can't remember and cutting out fast and slow sugars (breads and pasta). The best of luck to you.
Can u share the story hows he survive?
So sorry for the loss of your Husband.😢
God Bless you for all you both went through.❤❤
Your photos and videos are Beautiful.😍
Love to you and all your family.
❤🙏
RIP Dave.❤
Small town healthcare is substandard. Never leave your loved one alone in the hospital…ever! I am sorry for your loss of your beloved husband. The US healthcare system is poor these days. Thank you for your testimony. I am an RN with 45 years experience.
Thank you ❤
Thank you
I tell people all the time but no one believes me, especially my family.
I find small-town healthcare much better as they will quickly do for you and listen to your needs. Referral to teaching centers is devastating. I just as soon my person die at home rather than trying to get appointments straightened out in a major teaching university. My husband has cancer and has known it since August when he was biopsied and referred. Still nothing done but more appointments with the specialists and they know what it is and are supposed to do surgery and then that was delayed until it was too late. They were going to do immunotherapy back in November. Here it is almost February and still getting the appointment desk runaround although his tumor has now inflamed and is infected. We are having to get treatment, where we do get treatment, in the small towns.
This needs to be shared and often. Tammy I am so sorry for your loss. My hubby has been diagnosed stage 3 liver failure. I fought for him. But this last yr and 5 mos He's decided I am his problem even though I have mostly been out of the picture. Here in DFW The oncology Buildings are a Gold mine. I saw it first hand with a very dear friend who wanted to live did radiation therapy and daughter talked into chemo even though she knew chemo kills everything even the good cells. At the last her entire body was full of cancer. My Spiritual Big Sister gave up the Ghost. She's happy in heaven . It's been 11 yrs since that horrible day. I was angry 💢 at the New Pastor who Sis said to vote in. He matter of factly said La Nelle is back home now they've asked us to pray but no visitors at this time.She does need our Prayers... I was broken and continued The Service like the founding Matriarch could die any moment was no big deal. I felt like we should have stormed Heaven on her behalf. That afternoon she left For her Real home. Been there lost close friends. One we were praying for and I sent out specific prayer requests but she gave up too. They just did radiation therapy but She just thought she deserved cancer ♋ sad but GOD doesn't rule against freewill. In Oregon There tree called Moringa tree it heals cancer. I saw a series on it I think it's on You Tube. Never give Up. Mother in law got a hospital virus while recuperating from knee surgery. 93 she also caught pneumonia from it. Unfortunately we think She was murdered by negligence. We got her in rehab but she was out on liquid thickener. Christmas day the nurse ordered her to drink her OJ without thickener and she gagged then died a few days later . She's had an DNR but it was for not doing CPR not helping someone when they gag was sad. Plus they put her on morphine drip. Happy she's in Heaven but DNR needs specifics. She wasn't dying about to come out of it but the DNR. When our family said no ventilator tube . Was about to reverse the DNR her kidneys started shutting down. Happened with my Severely MR brother they gave him morphine to relax him and that killed him not the double pneumonia. He'd had DP about 8 times in his 58 yrs. They killed in while I was on a video call singing to him. But GOD is absolutely Good regardless. You almost wonder how much they get paid by the insurance company to stop payments faster. (millions people died of ovidca who'd been vaccinated) Research it. Anyway Dave is enjoying Our Real home Heaven now and interceding for you Tammy and your family. Shalom Shalom Peace so sorry you have had to go through this. Make sure you forgive all involved including yourself. GOD does. Otherwise it ruins the rest of Your life domino affect. Been there poison self but when I forgave even though redone over over again. Such freedom came to me. Our Lord helped me forgive continually until rip they didn't trigger me anymore. @Jerry Skinner please tell Your Tammy I think she has a best seller book there. People need to read it and hear it. 😅😅❤❤❤ Sorry for y'all loss.
@@patfondren6013
Thank you for this beautiful love story. I’m a registered nurse over 35 years and I have watched the deterioration of the healthcare system. Nursing schools should make this video a mandatory part of their curriculum. Your video helped me make decisions regarding the care of my 53-year-old sister that had a massive stroke. I will keep her home much love to you and your family and again thank you.❤
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What a horrible young female doctor.
So sorry you and Dave had to tolerate
this treatment. Somebody read her
the riot act! That's where I am in the
video right now. Feel like I'm right
there with you.😖
Too much free healthcare to those who did not contribute to the pool of the healthcare system. Government excessive expenses are straining the budget, too. Healthcare insurance is good at getting your money, but when it's time in need, they look at your condition. A poor or chronic condition is the least priority, but they are not focused on prevention, or regulating unhealthy food that puts this country's healthcare in crisis. Prevention is better than intervention.
اذا اردت ان تقدم له هدية ف اني ادعوك الى البحث عن قصص شفاء شيقة و ستجد عليها العديد من قصص الشفاء من السرطان و امراض اخرى بالنظام الغذائي و اشياء اخرى ....
I NEVER watch videos that are more than 20-30 minutes long. I watched every second of this one. Bless you for the sacrifice that this video is, having to relive such a terrible time. You fought for your love and here you are fighting for total strangers on the internet. You're a hero!
Ditto, never watch long video but, I listened to every second of this....
Tammy (contrary to the title) I can't see where you did ANYTHING wrong. What a support team Dave had in you❤ KNOW this, you've someone watching over you for sure!!
Ditto here!
I knew I wouldn't watch more than a few minutes.
BUT! I too, listened to every word!
What a horrible ordeal!
I had to keep reminding myself that this story did NOT take place in some 3rd world country!!
My heart breaks for you! How utterly awful!
They inflicted an untold depth of damage on YOU! Keep fighting, and I pray you can find healing.
Bless your heart so sorry for your lost and he was lucky to have you to fight for him. I wish he lived longer
Thank you for sharing, it must have been hard but we all need to hear it so we can be aware, my husband has dementia and I don't know how long I will have him at home,so I am grateful for your story and making us to take note ❤🇦🇺
She absolutely is a hero.... No question about that... Such strength such compassion such love in that lady... Courageous🌹
I am a RN, a night shift nurse actually, and I am so disgusted by the care your husband received! I am so sorry for your loss 🙏 the health care system is broken people! Do NOT go to hospital unless you have NO choice! take care of your health and be a advocate for urself and your family members! Don’t leave the bedside someone needs to be there at ALL times! I know it’s sickening but that’s reality!
Thank you for your honesty. ❤
Just wow! I can see why one would question what happened when Tammy left his room for a short time to go downstairs to see her nieces or nephews. Did they finally gave him that morphine they had previously kept trying to?
I hope God takes me when I’m anywhere, but in a hospital
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@gabriellafox7948 No, I don't believe they gave him any morphine then. My niece was in the room with him then his sister. He was never alone.
i agree exsperinced first hand myself also with loveones i stayed with , you should never be alone more tan few mins or leave your loved one alone in hospital
A few years ago I had to have an emergency appendectomy and it was kinda late at night. I told my husband and his mom (he has epilepsy and doesn't drive) to go home after its done. I'd be sleeping for the rest of the night anyway and I thought I'd be perfectly fine by myself, so they left sometime later. I woke up 7am and had to pee so bad. So I called for a nurse to help me get out of the bed. When she removed the blankets I was in horror. Alot of blood had soaked thru my gown, the sheets and was on the blankets. She even looked shocked for a few seconds. She helped me up and had the bed changed and put a new gown on me. I wasn't bleeding anymore but I realized NO ONE had come to check my bandages all night. I couldn't believe I was laying there out of it, bleeding like that and no one checked on me.
No man could ask for a better wife !!! I’m so sorry for your loss !!! GOD be with you and your family !!! Stay strong !!!
Thank you ❤
I have a really low opinion of the medical field after covid. I've never witnessed such abject cowardice and conformity in my life.
I don't know why I stopped at your story but, so glad that I did. I am so sorry for the lost of your husband. I am sure your husband could see you fighting for his life, every second. I know this had to be hard making this but, you are still helping people by getting this information out. I have said for years, "Never leave your loved one(s) alone in a hospital".
God Bless you sweet lady for the Love you showed your husband every day.❤
Same, John. It was alarming. Medical doctors left-and-right were checking their brains at the door! Even as an LPN, I saw through it. I was getting offers through nurse agencies to earn 3-4 times 'normal' pay to help with the 'crisis'. I refused to be a part of it and have not and will not go back to nursing. Keeping people from their family members was absolutely criminal.
Truth
Couldn't agree more..I've lost all trust in doctors after what I've seen in the last few years.
Tammy, I am a former ICU nurse (retired). you need to remember that you fought for Dave with everything in your being. He knew that. My husband (a medical doctor) and I have promised each other never to leave the other one alone in the hospital, but to stay by one another’s side (just like you did) or have another person stay there when we need a break It’s horrible how you were treated and I’m glad others are encouraging you to register complaints to the higher authorities. It sounds like you are right about Dave’s heart damage being due to malnutrition. You did not have a good nutritionist to help you figure that out and possibly none would have been offered to you anyway. Healthcare has been changing drastically since I worked and not for the better. Please always remember, Dave had the best wife he could have had and you fought for him like a tiger.
Thank you. Your kind words mean a lot to me. ❤
Thank you for sharing . There are simple things we can dot
To manage our health that no dr had ever told me and I see many of them .
Blood pressure
02
HR
Weight
Body fat %
Muscle %
Diet
Hydration
Detoxing
Dry brushing
Sauna
Red light therapy
Enemas
Resistance training
Walking
Glucose monitoring
Emf reduction
Circadian rhythms
Sleep hygiene
Sun gazing
Supplementations
And a general rule of thumb is if you can’t eat it don’t put it on your skin or in your home .
Grounding
Nature
Fresh air
These things truly help ppl thrive ❤❤❤
Wow..this is frightening 🫣
@@tammyskinnerpugh2006You are amazing.
Health care has been bad since Rockefeller hijacked it over 100 years ago
I’m an RN and this is appalling . Yes someone needs to stay with the patient all the time.
Definitely!
This was one of the worst things about the lockdown. No one, absolutely no one was able to have their advocate to help them or to be with them when they died alone! My friend’s husband died and the doctors would not listen to her. All she did was cry out of frustrations. She had to take whatever the doctors/nurses said. I had just finished up cancer and I had to do it alone. My husband could not go with me. My brain was not working properly. My daughter who had a miscarriage had to go alone. She needed me. She needed someone to ask the right questions and get answers. I am so glad your husband had you.
@@carlameaders4352 That would have been devastating. ❤
@@carlameaders4352 happened to my cousin's. When their mom died during that "certain time" they were not allowed in the hospital room until my Aunt died. My cousin told the doctor to his face, thank you but there is no point. You took from us and her something precious we can never get back! You should be ashamed of yourself! You made my mother die alone!!
Sometimes it is a good idea for family members to be around and sometimes it backfires on them ,because they end up making decisions that greatly affect the outcome of the patient. I worked in the ICU and have seen both sides.
Hi Tammy, my name is Letty. I lost my brother to stage 4 prostate cancer over a year ago. He also passed in the emergency room, but I wasn’t as smart as you. I allowed them to inject morphine, and he never woke up after that. I am amazed by your intelligence. You knew what was best for him, and fought till the end. You did everything possible to keep him alive, and I know exactly how much you’re hurting. Thank you for making this video. It’s going to help so many other families that are going through this. Take good care of yourself. God bless you Tammy.❤🙏❤️
Hi, Letty. I'm very sorry about your brother. ❤
None of us expect that we might have to fight for the lives of our loved ones against the people we go to for help.
That is not how it's supposed to be. I wish we would change it.
Hi Tammy,
Thank you so much for your story. You are so smart with a lot of courage. Praying 🙏 peace and blessings for your whole family.
@@pj4296 Thank you very much. ❤️
Don’t blame yourself Letty .. we all grew up TRUSTING that everything was good and honourable. It’s only in old age that we “wake up” to the cold hard reality of things.
God bless you 🙏❤ for your courage to stand up! Your intelligence wanting what needs to be done and not crumbling to their negativity. Bless you with Angels surround you and family with God given comfort 🙏 ❤
I have no words for my rage right now. I went through something similar with my mom. Years of hospitals and nursing homes and the complete lack of care and negligence have taken a part of me. I'm 64 now and this happened from the time I was 17 until I turned 40. This brought up a lot of memories and anger. I am so sorry you and your husband had to go through this. Just like you, whenever I would question the doctor(s) things would always get worse. They think they are gods. I could not stay with my mom all the time because I had children and a job. I'm so proud of you and the way you stood up for your husband. You are a true warrior! I'm also so sorry you had to go through this nightmare. I'm sick to my stomach because I can see and feel your pain. You are an amazing woman.
Thank you ❤
I'm sorry anyone has to go through this.
As healthcare costs skyrocket, the quality of healthcare plummets at an alarming rate. The sicker you are the worse the treatment. There's no interest in the patient and there's no empathy for their situation. It's deplorable. If you're in agonizing pain, it won't be attended to. In most cases and you'll be sent home to suffer unwarranted torture. The state of the heartless American healthcare is disgusting and inexcusable. Thank you for being your husband's advocate, and thank you for sharing your experience, more victims need to speak out. God Bless you and your family.
You said everything that I was thinking, I've unfortunately have been through hell and back with Healthcare, it's sad and disgusting what's happening in our medical system..
Wow, that was absolutely perfect! Ditto! 💚🙏🕊
Yeah, them refusing to treat my pain is killing me. My body is giving up. I had a heart attack in September but they are pretending not to believe me. I'm young. I have advanced small fiber neuropathy and now exhibiting signs of leukemia but my blood work is in the normal range. Ps. They set the normal range too high on purpose.
I can't take chemicals, especially pharmaceuticals. Can't take cancer meds if I got cancer. Which I might have. I just found another lump in my breast. Honestly, if I died, I'd be happy. I don't want to commit suicide. I just don't want to be in pain anymore.
They forced me onto Buprenorphine because refusing to raise my morphine. Toxic. So switched to methadone. Think I am reacting to that too. Had to halt the dose increase. So because I can't take enough methadone for the pain, it's pointless. I need natural opiates and benzos.
Treatment is guided by the in house billing department. I worked in healthcare for many years and I can attest to the overwhelming financially-driven practices. In summary, our Hippocratic oath means nothing to this system. Extremely heartbreaking.
When I was 4 yrs. old my Mom and I used to take homemade soup to a very kind gentleman who had stage 4 stomach cancer. That was 61 yrs. ago! We should have had a cure by now!. It is a profitable business. Bless you all. Mr. Skinner, thank you for your wonderful stories!! BTW: I had stage 4, had a double mastectomy 14 years ago. God is good.
I am a retired ICU nurse. My heart truly goes out to you 💔...I am so happy you stayed by your husband's side and were a strong advocate for him. There is nothing I can say to lessen your pain 😢.
Thank you ❤
Except that we believe everything you said.
There may be a way for you to lessen her pain and that is to speak out against the brutality of the medical system.
Tammy, your tribute to your husband is so beautiful and touching. I am a retired nurse as well as an empath and the love between the two of you is palpable.
I cried when listening to your story. As medical professionals, we are there to help families and to let them lean on us. I feel so ashamed that you and your husband were treated this way. My heart weeps for you.
Please remember that God promises that the two of you will be reunited once again. The love of your life will be waiting.❤
Thank you so much ❤
Sadly Tammy, you're not alone in this experience, it's a very similar situation here in the UK. I lost my wife last May to stage 4 HER2 breast cancer. The lack of knowledge of cellular biochemistry by our doctors is quite unbelievable, they would not discuss any complementary therapies, "no evidence base" was the usual comment & implied that they would impact the standard care treatment. My wife didn't want me to argue and we've paid the ultimate price. My guilt is immense. Well done to you for fighting to improve matters for stage 4 patients.
Thank you, and I'm so sorry about your wife.
I wish we could do more to bring this all out into the light. I'm sure lots of people would be shocked, as I was.
It makes me so angry what you went through. I have a lot of experience in this, not specifically cancer,the hope thing. when I was born, I only weighed 2 lbs. 3 oz. and I was born with a brainstem injury. My mother had a 10th grade education at the time all they told my parents was no hope. I am now 60 years old and I’ve lived 30 years longer than the doctors ever expected. I am permanently in a wheelchair, but I am very much alive! I also am very independent. You did the right thing you’re a very smart woman.❤
God bless you @jadeblues357
May The Lord Bless You🙏✝
JADE: Your story is a beautiful story. As humans, having HOPE is the most important thing.
@@marjoriegarner5369 Know Jesus,hope and Faith
So sorry for your experiences. Glad to hear you were able to live longer than expected. May God bless you and your family.
Tammy, this showed up in my feed. Our son in law was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer August 12th 2023. He's only (42) years old. Your story is heartbreaking. My daughter has had similar situations with what you have gone through. She is tenacious about his care. She has to be. Thank you for sharing. May GOD bless you and your family. Super big hugs to you........
Thank you ❤ My thoughts are with your daughter and son-in-law.
go to my cancer story.rocks and learn how to cure just about any cancer.
I have stage 4 small cell lung cancer and I’ve taken dog wormer for four years. Look up Joe Tippens’s story.
Yes take Ivermectin too!!
@hollymajka6494 I've watched all his videos and actually was giving Dave fenbendazole and ivermectin. I believe that's why he was improving. Scans showed improvement.
The problem was he couldn't eat, so it was hard to get him to take the pills. This is why I wanted the feeding tube.
I definitely believe this stuff works. If he had not starved to death I know he could have beat this.
Every medical student should have to watch this at the end of their schooling so it's fresh in their mind when they start their career. They aren't cashiers in stores where people are seen as just a number to get through, they are dealing with potentially life and death situations, and even when they aren't people deserve to be treated with compassion, patients and their families alike. I'm nearly 59 and never got married, but if I had I'd hope that person would advocate for me as well as you did for your husband. God bless you for that.
Thank you ❤
I am so sorry for what you and your sweet husband went through. I had a horrible experience when my Dad got sick and we found out he had stomach cancer after days/weeks in the hospital. There were SO many things! It was awful. Health care scares me now!
Thank you❤ it should scare us all.
This video was recommended by CZcams. My Mother died of pancreatic cancer in December 2014. I went through most of what you went through with her care.
Down to them pushing for the DNR it was so heart breaking. The care she received was down right cruel. I can't even bare to write it here.
Just know you are not alone.
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I'm so sorry ❤ I wish we could stop this.
also could not bear the unkind words and pathetic care given my mother
She was also misdiagnosed until I called a second opinion. An ulcer was really pancrea tic cancer. Unable to face their mistake they wanted her to go on palliative care. I took her home. A doctor lived close, came every day, mostly to write scripts and monitor our progress. Knowing time was short we packed in all the laughter we could. With friends & family for dinners, movie nights and warm pj's from the microwave. I dearly hope you can also find solace with his knowing you were by his side. My ❤ goes out to you. Stay Strong
I am so sorry about what you and your Mother went through
as she suffered pancreatic cancer. I am praying for you
They love to push the DNRs which mean no treatment but morphine. It amounts to euthanasia.
I have also just been through the same and lost my amazing mum.. Who was so very busy living the fillest life imaginable. Terrible care to no care. She died at home. But had she been heard in the first place, she would still be with us. 💚
Years ago doctors used to care about people and wanted to help them, that's why they went into the medical field. Now days they couldn't care less about their patients: it's all about money, and prestige. There's no compassion or common decency anymore it is absolutely appalling. My sincere condolences for you and your family. God Bless 🙏
I agree and thank you❤
There are very few real MD's anymore. Most are D.O.'s, Chiropractors, and Nurse Practitioners. There is no healthcare anymore. You can take your chances if you like. I will take care of myself. I visit a D.O. every couple of years because there are no Medical Doctors in my town. The Medical Insurance on Doctors went so high by Obama, that most MD's retired.The profession is shoddy at best. The medical schools are lacking in knowledge and decent biological sciences. I don't trust the colleges anymore either.
@@barbara6269 A D.O is equal to an MD. Just like some dental schools give DMD degrees or DDS degrees, there are D.O and MD physicians. They are equal and have the same training. 50 years ago it was different, and D.Os primarily were family doctors or general practitioners----but now-- its not like that. They do the same residencies (specialty training) as MD students and any clinic or hospital has both. DO's are licensed in all 50 states to do everything an MD can do. Now there are way too many PA/NP seeing patients---its hard to see an actual doctor, but most of the time the PA/NP does a great job. They can write presciptions and do examinations. They have excellent training----they can do simple procedures---but surgery or complex procedures or surgery requires a D.O/M.D.
100% true!
I can identify with everything you are saying. I went thru the same devastating experience with my brother. He went into the hospital for wound care of a left heel surgery. He ended up dying from starvation and hydration. He weighed less than 70 pounds when they finally killed him.
I would love to join a support group to help me get thru this tragedy of losing my brother due to medical malpractice. Nothing has happened to the doctors, medical establishment that caused this harm to my brother.
The main support we need is for this treatment to stop. So many more are going to suffer.
I'm sorry about your brother. ❤
It is so important to talk about it. I was with both my parents when they died, no one wanted to hear the details, I needed to talk about it to move on, I finally went to a counselor, grabbed a box of kleenex, and poured it out. I hope this was cathartic for you. God bless
Rest in Peace Dave, You had 1 heck of an advocate fighting for you, In that sense you were a lucky man. I'm so sorry for your loss Tammy.
Thank you, but I was the fortunate one to have him ❤
Yes, Tammy, you were fortunate to have a wonderful man and you fought like he'll for him. You are very honorable and I applaud you for everything you did for your man up until his dying day. You are remarkable ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@fz7144 Thank you ❤️
I’m really sorry.
My condolences ✌️
This broke me. When you spoke of the lack of dignity he was subjected to...
I hope every doctor, nurse and caregiver watches this, especially the despicable ER doctor.
I believe our souls choose the time of our passing; his waited for you to come back to the room.
What a beautiful family you have.
RIP Dave 🙏
Tammy ❤ Dave
Thank you so much ❤
Doctors have to have cancer to imagine the pain.
@@susantisdell1725 In Canada they are encouraging M.A.I.D. Medical Assistence In Dying, to many patients, including for people who end up on the street ,or for young people going through depression.Wow, if some one reaches out for help, with depression ( suicidal ) they offer them M.A.I.D.!!!
I think they see so much death they become hard
Tammy you are so strong and were such a great advocate for Dave. My heart goes out to you and your family. Much love ❤
Thank you ❤
Thanks Jerry for allowing Tammy on your channel to tell her story. I hope and pray she helped someone and this has allowed her to heal a little more. Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you ❤
I totally relate to your rage…they did the same to my 36 year old daughter. “ You may as well accept that you’re dying”. No one has the right to steal your HOPE. It’s unspiritual unethical immoral and should be illegal.
(Since we are seeing so much of this I wonder if it’s not another part of population reduction since we now know hospitals and doctors are complicit)
I'm so sorry your daughter had to go through this. ❤
I'm afraid others won't realize how devastating this is until it unfortunately happens to someone they love.
We need to stop this before everyone experiences it. Because they will or love someone who will one day.
@@tammyskinnerpugh2006 thank you Tammy and may you be blessed and lifted every day for we both know our lives are forever changed by these experiences..💞
It is all about population reduction, for sure! Saying a prayer for your daughter 🙏
They jack people with morphine to OD them convenient for their hospice’s patients
Your onto something re population control medical assisted dying is on the rise and it is proposed for seniors, drug addicts and babies with “issues”‼️‼️‼️‼️ i live in Canada This is hugely disturbing especially the babies with “issues” this reminds me of Ancient Greece and babies left to die on the outskirts of cities and villages‼️
A pal was diagnosed with Stage 4 in 2016. The Doc told him to get his affairs in order. He started investigation and integrating alternative diet choices and survived well to 2021. It's 80% diet, 20% exercise and 100% spiritual fitness. Who exercises? Not many. Food in the grocery store? 97% crap Spirituality? Mention the "G O D" word and so many rush towards the exits. At 72 I have dramatically cleaned up my diet. I began exercising and continued with my spiritual fitness. I had skin cancer twice. Today I'm healthy. Yes, I'm gonna check outta here but in the meantime I want to enjoy each and every day with good health and serenity.
Good for you. It's harder to get good food than it should be. We were blessed with a wonderful planet and are poisoning every bit of it. Prayers that your check out time will be later rather than sooner, the world needs your example.
You are so right what you eat is key!!
@@sandragarcia4404 Or what you Don't eat! Fasting Is key for autophagy, which reverses diseased cells.
Carbs ARE addictive and in excess a slow poison. The human body is a wonderful thing and we can get a lot of good years if we treat it right and feed it properly.
@@oldroscoe2590One says that meat, dairy, liquid oils, and fats are the poison, others say something else. Poisons in the food and water and air are killing us too. There is so much missinformation, that we can only hope that what we do for ourselves will extend our healthy life. I try to avoid meat, dairy, liquid and solid oils. I lowered my cholesterol substantially, and hope to avoid the path of my predecessors. We can only hope and try, and do our best. Good luck to everyone who is trying.
You did the absolute best a wife could do for her sick husband to ensure that he got the best care possible and maintain his dignity. I’m so sorry for your tremendous loss.
My husband has been in the hospital 5 times this year, and my eyes have been opened. What we believe is an advanced healthcare system is not all that
I was appalled. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Thank you ❤
It was shocking to me also. Very shocking.
You may have completed only 12th grade but you showed the intelligence, compassion and assertiveness more than the doctors and nurses. Bless you. You were a strong advocate and I'm grateful you told this story. I'm appalled. I'm sure you have helped many people to learn to be advocates for their loved ones. Thank you!
Thank you❤
Amen!! Totally agree @michelle7352 Well stated❤❤
Also never leave your loved ones alone in hospital. Especially these days.😢
My heart goes out to you. I have needed to advocate for my mom. I believe what you have said about the care and interactions. I have worked in hospitals before and I have camped out at bedside with loved ones. It's upsetting, the lazy, money hungry, egotistical, insensitive, and sometimes dangerous and or careless way patients and family are treated this day in age. Everyone remember that we live in a time where respect for life is greatly compromised to say the least. 😢!
@JMJT325 Unfortunately, this is so true.
Thank you for this gut wrenching and true testimony. I have a cancer diagnosis and couldn't believe the crazy train they put you on immediately. RIP Dave. 🙏 Please pray for me as I go my own way! 🙏🙏
My thoughts are with you. Be strong! ❤
Praying you're going a holistic way 🙏
I wish the best for you. I have cancer two. When I stoped chemo three years ago, they said I'd be dead in a year. I am still alive thanls to my use of a Whole Food Plant Based Salt, Oil and Sugar free lifestyle that has reversed my cancer and other chronic diseases.
@MyLifeReframed wow that is amazing I'm so glad to hear that, what is plant based salt??
❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You're a brave woman I've been in the medical field for over a decade I've never really had an illness until recently and honestly I feel like I'm just being blown off and thrown some meds which might or might not help. Its an eye opening experience. I'm trying to get in the best shape I can ma'am thank you for sharing your story and God bless. 🙏
Thank you ❤
I heard my manager say once that a patient was taking too long to die and to call hospice. I've seen and heard so many things working as a nurse..Never stop fighting for your love ones..
I believe that.
Unfortunately this is the talk in all hospitals. Power tripping health practitioners
@eileenmcmahon2373 if you are a nurse you should know hospice doesn’t kill people. You shouldn’t perpetuate misunderstanding. If patient was taking longer than expected, she meant that she had time to benefit from care of hospice since they are the experts with terminal diagnosis. I have witnessed many patients get better and even graduate from hospice because they were tended to with expertise and condition improved. I’ve also witnessed patients have a more comfortable death with aid of hospice because they attend to all aspects of the person, mind, body & spirit. They know how to assess even when nonverbal and tend to spiritual needs, family grief and fear, physical pain, and will identify & cater to priorities of that individual patient. Most floor nurses don’t have that kind of time and expertise to devote and hospice SHOULD be called. It is a disservice to not introduce hospice to a terminally ill patient whether it’s 2 days or 6 months life expectancy. A patient has the right to refuse but most want the expert care & attention unless they’ve been fed negative myths as you are doing by suggesting they hasten death. Absolutely not true.
I'm so sorry you all went through all of that. ❤ Your dog could feel your sad and angry emotions. Please give your dog a big hug. Your dog was listening and stayed close by your feet and was concerned for you. Your dog sure does love you ❤❤
It's our Bandit. We've had him for 15 years. He misses Dave. We all do.
Thank you ❤
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@tammyskinnerpugh2066 Love you, Tammy ❤you are wonderful, big hugs 🫂
remind me song Tammy Wynnete 🎵 " Stand By Your Man "
A friend took former husband in while struggling with cancer and believed his spirit passed into the dog Could not be so if he was baptized properly. I do not believe 'once baptized always baptized' and encourage people to baptize 'again' if they feel the need even if religion discourages doing so. It is a new beginning, so 're' baptized. Baby 'baptisms' aren't because baptize means under water which does not occur and it violates free will doctrine. 10 years or older is old enough to exercise free will which is actually 12 yrs the way God counts years. Jesus was 12 when he began his teachings when he taught the physicians at 12 yrs during feast of weeks after Passover which strongly supports he was born during Passover (week)! Feast of weeks aka feast of unleavened bread which we could view as taking Holy Communion weekly until his return since he gave Holy Communion was given to us right after his Passover dinner with disciples. He teaches in the temple (our brain) every day like he did before being comurdered (in hearts if Jews) and by employment requirement by Romans. Jews were Antichrist spirit while Romans (including Pontius Pilate) were not 'into it' and we are judged by our hearts. Forgive them for what they do was about forgiving the Romans, not the antichrist (Jews) who believed killing him right before the family pascal lamb was sacrificed was sacrificed for their personal/family sins before they bore God's wrath Surprise Surprise Surprise when they saw that system was done when saw Holy of Holies exposed to the public right after killing Messiah. They knew he was/is the Messiah. Romans really didn't grasp what was really happening and yet God manifested in them (fulfilling prophesies supernaturally) like God did with sending a woman who anointed Messiah into his priesthood as antichrist temple leaders were near during another Passover dinner involvung them. Can't do it twice and it was done by her. They denounced her reputation to undermine what was done. It was made clear a 'prostitute' was more honorable than them.
Oh my, I was diagnosed with cervical spondylosis years ago. I've had chronic pain for decades! The pain shot down my left arm from my neck, and my fingers were tingly, almost numb. Had to check with a neurologist to see if I had nerve damage. No damage.
And now being a Carnivore that pain is almost 100% gone.
Really?
How can carnivore diet can help?
So sorry for all you and your husband went through…..our medical system is so bad. Thank you for your posting which will help so many people. 💓🌹💓
Thank you ❤
Thank you for letting me know the importance of questioning the doctors and nurses.
Thank you ❤
I’m so angry at the way she was treated by that ER doctor. They take an oath to save lives. She’s better than me because I’d be in jail for hitting her or I’d have made a scene asking to speak to the Medical Director immediately. I’m so sorry for your loss.
My brother 62 died of cancer too 12 yrs ago. 🎉Listening to your story I remember the things my brother went through. The tumors, the morphine, the blister on his tale bone. He only lasted a month after he had surgery to remove a tumor. You are a brave woman and your story is inspiring. I’m sure is going to help others to cope. Thank you for sharing your story!
I hope so. Thank you ❤
It appears that Eating is a big part of therapy. Many people have used vegan recipes to make changes and lifestyle choices is a big
issue. I think more emphasis should be placed on food products and food choices. Fruits and vegetables are key products to use and not too expensive.
@lilpetec6803 I definitely agree. That's why the PEG tube was so important. Since he couldn't eat, it was impossible to give his body what it needed. In May, when he was first diagnosed, he was already malnourished. The doctors knew this, but because he was "dying," no one cared if he was starving to death.
It got my dad at 72
I myself have been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. At the moment, I'm not in any pain. I haven't lost weight. I'm still able to function and take care of myself. This video has convinced me to fight for my own health, and not be so quick to commit myself into the hands of others, especially to those of the conventional medical community. Most of us would like to think that what Tammy and her beloved husband Dave experienced is an isolated case. But the reality is that this pathetic treatment is a lot more common than we realize. It's just not given the exposure as it has been in this video. It's pretty much swept under the rug just like the lies and inconsistencies of all the other institutions in human society, albeit political, commercial or even religious.
That's the scary part. It is very common.
I'm so glad you are not going to let them sign you off. I think the first mistake we make is letting them convince us there is no hope.
Hugs to you ❤
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Yes please fight and say the prayer by Christ stripes I am healed have to faith believe he's already healed you replace all negative thoughts and people with good ones. He will heal you believe with all your heart you'll be fine you can go it don't pay attention to any bad negative things any one says
God bless
You got this!
Thank you for your words of caution. Your story will help many people who heed your advice. I've learned from my own experience, people do need a strong advocate when they enter the medical system.
Sorry for your loss. Take care.
Thank you ❤
I have a friend who’s husband, was diagnosed with stage four Colon cancer, he went to MD Anderson in Houston . The dr told him as soon as he got there, don’t worry we are gonna beat this. And they did. They were very aggressive treating the cancer. They were cheerful and encouraging. They kept his spirits up. He’s been free of cancer about 7 years, very healthy and happy today. I am so sorry for your terrible loss. And I can tell from the photos you lost a lot. Sounds to me like what they did to both of you is criminal. Such a tragedy. God bless you.
Thank you ❤
I will never stop missing him.
I agree with you, Joyce! I'm being treated for colon cancer through doctors at a Christian hospital. I am my own advocate for now. I have had only one time when I had to stand up to my doctor. He immediately apologized for not listening to exactly what I was telling him. From that point on, he'd always stop what he was doing and make eye contact with me. I told him that I am the only one who knows how my body responds to certain things (for instance, I can only take iron as food, because I immediately get explosive diarrhea from supplements) and I would NOT let them give me an IV infusion. He said the only other alternative was a blood transfusion. It brought my hemoglobin up immediately with no side effects. He would always pat my shoulder or my foot before he left my room after our "altercation". 🙂
He moved from Texas to NYC and I now have another oncologist. She and all the other doctors smile and agree with me when I tell them they might not be able to save my life, but I'm believing that God can. One even said he's seen miracles in his practice and to keep believing and fighting!
This is my battle cry:
But when Jesus heard this, He said, “This sickness is not to end in death, but for the glory of God, so that the Son of God may be glorified by it.”
John 11:4
@@brendahughes3277Amen!!!🙏🏽
You are talking about time when there was no "gene therapy" jab. That jab destroys the immune system.
MD Anderson is the hospital that treated me. They saved me, and are really good at what they do. They're not the #1 cancer hospital for nothing. I was lucky to get in and will always be grateful. That place is run like a well oiled machine.
Mr. Skinner, for several years now I have watched your channel but would have never guessed that the most compelling and heart wrenching story would be this personal tragedy from your own family. This was hard to get through but I thank you for sharing. God bless you and your courageous daughter.
Jerry I am in tears xx
Thank you ❤
Such a sad story! It didn't have to be this way! The healthcare system in America is awful. I hear it time and time again. Tammy was a brave advocate for her husband, her love. God Bless her and give her peace.
@@DefundTheMasons reminds me of the story Take Care of Maya!! Then her mother finally took her own life. I'm getting to be mid 50's and I'm terrified if something happens. I don't trust any of them!! I'm sorry if you've had a bad experience. My hope that if these stories continue that people can speak up and advocate for themselves or their loved ones to these Dr's and nurses. File complaints or whatever it takes. NO ONE deserves to be treated like they don't matter. I loved Tammy's spirit and what she had to go through was just wrong on so many levels. And then to watch them take Dave's dignity!! I would have lost it.
Almost 20 years ago. My husband was given 10-15 years to live. It destroyed me. Having that time limit. We were young. We had a baby. It was a shadow always. 20 years later. We are no longer together. He is a picture of health. That prognosis destroyed our relationship in ways. It was wrong all along.
Thanks so much for sharing your story. ❤❤❤❤
I’ve often thought of the words that doctor said that day.
Was it necessary? No. I wish he hadn’t.
Hope is powerful. You only need a little. ❤
Bless you Tammy and your family. I was so moved by this and I watched through to the end. I could feel the anger and outrage but also the kind of love you have for Dave.🤗🤗
I loved him a great deal. ❤
Bless you my dear. 🙏🙏🙏 My hubby was killed by the hospital protocol for Covid two years ago. I survived by my daughter giving me the ivermectin that wasn’t supposed to work. He was afraid and chose to go to hospital. I never saw him the next two weeks until he passed. I always believed the remdesivir the hospital insisted on using shut down his kidneys. Prayers, Ann
I'm so sorry. It would be devastating not to be able to be there.
I believe the remdesivir killed my dad as well. He was 68 & in excellent health when he got covid. He went to the hospital & it was downhill from there. We weren’t allowed to be there with him until after he passed.
I personally know two people who were killed by Remedisivar and there were were many who were! It is evil about the Plandemic!
So sorry
My brother went down after they gave him the same thing to " help" him
Dr. John Campbell, out of the UK or Dr. Drew Pinsky, with Kelly Victory, have great YT channels explaining these aggressive cancers. Deepest condolences to you and your family.
From the vaccine
@@dct1238These aggressive cancers were around before the vaccine!
@dct1238 Dr Drew has a doctor on his CZcams channel that talks about there's been higher Cancer rates especially on young children from the vaccine...
It's so painful to admit but cancer has accelerated among vaccinated people
Merogenomics( CZcams ) has discussed in depth scientific papers on the possible mechanisms. Vejon Health ( CZcams) also has discussions about research articles on these topics.
You were his warrior! My heartfelt condolences to you for your loss Tammy. Thank you for laying your whole heart out to help complete strangers. I’m one of those you helped and you have my gratitude. Prayers for your peace and healing.
Thank you very much ❤
God bless you! I'm a retired RN, and I've seen so much like this. I think sometimes, because this is such a corrupt industry, they want to get one patient out the door in order to make room for the next. The docs do get a Christmas bonus based on how much $$$ they brought into the facility that year. Admissions = $$$. I have stage IV cancer myself, but I have 2 homeopaths and a naturopath in addition to "doctors." My daughter just went through a liver transplant, and that was a similar nightmare to what you had, but so far with a better ending. It's pretty scary, and I don't know how we'd have managed had I not had years of experience on the inside. I pray you'll feel comforted.
Thank you ❤
You’re such an advocate for your husband Dave!!
I’ve been in medical for a long time, now I’m on the patient side-diagnosed with breast cancer November 2022. My oncologist 1st words were “we’ll make you comfortable “, I asked Onco if they had already given up on me?
It’s been a horrible ordeal with the medical field!
My husband and have to question everything that we hear ! We don’t think they know what to do!!
It’s very heartbreaking that I protected the medical my whole career. and I didn’t believe when I started hearing that the medical system is broken, however IT IS BROKEN!!
Take care of your health, be an advocate for your health!!
Thank you ❤
I think it's more than broken. When a large number of people are dying too soon because they can't help, that's something everyone should be talking about.
It could happen to any of them, at any time. Or worse, someone they love more than anything.
@saraanderson1849
I’m sorry to hear if your diagnosis! I just find out a week ago I have beat cancer also. Have you heard of Chris Wark? He was able to heal his cancer without chemo & radiation I believe through radical dietary changes to WFPB /juicing and giant salad every day!! I’m looking into this too as I don’t want traditional treatments with pumping poison into my body!! Have you looked into these options???
Breast cancer I mean. Auto correct changed some of my words 🙄
Exactly same here. Nursing for 32 years. Can't stand it now. They have about killed me as a patient now. Over a year ago I had a 44 hr vomiting soell o sleep. In ER for 26 hrs. Till got me a room & a white count of almost 29 thousand shouldn't be above 10 or 11 thousand. Massive ivs in me- dehydration led to my kidneys shutting down & no one knew it? So all the ivs filled my lungs full of fluid. Was in a room upstairs less than 24 hrs & went into a code blue! Couldn't breath! I almost died that night. Put in oxygen- massive amounts of iv push Lasix to pee it all out. Shots every 12 hrs in my stomach for clotting. Lots of viens & arteries In lungs. Ect. Anyways a nightmare & a near death experience.
@saraanderson1849 look up Dr Thomas Seyfried here on CZcams. He has done a lot of research on the metabolic aspect of cancer. In a nutshell cutting all sugar from your diet. You can make your own decision of course, but I hope you will at least listen to what he has to say.
I have no one to advocate.
I’m truly alone in this life.
You showed me why having one is sooo important.
It saddens me to know you went through what you went through. I’m soo sorry but proud of you. Dave must have been the best man God ever gave us. The way you taught for him shows me this.
May you never have to suffer in this way or any way for eternity.
I love you, my sister in Christ!
Thank you❤
You have to fight for yourself. Don't give up!
If you have the finances, you can pay for a private health advocate. They have free hospital advocates possibly but I don't think they are as good as the private ones.
I am an RN . Planning to do this privately .
@@harmonyhelps1714 ..that's good. I would too, but I don't believe in the medical philosophy of masking symptoms, as opposed to treating root causes. So basically it would not work out for me to be the mediator between the doctor and patient because I would not agree with the doctors at all.
Tammy, I’m so sorry for your terrible experiences and significant loss of Dave! I loved the photos and videos of Dave, you & family. What a handsome, caring & happy man who was also blessed with an amazing wife. What a team!
Thank you for the education! It has already helped me and I’ll pass on the “Team Tammy & Dave” wisdom to others and will visualize both of you smiling in those videos every time I use it! Much love & prayers for your healing.
This means so much to me, to us. Thank you❤
Yep… you got caught up in what I call the “medical merry-go-round!” Kudos to you for questioning EVERYTHING! My Mom made it to 95(retired RN) she got caught up in that the last year of her life. Still had all her witt’s about her! She finally told them NO! Try and stay healthy-stay off drugs, because those have so many other side effects that it causes something else that the Dr.’s try to treat with another drug- then the “merry-go-round” starts! God bless!
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I’m literally seconds into this video and I can say that doctors have it wrong, my best friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer in 2011, she lived had an amazing life and made incredible memories until 2022.
I realise that may not be a big deal to most but her friends and family had all those precious days, months and years. Her doctor was incredible and he asked her if she wanted to live, her last call was to me because she hadn’t told her husband or children that she had cancer, and she asked me to say goodbye for her.
It was the first time in my life I said no…I will not be the person that tells them you’ve died or dying and I will not give up on you.
She asked for a new doctor within a few hours and he said, I can’t cure you but I can give you a quality of life and years to spend with your family.
Never give up, not on your family, friends or yourself.
She skied the alps, travelled Europe, ate fantastic food and lived…I loved her so much and never regret saying no I will not give up on you 💔
You were a wonderful friend ❤
This is so sad and so typical of
a broken antiquated system of so called “doctors & a broken healthcare system that “ that disregards patients choices ! They are not thinking about a patient’s life they are thinking about themselves& their egos! They don’t care they just make ludicrous decisions.They’re Disgusting!You fought for Dave and Your instincts were correct, not Theirs! I understand your frustration,
No one should have be Treated this way. I’m so sorry 😢
Patients need to have the right to choose their own medical treatment!
A doctor has no right to ask if a person WANTS to live. It is his job to keep the patient ALIVE and to do NO harm. I am also a nurse and I know that many people have lost respect for life. A doctor is NOT God and should remember that every day of his or her life.
اذا اردت ان تقدم له هدية ف اني ادعوك الى البحث عن قصص شفاء شيقة و ستجد عليها العديد من قصص الشفاء من السرطان و امراض اخرى بالنظام الغذائي و اشياء اخرى ....
Sir, nice to see the man behind the voice. You have my hopes and prayers.🙏
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THANK YOU for doing this video. I lived something eerily similar. I feel like the entire Western Med institution has grown cold, callous and cancer is a $ maker. If you do not do everything they say, they try to override you AND the patient and act like they have rights over your body. You deserve so much credit for putting up a great fight! I'm so proud of you. I will be praying for you. I pray I never have to deal with this w my husband. I had to deal with this similar situation with my mother. I ended up calling a meeting w the CEO of the hospital and patient affairs and all the hospitalists and told them, if they ever treated my mother like they have been again, they will each be sued individually and as a group and the hospital. Isn't it a sin we have to fight the very ppl who are SUPPOSED to help us? 😡 So sorry for your loss and dreadful journey. God bless you.
Thank you ❤
We should definitely not have to fight those we go to for help.
Such a beautiful gallery of your memories that you so generously shared here with us...thank you, Tammy. I am so very sorry for your tragic loss. You tried very hard and I'm certain that your husband also fought his best to stay here with you. Now my best to you. Prayers for your comfort and peace. ❤
Thank you❤
He did fight hard.
Thank you Jerry, your daughter was so brave. I hope I would have someone like her when I pass. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yes! ❤
So very sorry for your loss Tammy. I watched half your video before my wife got home then started it over and watched it all over with my wife. I cant imagine the pain you and your family have been through. Our ❤ hurts for you All. The end was a tearful but a great dedication to Dave. Much, much too early leave in life's end. Dave and you fought, so sad the health care system didn't. You are right, there's a lot of good nurses and some willing to fight for their patients even when the doctors refuse to. God Bless your family Miss Tammy. You all need time to grieve. Until then we will wait for you to get back to your regular videos. God Speed to your Beloved Dave.
@deanbarr5740 Thank you. That means alot to me ❤
Thank you❤
So very sorry. ❤️🙏No words. God Bless You and your family.
Please please please, realize that you did not make any mistakes! You did everything you could have done. God bless you!
You are fighting "the system". This is the result of changes made possible through Obamacare.
I'm so sorry for all you both went through. I am sorry for your loss.
You are an amazing woman. I am from Australia and watched your video the whole way through. We need more brave people like you to advocate for loved ones and question the decisions made by the medical establishment which are often made with closed minds, convenience and financial gain. I had to advocate for both my parents when they were elderly. Much love to you and your family ❤❤
Thank you very much ❤
Thank you, Tammy, for your courage. Your Dave sounded like a wonderful man. I think all your listeners would agree that having watched your video, we all learned some very helpful medical medical tips . I’ll remember the part about the feeding tube and always having someone present in the hospital room. Thank you for using your grief to do good for others.
Thank you ❤
I'm sorry you and your husband had to go through this! I'm a Nurse and this is sickening! I'm glad you filed the complaint, we need to do everything we can to hold Medical professionals accountable.
We definitely do! It will take awareness for people to see what goes on hopefully before they have to experience it first hand.
Thank you❤
I LOVE this lady, you're absolutely BRILLIANT! What a fantastic and tireless advocate you are! I'm literally amazed at how you handled this, just brilliant. You did more than EVERYTHING, much much more.
Thank you for the thumbs up.😊
I totally agree with you Donna.
Please if you have a time connect with me. I live in pocatello idaho and a landline.
My husband suffered from Parkinson's disease and he had congestive heart disease when I was forced to put him in the nursing home the head nurse told me go home don't be bothered with him we'll take care of him you just go live your life who says crap like that? We were married 46 years he was the love of my life you spoiled me rotten and like you I believe doctors and nurses didn't help him at all. He fell out of bed which is a long ways from the floor and the nurse that was in charge that night told the little nurse will let this go and have that other people that are coming in handle him she had that little Aid help her get him in bed in the end quick because she says I heard him cry out in pain and I didn't want to do what we were doing and what happened was he broke his hip he broke it so bad the doctor that takes care of pain had to come off the golf course and put a paintball on him so that he could try and help him ease . The head nurse told me I couldn't stay they kicked me out every night so yes I feel your pain I feel it deep down in my soul. Then I had a doctor tell me that I had a tumor in my kidney and that was a merry-go-round of doctors in malpractice but I couldn't find an attorney that would take any of it. So yes I feel the hurt that you have 46 years of marriage just doesn't turn off overnight or when somebody tells you to go home I am dying now from all the BS that doctors did to me so yes I feel all your pain and I understand what it's like to deal with doctors nurses nursing homes specialist different people who all say you can't change anything you can't do anything for him just go home and live your life. Anyway I don't even know where you are but my name is Carla and I'm 76 years old and I still miss and love the man that I lost
@@carlarknight6786 I'm so sorry for all you and your husband went through. It's heartbreaking.
I'm in Mississippi. ❤️
Tammy, may God heal your pain and sorrow for the loss of your dear husband Dave. May his soul rest in Peace. Thank you for sharing this video. Hugs and blessings.
Thank you ❤
I am so sorry for your loss. You were a wonderful warrior for your husband. Thank you for sharing your story and the beautiful pictures. May God bless you and carry you through this time.
Thank you ❤
I know several people with stage 4 cancer breast CA (went to the bone) that did o.k. as long as they refused the chemo. They are alive and thriving after more than ten years. You have compelling story of bravery and guts.
Thank you❤
I am so sorry, Tammy. I work at a medical university, which is attached to a medical facility and several hospitals. Dave's story and precious life has made a huge impact on me. Our medical facility thankfully is compassionate and patients make the decisions once they have been properly educated. Our medical providers support those decisions and do everything they can to make the patient comfortable and in the know about what's going on. In addition, we have extremely strict rules about what medical staff comes into the room and how they interact with a patient. We would NEVER ever be allowed to say a single word to a patient or their family without properly introducing ourselves. We are not allowed to even touch a patient until we explain what we are going to do and why. All of this happens because we had great leadership that implemented that. There are still some great facilities out there. I am so sorry you dealt with facilities that don't properly educate themselves, the medical providers and the staff. Dave was so blessed to be married to such a beautiful caring woman. I'm so glad you took the time to share Dave's story with us. I hope a lot of medical providers see it and makes them think a lot more in the future about how they interact with patients and their families. God watch over you as you grieve. I pray you find peace, strength and hope during this very difficult time. Rest in peace, Dave.
Thank you so much for saying this. I wish we had been at "your" place. ❤
Where is it located and what is your facility called?
Sounds like Mayo Clinic?
UCLA- We are in Los Angeles. We follow a protocol called CICARE. CICARE is an acronym we follow with every patient.@@mymuse111
No, UCLA in Los Angeles We follow a protocol called CICARE. CICARE is an acronym we follow with every patient. @@sheilam8748
Your story broke my heart. I am so sorry for the loss of your wonderful husband Dave. You were His warrior woman for sure...I know he was grateful to have you by his side, fighting for him.
Thank you for telling your story. God Bless You Tammy ❤
Thank you very much ❤
Thank you for making this heart rending video, one of the most powerful I have ever seen. I live in England and things are no better here, I’ve witnessed terrible treatment of relatives. It should absolutely be compulsory that all doctors and nurses watch this video, I hope at least some of them have. Sending sincere condolences to you and your family.
This is the most traumatic, horrifying story. 🫢🤯🥺Just listening to this is soooo stressful & upsetting. I am so sorry that both you and Dave went through this. God bless y’all and may peace be with you. 🙏🏻❤️
Thank you❤
Tammy, Mr. Jerry, so so sorry for your loss of your husband/ son-in-law. Tammy, I just want to say thank you for sharing. Your love in warning us is so touching. If all humans had such care for one another, this world would be like heaven. I've been many years subscriber to this channel. I want you to know I will never forget you, your husband, and your Daddy. May you be kept in the arms of Jesus thru the pain you are all feeling right now.
Thank you❤
This had me in tears. Our government and medical system is so jacked up! I'm glad your husband had you
I'm glad I had him ❤
Tammy I’m so sorry for your loss. I’ve learned a lot from your video. My husband and I fought hard to keep him alive after getting Covid Pneumonia with blood in his lungs. We managed to find the right Frontline doctor who got us everything we needed. We knew being hospitalized and ventilated would kill him. I almost lost him but not hospitalizing him saved his life. He was well in 17 days. Tons of meds, oxygen and constant walks. My prayers go out to you and your family
Thank you ❤
What meds ?
My heart is heavy but I am incredibly proud of your tenacity. We should all have someone who advocates on our behalf against the medical predators. Thank you for sharing your experience. It has made me look deeper into my own inner circle and get my “affairs” in order, just in case. 💛
Thank you❤
“ Butchered by Healthcare” by Dr. Robert Yoho explains everything about how the medical industry works. Definitely an eye opening book!
Thank you for reminding us there is hope and no Doctor has any right to determine one's FATE. You are very brave to Tell this amazing story.
At the same time, knowing you are giving HOPE to all Bless you and your family
Thank you very much. ❤
Tammy, thank you for sharing such a painful story. You are a corageous woman, and I could hear your love for your husband in eveey word you spoke. This should be required viewing for every doctor and nurse in the land.
I’ve always heard “where there’s life, there’s hope”! Good for you fighting for your husband! I would’ve reacted the same way!
Thank you ❤
💐 My sincere condolences to your whole family. R.I.P. Dave. This is absolutely heartbreaking Tammy. You are incredible!! The Strength & Grace you exhibited is beyond words. Thankyou so much for your courage and kind wishes for others. You are truly an inspiration of LOVE DEDICATION & HOPE. you left no stone unturned my dear. 🙏💖✨Thankyou Jerry. What an amazing family you have. You must be so proud of Tammy and everyone for that matter. Hearts of Gold!!!💐💐
You are so kind. Thank you ❤
Absolutely! I agree. What a brave and amazing family for sharing truth. Everyone needs to know how the healthcare system is here!!
@@tammyskinnerpugh2006 💞💐
@@ChasingRainbows67 💖✨
@@tammyskinnerpugh2006 Thankyou! Bless you
I stumbled across this video today and watched all of it. I am so very sorry for the loss of your husband and all that he/you went thru. He seemed like such a fighter from what you said and I know he is watching over you and your family everyday. Prayers for strength and peace for your family 🙏
Thank you ❤
First, thank you for doing this video. You are a strong person & I admire your tenacity. I need to have my daughter watch this so that if something like this happens to me, she’ll know what to watch out for. Sending love from San Diego, CA.
We need miracles in the medical community. It became more of a business to some rather an actual benefit to all. We pray for all of us.
So very sorry about what happened to Dave, our Healthcare system is severely broken and I am a victim of the incompetence of it. Again so very sorry about your loss..
Thank you❤
#nationalcitizensinquiry
am also a nurse and I am so shocked at the nursing profession! why in the world is it going like this? they gave my husband morphine to hurry up the dying process! they gave it often and pushed it up to every half hour! that is Hospice for you!
I agree. I think there is alot people don't know about hospice.
I have dealt with hospice a few times and I have had nothing but positive experiences with them. Most recently, for my Mother. They left it up to us to gauge her pain and meds, after educating us on the particulars.
Never once did I get the feeling that they wanted her to die. They were crucial in supporting us emotionally and educating us on what was happening.
I'm so sorry your experiences were awful; that is not the norm.
He was not in pain at all so what were they keeping comfortable???
This happened to my Dad. He was 60 yrs old. And this happened to my 53 yr old Brother but thank God he survived. My Nephew and I fought hard everyday for them to give my Brother a feeding tube and antibiotics
We should not have to fight for this. This is wrong.
I'm so sorry for your loss and battle endured. I married into a family with multiple doctors in Memphis. My husband and I went to some of the same doctors for similar issues. I never changed my name and I didn't tell the medical staff I was in the family. There's a HUGE difference in the treatment afforded to some as opposed to others. The industry is rampant with bad actors.
I guess we got the bad ones.
It is true that when they know you personally or a family member you get treated much better
One of the most intense heartfelt self directed interviews I can remember. I want you on my team. What a leader you are. And you are angry. You will have to work thru this. I think your video is a wonderful testimony of love. Keep this in your heart. ✝️
Thank you ❤
I'm angry, shattered, disappointed, bitter, and heartbroken. This should never have happened like it did. He did not deserve to be treated that way. No one does.
Hi Tammy , I bet hands down your name was flagged every time You guys encountered any medical professionals they read charts and come in defensive forgetting about other manners How dare you question them !
I been thro all of this before , at age 47 when I lost my husband ..I was so tried of fighting and stayed T the hospital no one told me either I could stY T the Hospital in a room honestly I think the doctors ND nurses where using that room for themselves...I never felt so alone venerable ND scared and scared for my husband. My poor poor husband he died in not a very good way ..I am crying listening to your experience. I CAN RELATE SO MUCH
..God bless you I know you have gone through medical trauma,and gaslighting and no one took their time to explain or just show an once of compassion
.you are an Angel and your husband was so fortunate ..both you are fortunate to have each other !
Bless you and stay strong you could help so many on the same journey ..
.I am helping ...I meN you are helping others by telling your story ...but you need to be standing at besides.
ONe thing is for sure We both know now, whT people go through its not all rInbows and wonderful experinces unless of course you are medicL staff or have lots of $$$
Don't no- one come for me.. I know and so does Tammy and many others....
Quick story A huge nurse night time staff ..said "OH no not SchumKer again" her sighing and yawning!" we are gonna be in for along night" with disgust in her voice ..I was so shocked I honestly was mortified and speechless ..She didn't realize I was coming around the corner....So many many heartbreaking instances I'm crying typing this .at the time of my husband's death I was 47 he was /52 I miss him so much I'm now 64 Stay strong God bless! AlwYs the Notes whenever your loved one is in hospital that wY you keep track of who is who and what they all think or have decided whT course of action is next or nessary...my husband had bedsores too they never repositioned him ...heartbreaking and so Calais...
You did an amazing job advocating and taking care of Dave!!
Thank you ❤
So deeply sorry for the loss of your sweet husband. Deeply saddened of the lack of care & urgency on the part of the medical field. That is unforgivable what y’all went through. May he be at peace forever. Also May God bless you & yours. 🙏🏻💔
Thank you very much ❤
I am so sorry you and your husband went through this.
If ever I get cancer, I will never have chemo or radiation.
I agree.
I know you say that now, but let's see when/if you get it. This is also coming from someone who said the same thing.
I'm also getting radiation this next week... they don't leave you with much choice until you go through the "standard" of care.
I have stage 4, was mis diagnosed. The only doctors I have found helpful is the hospice and pain doctors. They are helping keep me alive with painkillers and other drugs while I treat myself. I’m in Scotland. Thanks for sharing your story. Lots of love ❤️
Please look up "food to heal body and starve cancer Dr William Li " on you tube. One of the comments here also mentions a 30 year old healed by going on dairy free, limited sugar and tons of carrot diet plus veggies. Please do try
Try fenbendazole and ivermectin (animal dewormer drugs) for C. I take ivermectin about a 1/2 inch piece of green apple flavor horse dewormer gel just to keep me in the up and up.
I've read that fenbendazole is really good for C.
Do some research and if you think it's worth a shot for you go for it. I am a 145 pound woman and take an amount of the apple flavored gel from the tube to treat 250 pounds of horse from what the package says.
Just sharing my information.
I take it on a mostly empty stomach at bedtime.
Lost both my brothers February 1 and 4th this year to stage 4 cancer just 5 months after they found out. My heart breaks for your family and my deepest condolences to your family.
My deepest condolences to you as well. ❤
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I’m so sorry you lost both your brothers.❤🙏🏼
Sorry for the loss of your loving brothers, how tragic. By any chance we’re they identical twins?
God bless and heal your family during this incredibly difficult time 🙏🏽
Condolences to you and the family. Thank you for sharing. I know it was difficult. He was lucky to have such a loving wife. Dave went too soon. Lovely memorial.
Thank you ❤
He was a wonderful man who will never be forgotten.