The ultimate guide to Flagstone Patio building!

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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
  • Here is our process when it comes to installing a flagstone patio.
    Step 1: Determine height, size and shape of desired patio.
    Step 2: Mark out area approximately 1 foot larger than desired patio.
    Step 3: Remove grass and soil as needed to reach height of subgrade.
    Step 4: Install geotextile fabric as needed.
    Step 5: Install sub-base gravel is applicable.
    Step 6: Install base gravel.
    Step 7: Install bedding gravel.
    Step 8: Install flagstone, starting with largest pieces.
    Step 9: Fit smaller flagstone in between stones, cut and trim as necessary.
    Step 10: Clean patio and install joint sand or other material.
    Step 11: Clean the work area, pat yourself on the back take a picture.
    Step 12: Grab some family and friend to enjoy your new flagstone patio.
    0:00 Introduction to Flagstone Patio
    0:28 The Subgrade
    3:10 Stone Subbase Layer
    4:14 Geotextile Fabric
    6:45 Compacting
    7:01 Stone Base Layer
    10:05 Stone Bedding Layer
    12:24 Laying Flagstone
    19:08 Sand
    19:39 Tapping
    19:57 Blow Clean and Wet Down
    20:22 Review and Conclusion
    Learn more about our Nara Stone System here:
    www.sierralandscapemanagement...

Komentáře • 114

  • @llabdem
    @llabdem Před rokem +6

    I’ve wondered if screeding the bedding layer is worth doing or not. I’ve screeded it before like we do with pavers, but the stone varies in thickness so much we still have to pull out material or add more for most of the stones to keep them from being “tippy or trippy.” Cutting isn’t so bad, it’s the leveling and stabilizing part that tests my patience the most. You guys are one of the few out there that do dry laid flagstone right! There’s not many of us left.

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem +2

      Over the years several people have asked the question. The screeding process takes maybe 20 minutes. Since we choose our material to have no more than 1/4" variation in thickness the end result is no more than a few handfuls plus or minus for each stone which is still way faster than doing each stone independently. Same with the fact that it gets displaced from walking on it. It never relocated so a simple smooth of a hand fixes that. In the Guide video the stones were gauged so the variation was no more than 1/8" so it was almost a drag and drop scenario.

    • @TH3_D3ADLY_DILF.
      @TH3_D3ADLY_DILF. Před rokem +2

      after putting the stone base in and leveling it off
      I usually use a couple sections of pvc pipe spread out in 6 - 8 ft intervals and than start laying my sand in 4” lifts, screeding it out to the top of the pipes to keep my level, tamp it and repeat the process until you get to the top layer. On the very last layer I don’t tamp just screed that way when you lay your stones you can tap them down to the proper height with a rubber mallet to get an even finished surface. After everything is said and done I use my poly sand and sweep it in between all my joints and lightly spray it with a garden hose on the shower setting than let it dry for a day. Screeding vs. not screeding makes a huge difference trust me it makes for A LOT less stones having to be adjusted, picked up and re set in my opinion not to mention it saves your back a lot of unnecessary pain lol

  • @bryanmilne
    @bryanmilne Před rokem +4

    OMG! Finally a no nonsense video that gets straight to it and provides just the basic information concisely and quickly! Thank you! Subscribed!

  • @bryanmilne
    @bryanmilne Před rokem +3

    @18:29 what is this tool? Is it chipping the edges so there is a slight chamfer to make a more natural edge? I used to do that with a 3 pound hammer and chisel and it took forever... I'd love to understand what tool he is using and more about it. Looks good and amazing how fast it comes together, but honestly for my aesthetic I prefer all natural pieces without any (or as few as possible) sawcuts, but that takes way way more time and way more pieces of stone to choose from.

  • @kevinlombardy2388
    @kevinlombardy2388 Před 14 dny

    Fantastic video and tutorial. Definitely learned a lot from this!

  • @olivierbrisson454
    @olivierbrisson454 Před měsícem +3

    What is the name of the tool that you’re using at 18:30 ? To redefine the edges.

  • @StitcheryXPress
    @StitcheryXPress Před 8 měsíci

    100% confidence in this company! Intelligent design, masterfully carried out project!

  • @flip2flop
    @flip2flop Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent work!! Its so nice to see that some people still do stone the right way and take pride in their work.loves the video, amazing job!!

  • @porterandmjyoung4599
    @porterandmjyoung4599 Před 3 měsíci +1

    excellent and complete how to video. as a builder/investor at times, have had good crews and yours seems as good as they come. taking bids at the moment on similar project and wish you were in our current market area.

  • @vikingsfan9002
    @vikingsfan9002 Před 11 měsíci

    Way to go. Thanks for sharing! Wow!

  • @jessenunez-hl1dt
    @jessenunez-hl1dt Před rokem +1

    Nice work. Great video thanks for the step by step.

  • @ginleonard66
    @ginleonard66 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic organization of information. You hit all of the marks, and your work is amazing. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

  • @rickvanderheide2732
    @rickvanderheide2732 Před měsícem +1

    great video what was the tool you used for roughing up the edges Thank you

  • @carlosnovoajr.1637
    @carlosnovoajr.1637 Před 2 lety +4

    Very well done! loved the step by step process and recap at the end!

  • @tedtolentino8946
    @tedtolentino8946 Před rokem +2

    Beautiful build. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Aninjasfart
    @Aninjasfart Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic video, professional & very informative. Thank you!!

  • @hiddensprings4195
    @hiddensprings4195 Před rokem

    Great job, I got some good ideas

  • @shoadurant9469
    @shoadurant9469 Před rokem

    Thank you man

  • @georgemaxted2957
    @georgemaxted2957 Před 2 lety +2

    Very informative, high quality workman ship 👏

  • @almaandres608
    @almaandres608 Před 2 lety +3

    Beautiful,I’m very impressed. I didn’t realize how much work you put into this.

  • @sheetmetalwork
    @sheetmetalwork Před rokem +1

    Well done! I watched every second.

  • @formdog9861
    @formdog9861 Před rokem

    just subbed great job learned a lot from this very detailed work and explanation of it thank you

  • @TreeNinja1
    @TreeNinja1 Před rokem +1

    This is awesome workmanship!!! Really awesome skills. !!!

  • @laurijorgenson6683
    @laurijorgenson6683 Před 9 měsíci

    Wow, you guys do gorgeous work! Loved the details you provided and your presentation of the video. I wish you were near me. I would hire you in a heartbeat. Thanks for educating us on what is the proper way to have the job done or how we should do it if we are DIYer’s. I appreciate it.

  • @ArturoMontor-dz5nf
    @ArturoMontor-dz5nf Před 4 měsíci

    Nice video boss man thanks because your video 📹 is step be step nice be safe

  • @markrogers2593
    @markrogers2593 Před rokem

    Very nice job. I do love working with natural stone so I started my business 22 plus years ago. I do not have to advertise, more work comes my way than I can do.

  • @samalfellah2066
    @samalfellah2066 Před rokem +1

    Very well done 👏

  • @maxwellperkins9647
    @maxwellperkins9647 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Fantastic video. Thanks so much for making this. It is by far the single best source of comprehensive information on this topic. One question. What is that drill attachment shown at ~18:43 which is used to rough the sharp, cut edges? I have never seen anything like that and can't find it with a Google search. Thanks again!

  • @nelsonsandoval1383
    @nelsonsandoval1383 Před rokem

    Hello Robert, good job, if I find myself in all the rush that I was doing heavy work for 60 dollars a day, no dude👍😂

  • @souldrummer818
    @souldrummer818 Před rokem +1

    Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 what's the attachment you had on the grinder that you used to feather cut the sawn edges please? We use total different laying method here but we don't have to worry about freezing expansion, which I presume why you laid the dry method 👍

  • @someguy5927
    @someguy5927 Před 10 měsíci

    What do you put around the new patio to prevent it from moving? Cement? Plastic edging?

  • @Kushert
    @Kushert Před 2 lety +1

    I love my zip level

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 2 lety

      They are great. People are always like “wtf is that?”. At that point it’s a done deal.

  • @thebox100
    @thebox100 Před rokem +1

    What tool is the guy using to beat the edge of the flagstone towards the end on the last tiny peice

  • @user51264
    @user51264 Před 2 měsíci

    What is the tool that you are using to rough the edge of the flag stone? Thanks!

  • @trevorgreycattleco
    @trevorgreycattleco Před rokem +2

    My man, you’re craftsmanship is top notch. Top notch. Why not landscape around the patio though? Some grasses and some perennials with some color would set that beautiful patio off. Maybe some solar lights too

  • @mayatt04
    @mayatt04 Před 2 lety +1

    Beautiful job. Do you compact the base and also the bedding material?

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 2 lety +2

      Only the base. Bedding gets compacted went the stones are set. In this video we used hammers. We have since started using a roller compactor. Thanks for watching!

  • @cherylkleffer4095
    @cherylkleffer4095 Před 2 měsíci

    Maybe I have not read far enough but how do up get the slaps perfectly level if there is a few that are wobbling.

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 2 měsíci

      At first its trial and error. Eventually installers get good at knowing how much material is needed.

  • @syjohnston6603
    @syjohnston6603 Před rokem +4

    Man this seems like overkill and a ton of money, but it sure is a nice finished product!

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 Před rokem

      That's what I'm saying - every edge is an individual measurement and cut. Better have the time to spend.

  • @jmbuckley3
    @jmbuckley3 Před 2 lety +2

    Very nice looking work! I build fireplaces in the Adirondacks in NY. I was wondering what the drill attachment is called for roughing up the stone edges and where I could find one? That is a very handy tool!

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 2 lety

      You can purchase through PaveTool.

    • @jmbuckley3
      @jmbuckley3 Před 2 lety

      @@thebackyardexpert Thank you!

    • @fraserhayes15416
      @fraserhayes15416 Před 2 lety

      @@thebackyardexpert Would you be able to provide a link? I'm having a hard time finding it. Thanks in advance!

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 2 lety +2

      @@fraserhayes15416 pavetool.com/collections/quick-e-tools/products/quick-e-tumbler

  • @joshuamcguire4832
    @joshuamcguire4832 Před 5 měsíci

    instead of the 3/8th inch atone chip...can you use paver base and lay the flagstone on top of that?

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 5 měsíci

      Paver base is a very generalized term. Can you be more specific?

    • @joshuamcguire4832
      @joshuamcguire4832 Před 5 měsíci

      @@thebackyardexpert at the big box stores they got this thing called paver base and another one called paver Sand. They say to put the paver base down first It's like thicker sand and the paver sand on top.. I think the paper base just thicker granules

  • @nathanappleby8678
    @nathanappleby8678 Před rokem

    what type of edging do you use for your flagstone? Mortor, snap, permaedge, something else?

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem

      Depends. If it is a patio we put large pieces on the edge and no edging. Never an issue. If it is more likely to get abused like a walkway or the pieces are smaller we use concrete of some form, again depending.

  • @rexgreen3410
    @rexgreen3410 Před rokem +1

    Where do you get the drill attachment to get the rough look after you make a cut I can’t find the attachment anywhere

  • @bigmule35
    @bigmule35 Před rokem +1

    I work by my self a lot and I was wondering how many sq feet of flag stone should one man be able to put down in a day .? The stones I lay are right on the edge of two man stones down to small. Thanks in advance for any info , I have really enjoyed your video's .

    • @lilsushi5833
      @lilsushi5833 Před rokem +1

      I’ve done 100sqft of flagstone in a day. but it took me the day before to excavate/prep. so i’d say it depends on how big of a pad you’re doing

    • @bigmule35
      @bigmule35 Před rokem

      @@lilsushi5833 , I have been doing about 40sq' a day and prepping as I am going . ( walk way ) . Cutting stone and fitting as well. 100sq' is moving compared to me.

  • @Kushert
    @Kushert Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing how tight you get them joints

  • @dustinnye9858
    @dustinnye9858 Před rokem +1

    Any chance you can share where you get the step setter chain deal?

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem +2

      pavetool.com/products/quick-e-tumbler?_pos=1&_sid=fd0ecadcb&_ss=r

    • @dustinnye9858
      @dustinnye9858 Před rokem +1

      @@thebackyardexpert appreciate the quick response! I saw you had the link to that but I mean the chain that hooks to your excavator that helps pick up the big pieces of flagstone. Great videos man!

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem +1

      @@dustinnye9858 Same company has vacuum lifters

    • @crownfire86
      @crownfire86 Před rokem

      This was super helpful, I came to the comments for the same info.

  • @Edisito
    @Edisito Před rokem

    Good job but personally I don’t like how many small accent stones there are and I know it probably wasn’t your choice for the material but I call that baby jumbo real jumbo flagstone is 3-4 inch thick imo

  • @notdeadnetwork
    @notdeadnetwork Před rokem

    Love this, what does something like this cost?

    • @notdeadnetwork
      @notdeadnetwork Před rokem

      Really want this flagstone style patio around our place! ( We are in N Delaware)

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem

      We can possibly help with that. Typically goes for around $100/ft. You can also come to one of our workshops to learn how to do it. StoneWorker.org

  • @regulardude2011
    @regulardude2011 Před rokem +1

    Beautiful work. Flag stone patios look a bit harder/time consuming vs paver patios. I bet flag stone patios cost more compared to paver patios

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem +2

      correct. Paver patio gets pulled out in 15-25 years and flagstone done well lasts 30-300!

    • @regulardude2011
      @regulardude2011 Před rokem

      @@thebackyardexpert yea, that’s a huge difference!

    • @ayelaii
      @ayelaii Před rokem

      @@thebackyardexpert What factors contribute to flagstone lasting longer than pavers? What makes the stone last longer than pavers?

  • @dflaggvt
    @dflaggvt Před rokem

    Aren't you supposed to use some sort of Edging to hold the patio in place

  • @Tangaroa1dollarway
    @Tangaroa1dollarway Před rokem +1

    What is that rough edge machine?.

  • @MrBigboytoys
    @MrBigboytoys Před 5 měsíci

    Where can i pick up the chaining tool

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 5 měsíci

      @pavetool

    • @MrBigboytoys
      @MrBigboytoys Před 5 měsíci

      @thebackyardexpert okay awesome also man i really loved this 1/4" gap i also dont understand how you guys are getting so much a sqft on your jobs. I wish people would pay those rates in my area of pa

  • @justinwesley2423
    @justinwesley2423 Před rokem +1

    8"-9" of base for a flagstone patio? We don't even use that much for paver driveways lol.

  • @almaandres608
    @almaandres608 Před 2 lety +1

    How much usually is this size?

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 2 lety +1

      Great question. There were quite a few moving parts on this project. You can choose your size and features in our buying guide here: www.sierralandscapemanagement.com/buyersguide

  • @GorillamansGarage
    @GorillamansGarage Před rokem +1

    at what cost

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching. The patio portion of this project used approximately 250 man hours. You can multiply by hourly rate and materials to come to your level of investment. The minimum level of investment to work with us is 100k.

  • @cayugawolf1
    @cayugawolf1 Před rokem +1

    Beautiful, what is something like that worth?

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem

      Thank you for watching! You can always find up to date investment levels in our Buyer's Guide www.sierralandscapemanagement.com/buyersguide

    • @regulardude2011
      @regulardude2011 Před rokem +3

      20-30k

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před rokem +1

      @@regulardude2011 around $100 sq ft

    • @regulardude2011
      @regulardude2011 Před rokem

      @@thebackyardexpert wow, way more than I thought. That’s nice though. I wonder how you charge for excavation. Per cubic yard or how many hours it takes. I’ve been doing some research on how to properly charge for patios. Do you think charging $200 per cubic yard excavated too much? Doing a 500sq ft patio would mean roughly 10 yards would need to be excavated or $2000.

    • @thatboyjosh73
      @thatboyjosh73 Před rokem

      @@regulardude2011 wow. That is insane for something that size

  • @angetodac
    @angetodac Před rokem

    How deep u have to excavate

  • @oakridger11
    @oakridger11 Před 3 měsíci +3

    This is beautiful, but not at all DIY. Beautiful, but very high dollar.

  • @johnsimoney2035
    @johnsimoney2035 Před 10 měsíci

    This is an excellent example of great craftsmanship, but overkill in base layer design for a flagstone patio that’s only gonna see pedestrian traffic. 8-9 inches of gravel base layers is like preparing to pour a concrete sidewalk or pavers where vehicles will be driving over.
    For pedestrian traffic, only about +/-6” is needed, followed by the bedding layer (DG/Decomposed Granite, Stone Dust, or stone dust/cement bedding layer, which is strongest).
    I hope whoever the homeowner is never finds out that he was overcharged for labor/material that wasn’t needed 😂

    • @thebackyardexpert
      @thebackyardexpert  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing. Yea we definitely overbuild, and also sleep very well too. LOL. We’ve built in several different states across the country and base depth’s definitely vary in different areas. 8” is standard in that area because of the clay and harsh winters. Glad to hear it’s a little easier your way! Thanks for watching.

  • @TheAlpine49
    @TheAlpine49 Před rokem +1

    Pretty good job. I know it's subjective. I personally think the largest stones set the first day are too big and out of scale with the remaining stone. Your joints look good. Almost too perfect. Its taken away the natural stone look because it's too geometric. Way to many saw cut straight lines. Thank goodness you followed the three-corner rule for the most part. Try to remember you're installing natural stone outside for a patio that should not look fake or man-made. But, overall, a nice job.

  • @DinkyDingus
    @DinkyDingus Před rokem

    This guys constant fb mom camera angle is so distracting

  • @telesforolopez4738
    @telesforolopez4738 Před rokem

    Do the video to see the work you do. Don’t show you face