AI's cultural impact cannot be denied. But, people underrate his impact on the game as well. He gave us the modern combo guard. He paved the way for everyone from Steph to Westbrook to become focal points of an offense.
100%. Handle, swagger, grit, undersize players, etc. He put a spotlight and represented so much to the people. He still shows love to everybody to this day. Even Ben Simmons lol.
Nah he brought so much swag and grit to the game as an undersized guard he def changed the game. Arm sleeve, tats, braids bringin ya homies to the game and havin em floor seats nahhh
AGREED. Iverson influenced a whole culture. Curry just people shooting threes. And who knows whether just shooting threes is even good for the game in the long run
A.I. had an effect on & OFF the court. Jordan and Iverson have an equal amount of lasting effects, on the game. Jordan’s brand & overall game/ mentality will forever effect the game & Iverson’s effect is everlasting as well.
I started watching during the magic/bird/jordan era. Those 3 made me love the game. I respected Kobe and Lebron but I didnt enjoy basketball again until Curry and GSW started killing the league.
Athletic apparel as a category exists in its current form because of AI. Global transformation. People in other countries playing sports other than basketball that never heard of AI are dressing like him today.
I think Kobe gotta be in there too had a lot of kids and adults shooting contested fade aways trynna be like him plus even though it might’ve been blown out of proportion in retrospect he was the face of being clutch for a while a lot of us used to see a trash can and be like “3, 2, 1, Kobe!”
Ppl act like players wasn't mimicking Iverson game. Kode studied Iverson game n used his playing style he said it himself n da isolation size up defense to break down to score. Iverson started dat Steph play like Iverson cause Iverson use to jack 3s n Steph took it back to logo range n jus shot 3s but Iverson was a combo guard playmaker 6apg with da points. Look at the playing style of today. Dats Iverson
u just yapping now who the fuck copying allen iverson shooting 3s foh. look at the style of play today its steph mother fuckers passing up open layups for 3s they wasnt doing all that bullsht back then stop talking out ur neck
Culturally, AI is just hip hop…. His crossovers were emulated, but there were other pros with elite handles Curry, and credit to prime Klay, changed the game.
I get the idea but Kobe would have one or two 30 foot attempts per game even bron would seemingly shoot better from 30+ than at the line. I remember kids shooting from the volley ball lines 10+ years ago in hs
The NBA was trending to shooting more 3s, steph just took it to an even greater HOF level. Think what wouldve happened if he continued to get hurt like his first year, or wasnt as accurate, or if cleveland had beat the warriors that first year. The copycat league wouldve went towards a cleveland style or maybe OKC style of play than GS because until then, jump shooting teams couldn't win championships. Think about where the NBA was trending when MJ showed up. There werent as many super athletic sky walkers so the NBA wouldve trended towards more Magic or Bird type players, maybe len Bias forwards, maybe more Pistons type of defensive players. MJ changed all that and ushered in an era of high flyers and HS kids, but he wasnt a hip hop guy, neither was Kobe. AI brought in the hip hop crowd and now you hear rap and hip hop in the arenas.
Steph used to be at all of the Jordan camps the Nike camps and we played in a lot of AAU tournaments together. He's always been fundamentally sound but he was always smaller and then he had a growth spurt
Teague is correct. If you question AI’s influence just look at everyone’s arms. Tatts & arms sleeves on EVERYONE because of him. And then the crossover. Half of the move list we see derives from Iverson. Steph is better offensively and his shot changed the game. MJ, Iverson, Curry, KD is my most influential list.
Steph changed the game completely. AI made people think they need a crossover. Steph made everyone need a 3 ball. We look at centers like "Can he spread the floor??"
Lol nigga centers have been eveolving and curry has nothjng to do with that 🤣🤣🤣🤣 he got the kids shooting from deep but the center position has been evolving and big men in general there are big ass point guards that can play center or guard on any given night 🙄🤣
If we talkin straight game, I gotta put Paul George in there. These young kids in the league n coming into the league all wanted to be like PG. If you a hooper you know. He’s their goat
I'd say on court... steph a little bit more ahead, yeah Iverson had everyone doing crossover.. but I think this far 3 point is on another level.. but everything else wise... fashion etc.. Iverson 100%
saying you wanna be like Mike and actually doing it is different , everyone out here really think they can shoot 30footers and if you dont have shooting as a basis of your team you almost cant win
Some of these kids were barely being born lol they don't literally see AI doing things, they can't. They're seeing these other players do it while those guys are actually doing it because of AI lol but these kids don't get it. They don't realize that street dude image and swag in the NBA came from AI.
I get killed for saying that but I agree.. Cool he had 30 but he shot 11 for 29 and dominated the ball so much his teammates couldn’t get any rhythm going. If you shoot it 30ish times you BETTER have some points lol
I never played basketball as a kid livin in London and i still wanted to be AI. I played football(soccer) wiv a sweatband on my arm n wanted braids so bad
Steph was the mold used to beat lebron the hyper aggressive scoring guard 3&d wing and stretch big are byproducts of lebrons dominance that is what worked best to beat him so that’s what gms drafted
Can’t believe they didn’t have Kobe on the list 😂😂😂😂when your shoot a crazy three or a crazy fade away you say curryyy or kobbeee that’s all that need to be said 😂😂
Teague has insights to tell but lacks the ability to express them. “Man, that’s crazy”, the n-word everywhere… even Gilbert Arenas can communicate better
If you say influential then you gotta be more than on court stuff. Iverson definitely the biggest the only one sayin he ain’t is bunch of lil ass kids who watch basketball in the 2010s
of course he’s more influential he represents a lot of inner city black kids life and struggles. Steph come from a father who was a very successful nba player for many years. People want to shoot like Steph but MJ, Kobe, and AI are above Steph easily
smoking rocks saying AI more influential than Steph… AI impact is felt by our community the black community but Steph impact on the game stretches across the globe on every basketball court. Can’t compare the two when one’s globally
Bron is not the best period dont care about points. He changed nothing. Steph impact is different, and AI's impact is different. So stop saying who had the biggest influence. Saying a kid can't make shots like Steph is dumb. You can't compare the impact of either player. It was generational for both.
Positionless basketball started with LeBron in Miami. When he first got in the league, everyone really played a set position Pg, Sg, Sf, Pf, C. That's not mention proactive player movement.
… its Steph and it’s not close.. Respect to Iverson and even his carrying crossover BUT it’s not close.. Steph and the revolution of the 3Three has made the traditional 5 obsolete. Bigs are constantly 2.9 because of how the league has shifted
To put in into perspective: I grew up in Nigeria/Cameroon 97 - 2005 and the impact A.I. had WITHOUT the internet was insane.
AI's cultural impact cannot be denied. But, people underrate his impact on the game as well. He gave us the modern combo guard. He paved the way for everyone from Steph to Westbrook to become focal points of an offense.
100%. Handle, swagger, grit, undersize players, etc. He put a spotlight and represented so much to the people. He still shows love to everybody to this day. Even Ben Simmons lol.
Facts u can see iverson cross over n everybody game
Iverson carried so these guys could travel 🫡🤣
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Not even being an old head steph def changed the game. But ai impact culturally was different different.
AI changed the culture
Steph changed the game
Nah he brought so much swag and grit to the game as an undersized guard he def changed the game. Arm sleeve, tats, braids bringin ya homies to the game and havin em floor seats nahhh
Well said 💯
AGREED. Iverson influenced a whole culture. Curry just people shooting threes. And who knows whether just shooting threes is even good for the game in the long run
Curry and it’s not close. AI was influential in USA and the hood.
Curry is influential everywhere in the world.
are you an idiot?
AI touched world wide..everywhere had his sleeve on..and shoes
AI is a worldwide superstar
@@DR05jr no one wears his shoes, don’t lie.
No one talks about AI as much as they do curry and his prime wasn’t as popular as curry in his.
A.I. had an effect on & OFF the court. Jordan and Iverson have an equal amount of lasting effects, on the game. Jordan’s brand & overall game/ mentality will forever effect the game & Iverson’s effect is everlasting as well.
I stopped watching nba after MJ retired, then my brother said "You gotta watch this mf from the bay, he is special" and I've been a fan since then...
I started watching during the magic/bird/jordan era. Those 3 made me love the game. I respected Kobe and Lebron but I didnt enjoy basketball again until Curry and GSW started killing the league.
4:56 ima steph/ai fan but im glad yall shouted out gil because we were shooting 30 footers because of him back in the agent zero days
Everybody wanted tattoos and arm sleeve head bands all that Mr. Iverson
AI was so woven into culture, street culture specifically
Athletic apparel as a category exists in its current form because of AI. Global transformation. People in other countries playing sports other than basketball that never heard of AI are dressing like him today.
Jordan number one off sneakers alone. You get your ass clowned wearing some damn curry’s
Leave the curry’s alone man😭
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"He brought that stretch out" is craaaazzzyyy !😂😂
Nobody was more influential than AI except Mike!
AI is why I love basketball
I think Kobe gotta be in there too had a lot of kids and adults shooting contested fade aways trynna be like him plus even though it might’ve been blown out of proportion in retrospect he was the face of being clutch for a while a lot of us used to see a trash can and be like “3, 2, 1, Kobe!”
Unpopular opinion, i think steph but also Rasheed Wallace, Dirk, and KD perfect timing gave every position the greenlight
Ppl act like players wasn't mimicking Iverson game. Kode studied Iverson game n used his playing style he said it himself n da isolation size up defense to break down to score. Iverson started dat Steph play like Iverson cause Iverson use to jack 3s n Steph took it back to logo range n jus shot 3s but Iverson was a combo guard playmaker 6apg with da points. Look at the playing style of today. Dats Iverson
u just yapping now who the fuck copying allen iverson shooting 3s foh. look at the style of play today its steph mother fuckers passing up open layups for 3s they wasnt doing all that bullsht back then stop talking out ur neck
Steph influenced fans and kids, but iverson influenced the players as well.
Culturally, AI is just hip hop…. His crossovers were emulated, but there were other pros with elite handles
Curry, and credit to prime Klay, changed the game.
1) MJ/Kobe 2)Curry 3)AI 4)Kyrie 5)Magic
Fact!
Kobe, PG got young boys
I get the idea but Kobe would have one or two 30 foot attempts per game even bron would seemingly shoot better from 30+ than at the line. I remember kids shooting from the volley ball lines 10+ years ago in hs
Just When I was Feeling Jeff smh .... Steph PERIOD
Kobe! 🐍
Not mentioning Kobe is criminal
They mentioned Mike
TMac was it before KD
Curry literally changed the entire way basketball is played. It used to be get the ball as close to the basket as possible now it's the opposite
The NBA was trending to shooting more 3s, steph just took it to an even greater HOF level. Think what wouldve happened if he continued to get hurt like his first year, or wasnt as accurate, or if cleveland had beat the warriors that first year. The copycat league wouldve went towards a cleveland style or maybe OKC style of play than GS because until then, jump shooting teams couldn't win championships.
Think about where the NBA was trending when MJ showed up. There werent as many super athletic sky walkers so the NBA wouldve trended towards more Magic or Bird type players, maybe len Bias forwards, maybe more Pistons type of defensive players. MJ changed all that and ushered in an era of high flyers and HS kids, but he wasnt a hip hop guy, neither was Kobe. AI brought in the hip hop crowd and now you hear rap and hip hop in the arenas.
Steph used to be at all of the Jordan camps the Nike camps and we played in a lot of AAU tournaments together. He's always been fundamentally sound but he was always smaller and then he had a growth spurt
Teague is correct. If you question AI’s influence just look at everyone’s arms. Tatts & arms sleeves on EVERYONE because of him. And then the crossover. Half of the move list we see derives from Iverson. Steph is better offensively and his shot changed the game. MJ, Iverson, Curry, KD is my most influential list.
AI influenced more outside of the game. Steph changed the game.
It’s the only way to put it.
Cap , ai change the game on the court & off
I still have AI as the second most influential player after MJ. Steph and Kobe is not far behind.
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Steph changed the game completely. AI made people think they need a crossover. Steph made everyone need a 3 ball. We look at centers like "Can he spread the floor??"
Lol nigga centers have been eveolving and curry has nothjng to do with that 🤣🤣🤣🤣 he got the kids shooting from deep but the center position has been evolving and big men in general there are big ass point guards that can play center or guard on any given night 🙄🤣
AI gave little undersized shooting guards everywhere the green light. He paved the way for Steph, Westbrook, etc.
@robk6831 damn i didnt consider that. No small guards were stars until AI. Crazy stuff. Go off small kings lol
Don't forget Jason Kidd as point god.
I’m 35 and u crazy lil Jeff Iverson was iiigght cooler off court than on
AI with no regular internet...is ridiculous to think him with it..
Can't forget Penny Hardaway
Steph changed the game AI changed the culture
If we talkin straight game, I gotta put Paul George in there. These young kids in the league n coming into the league all wanted to be like PG. If you a hooper you know. He’s their goat
for the non-athletic/big guys you gotta say Dirk and Shaq 👀
I'd say on court... steph a little bit more ahead, yeah Iverson had everyone doing crossover.. but I think this far 3 point is on another level.. but everything else wise... fashion etc.. Iverson 100%
saying you wanna be like Mike and actually doing it is different , everyone out here really think they can shoot 30footers and if you dont have shooting as a basis of your team you almost cant win
AI may be the most influential in style looks wise, but definitely not play style.
AI is the most Culturally and Stephen changed the way the game is played!
Steph’s impact with the 3 ball is what really made him influential….what are the kids warming up with nowadays??
And people was wearing AI shoes..
MJ no 1, AI no 2 and Magic no 3. Steph influence more players to shoot, thats it.
Allen Iverson a goat tf dnt question it
Ai impacted the culture Steph impacted the game😊
If this is a serious conversation then you must have been dead sleep for 15 years. AI moved global culture. Not just the NBA.
Some of these kids were barely being born lol they don't literally see AI doing things, they can't. They're seeing these other players do it while those guys are actually doing it because of AI lol but these kids don't get it. They don't realize that street dude image and swag in the NBA came from AI.
allen iverson lowkey overrated...he shot like 40-30-75 for his career playing 3hrs a game
I get killed for saying that but I agree.. Cool he had 30 but he shot 11 for 29 and dominated the ball so much his teammates couldn’t get any rhythm going. If you shoot it 30ish times you BETTER have some points lol
I never played basketball as a kid livin in London and i still wanted to be AI. I played football(soccer) wiv a sweatband on my arm n wanted braids so bad
PG more influential than KD
Steph was the mold used to beat lebron the hyper aggressive scoring guard 3&d wing and stretch big are byproducts of lebrons dominance that is what worked best to beat him so that’s what gms drafted
This’ll be a better discussion when they’re both retired.
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To me, Kobe is the instant 4th
Can’t believe they didn’t have Kobe on the list 😂😂😂😂when your shoot a crazy three or a crazy fade away you say curryyy or kobbeee that’s all that need to be said 😂😂
Yo Steph got the grandma crowd💯tried to sneak in that Lebron the best ever bullshit😭fuck naw
You cant copy 6'8 250😂😂😂 like we could be jordan and AI
The most influential person is Kobe. You will never see a person scream another persons name before they shoot the ball like that ever again.
They scream curry now but before that it was Kobe💯😭
Teague has insights to tell but lacks the ability to express them. “Man, that’s crazy”, the n-word everywhere… even Gilbert Arenas can communicate better
Because he is way more influential than a dude who’s known for nothing but shooting 3s nobody wanted to be Steph outside of shooting 3s lol 😂😂
Unless you lived through the iverson era you won’t understand
If you say influential then you gotta be more than on court stuff. Iverson definitely the biggest the only one sayin he ain’t is bunch of lil ass kids who watch basketball in the 2010s
Not at all, Steph changed the game. It's not even close. AI was legendary, but he didn't change the game.
Lmao he literally had rules put in place because of him? What do you mean he didn’t change the game in what aspect
Lebron can’t be the biggest impact because nobody can replicate his game. Dude is 1of1 6’9 250 freight train. no little kids can be him 😂
of course he’s more influential he represents a lot of inner city black kids life and struggles. Steph come from a father who was a very successful nba player for many years. People want to shoot like Steph but MJ, Kobe, and AI are above Steph easily
If he represents what was already there, what is he influencing?
What😂😂that’s one segment of the basketball community… Steph has impacted every segment of the basketball community, y’all can’t really be this slow
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These lil dudes think Paul George the 🐐
Steph got kids AROUND THE WORLD chucking half court shots yelling "Curry" AND making them. These old heads just nostalgic cuz they lived through AI😂
never understood the AI hype, biggest hog ever 😂
Curry better but ai impact culturally was undisputed.
Wait til you get old too, still glazing these guys when the new generation shitting all over it lol
@@lordbeerus6182changing the way the entire game is played is more influential than people wearing baggy jeans.
Old head sounds dumb af. Steph is the best shooter ever and that's it. Not top 10 player of all time
i think nowadays PG
Steph aint created shiii......i think he the best 3 point shooter but not the first .....AI was a monster 👾
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smoking rocks saying AI more influential than Steph… AI impact is felt by our community the black community but Steph impact on the game stretches across the globe on every basketball court. Can’t compare the two when one’s globally
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J Dub cold ass WB the coldest to me as a true PG not #1 but top 5 from a hoopers eyes
Nah.
LBJ ain't the best ever
Cap
These dudes have the worst NBA Podcast.
Bron is not the best period dont care about points. He changed nothing. Steph impact is different, and AI's impact is different. So stop saying who had the biggest influence. Saying a kid can't make shots like Steph is dumb. You can't compare the impact of either player. It was generational for both.
Jordan is trash
Positionless basketball started with LeBron in Miami. When he first got in the league, everyone really played a set position Pg, Sg, Sf, Pf, C. That's not mention proactive player movement.
Iverson = aesthetics Steph = strategy 0:29
… its Steph and it’s not close.. Respect to Iverson and even his carrying crossover BUT it’s not close.. Steph and the revolution of the 3Three has made the traditional 5 obsolete. Bigs are constantly 2.9 because of how the league has shifted
Teague takes suck😂