Michael is playing in a much more difficult time than Phil... Look at the averages these days and the competition... Phil had much less competition than Michael... So not comparable
Thats what I keep thinking. How was the competetion back in Taylors heydays? Averages are a good indicator. Back in the old days some teams and players dominated their sport for 5-10 years, but its not really comparable cause now the competetion has gotten much better and harder.
Mattij87 Well, you dont explicitly say your argument. But I guess you are argueing against people saying that Taylor is better because he dominated the world elite for so long. In my opinion the only way to evaluate the overall success and performance of a sportsman is to compare his performance with his competitors. Because only the competitors of the same era played under the same conditions. Darts players these days are all scoring better than Taylor, Bristow, Manley etc. 20 years ago. Do they have become more intelligent or more talented ? No! Training has become more professional and Darts equipment has become more professional (less bouncer). Thats why its a lot easier to reach a 95+ average today than back in the days of Taylor. If a person with Taylor's talent, his ambition, his discipline and his mental strength and his attitude would have been born 25 years ago, he would dominate the darts elite almost like Taylor back in the days. And if a Van Gerwen or a Michael Smith would have been born 60 years ago, he would have never reached 100+ averages and probably had no chance to win a world title. So, yes, Van Gerwen at his prime is much better scoring than Taylor at his time. But since the condition were a lot different, you cant just conclude that Van Gerwen is just a much better, more talented player.
Taylor also played for much less money than MVG. Most of todays players would have no motivation, because at that time you didn't do it for the money. Much harder to train too, if you still have a job and can't play for 5 hours a day. If we put all speculation aside, and put facts on the table: Wright, Price or Anderson aren't any more of an opponent than Raymond van Barneveld, John Part or Adrian Lewis. In the end of the day, their era has overlapped, and Taylor is one of the few to have a positive W/L ratio against MVG, with 34 to 26. Played against MVG at the World Championship 3 times and won 3 times. Two times he went on to win the title too.
@@maxmustermann3876 your story has some flaws. It is a direct comparable fact that van Gerwen has way more competition. His competitors throw around the same OR slightly below his averages. Taylor his opponents where a Mile off his averages during his prime. Michael would have probably won more world titles then Phil if hè played in his era. due to the fact that he was at the top at a younger age, prolly a more RAW talent. Infact hè might actually still reach Taylor his number despite the competition.
This is why the USA doesn't have big shot players. Because of the age limit on bars you have to be 21 to go and play. At this age, European players are already semi pro
Time for you to hear Barney's story. He became good at his own room. His small Attic room. He wasn't allowed to go to the bars by his dad. Besides, I think that age is an excuse in darts. Look at players like Durrant, Gilding and Price. The biggest problems with darts in the States are that the PDC (and BDO I guess...) get few to none attention on national television. Another big problem is that the average American is very patriotic and believes that the USA is better in everything than everyone else. Don't get me wrong, but Americans are the only ones who think that calling a national sports tournament The World Series. Of course i'm referring to the MLB play-offs of course. And the last reason and also the one with the least impact is that Cricket (Darts) is very popular in the States. Yes it is a fun game, but not fair at all. 501 is more fair. The organisations of the USA should wonder if they want to get better players in the mainstream top, or that they want to keep the fun and arcade part of it, with the downside that they will not come close to the European (and Asian) top. That sounds like an easy question with an obvious answer, but most Americans want sport to be more entertainment and less the competitive and fair side....
Heb deze al eens gezien documentaire ... Hij geeft dartsfans een hele goeie raad aan de werpers van pijlen ... Juist natuurlijk uw natuurlijke worp gebruiken als je werpt ...
Die van Lowe was niet live. De eerste live 9 darter was van Greatbatch op de Dutch open En Taylor was de eerste live op Britse tv... dat zeggen ze er duidelijk bij. Dus als je het over iemand hebt die z'n huiswerk niet gedaan heeft
@@SR-mw4qe Van Gerwen komt wel weer terug, de dartresultaten van Price zijn niet indrukwekkender dan die van Van Gerwen. Als Price en Van Gerwen beiden hun niveau halen dan gaat Price er wel aan denk ik. Zou een gruwelijk gave pot zijn.
Van Gerwen will overstride Taylor in every possible way, for sure. His throw feel so instinctive. There is no reason to me, for him to be outperformed in the next decade.
hij is nog lang niet de beste ,.,.,., de beste darter(s zijn Bristow 5 wk titels,.,barney 5 titels en natuurlijk The power,.voorlopig moet ie zich nog verder bewijzen,.hij is een topper maar nog lang niet de beste
@@KanaalZonderNaam Denk dat Michael in een veel moeilijkere tijd leeft. Phil had 't veel makkelijker. Ik vind hem persoonlijk de allerbeste darter ooit.
"He throws at pace, the right pace"
Isn't it?
DTGDarts 😂🤦🏼♂️
Dat is gewoon brabants
Of nie?
@@ghosghar3412 Broer dat is engels
An all round fantastic player and a gentleman .
Nice documentary about mvg...that man really can push himself to win..and conquer the dartworld..
5 years later, still dominating Gary
MVG you are the best
Michael one of the greatest of the game well done
michael van gerwen is echt goed kijk altijd
Michael is playing in a much more difficult time than Phil... Look at the averages these days and the competition... Phil had much less competition than Michael... So not comparable
Totally agree with you :) But english darts players still don't like foreigners in the darts game. The crowd does :)
Thats what I keep thinking. How was the competetion back in Taylors heydays? Averages are a good indicator. Back in the old days some teams and players dominated their sport for 5-10 years, but its not really comparable cause now the competetion has gotten much better and harder.
Mattij87
Well, you dont explicitly say your argument. But I guess you are argueing against people saying that Taylor is better because he dominated the world elite for so long.
In my opinion the only way to evaluate the overall success and performance of a sportsman is to compare his performance with his competitors.
Because only the competitors of the same era played under the same conditions.
Darts players these days are all scoring better than Taylor, Bristow, Manley etc. 20 years ago.
Do they have become more intelligent or more talented ? No!
Training has become more professional and Darts equipment has become more professional (less bouncer).
Thats why its a lot easier to reach a 95+ average today than back in the days of Taylor.
If a person with Taylor's talent, his ambition, his discipline and his mental strength and his attitude would have been born 25 years ago, he would dominate the darts elite almost like Taylor back in the days.
And if a Van Gerwen or a Michael Smith would have been born 60 years ago, he would have never reached 100+ averages and probably had no chance to win a world title.
So, yes, Van Gerwen at his prime is much better scoring than Taylor at his time.
But since the condition were a lot different, you cant just conclude that Van Gerwen is just a much better, more talented player.
Taylor also played for much less money than MVG. Most of todays players would have no motivation, because at that time you didn't do it for the money. Much harder to train too, if you still have a job and can't play for 5 hours a day. If we put all speculation aside, and put facts on the table: Wright, Price or Anderson aren't any more of an opponent than Raymond van Barneveld, John Part or Adrian Lewis. In the end of the day, their era has overlapped, and Taylor is one of the few to have a positive W/L ratio against MVG, with 34 to 26. Played against MVG at the World Championship 3 times and won 3 times. Two times he went on to win the title too.
@@maxmustermann3876 your story has some flaws. It is a direct comparable fact that van Gerwen has way more competition. His competitors throw around the same OR slightly below his averages. Taylor his opponents where a Mile off his averages during his prime. Michael would have probably won more world titles then Phil if hè played in his era. due to the fact that he was at the top at a younger age, prolly a more RAW talent. Infact hè might actually still reach Taylor his number despite the competition.
hij is echt heel goed ik kijk al zijn wedstrijden
Een hele mooie kerel dit. Goeie gast
van gerben is getrouwd op mijn verjaardag 1 augustus:P
Jammer dat die nu geen 1e meer staat maar wat een legemde hij komt wel. Weer. Terug
Aankomend WK is er weer een kans voor hem om 1e te worden, als hij hem wint staat hij nummer één :D
I love.
I feel equal they are. phil, gary and michael.
they are straight.
straight. always straight.
the best in the world MVG
lekker thomas leuke video
MvG > Legend!!
topper
In my view he's the best I've seen. His 120+ world record average game would indicate that. Seems nice bloke too.
Michael IS the Best player evre!
Ever ? Do you remember a guy with the name ...Phil Taylor ? 16x WC ?
Tnx voor de views mensen :)
50K prachtig
Kanaal Zonder Naam 100k
130K
@@ChristiaanRoest79 huts
+@@ChristiaanRoest79 Het gaat te snel om bij te houden XD
Oh michael van gerwen ohh michael van gerwen
There is only one van gerwen ohh van gerwen
Nr1
Geweldige documentaire !
+Jesse Mijnen Tnx wordt gewaardeerd ;)
Kanaal Zonder Naam. Goed gekopieerd zal je bedoelen.
Heej lol dat cafe is bij mij tegenover !
Een ware kampioen en een prachtig mens.
Mooi die vergelijking met een hole in one. #golf
Two times world champion
De kale sloopkogel🏆🥇🎯
Kunnen we trots op zijn
Which one is harder to make/play?
A 9 darter, a hole in one or a 147?
Mi Ba a hattrick
147 9 holes
i would say - hole in one > 147 > 9 darter. i'm darts player ;)
I threw an 11 darter once,unfortunately I lost before the last 2 darts.
is there no all english video of this? 😀
the original is in english :)
Is it possible to have a version in French? Or with subtitles
romain frechon I will see what's possible.
ok thanks ;)
Kevin Schaap. Leer eerst zelf Engels."psible". Hahaha
This is why the USA doesn't have big shot players. Because of the age limit on bars you have to be 21 to go and play. At this age, European players are already semi pro
Time for you to hear Barney's story. He became good at his own room. His small Attic room. He wasn't allowed to go to the bars by his dad. Besides, I think that age is an excuse in darts. Look at players like Durrant, Gilding and Price. The biggest problems with darts in the States are that the PDC (and BDO I guess...) get few to none attention on national television. Another big problem is that the average American is very patriotic and believes that the USA is better in everything than everyone else. Don't get me wrong, but Americans are the only ones who think that calling a national sports tournament The World Series. Of course i'm referring to the MLB play-offs of course. And the last reason and also the one with the least impact is that Cricket (Darts) is very popular in the States. Yes it is a fun game, but not fair at all. 501 is more fair. The organisations of the USA should wonder if they want to get better players in the mainstream top, or that they want to keep the fun and arcade part of it, with the downside that they will not come close to the European (and Asian) top. That sounds like an easy question with an obvious answer, but most Americans want sport to be more entertainment and less the competitive and fair side....
Maar zo moeilijk om uit te voeren wat hij zegt de meester van de pijlen ...
31:43 they will give you money but they wont give you life
Heb deze al eens gezien documentaire ... Hij geeft dartsfans een hele goeie raad aan de werpers van pijlen ... Juist natuurlijk uw natuurlijke worp gebruiken als je werpt ...
Hoi
DOEI
Michael I am coming for you. And nothing will stop me, see you when I see you.
And?
Jammer dat gerwen niks tegen die cheerleaders zeggen als hij opkomt
Geen kampioen mee nu gary Anderson taylor moet Winne of michael game on
De eerste 9 darter op tv is die van John Lowe. Iemand heeft zijn huiswerk niet gedaan.
Die van Lowe was niet live.
De eerste live 9 darter was van Greatbatch op de Dutch open
En Taylor was de eerste live op Britse tv... dat zeggen ze er duidelijk bij.
Dus als je het over iemand hebt die z'n huiswerk niet gedaan heeft
hahan ik heet mike
hij is toch van nederland waarom praat hij niet nederlands
+S Degen Nederlanders kunnen wel engels maar engelsen kunnen geen nederlands ;)
+S Degen Hij kan EINDELIJK Engels man!!!
+S Degen Waarschijnlijk omdat het voor de Engelse tv is gemaakt.
Melvin Groenendijk nee omdat RTL7 Engelse interviews heeft gebruikt. Dit kanaal waar je het op kijkt is alleen goed in kopiëren.
Kolen engels
Michael is the best player in history I know taylor has won 16 times but Michael can beat that
Hij is niet meer de beste, zijn dagen zijn voorbij als alleen heerser.
Lol, helaas wel
Gerwin price is nu de man om te verslaan, mvg heeft weer een doel en uitdaging.
@@SR-mw4qe Van Gerwen komt wel weer terug, de dartresultaten van Price zijn niet indrukwekkender dan die van Van Gerwen. Als Price en Van Gerwen beiden hun niveau halen dan gaat Price er wel aan denk ik. Zou een gruwelijk gave pot zijn.
Van Gerwen will overstride Taylor in every possible way, for sure. His throw feel so instinctive.
There is no reason to me, for him to be outperformed in the next decade.
hij is nog lang niet de beste ,.,.,., de beste darter(s zijn Bristow 5 wk titels,.,barney 5 titels en natuurlijk The power,.voorlopig moet ie zich nog verder bewijzen,.hij is een topper maar nog lang niet de beste
De beste ter wereld zijn en de de beste ooit zijn, dat zijn ook twee verschillende dingen ;)
@@KanaalZonderNaam Denk dat Michael in een veel moeilijkere tijd leeft. Phil had 't veel makkelijker. Ik vind hem persoonlijk de allerbeste darter ooit.