I’ve been on trt for about 15 years and out of those 15 years I used and estrogen blocker for about a month. You don’t need it. If you’re estrogen is too high then you need to lower your test dose. It’s as simple as that. Estrogen is very cardiovascular protective. Good for libido and brain function. And do yourself and your muscles a favor and get some 1/2 inch 27 gauge insulin syringes. You don’t need those big long needles for your injections. Good luck.
So I’m supposed to lower my test… which is already low… which is leading to negative side effects.. but I can’t ever get relief of those side effects because I can’t have a test dose that would benefit me? No offense but this is why I trust doctors. I need a test dose that will raise my test level… because lowering it will keep it low and not normal. There’s nothing wrong with an estrogen blocker because it’s not eliminating all levels of estrogen. I’m at a healthy level and it’s working just fine.
@Modern Man TV just from that comment I can see you would benefit from learning more yourself. I won't argue with you, just encourage you to do your own research
@@technobeatzidfd7207 of course I do! I think it’s appearing like we all need some sort of education because all I’m seeing is a lot of guys who are on different regiments telling men like me that they are wrong because they aren’t on the same treatment plan they are.
@@MMTV I dont understand these guys because they should know better. They should know that not everybody reacts the same to the same doses. Person with already good genetics will react better and need a lower dose.
@@outlander234 I think part of it is me not explaining things well and possibly making folks think I’m not doing things that I’m doing so it probably falls on me to an extent, but the other part definitely seems to be folks just wanting everyone to be on the regimen they are on.
You probably wouldn't need the Estrogen blocker if you were doing more frequent injections (even daily) not changing your overall dose per week, but breaking it up into much more frequent shots helps regulate your test and estrogen levels better according to the research I've done. Think about what happens naturally. Your testes do not blast once a week and then shut down, they produce a small amount every day in a pulse. Just food for thought.
I don't mind taking the estrogen blocker. it doesn't cause me any side effects and keeps my estrogen in the normal range and I don't have to worry about it. I also don't really want to take these shots daily, that would be annoying haha. 2 per week is good for me.
Also, the HCG and the replacement clomid are both known more often than testosterone to increase your estrogen. Aromatase inhibitors are fine if needed. If needed, meaning you're actually having issues from your estrogen that changing your dosage and frequency can't resolve. And as long as you're not getting your estrogen 20 or lower because that's definitely not healthy
@@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS I want to say they keep me at 25? I know it’s not below 20 because once I remember I tested at 18 and they adjusted my dose and told me it needed to come up.
@@MMTV Time way you feel at a certain number is unique to you, do no exact number just like testosterone. Id personally like to see it over 30 if possible because estrogen is so important. I'm glad you are at 25 and not lower and that you feel good
One thing I’ve learned there isn’t a right or wrong way to do TRT, you have to try different ways to see what works best for you. I love hearing how everyone takes it and there results. Do what makes you feel best.
A channel id recommend watching is trt & hormone optimization, watch all the vids they have on estrogen blockers. Estrogen is cardio protective and has many benefits for men, E blockers make your bones week and brittle and is very unhealthy for your brain, heart, and the rest of your cv system, it was originally used for women with breast cancer. Clomid can effect your vision and can cause irreversible damage to your eyes so just be aware of that. please research this stuff before you just through it into your body. there are alot of people with e2 above 80 and they haven't felt better and gyno is from an imbalance of hormones in the body and not from estrogen alone, people have had gyno with E2 in the gutter. hopefully this helps you a little bit or encourages you to learn and do some research on this stuff.
Hey there! Yes there’s so much out there! Lots of info and lots of different meds. This is why I prefer to just goto a doc and let them come up with the treatment plan and I just follow it. They check my estrogen every 4 weeks just like my T levels and they know how much of each thing to give me to keep things in check.
@@MMTV I agree with shaboobala. there are alot of men's clinics out there that put people on bad protocols, it is your health not there's do your research!
Hi there! I really appreciate the advice, I think there’s so much stigma around this subject so having men support other men is what we all need right now! I agree about doing research, and that research is what led me to the clinic I’m at now. I went to a consultation at one and it had so many red flags it was really concerning actually, but I’m glad I went because it led me to the clinic I’m at now, and things have gotten so much better in the couple years I been going.
Did you actually experience symptoms of high estrogen? I recommend not taking an estrogen blocker as they are pretty bad for your health and contrary to popular belief, it’s good to have moderate levels of estrogen.
Hi there! Yes I had a few of the symptoms, mostly some of the light symptoms. Like I explained in this vid, I get blood work done every month by the doc and they have a scale showing where my estrogen should be. Without the estrogen blocker, I would be too high on that scale- so I have to take a dose 3x a week to remain in the normal range. If my blood work shows my estrogen is ever too low- then they adjust my dose to let it raise, but I don’t let it get higher than the normal range for me.
@@ghop9272 you are correct- this is why I’m on them now. I had minor symptoms prior and still get them now actually if my dose isn’t correct. My test dose and estrogen blocker doses are adjusted sometimes monthly depending on my levels.
thanks for watching my video and commenting today! I actually do 2 shots a week and you are correct, since doing that (im about 2 years into split dosing as of now approx.) I have had more steady levels. I still occasionally dip and spike, but overall you are correct to say the levels are more steady that way.
@@kyjelly5524 I got to 1117 and didn't even know it, but zi noted I felt extra good that whole week. Ironically she dropped me down in dose, and I went up again to over 1200. I felt a lot better of course. Before 6 hours of work I had sore feet and back. Wanted to go home every day. Ar over a thousand I could work 12 hours a day, no hurting back or sore feet, and for a change I was actually recovering from work. I had to actually stop going to the gym prior to this, because I just wasn't recovering even a week later still sore from last weeks workout.
I think I would agree with that. I felt bad when I first started, but when the first doc I was with started trying things with me (like testosterone foam) and I began rising and dropping in my levels I felt even worse than before I started.
Good video man, the only thing I would say is maybe get a second opinion or just be careful. Many docs are turning away from the use or overuse of clomid and anastrozole. It could be the reason you have big gains and dips when you change test. dose slightly. Also, many say that as long as your estradiol rises parallel with your free T that its not a problem. Of course everything depends on how you feel and everyones different! Keep us updated
Hey there! This is solid advice! The clinic I’m at out is actually my third opinion. My first doc treated me for a bit and then sent me to a clinic, that clinic was fine but I just had a bad feeling in my gut about the lack of medical supervision. They basically send you 6 months worth of meds and a sheet telling you how much to take and then you see the doc every 6 months and it’s on you to stick to your regimen and dosage. I’m sure that works for some but I decided to go to a third place, where I’m at now (about 3 years now) and I see the doc once a week, and blood work every month.
@@MMTV nice man, yeah if it's working then more power to you, I'm just regurgitating what I've heard other trt docs say because I'm on it myself. I'm on test. Exclusively but looking for better results from other additional things, so just been doing a lot of research and trying to figure out what works!
@@infamous175 no you’re 100% right. I think the more info we get out there, the better we all are as a group. It’s crazy how many guys are dealing with this right now, I know I had zero knowledge when I first got diagnosed and I would have really felt better to have known there was places I could watch vids or read comments about guys going through this. I welcome any info you want to share or anyone’s opinion here. It’s better in the end for all of us.
You don’t need to be at 1000 total test. As long as your in the higher range and you feel good that should be sufficient. If you are having break outs lower your dose. Simple.
I rely on the professionals to determine the level im supposed to be at. They are doctors, they know more than me so if on their scale im supposed to be at 1000, im going to trust that. And my breakouts usually come in when I get above 1000, at which case they lower my dose to accommodate for that.
@@MMTV very questionable some things these professionals do or say brother, trt is relatively new, I'd rather take some advice from guys doing this for about 10-15 years, and all these dudes that actualy use the test, say that injecting daily or every other day negates the needs for any Estrogen blocker(you dont want all your extrogen blocked) and you defininetly dont need 1k test, each body has a slightly diff threshold so when you get outbreaks you clearly need to slightly lower the dose. I genuinely understand you wanna follow the "professionals" advice to the dot but when ur clearly getting outbreaks and some easily negatable effects you dont just blindly take their advice, just like you don't just take the 5 covid shots just cause "experts" say you should! Think for yourself and adapt, please!
Everybody is different, even though if you use a low dose ans injection frequency is daily, you still can convert a lot of the testosterone to estrogen.
I'm in same boat. My test levels are below the lowest end of where they should be. Never taken test iny life used to work out, and swim alot but still low. Tired alot, even though I sleep well, low mood and the bedroom department for me is not so great. I'm excited to get on it after I've had my final test on my pancreas done.
I’m sorry to hear your experiencing that. I remember how bad it was for me back then and even still when I go through dip periods I am reminded. I hope you get on some treatment and begin feeling better soon!
@@MMTV I will get it eventually I have to do a pancreas test Tuesday and then wait for the super slow specialist to look at it and give me the green light to start. Super excited to get moving though and feel normal
I recently tried exercise, but for me that won't work, my testosterone is so low, work alone took all my energy. At the gym, it was taking me a week to heal up, so I had to stop. I get my first shot today, hope this fixes it.
@YSIB A few months,but I wasn't healing up, just work alone was keeping me broke down. I don't have years to screw around trying to fix it, tried that for years. I would end up fired for bot getting enough work done. You can't lose weight easily if you have low T and no energy. I can't starve myself and work hard too, and starving yourself just drops muscle the most, endless cycle for failure. I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks, only change was those shots.
@YSIB It is, well see where I'm at when they settle on my dosage. I still get 2 more before I get my test again, so that will be 3 weeks from now. But I feel like it could be better ar this point, but maybe it still hasn't built up fully in my system yet too. Current dosage is 140, initial was 200.
Man this dude makes trt sound like a nightmare..inconvenient to go to a clinic 2 and 3 times a week.most people do it at home and go every 3 to 6 month.Its so much more easier than it appears here lol
I don’t goto a clinic 2/3 times a week. I go once a week haha. I do the other shot at home. I also find it very simple as well- I’m sorry somehow I made it seem hard, I definitely don’t see it that way.
Your clinic should not be number focused as you describe. There’s no magic to “hitting 1000 or 1050”. You might need 1200 or 1300. You might do best with 900. The free testosterone levels are more important anyway.
I don’t think I did a great job of explaining things here, I might try and do another video to explain it better. They are shooting for that number I mentioned because that’s where they think I should be at, and when I’m at that number of 1000 I feel great. When I’m at 800 I feel terrible, when I’m at 1300 I feel great obviously, but I get terrible breakouts when I’m up that high- so 1000 seems to be the sweet spot.
9:10 Is that 1000 ng/dl on your trough day (lowest point)? If so, wow. In all my research I've never seen Doctors wanting to keep anyone that high. Usually 700-800 as a low point. But free T is what's important and they may be trying to get that right with the higher dosage if your SHBG is high. What range is your Free T sitting in? Do they check your SHBG and DHT levels? Thanks for sharing your story. I just started therapy this week and every bit of info helps fill in the big picture.
I honestly am not sure of the chart, I just know on their chart they tell me I need to be at 1000 and when I began treatment a couple years back I was as low as 80 and 130 on some tests. I have no idea if their chart matches up to other clinics or charts as I’ve heard different numbers tossed around. They usually adjust me if I go over 1000, I’ve been as high as 1300 on their chart before but the weird part is I’ll randomly drop or spike without changing dose. Still working on that one
Hi brother! I made a normal blood test and everything was normal,I told my doctor that I feel tired all the time,I don’t have good sleep,I don’t rest even if I sleep 8 hours,I don’t think good,I forget things,I feel like grandpa,I have no motivation to make anything,and I ask her to make me a testosterone or a hormone test,to see if everything is ok,and she told me you don’t need to you are young! 😮 I’m 29 now, the only problem I don’t have is erection,my erection is good,but I don’t have the feeling for like 2-3 weeks that I need sex,one day comes that I feel I want,and the nothing again…!!!! Do you may think I need some TRT???
@@MMTV Yes! I originally saw him and Jeff Nippard recommended in a thread on r/nattyorjuice about fitness CZcamsrs who were actually legit and not pumping insane amounts of roids into their bodies while trying to sell crappy supliments and workout programs. I haven't gone down the rabbit hole of testosterone building on either channel but Jeff's content is incredibly scientifically founded. ATM I've been watching more of Jeff's videos due to how digestible the content is.
While the video and effort are appreciated, you’re lacking a ton of information and not in a place I feel to make this and although you aren’t giving advice, you’re giving a lot of muddy information: 1. they gave you clomid since most states etc made HCG impossible to get. I suggest you research these things on your own to see the differences. 2. Also your wild highs and lows are likely because your weekly schedule is 2x a week. Split it to 3x a week. 3. Also also, you don’t need help injecting. And do your glute instead of delt. Bleeds less.
Hey there! So I’ve been meaning to make an update video- and you actually hit a lot of the points I wanted to make in that video: My variation in levels have been solved- not by going to 3x a week, but by changing the shot location to the glute. Since changing to the glute I’ve been steady all the way through for about 7 months ish. Also- I developed a very rare reaction to getting test in the shoulder- I have to look up what it’s called but what would happen is immediately after getting my T shot- I’d go into these coughing fits that would last for several minutes. Apparently 3% of TRT patients experience this? Either way- switching to the glute also fixed this. As far as the clomid goes- you are correct it’s because HCG is just impossible to get. I’ve went to 3 doctors however who all have agreed that the low dose of clomid I’m on isn’t doing me any harm and helping my body produce testosterone naturally, and not fully rely on the test shots- which I’m not a doctor myself, but that sounds ideal to me. Overall since making this video my levels have been really good! Finally been done with the rollercoaster I think.
@@MMTV hey hey… thanks for the reply. I didn’t want to sound mean. I got a channel, I know how toxic folks can be. I want you to research it… the reason they had you on HCG and now clomid isn’t for what you said. When you go off test or a SARM some men use clomid which is actually a female drug (SERM - estrogen monulator)… Anyhow HCG is good at helping fertility which because exogenous test crushes as LH and FSH is basically stopped on TRT. Now clomid can do that too, it helps push up LH and FSH… But to correct something- this is important my friend… It doesn’t help natural test production when you’re on TRT. You go on TRT and that’s it. You’re shut down. These compounds just nudge up LH and FSH which are part of the fertility cycle in men, and can help when NOT on outside sources if test to “reboot” the HPTA and get your natural production running again.
Dude you need to start pining sub q it's better than intra miscular..that's why your estrogen went too high if you did sun q you might not even need the other stuff
This video is from a long while back. I actually found out about 4-5 months ago that when I get my T shot in the shoulder- it causes a bad physical reaction (it didn’t at first, but later developed) so we moved it from the shoulder to the Glute, and after doing that my levels have been not only spot on- but they have remained stable, no more up and down. It’s insane the change it made.
@@MMTV much less sides and less painful to inject in the fat..I got adomin adomin love handle love handle and then start back over don't even feel it..intramuscular has became a thing of the past..sub que is also more bemneficial
@@justindover859 I believe it. Glute has been so much easier to manage since we changed. im never going back to the shoulder. im definitely never doing the thigh again- that was brutal.
@@MMTVomg hair on your shoulders? See, thats what I am scared about. I am supposed to start TRT monday (1st injection). I have NEVER been a hairy person, and I PREFER to keep it that way. I am scared to death i am gonna grow some monsterous hairy eyebrows and have to comb my shoulder hair (hehe I dont currently have shoulder hair). My total test was 402 but my free T was only 6.1 (normal range: 8.7-29) so i am definitely low on the free and not optimal on the total either. But I am def scared of hair growth. I think i am gonna start without the estrogen blocker and see how it goes before implementing that. Are yoy still on TRT?
Thanks for the opinion! I’m not choosing any medication myself, I’m following the regiment of a doctor who specializes in this type of care. They decide what medications will benefit me and the dosage etc. I will add too that the clinic I goto is my third opinion, meaning 2 other doctors diagnosed me as needing this treatment and offered a plan (of the same medications) but I chose this third clinic opinion based on the frequency of which they check levels.
@@joshuahaney1135 that’s about how long I got into it too! I think I’m closer to 3 years but things have gotten so much better for me- I hope they have for you too!
the Clomid may be for preservation of some fertility. I was offered this in order to maintain my fertility, until I clarified that we are expressly looking to avoid pregnancy at this time and for the foreseeable future, so the shutdown of fertility that TRT would cause is in fact a positive. We then narrowed it to once a week T only, since increased to twice a week. No Clomid, no HCG, nothing. Just the T.
@@sriig the way it was described to me when I first started was that the HCG was to encourage the body to produce natural testosterone, and not fully rely on the testosterone being introduced by the injections. They then switched to clomid later and explained that it is being used at a certain dosage for the same purpose. I will add to the point of fertility that it's true that it hurts it. My wife and I were trying to have a child a couple years back ( before I found out I had low T) and 6 months in to my treatment, we got pregnant with a beautiful little girl, who turns 2 this month!
can you tell us what's the main cause for this maybe it's genetic related or you hurt yourself by some wrong supplements or meds? I am asking to make sure that no one will do the same mistake again including me
The theory right now is genetics. A lot of people with Low T did nothing to get it, it just happens. Some people of course are exceptions to that but in my case my grandad lost his T early in life, I lost mine in my late 20’s and my middle brother just found out last week that his blood work shows he’s low now too. The theory is genetics for me, so no mistake on my part.
I had testicular torsion twice within a years time and my doc laughed when I told him what I was feeling and said it would go away. Recent blood work shows test at 150 below the low level. Says I'm fine. I just started my journey at 38 and am looking forward to it
Am injecting them by myself and the doc told me to put it in a down angle a bit and also there is a certain spot on the arm close to the shoulder where the needle will go in smooth and no pain nor blood.
Thanks for the comment! I’ll have my wife try the down angle next time for sure. You are right about the spot on the shoulder for sure, they all don’t bleed like that one I gave an example of haha every once in a while I get a bleeder.
@@mikeyoung1002 I used to do Glute injections but since they switched me to split dosing (2 shots a week) they have me doing alternating shoulder injections.
No I’m at a good one. Limitless male medical. I did a consult at one of the cookie cutter labs and it was really obvious. They want you to pay 5000.00 and they just send you a box of stuff and let you figure it out, and ask questions if you need and labs once every 6 months. Limitless works with insurance, let’s me see a doc every Tuesday, does draws once a month to check levels and make adjustments as needed.
With all due respect. You are going to a caveman clinic. They are way behind the modern methods of trt protocol. At least save yourself some discomfort and get some 27 or 29 gauge needles from Amazon.
Hey there! No disrespect taken. I’ve looked around here where I live and these guys seemed to have the best treatment options, with what I wanted- which was a lot of supervision so I’d always know I could talk to someone and see my levels when I want to. You’re also correct about the needles I’ve used 29 gauge before it’s much more comfortable than the 23 gauge ones I have now. I just take them cuz they come with the package and I don’t have to pay extra for them mostly now and also 29 gauge was a pain to draw the T out of the vial- stuff can be thick sometimes haha.
Last draw my hematocrit showed normal. And I haven’t donated blood in years honestly, I know it’s a good thing to do but I haven’t in a good long time if I’m being honest.
I’ve done some reading and talked to a couple docs and for the low dose I’m on there’s little risk. It also played a really good part in my wife and I conceiving our daughter!
Iam also taking testosterone 100/month 😅 my testosterone levels was very low that's why my doctor told me let's fix this otherwise low t will cause problems in future
if your test is raising, even with more often injections your estrogen is going to raise with it. Also I don't enjoy getting these shots haha, so 2 a week is good enough for me. I also like the fact that once a week I can get my shot in the clinic and have some facetime with my doc in case I'm having some side effects or feeling a certain way, I can have that addressed immediately and not have to wait weeks or months to do that. Plus they check my levels every 4 weeks too, so I always know where my levels are at.
@@MMTV oh you do two a week? That’s fine. I’m not saying two a week completely avoids but for some reason I thought you meant you were getting one big one instead of split. A lot of times with two a week they don’t need arimidex, it’s not a guarantee that as test raises so does estrogen. It’s individual dependent. It’s like hair loss conversion to dht sensitivity. I haven’t finished the video I apologize for commenting too soon.
@@MMTV tho there is a lot of info that daily insulin pin injections can even better eliminate estrogen side effects and more even levels than even 2 a week but that’s what I’m doing is 2. 100mg split 50mg every 3.5 days
@@dannydemonic4799 no worries at all I appreciate the discussion. My doc explained it to me that with my test raising from the shots, that estrogen raises with it so I apologize if that's incorrect, I assumed it was like that for everyone but that does make sense. And yes I do one on Tuesday and one on Friday's when I see the doc. I actually just got it adjusted too because my labs last week showed a 300 point drop again. super annoying.
Dude stay off the clomid. What is wrong with these clinics. Your body needs Estrogen for health reasons obviously. If you do take something take enclomiphene citrate once or max twice a week. 10 hour half-life. Clomid wil stop estrogen for 10 days or so. Also start Micro dosing at least twice a week
So taking an estrogen blocker doesn’t mean you are depriving yourself from estrogen. It means you are blocking the increased amounts of estrogen. My estrogen levels (among everything else) is checked once a month and my dosage of the blocker (clomid isn’t what they have on for estrogen at all) is adjusted so that I still have the healthy amount of estrogen I’m supposed to have. Also I believe in this video I said I’m on 2 shots a week.. that’s 2 small doses split up.
Watching the numbers makes no sense to me. I think the target would be where you feel the best. I think the clinics are in it for the money, and so they’ll keep messing with you ….messing with the numbers….. up down this that ….100-200ml a wk should be fine
It makes sense if you look at it as a two part thing- yes if it was just the numbers you’d be right. But if you look at it as- when I’m in between 800 and 1000 on their scale I feel great and lower than that I feel like crap, then it makes sense to test and make sure I’m within that range. It also is a safety thing because going too high can cause things like heart problems. It also let them know that I needed to split my dose. Testing the numbers showed them I spike for a day and then tank, so I have to get two shots a week.
TRT is by definition "replacement"...the idea is to just replace what your nuts used to make but don't anymore. Females trying to be men do take the same testosterone, but it's like taking steroids rather than replacing the natural production of testosterone in the body.
I don’t think so. The doc’s have things dialed in pretty good. The clomid helps me not rely soely on test shots and the anastrozole keeps my estrogen at a normal range. My levels have been really good and steady the last year or so.
I'm blind in one eye. Been all my life. When I try to trim my beard, I can never get it even. I have the hair cutter people trim it for me, it comes out much more even. Unfortunately I've been cursed with a heavy beard. So when I retired, I said enough of shaving every day for 40 years, I'm growing a bread I don't care if it makes me look like I'm 100 years old. I was so tired of scraping my face every day, that hurts.
I don’t think I’m misinformed. I think there’s a lot of “CZcams Doctors” who want everyone to do exactly what they do and if anyone else has a real doctor who is treating them- uh oh their wrong!
Don't get me wrong.. I really appreciate you sharing your story. I wish more people would, and I will share mine when I begin my process. But based on my extensive research, the clinic is overprescribing and overmanaging you as a patient. My advise is become more inquisitive and less trusting - they are a business and you are a customer - become an informed customer But thank you for sharing your story 💚
Is appreciate you as well. I think I need to do a better job of explaining where I’m at. I started at my regular doc, then moved to another clinic- didn’t like the way they ran their stuff, and moved to the clinic in at now. So this is my third opinion that I got on my treatment. I don’t think they are over prescribing because it makes sense when you look at it- these are the reasons you have low T, here’s why just using T injections don’t work and how we will fix it. And the monthly labs have actually worked out in my favor because they have caught other things that popped up that I would never have known about. I also don’t think my treatment route is for everyone that’s totally cool too- I think more guys should have this discussion, I know the clinic I goto is packed every time I go so it’s obvious a ton of men are dealing with this.
@@MMTV hi, what are some of the other things that have popped up that you wouldn’t have known about? I’m going through something similar. Haven’t been feeling great for a while. Got bloodwork done, all levels normal except low T (165). Got referred to endocrinologist. More bloodwork that shows pituitary not working properly and high levels of ACTH. I’ve have MRIs for hearing issues so he’s confident that I don’t have a pituitary tumour. He did say that sometimes doctors just don’t know why a pituitary doesn’t work properly. I am excited to start TRT because I’ve read about so many people who have had positive experiences. Thanks for posting your videos, it reallly helps people like me feel informed and not so alone in this journey. Hugs to you brother!
@@jonathanarciszewski8198 hey brother! First off I’m so glad to hear you don’t have a tumor. That’s great news! I think the biggest thing for me is I read a lot about TRT and how the male body works with testosterone, and how it impacts all other things. For example, estrogen rises as your testosterone rises, and in men you need a little estrogen, but too much can lead to issues. So someone with very low T needs to have that raised, but estrogen is naturally gonna raise with it! So the doc prescribed something to lower the estrogen back to the natural level. I also seem to see that no matter what regimen someone is on or what doctor or clinic they attend, there will be another guy saying “your wrong, your being over managed”- there’s always experts everywhere saying everything is wrong but I don’t care about that. I talked to 3 doctors and got all 3 opinions and then went with the one that aligned best with my goals. That would be the only advice to you, go talk to a few places including a dedicated TRT clinic. Just get a consultation and info session and then see what you think then!
I'm a pussy too. Lol my wife shoots my testosterone, needle is too big, but I am able to inject my gonadorelin in my stomach, insulin needle doesn't scare me, but the 25g testosterone needle creeps me out. Great video!
I wouldn’t go as far as to call either of us that lol but It is tough for me to inject that thing in my own shoulder. I tried it once and did too much of an angle and the thing dragged (dragged!) through my flesh inside my arm. Surprisingly enough too, the pain wasn’t terrible for that, it was the sound it made! Good god it made this like sandpaper on a side of beef noise and I still cringe when I even think of it. She has helped me ever since 😂😂
@@firstname2072 well I appreciate your opinion of course, but they are doctors- who went to medical school and after consulting 3 different clinics I liked the sound of what they were offering and so far it’s helped me achieve my goals.
I’ve been on trt for about 15 years and out of those 15 years I used and estrogen blocker for about a month. You don’t need it. If you’re estrogen is too high then you need to lower your test dose. It’s as simple as that. Estrogen is very cardiovascular protective. Good for libido and brain function. And do yourself and your muscles a favor and get some 1/2 inch 27 gauge insulin syringes. You don’t need those big long needles for your injections. Good luck.
So I’m supposed to lower my test… which is already low… which is leading to negative side effects.. but I can’t ever get relief of those side effects because I can’t have a test dose that would benefit me? No offense but this is why I trust doctors. I need a test dose that will raise my test level… because lowering it will keep it low and not normal. There’s nothing wrong with an estrogen blocker because it’s not eliminating all levels of estrogen. I’m at a healthy level and it’s working just fine.
@Modern Man TV just from that comment I can see you would benefit from learning more yourself. I won't argue with you, just encourage you to do your own research
@@technobeatzidfd7207 of course I do! I think it’s appearing like we all need some sort of education because all I’m seeing is a lot of guys who are on different regiments telling men like me that they are wrong because they aren’t on the same treatment plan they are.
@@MMTV I dont understand these guys because they should know better. They should know that not everybody reacts the same to the same doses. Person with already good genetics will react better and need a lower dose.
@@outlander234 I think part of it is me not explaining things well and possibly making folks think I’m not doing things that I’m doing so it probably falls on me to an extent, but the other part definitely seems to be folks just wanting everyone to be on the regimen they are on.
You probably wouldn't need the Estrogen blocker if you were doing more frequent injections (even daily) not changing your overall dose per week, but breaking it up into much more frequent shots helps regulate your test and estrogen levels better according to the research I've done. Think about what happens naturally. Your testes do not blast once a week and then shut down, they produce a small amount every day in a pulse. Just food for thought.
I don't mind taking the estrogen blocker. it doesn't cause me any side effects and keeps my estrogen in the normal range and I don't have to worry about it. I also don't really want to take these shots daily, that would be annoying haha. 2 per week is good for me.
Also, the HCG and the replacement clomid are both known more often than testosterone to increase your estrogen.
Aromatase inhibitors are fine if needed.
If needed, meaning you're actually having issues from your estrogen that changing your dosage and frequency can't resolve.
And as long as you're not getting your estrogen 20 or lower because that's definitely not healthy
@@MMTV how high is estrogen? And do you get tested before or right after your estrogen pill?
@@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS I want to say they keep me at 25? I know it’s not below 20 because once I remember I tested at 18 and they adjusted my dose and told me it needed to come up.
@@MMTV Time way you feel at a certain number is unique to you, do no exact number just like testosterone.
Id personally like to see it over 30 if possible because estrogen is so important.
I'm glad you are at 25 and not lower and that you feel good
One thing I’ve learned there isn’t a right or wrong way to do TRT, you have to try different ways to see what works best for you. I love hearing how everyone takes it and there results. Do what makes you feel best.
A channel id recommend watching is trt & hormone optimization, watch all the vids they have on estrogen blockers. Estrogen is cardio protective and has many benefits for men, E blockers make your bones week and brittle and is very unhealthy for your brain, heart, and the rest of your cv system, it was originally used for women with breast cancer. Clomid can effect your vision and can cause irreversible damage to your eyes so just be aware of that. please research this stuff before you just through it into your body. there are alot of people with e2 above 80 and they haven't felt better and gyno is from an imbalance of hormones in the body and not from estrogen alone, people have had gyno with E2 in the gutter. hopefully this helps you a little bit or encourages you to learn and do some research on this stuff.
Hey there! Yes there’s so much out there! Lots of info and lots of different meds. This is why I prefer to just goto a doc and let them come up with the treatment plan and I just follow it. They check my estrogen every 4 weeks just like my T levels and they know how much of each thing to give me to keep things in check.
@@MMTV I agree with shaboobala. there are alot of men's clinics out there that put people on bad protocols, it is your health not there's do your research!
Hi there! I really appreciate the advice, I think there’s so much stigma around this subject so having men support other men is what we all need right now! I agree about doing research, and that research is what led me to the clinic I’m at now. I went to a consultation at one and it had so many red flags it was really concerning actually, but I’m glad I went because it led me to the clinic I’m at now, and things have gotten so much better in the couple years I been going.
When you said 'One of the immediate changes I saw with my treatment: A baby!' Too funny. I'm glad you got treatments and am now a father !
Yeah it was kinda crazy but my little girls 3 now! So much fun
Did you actually experience symptoms of high estrogen? I recommend not taking an estrogen blocker as they are pretty bad for your health and contrary to popular belief, it’s good to have moderate levels of estrogen.
Hi there!
Yes I had a few of the symptoms, mostly some of the light symptoms. Like I explained in this vid, I get blood work done every month by the doc and they have a scale showing where my estrogen should be. Without the estrogen blocker, I would be too high on that scale- so I have to take a dose 3x a week to remain in the normal range. If my blood work shows my estrogen is ever too low- then they adjust my dose to let it raise, but I don’t let it get higher than the normal range for me.
In this case BALANCE is KEY 🔑.
Moderation in All levels is OPTIMAL.
Disclaimer : I’m not a health practitioner, and definitely not a Physician.
after taking trt your estrogen is going to be too high and you’ll start having negative symptoms
@@ghop9272 you are correct- this is why I’m on them now. I had minor symptoms prior and still get them now actually if my dose isn’t correct. My test dose and estrogen blocker doses are adjusted sometimes monthly depending on my levels.
Best thing is to pin yourself a couple times a week, way more steady levels.
thanks for watching my video and commenting today! I actually do 2 shots a week and you are correct, since doing that (im about 2 years into split dosing as of now approx.) I have had more steady levels. I still occasionally dip and spike, but overall you are correct to say the levels are more steady that way.
Total FREE Testosterone is the KEY 🔑
How many milligrams are you taking and which testosterone are you taking?
My clinic told me they would get me between 700 and 1000. I feel like 1000 is God mode at this point, I been at under 230 for years.
Your almost exactly like me. Your gonna feel so much better. Now you just need to remember who you are ;)
@@MMTV It was higher than I posted, 300 something, probably because my job I got now is hard work.
Did you start? How do you feel?
@@kyjelly5524 I got to 1117 and didn't even know it, but zi noted I felt extra good that whole week. Ironically she dropped me down in dose, and I went up again to over 1200.
I felt a lot better of course. Before 6 hours of work I had sore feet and back. Wanted to go home every day.
Ar over a thousand I could work 12 hours a day, no hurting back or sore feet, and for a change I was actually recovering from work.
I had to actually stop going to the gym prior to this, because I just wasn't recovering even a week later still sore from last weeks workout.
Many of the top TRT guys say the first things to look at over all the numbers is How You Feel first and foremost.
I think I would agree with that. I felt bad when I first started, but when the first doc I was with started trying things with me (like testosterone foam) and I began rising and dropping in my levels I felt even worse than before I started.
Good video man, the only thing I would say is maybe get a second opinion or just be careful. Many docs are turning away from the use or overuse of clomid and anastrozole. It could be the reason you have big gains and dips when you change test. dose slightly. Also, many say that as long as your estradiol rises parallel with your free T that its not a problem. Of course everything depends on how you feel and everyones different! Keep us updated
Hey there! This is solid advice! The clinic I’m at out is actually my third opinion. My first doc treated me for a bit and then sent me to a clinic, that clinic was fine but I just had a bad feeling in my gut about the lack of medical supervision. They basically send you 6 months worth of meds and a sheet telling you how much to take and then you see the doc every 6 months and it’s on you to stick to your regimen and dosage. I’m sure that works for some but I decided to go to a third place, where I’m at now (about 3 years now) and I see the doc once a week, and blood work every month.
@@MMTV nice man, yeah if it's working then more power to you, I'm just regurgitating what I've heard other trt docs say because I'm on it myself. I'm on test. Exclusively but looking for better results from other additional things, so just been doing a lot of research and trying to figure out what works!
@@infamous175 no you’re 100% right. I think the more info we get out there, the better we all are as a group. It’s crazy how many guys are dealing with this right now, I know I had zero knowledge when I first got diagnosed and I would have really felt better to have known there was places I could watch vids or read comments about guys going through this. I welcome any info you want to share or anyone’s opinion here. It’s better in the end for all of us.
You don’t need to be at 1000 total test. As long as your in the higher range and you feel good that should be sufficient. If you are having break outs lower your dose. Simple.
I rely on the professionals to determine the level im supposed to be at. They are doctors, they know more than me so if on their scale im supposed to be at 1000, im going to trust that. And my breakouts usually come in when I get above 1000, at which case they lower my dose to accommodate for that.
@@MMTV very questionable some things these professionals do or say brother, trt is relatively new, I'd rather take some advice from guys doing this for about 10-15 years, and all these dudes that actualy use the test, say that injecting daily or every other day negates the needs for any Estrogen blocker(you dont want all your extrogen blocked) and you defininetly dont need 1k test, each body has a slightly diff threshold so when you get outbreaks you clearly need to slightly lower the dose. I genuinely understand you wanna follow the "professionals" advice to the dot but when ur clearly getting outbreaks and some easily negatable effects you dont just blindly take their advice, just like you don't just take the 5 covid shots just cause "experts" say you should! Think for yourself and adapt, please!
Everybody is different, even though if you use a low dose ans injection frequency is daily, you still can convert a lot of the testosterone to estrogen.
It shouldn't bleed, you need to asperate the shot, you want the drug to be intermuscular and not in the vein (blood stream).
Since making this video I no longer do the shots in my shoulder- much better experience
I'm in same boat. My test levels are below the lowest end of where they should be. Never taken test iny life used to work out, and swim alot but still low. Tired alot, even though I sleep well, low mood and the bedroom department for me is not so great. I'm excited to get on it after I've had my final test on my pancreas done.
I’m sorry to hear your experiencing that. I remember how bad it was for me back then and even still when I go through dip periods I am reminded. I hope you get on some treatment and begin feeling better soon!
@@MMTV I will get it eventually I have to do a pancreas test Tuesday and then wait for the super slow specialist to look at it and give me the green light to start. Super excited to get moving though and feel normal
I recently tried exercise, but for me that won't work, my testosterone is so low, work alone took all my energy.
At the gym, it was taking me a week to heal up, so I had to stop.
I get my first shot today, hope this fixes it.
@YSIB A few months,but I wasn't healing up, just work alone was keeping me broke down. I don't have years to screw around trying to fix it, tried that for years. I would end up fired for bot getting enough work done. You can't lose weight easily if you have low T and no energy. I can't starve myself and work hard too, and starving yourself just drops muscle the most, endless cycle for failure.
I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks, only change was those shots.
@YSIB It is, well see where I'm at when they settle on my dosage. I still get 2 more before I get my test again, so that will be 3 weeks from now.
But I feel like it could be better ar this point, but maybe it still hasn't built up fully in my system yet too.
Current dosage is 140, initial was 200.
How's it going?
@@TDR85 It was going good till I got laid off at work, now I only get a shot every few weeks.
@@jasonbourne1596 oh man I'm sorry to hear that!
Man this dude makes trt sound like a nightmare..inconvenient to go to a clinic 2 and 3 times a week.most people do it at home and go every 3 to 6 month.Its so much more easier than it appears here lol
I don’t goto a clinic 2/3 times a week. I go once a week haha. I do the other shot at home. I also find it very simple as well- I’m sorry somehow I made it seem hard, I definitely don’t see it that way.
Your clinic should not be number focused as you describe. There’s no magic to “hitting 1000 or 1050”. You might need 1200 or 1300. You might do best with 900. The free testosterone levels are more important anyway.
I don’t think I did a great job of explaining things here, I might try and do another video to explain it better. They are shooting for that number I mentioned because that’s where they think I should be at, and when I’m at that number of 1000 I feel great. When I’m at 800 I feel terrible, when I’m at 1300 I feel great obviously, but I get terrible breakouts when I’m up that high- so 1000 seems to be the sweet spot.
9:10 Is that 1000 ng/dl on your trough day (lowest point)? If so, wow. In all my research I've never seen Doctors wanting to keep anyone that high. Usually 700-800 as a low point. But free T is what's important and they may be trying to get that right with the higher dosage if your SHBG is high. What range is your Free T sitting in? Do they check your SHBG and DHT levels? Thanks for sharing your story. I just started therapy this week and every bit of info helps fill in the big picture.
I honestly am not sure of the chart, I just know on their chart they tell me I need to be at 1000 and when I began treatment a couple years back I was as low as 80 and 130 on some tests. I have no idea if their chart matches up to other clinics or charts as I’ve heard different numbers tossed around. They usually adjust me if I go over 1000, I’ve been as high as 1300 on their chart before but the weird part is I’ll randomly drop or spike without changing dose. Still working on that one
Hi brother! I made a normal blood test and everything was normal,I told my doctor that I feel tired all the time,I don’t have good sleep,I don’t rest even if I sleep 8 hours,I don’t think good,I forget things,I feel like grandpa,I have no motivation to make anything,and I ask her to make me a testosterone or a hormone test,to see if everything is ok,and she told me you don’t need to you are young! 😮 I’m 29 now, the only problem I don’t have is erection,my erection is good,but I don’t have the feeling for like 2-3 weeks that I need sex,one day comes that I feel I want,and the nothing again…!!!! Do you may think I need some TRT???
Yes, probably so
Watch more plates more dates
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I've heard good things about him. Still need to check him out
@@ransomkirk9676 oh it’s a channel? I was so confused lol
@@MMTV Yes! I originally saw him and Jeff Nippard recommended in a thread on r/nattyorjuice about fitness CZcamsrs who were actually legit and not pumping insane amounts of roids into their bodies while trying to sell crappy supliments and workout programs.
I haven't gone down the rabbit hole of testosterone building on either channel but Jeff's content is incredibly scientifically founded. ATM I've been watching more of Jeff's videos due to how digestible the content is.
Derek has some of the best info on CZcams. I also like TRT nation as they have good discussions on there as well.
What is the monthly cost of your treatment?
After insurance it’s about 150 a month
While the video and effort are appreciated, you’re lacking a ton of information and not in a place I feel to make this and although you aren’t giving advice, you’re giving a lot of muddy information:
1. they gave you clomid since most states etc made HCG impossible to get. I suggest you research these things on your own to see the differences.
2. Also your wild highs and lows are likely because your weekly schedule is 2x a week. Split it to 3x a week.
3. Also also, you don’t need help injecting. And do your glute instead of delt. Bleeds less.
Hey there! So I’ve been meaning to make an update video- and you actually hit a lot of the points I wanted to make in that video:
My variation in levels have been solved- not by going to 3x a week, but by changing the shot location to the glute.
Since changing to the glute I’ve been steady all the way through for about 7 months ish.
Also- I developed a very rare reaction to getting test in the shoulder- I have to look up what it’s called but what would happen is immediately after getting my T shot- I’d go into these coughing fits that would last for several minutes. Apparently 3% of TRT patients experience this? Either way- switching to the glute also fixed this.
As far as the clomid goes- you are correct it’s because HCG is just impossible to get. I’ve went to 3 doctors however who all have agreed that the low dose of clomid I’m on isn’t doing me any harm and helping my body produce testosterone naturally, and not fully rely on the test shots- which I’m not a doctor myself, but that sounds ideal to me.
Overall since making this video my levels have been really good! Finally been done with the rollercoaster I think.
@@MMTV hey hey… thanks for the reply. I didn’t want to sound mean. I got a channel, I know how toxic folks can be.
I want you to research it… the reason they had you on HCG and now clomid isn’t for what you said.
When you go off test or a SARM some men use clomid which is actually a female drug (SERM - estrogen monulator)…
Anyhow HCG is good at helping fertility which because exogenous test crushes as LH and FSH is basically stopped on TRT.
Now clomid can do that too, it helps push up LH and FSH…
But to correct something- this is important my friend…
It doesn’t help natural test production when you’re on TRT.
You go on TRT and that’s it. You’re shut down. These compounds just nudge up LH and FSH which are part of the fertility cycle in men, and can help when NOT on outside sources if test to “reboot” the HPTA and get your natural production running again.
Dude you need to start pining sub q it's better than intra miscular..that's why your estrogen went too high if you did sun q you might not even need the other stuff
This video is from a long while back. I actually found out about 4-5 months ago that when I get my T shot in the shoulder- it causes a bad physical reaction (it didn’t at first, but later developed) so we moved it from the shoulder to the Glute, and after doing that my levels have been not only spot on- but they have remained stable, no more up and down. It’s insane the change it made.
@@MMTV much less sides and less painful to inject in the fat..I got adomin adomin love handle love handle and then start back over don't even feel it..intramuscular has became a thing of the past..sub que is also more bemneficial
@@justindover859 I believe it. Glute has been so much easier to manage since we changed. im never going back to the shoulder. im definitely never doing the thigh again- that was brutal.
I think you went to my high school .. weird.
Am out to jump on TRT myself... saw this video and you look familiar as hell.
Bellevue W?
Hey there! Yep that’s where I went! Small world
What’s your name? If you’d like to email me about TRT your more than welcome to, I can share where I go to get my treatment
Definitely a deeper voice compared to the first video!
I feel like I almost went through another puberty LOL I got hair on my shoulders 😂
@@MMTVomg hair on your shoulders? See, thats what I am scared about. I am supposed to start TRT monday (1st injection). I have NEVER been a hairy person, and I PREFER to keep it that way. I am scared to death i am gonna grow some monsterous hairy eyebrows and have to comb my shoulder hair (hehe I dont currently have shoulder hair). My total test was 402 but my free T was only 6.1 (normal range: 8.7-29) so i am definitely low on the free and not optimal on the total either. But I am def scared of hair growth. I think i am gonna start without the estrogen blocker and see how it goes before implementing that. Are yoy still on TRT?
@@Ghetto-toaster22 I mean it evens out- I think it’s not too crazy now. I’m sure you will be fine :)
Hello, a question: do you also take thyroid medication? Thanks
Hi there! No currently I don’t. My thyroid is checked every month and has always shown to be in good standing
You don’t need a AI.
Thanks for the opinion! I’m not choosing any medication myself, I’m following the regiment of a doctor who specializes in this type of care. They decide what medications will benefit me and the dosage etc. I will add too that the clinic I goto is my third opinion, meaning 2 other doctors diagnosed me as needing this treatment and offered a plan (of the same medications) but I chose this third clinic opinion based on the frequency of which they check levels.
@@MMTV I’m on TRT as well. About two years now
@@joshuahaney1135 that’s about how long I got into it too! I think I’m closer to 3 years but things have gotten so much better for me- I hope they have for you too!
the Clomid may be for preservation of some fertility. I was offered this in order to maintain my fertility, until I clarified that we are expressly looking to avoid pregnancy at this time and for the foreseeable future, so the shutdown of fertility that TRT would cause is in fact a positive. We then narrowed it to once a week T only, since increased to twice a week. No Clomid, no HCG, nothing. Just the T.
@@sriig the way it was described to me when I first started was that the HCG was to encourage the body to produce natural testosterone, and not fully rely on the testosterone being introduced by the injections. They then switched to clomid later and explained that it is being used at a certain dosage for the same purpose. I will add to the point of fertility that it's true that it hurts it. My wife and I were trying to have a child a couple years back ( before I found out I had low T) and 6 months in to my treatment, we got pregnant with a beautiful little girl, who turns 2 this month!
can you tell us what's the main cause for this maybe it's genetic related or you hurt yourself by some wrong supplements or meds?
I am asking to make sure that no one will do the same mistake again including me
The theory right now is genetics. A lot of people with Low T did nothing to get it, it just happens. Some people of course are exceptions to that but in my case my grandad lost his T early in life, I lost mine in my late 20’s and my middle brother just found out last week that his blood work shows he’s low now too. The theory is genetics for me, so no mistake on my part.
I had testicular torsion twice within a years time and my doc laughed when I told him what I was feeling and said it would go away. Recent blood work shows test at 150 below the low level. Says I'm fine. I just started my journey at 38 and am looking forward to it
@@seanhollenback4617 Hope it works out good for you and you feel a lot better with your treatments.
Am injecting them by myself and the doc told me to put it in a down angle a bit and also there is a certain spot on the arm close to the shoulder where the needle will go in smooth and no pain nor blood.
Thanks for the comment! I’ll have my wife try the down angle next time for sure. You are right about the spot on the shoulder for sure, they all don’t bleed like that one I gave an example of haha every once in a while I get a bleeder.
Glute injections are the best absorbed and quicker results ; relief !
@@mikeyoung1002 I used to do Glute injections but since they switched me to split dosing (2 shots a week) they have me doing alternating shoulder injections.
Bro, you're at the wrong clinic. Sounds like you go to a cookie cutter lab. Find a real TRT clinic like Elevate men's clinic.
No I’m at a good one. Limitless male medical. I did a consult at one of the cookie cutter labs and it was really obvious. They want you to pay 5000.00 and they just send you a box of stuff and let you figure it out, and ask questions if you need and labs once every 6 months.
Limitless works with insurance, let’s me see a doc every Tuesday, does draws once a month to check levels and make adjustments as needed.
Do you think i have it? I have low energy
I don’t believe it’s possible to tell without a blood test.
how low?
With all due respect. You are going to a caveman clinic. They are way behind the modern methods of trt protocol. At least save yourself some discomfort and get some 27 or 29 gauge needles from Amazon.
Hey there! No disrespect taken. I’ve looked around here where I live and these guys seemed to have the best treatment options, with what I wanted- which was a lot of supervision so I’d always know I could talk to someone and see my levels when I want to. You’re also correct about the needles I’ve used 29 gauge before it’s much more comfortable than the 23 gauge ones I have now. I just take them cuz they come with the package and I don’t have to pay extra for them mostly now and also 29 gauge was a pain to draw the T out of the vial- stuff can be thick sometimes haha.
How’s your hematocrit? And do you donate blood?
Last draw my hematocrit showed normal. And I haven’t donated blood in years honestly, I know it’s a good thing to do but I haven’t in a good long time if I’m being honest.
Do studies on Clomid I'm no Doctor either
I’ve done some reading and talked to a couple docs and for the low dose I’m on there’s little risk. It also played a really good part in my wife and I conceiving our daughter!
Iam also taking testosterone 100/month 😅 my testosterone levels was very low that's why my doctor told me let's fix this otherwise low t will cause problems in future
I’m glad your doc is treating you! I hope you start to feel better really soon 👍
Much better to do at home injections so you can do it more often and avoid having to use an aromatase inhibitor,
if your test is raising, even with more often injections your estrogen is going to raise with it. Also I don't enjoy getting these shots haha, so 2 a week is good enough for me. I also like the fact that once a week I can get my shot in the clinic and have some facetime with my doc in case I'm having some side effects or feeling a certain way, I can have that addressed immediately and not have to wait weeks or months to do that. Plus they check my levels every 4 weeks too, so I always know where my levels are at.
@@MMTV oh you do two a week? That’s fine. I’m not saying two a week completely avoids but for some reason I thought you meant you were getting one big one instead of split. A lot of times with two a week they don’t need arimidex, it’s not a guarantee that as test raises so does estrogen. It’s individual dependent. It’s like hair loss conversion to dht sensitivity. I haven’t finished the video I apologize for commenting too soon.
@@MMTV tho there is a lot of info that daily insulin pin injections can even better eliminate estrogen side effects and more even levels than even 2 a week but that’s what I’m doing is 2. 100mg split 50mg every 3.5 days
@@dannydemonic4799 no worries at all I appreciate the discussion. My doc explained it to me that with my test raising from the shots, that estrogen raises with it so I apologize if that's incorrect, I assumed it was like that for everyone but that does make sense. And yes I do one on Tuesday and one on Friday's when I see the doc. I actually just got it adjusted too because my labs last week showed a 300 point drop again. super annoying.
Clinic you use?
I goto limitless male medical
Dude stay off the clomid. What is wrong with these clinics. Your body needs Estrogen for health reasons obviously. If you do take something take enclomiphene citrate once or max twice a week. 10 hour half-life. Clomid wil stop estrogen for 10 days or so. Also start Micro dosing at least twice a week
So taking an estrogen blocker doesn’t mean you are depriving yourself from estrogen. It means you are blocking the increased amounts of estrogen. My estrogen levels (among everything else) is checked once a month and my dosage of the blocker (clomid isn’t what they have on for estrogen at all) is adjusted so that I still have the healthy amount of estrogen I’m supposed to have. Also I believe in this video I said I’m on 2 shots a week.. that’s 2 small doses split up.
Watching the numbers makes no sense to me. I think the target would be where you feel the best. I think the clinics are in it for the money, and so they’ll keep messing with you ….messing with the numbers….. up down this that ….100-200ml a wk should be fine
It makes sense if you look at it as a two part thing- yes if it was just the numbers you’d be right. But if you look at it as- when I’m in between 800 and 1000 on their scale I feel great and lower than that I feel like crap, then it makes sense to test and make sure I’m within that range. It also is a safety thing because going too high can cause things like heart problems. It also let them know that I needed to split my dose. Testing the numbers showed them I spike for a day and then tank, so I have to get two shots a week.
How much Does all this cost
I have some covered my medical insurance so I pay 150 a month for it.
Do females that transition to men take TRT?
TRT is by definition "replacement"...the idea is to just replace what your nuts used to make but don't anymore. Females trying to be men do take the same testosterone, but it's like taking steroids rather than replacing the natural production of testosterone in the body.
6 dose's a week?
No I do 2
Clomid and Arimidex?? that's too much bro
I don’t think so. The doc’s have things dialed in pretty good. The clomid helps me not rely soely on test shots and the anastrozole keeps my estrogen at a normal range. My levels have been really good and steady the last year or so.
Maybe it'll help with your beard too. Your thicker on the left than you are on the right.
I’d love that. Genetics really screwed me in the beard area.
I'm blind in one eye. Been all my life. When I try to trim my beard, I can never get it even. I have the hair cutter people trim it for me, it comes out much more even. Unfortunately I've been cursed with a heavy beard. So when I retired, I said enough of shaving every day for 40 years, I'm growing a bread I don't care if it makes me look like I'm 100 years old. I was so tired of scraping my face every day, that hurts.
Clearly misinformed...such a shame
I don’t think I’m misinformed. I think there’s a lot of “CZcams Doctors” who want everyone to do exactly what they do and if anyone else has a real doctor who is treating them- uh oh their wrong!
Sound like you're taken for a ride...
No.. it sounds like i finally got some treatment and have been finally feeling better!
Don't get me wrong.. I really appreciate you sharing your story. I wish more people would, and I will share mine when I begin my process. But based on my extensive research, the clinic is overprescribing and overmanaging you as a patient.
My advise is become more inquisitive and less trusting - they are a business and you are a customer - become an informed customer
But thank you for sharing your story 💚
Is appreciate you as well. I think I need to do a better job of explaining where I’m at. I started at my regular doc, then moved to another clinic- didn’t like the way they ran their stuff, and moved to the clinic in at now. So this is my third opinion that I got on my treatment. I don’t think they are over prescribing because it makes sense when you look at it- these are the reasons you have low T, here’s why just using T injections don’t work and how we will fix it. And the monthly labs have actually worked out in my favor because they have caught other things that popped up that I would never have known about. I also don’t think my treatment route is for everyone that’s totally cool too- I think more guys should have this discussion, I know the clinic I goto is packed every time I go so it’s obvious a ton of men are dealing with this.
@@MMTV hi, what are some of the other things that have popped up that you wouldn’t have known about? I’m going through something similar. Haven’t been feeling great for a while. Got bloodwork done, all levels normal except low T (165). Got referred to endocrinologist. More bloodwork that shows pituitary not working properly and high levels of ACTH. I’ve have MRIs for hearing issues so he’s confident that I don’t have a pituitary tumour. He did say that sometimes doctors just don’t know why a pituitary doesn’t work properly. I am excited to start TRT because I’ve read about so many people who have had positive experiences. Thanks for posting your videos, it reallly helps people like me feel informed and not so alone in this journey. Hugs to you brother!
@@jonathanarciszewski8198 hey brother! First off I’m so glad to hear you don’t have a tumor. That’s great news! I think the biggest thing for me is I read a lot about TRT and how the male body works with testosterone, and how it impacts all other things. For example, estrogen rises as your testosterone rises, and in men you need a little estrogen, but too much can lead to issues. So someone with very low T needs to have that raised, but estrogen is naturally gonna raise with it! So the doc prescribed something to lower the estrogen back to the natural level. I also seem to see that no matter what regimen someone is on or what doctor or clinic they attend, there will be another guy saying “your wrong, your being over managed”- there’s always experts everywhere saying everything is wrong but I don’t care about that. I talked to 3 doctors and got all 3 opinions and then went with the one that aligned best with my goals. That would be the only advice to you, go talk to a few places including a dedicated TRT clinic. Just get a consultation and info session and then see what you think then!
I'm a pussy too. Lol my wife shoots my testosterone, needle is too big, but I am able to inject my gonadorelin in my stomach, insulin needle doesn't scare me, but the 25g testosterone needle creeps me out. Great video!
I wouldn’t go as far as to call either of us that lol but It is tough for me to inject that thing in my own shoulder. I tried it once and did too much of an angle and the thing dragged (dragged!) through my flesh inside my arm. Surprisingly enough too, the pain wasn’t terrible for that, it was the sound it made! Good god it made this like sandpaper on a side of beef noise and I still cringe when I even think of it. She has helped me ever since 😂😂
I genuinely don't know any experienced trt docs prescribing Clomid over HCG
I know some! Haha
You definitely need a new clinic, sounds terrible
Never felt better actually
@@MMTV maybe so but their knowledge of Trt from what you said is poor.
@@firstname2072 well I appreciate your opinion of course, but they are doctors- who went to medical school and after consulting 3 different clinics I liked the sound of what they were offering and so far it’s helped me achieve my goals.
@@MMTV same
F the clinic! Haven't you heard?!