I like the idea of basically building a new boat from the ghost of the original boat. It'll retain the 1936 spirit within modern construction. Beautiful work as in all your builds!
Brilliant work! My project is a 1961 CC 17-ft ski boat. It’s a very similar boat to yours. But my wood was in better shape. I’m glad I found your channel. I’m learning much. Thanks!
just an fyi , Dan ... the Mariners Museum in Newport News , Virginia USA has plans for ALL of the Chris-Craft boats ...info from there might help with the restoration on that 1936 , 17 footer !!!
Really lovely work, thank you for recording your thoughtful experiences. I worked in a boat store here in the USA while at school, late 1960s. We could not give bronze fasteners away. If I had simply purchased bronze screws and carriage bolts and stayed away from the stock market life might have been measurably different in my old age. Interestingly in the new century, I can't get decent stainless or Monel (you folks call it admiralty metal) here anymore. If anyone knows a suitable supplier of European or American made fasteners in 18-8 or Monel please comment.
Thanks Tim, if only you'd bought up boxes of them, that would have been a nice retirement for you! Good quality fasteners are hard to come by, most are made in china now I suspect, especially stainless ones.
They took some 3500 fasteners out of my Riviera and they said there was double the required number, added probably over the years. So, call it 1500 the correct number, 50 snt each and then some, so I put at the 900 EUR bracket for those fasteners.
Very Cool Boat in regards to the original Canvas , do you ever find the need to put a new one back in the boats for the rebuild ? i know that Chris Craft used to install a Canvas that was Oiled somehow to help prevent water penetrating the hulls and i wondered if it’s necessary and /or have you found a better system with modern materials ?
The fitting looks like an oar lock, although I have never seen a Chris Craft with them. I think the bottom screws are bronze, not brass. The steering wheel and controls were added later, not original.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding I don't know the general prices of your area but this seems quite expensive to me. I have bought many bronze fittings last year for my own boat and yes they are really expensive. You are in Cardiff, Wales?
Yes it is nailed with bronze grip fast nails. I don’t remember mentioning screws at any stage during the bottom installation. There won’t be any used on this bottom.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Thank you. I'm very interested how you finish the bottom and sides. Most failures of frames is caused by the large number of screws. I really appreciate your details. Jim
I highly recommend no Epoxy below the waterline. Stick with traditional. Epoxy under the water is never a good idea. This fad is not how wooden boats are supposed to be and is more likely to have serious trouble faster because of it. It is a harbinger of Rot. If anyone uses epoxy bottoms, just go buy a fiberglass boat and leave the woodies to those who know what their doin'.
I disagree, if Chris Craft had epoxy back in 1936 then would have used it instead of canvas, bedding compound and brass screws. This is still a wooden boat and a far cry away from anything fibreglass.
@@muskokaboatbuilder in all ways your right, maybe you were thinking about polyester that absorbs water but if you use epoxy in your new build instead of the old resosonal glues you will find that epoxy is impervious to water,it is stronger than polyester and much better 😇
That makes re-building a car look simple and is the most difficult restoration I have ever seen.
I like the idea of basically building a new boat from the ghost of the original boat. It'll retain the 1936 spirit within modern construction. Beautiful work as in all your builds!
Yes thats my thought as well. There won't be much of the original left but there will be some!
Brilliant work! My project is a 1961 CC 17-ft ski boat. It’s a very similar boat to yours. But my wood was in better shape. I’m glad I found your channel. I’m learning much. Thanks!
You are beyond amazing! Thank You!
Virtually a new boat😀
You do excellent work Dan. Can’t wait for the next video.
Thanks 👍
This is what I called realy excellent craftmanship!
Positively incredible. Such artistry.
Brilliant. Totally aligned on the new, better technology for the bottom. Very interesting video!!
Very nice video, looking forward to the next installment!
super video Dan!
just an fyi , Dan ... the Mariners Museum in Newport News , Virginia USA has plans for ALL of the Chris-Craft boats ...info from there might help with the restoration on that 1936 , 17 footer !!!
I tried them but unfortunately they didn't have any plans for this boat from that period :(
Excellent
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Congratulation, beautiful work.
nice work..........
Great job 👍
They fitting may be for barefoot skiing, it's popular in the states
Really lovely work, thank you for recording your thoughtful experiences. I worked in a boat store here in the USA while at school, late 1960s. We could not give bronze fasteners away. If I had simply purchased bronze screws and carriage bolts and stayed away from the stock market life might have been measurably different in my old age.
Interestingly in the new century, I can't get decent stainless or Monel (you folks call it admiralty metal) here anymore. If anyone knows a suitable supplier of European or American made fasteners in 18-8 or Monel please comment.
Thanks Tim, if only you'd bought up boxes of them, that would have been a nice retirement for you! Good quality fasteners are hard to come by, most are made in china now I suspect, especially stainless ones.
They took some 3500 fasteners out of my Riviera and they said there was double the required number, added probably over the years. So, call it 1500 the correct number, 50 snt each and then some, so I put at the 900 EUR bracket for those fasteners.
You are pretty close there 👍
Very Cool Boat in regards to the original Canvas , do you ever find the need to put a new one back in the boats for the rebuild ? i know that Chris Craft used to install a Canvas that was Oiled somehow to help prevent water penetrating the hulls and i wondered if it’s necessary and /or have you found a better system with modern materials ?
Fantastic video. I was glued to it from start to finish. My guess of a ludicrous amount of money for screws would be $2500 US
Thanks! You are a little over on the value, its around half that... still pricey though!
Like to see some of these steps in real time .
I have shot some video of putting the bottom on which will be coming out soon 👍
The fittings are for mounting beaching legs
The fitting looks like an oar lock, although I have never seen a Chris Craft with them. I think the bottom screws are bronze, not brass. The steering wheel and controls were added later, not original.
I would guess about $1800 US for the hardware, but its tough to estimate given how much those prices have been fluctuating.
Yep, you are about right there. Prices have probably changed here since I bought them as well.
These Bronze fasteners might have been about 300 bucks? Hard to guess the number of them so fast...
You'd need to add a 1 in front of that number!
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding I don't know the general prices of your area but this seems quite expensive to me. I have bought many bronze fittings last year for my own boat and yes they are really expensive. You are in Cardiff, Wales?
Very interesting :) but pls stop zoom in and out all the time I'm getting seasick ... I need to take a break before continue.
would that fitting be a breather for gas tank? I have one on my Cris Craft Riviera.
I don't think so, that was on the transom and there is nothing protruding inside. Looks almost like it takes a pin of some sort.
I wonder if someone tried to fit a canopy or sunshade?
Bilge pump outlet
It appears the first bottom layer is either nailed or plastic nailed, yet you said it is screwed ???
Yes it is nailed with bronze grip fast nails. I don’t remember mentioning screws at any stage during the bottom installation. There won’t be any used on this bottom.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Thank you. I'm very interested how you finish the bottom and sides. Most failures of frames is caused by the large number of screws. I really appreciate your details. Jim
Would that be for the bilge pump? Spelling not sure.
I don't think so, seems too small and the bilge pump had a different outlet. Looks as though it takes a pin of some sort maybe.
$1700-$2500 for fasteners… if your lucky!
Ok I’ll take a shot the fasteners are likely a minimum of £200 - now what’s the real number?
Actually about 5 times that! 😆
$300.00 dollars onthe Bronze cost ?
$143?
add a zero to that!
What a mess
£280?
Quite a bit more than that 😬
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Go on how much!?
@@creativecomposites6193 about £1k!
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Holy guacamole!Look forward to the next installment:)
Might just as well burn it and build a new one from the drawings theres nothing but rot here the magic word is epoxy 🤨
If I had drawings then yes probably, but there are none for this boat so it is essentially my template for a new one :)
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding way to go then best of luck with the vacuum bagging looking good ,
I highly recommend no Epoxy below the waterline. Stick with traditional. Epoxy under the water is never a good idea. This fad is not how wooden boats are supposed to be and is more likely to have serious trouble faster because of it. It is a harbinger of Rot. If anyone uses epoxy bottoms, just go buy a fiberglass boat and leave the woodies to those who know what their doin'.
I disagree, if Chris Craft had epoxy back in 1936 then would have used it instead of canvas, bedding compound and brass screws. This is still a wooden boat and a far cry away from anything fibreglass.
@@muskokaboatbuilder in all ways your right, maybe you were thinking about polyester that absorbs water but if you use epoxy in your new build instead of the old resosonal glues you will find that epoxy is impervious to water,it is stronger than polyester and much better 😇