Dr. Strickland - Antler Genetics, Buck Movements, and Whitetail Deer Politics | HUNTR Podcast #15
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- čas přidán 3. 05. 2021
- Dr. Bronson Strickland joins Jared, Jeremy, and Corey Horn to discuss whitetail deer studies, research, and the way different environments and conditions affect deer growth and development.
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I’m currently an undergrad wildlife ecology major at OSU. Definitely interested in applying to MSU for my masters.
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This may be semi old podcast but i think every person industry wide should hear.
Not only do i love hearing dr Strickland share his scientific imput
I honestly never knew how much Jeremy knew about deer management and his background in deer everything really.
Jarred not to leave you out you give a perfect landowner imput and insite to the conversation.
Best pod/ youtube video ive ever watched no bs to this statement thank you all for your time and input!
Appreciate the support on this one!
I remember finding an antler in a fence with a piece of the skull cap still attached to it... then seen a deer with only one antler and a nasty scar on his head the next season. So that buck survived with an EXPOSED BRAIN. How tf he lived and didn't get a severe infection is beyond me. They're some tough creatures
That is incredible!
since we all love data, let's get some data on moon positioning overhead, underfoot, moonrise, moonset. we can definitely put to bed moon phase, especially in relationship to the rut
Theirs a guy in south Alabama that has a a few deer pets in a high fence and along with their grazing he feeds them a high quality supplement and his deer are really healthy and have enormous antlers all the time. I'm taking about a whitetail with moose like antlers and are 200 pounds of muscle. Everytime they grow antlers I'm always speechless.
Absolutely the best pod cast out there..Some of us are way behind..
Thanks dude!
Living in west Tennessee if you ain’t in a stand after thanksgiving at granny’s you’re messing up. Great show guys
This is very prevalent on a property near the county line of Marengo and Hale counties in Alabama. Spike on one side that is.
In the many years I've hunted WI, I have never seen a buck with a cow horn (have hunted western, central and sourthern WI).The only time was my buddy hunting pepin county private where there were supposedly more of these freaky bucks. I mightve missed it in the video, but I'm curious as to what areas of WI were the bucks taken from to restock other states
Here in central NC the cow horns run rampid !
Jeff’s point is a doe factory crest and in the south there is freaking green foods everywhere in the summer.
Great show, nice to bring MSU/Bronson to the pod cast!
Really excited to utilize the MSU deer lab pages. Really interesting stuff. Thanks for bringing it to the communities attention.
There is some amazing stuff on the MSU Deer Lab page listen to the Deer University podcast too!
Congrats on g1
Every deer manager needs to listen to this podcast.
Thanks Michael!
On the doe genetics thing, it's half the puzzle. Some deer breeders would say it's more important for does to have traits that are directed not only at potential antler growth, but also her ability to deliver a fawn that has the physiological and nutritional base that will turn him into a trophy buck 3-5 years from gestation. I am not aware of research, but i would suspect there is something about what epigenetic markers have been identified in does that correlate in improving the chances for trophy offspring. If not, there's an MSU's graduate thesis because the tech and the tissue samples are there, and every breeding outfit in the nation would be down to hear the results of it. Did i mention that this episode was awesome?
Haha glad you’re digging this Adam! More to come
Love the show guys just started watching and to be honest its cuz I seen Jeff on the show ..so glad I did its great to see a nutral opinion ...i will say for this vid Jeff is the first person to say its all relitive it just depends on what where and when I'm in NC and clover seems to be the best last pretty much the hole season...but with that said 20 miles down the road it might not depends on the pressure I guess ..
Thanks for listening in Chris! At then end of the day, you got to manage expectations
@@HUNTRPOD thats spot on brother
Great podcast guys, what was the correlation with the humidity and deer movement that you mentioned?
Thanks for watching Ronnie. So Mississippi State did a research project in conjunction with the Noble Foundation in Oklahoma. They GPS collared adult bucks to see how hunting pressure affected movement, but also looked at other variables like wind, temp change, humidity, etc. It seemed that humidity was the one factor always suppressing deer movement. The higher the humidity the less deer moved
Great info!
Thanks Kregg
1hs 49m 10sin there's a buck nickname Butch that is the way the crow flies over 120 miles has spread his genetics however many years ago and has thrown a week left side and more often than not has two more points on the opposite side than there weak side. I personally have harvested 2 to 3 of them over the years myself in quite a few blacktail hunters have harvested one of these bucks. And I'm talking klickitat wa to Stella wa
i would have been interested to hear if adding a trace mineral product to plants and native vegetation greatly impacts the nutrition value and mineral uptake of the native vegetation
Justin - we will talk to the experts, but fertilizing native vegetation is usually not a large enough scale option to have any measurable impact, specifically when passing through to deer
WE ARE Penn State!
How do you guys not have 100k plus subs???
Lol working on it, but that comment does put you up high in our favorite subscribers
@@HUNTRPOD hell yeah I'll take it lol. Honestly if there is anything I can do to help at all with anything you guys have going I'd be more then happy to help where I can I am not looking to make money I just love what you guys do. Also come hunt south east pa loads of big buck all over
would like to know if there has been any studies of the same buck and same doe breeding with eachother each year to see the offspring difference in antlers. i have seen several bucks that look like another buck i have seen in the past
I think Miss State has looked at some selection studies. I’ll dig it up
@@HUNTRPOD cool love the podcast. I live in western NY and love when i hear you guys say you cant shoot a big deer that's not there.
Great question
3 hrs?
I'm so glad he talked about genetics and buck dispersal. I've been going to school for this through QDMA and hate hearing about people culling bucks because its impossible to do in the wild. I done a video on a target buck we have been after ,116 inch 5 pointer that people wanted to kill because of bad genetics. He died of old age on our lease and I found him and you could see his skull got cracked right at the pedicle and caused it to grow weird. If he didn't have that messed up side he would have been 160 inch 8 point.
Man, very cool! Certainly eye opening to get the facts.
@@HUNTRPOD yes it is. Starting school made me realize how much bad information is pushed in the industry to make some $$$. I believe Dr Strickland is part of QDMA or atleast has received awards from them. Thats awesome having people like that on the podcast. Them are the people you want to soak up everything they say! Great content!
@@whitetailtherapy7908 thanks for listening! Marshall Johnson with the MDF is joining us next week to talk Dakota mule deer. Just in time since we just drew and are headed back this September!
@@HUNTRPOD That's awesome man I have always wanted to go hunt mule deer just always get so busy that out of state is never an option. You got a new subscriber and look forward to your next video!
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Made it back to this one...freaking awesome podcast!
Lots of knowledge bombs in there
Most of East Texas has antler restrictions, but we can kill two bucks - either 13 inch inside spread or better AND/OR a spike (any buck with at least one non-forked antler - and Texas Parks and Wildlife says anything at-to-outside the ears is 13 inches), and another of either in another two-buck county, and it has clearly worked with overall populations. I think a lot of it has also been the die out of generational poachers and lower number of overall tag buys/punches. There are still some new-gen poachers out there - and night vision/thermal imaging has changed that game - but it's much less than it was 20 years ago when it was about horns when it was a boss, but about meat most of the time and happening year-round.
2:09:35 literally cool, but not good. Lol. and I suspect y'all are about to talk about mineral sites and why we shouldn't do them in the soil in the southern climates - bacteria, viral diseases, parasites, etc.. spread from deer to deer in these spots, but my counter argument would be 'what about licking branches and orbital glands?' Dr. Higginbotham suggested, at least for internal parasites, cutting a 55 gallon drum in half and making a framed trough with a slanted roof - the trick is making the braces for the cover open for all deer to look through but also wide and tall enough for the biggest antlered buck to get in and out. The parasite problem is related to die off during winter in northern states compared to southern climates, but this could be an expanding problem due to climactic changes that are very evident over the last decade at certain latitudinal lines. Super cool topics and guest on this one guys, and it's awesome that you are all literally scientists about this stuff.
Doe comes in heat same time each year?
Yes, a doe will usually come into estrous about the same time each year across most of the whitetail range
As to food plots I have to strongly agree with Jeff. Planting each plot different limits stand locations at a given time and stresses the deer herd. Especially because i don't think Dr. Strickland is thinking in the same size of land as Jeff. He is working with alot of smaller properties, while in my opinion Dr. Strickland is thinking of larger properties. I could be wrong on that one though. To stir the pot a little more id say I have a hard time not believing in what guys like Jeff and Ben say when you look at their long term success.
It’s one of those things we always are confused by! Seems like a variety would be better, but until you try it on your own place, it’s hard to go one way or the other
Exciting stuff guys....and your take from 2:39:35 to 2:41:40 is spot on...100% agree. Information may upset the apple cart as product peddlers go, but science-based methods are the way forward not only for strategy but for sustainability and creating the healthiest publicly managed herds with the most sporting potential/promise.
We aren’t here to make product peddlers happy, just to state our opinions and talk what we love…deer!
Do you want to grow deer or do you want to hunt deer is what I'm hearing To help influence the Earth you want to go as healthy as possible
Bow feet
Contaminated deer feeder/mineral sites seem to be something that endangers deer health, the site is shared by other animals and species
Antler restrictions allow a deer to mature and acquire survival instincts to live to potential trophy
Exactly Casey, better to have them then not at all
I live in wake county outside of Raleigh N.C. And I am 44 years old and I killed my first buck at 13 years old that was scored at NC DIXIE DEER CLASSIC 146 5/8 and my 10 point 21 inside spread won the biggest buck in NC by youth and I have plaque to prove it & it’s recorded and I was in news & observer & Gold leaf farmer news papers front page , So it was a big moment for me ! I killed the deer with a broken arm and a Browning pump shotgun my mom won in a raffle at her job & I had to switch hands to pump a shell into chamber and only 2 buckshot balls hit the deer and one in heart and one in his nose ! 😂 I was and am a proud hunter , I’ve killed 5 pope & young’s off my farm off the only standing cypress swamp in NC called BUFFALO CREEK & every deer was harvested within a mile of my home and I know there’s Boone & Crockets in wake county but they are far and few between ! I still hunt knowing I will probably never kill a bigger buck than I have here in my county of wake but I still hope and try lol😂 … I know there were no coyotes or turkeys and few sightings of bears but somehow now there’s turkeys that come threw 20 deep at a time and coyotes are here and bears have migrated here so things are definitely changing from when I killed my first buck in 1993 …
Contaminated feeder/mineral sites concerning
If you want to kill deer just drive your car fast down Country roads at night .. There are many kamikaze deer out there that will jump in front of your car or Motorcycle ..
Riiiiight
You “harvest” crops, not deer. Say “kill” like you aren’t ashamed of it.
Nope I see at lest 2 a year like that