I just now realised "picking up the sheriff's gun makes you sheriff" had happened several times. I didn't connect that Alan picked up Casey's gun the way Jesse picked up Trench's
RE: "My motorcycle is also a werewolf." When you meet the bad boy down at the beach, and he says "me and my motorcycle were just enjoying the view", you think it's just a dumb, pseudo-spiritual biker thing to say or worse, a terrible pickup line. But then, after having finished the episode, you realise that his motorcycle is ALIVE and it was literally enjoying the view with him. I love that about Remedy's writing.
This all confirms to me that Sam Lake is the writer of the first word, and the main villain of the franchise staring at us and trolling us the whole way through
Loved when you found him in that chair with a deer mask on in the base game. Also recommend the GDC talk by Nazareno, he says they're all as creators stuck trying to make Sam's story a reality or something like that. czcams.com/video/vyafiQG6XEU/video.html
Door could be the writer of the first word. If i remember correctly, he's ancient. He could be the first person to draw on a cave wall. Making him the first artist. His work lives on in all derivative works.
Something I’m realizing: the whiteboard lists both Jesse and Dylan as names for the red haired woman. Which loops back into Dylan Faden’s musings about his and jesses names, and how in another world they might be the same. Very interesting.
It’s a big theory that seems very plausible is that the original person was Jesse Dylan Fayden. They were just separated into two seperate entities after the Ordinary AWE.
@@ContrastCopy Definitely a possibility. Not sure how I feel about it, since that makes the AWE have too many effects in my book, but even so, both theories could be true
Only reason I have reservation on the Divided Faden theory is the fact that Dylan is supposed to be younger than her by a year or two. If they were twins I would see it more. However, it is entirely possible that it is more of a Lutece Twin situation from Bioshock Infinite. The same person from different realities but separated by one chromosome. Hence why the Board sees them as the same.
My mom and I also gasped when the “you’ll come back for me?” Line came up in the comic. We both legitimately got teary-eyed and choked up when we tried to talk about it. Man I love QB so much! Legitimately my favorite video ever
Time Breakers absolutely broke (no pun intended) my mind! All the implication it has! I love the change of styles, especially with the 8bit shooter that was phenomenal! Also the Jesse/Beth and Shawn/Tim/Jack parallels! I loved all these DLCs
Rose's episode was written by Alan, but obviously it's adapted from her fan-fic. He seemingly, at some point, completely doubted his own instincts and went looking for any port in a storm.
I wonder how horrified he felt at this chick trying to kiss him 😂 but he made good use of it when it came to his actual attempt as depicted in the game. I wonder, the Time Breaker episode was that a reflection of him meeting with Tim many times during his attempts as we ended up seeing in the game.
Fanfic is art too, right? I bet Alan pulled from Rose’s work when his continued to fail in an attempt to try…anything by that point. It’s also possible that perception plays a factor; maybe he hoped her…unique perspective on things might help pull reality in his desired direction? God I dunno, “Number 1 Fan” is a damn fever dream
Theory time for the first episode, just starting now: Rose wrote her fanfic, and it ended leaking into the dark place as a narrative. Alan just used it to his own purposes, editing her work somehow. Or Alan is a very talented writer who knows how to change and adapt his tone to the circumstances, and the circumstances, to sound tru, required going full fanfic nuts mode.
This is similar to Bioshock logic of the multiverse. There is always a man, there is always a city and there is always a lighthouse. except in Remedy's case, There is always a hero, there is always a villain and there is always an organization. Alan Wake = Dark Presence = FBC Jesse Faden = The Hiss = FBC (again) Jack Joyce = The Shifters = Monarch The Actor = Door = REC Max Payne = Nicole Horne = Aesir Corporation This one is a bit of a stretch but ill voice it anyways John = John Myrra = Pink Bird Mental Institute (probably shouldnt add this, probably should play Max Payne) UPDATE: I've finished Max Payne 1 & 2 Also the characters playing different characters in the multiverse is like how actors play different characters in different movies, different stories.
Re: First one: the self-indulgent fan fiction tone is so uncannily accurate :D It's like "My Immortal" levels of brilliance. A very touching tongue-in-cheek nod to the fan culture, with loving attention to detail I would expect from Remedy. Kudos to them. It was a bit strange to hear that people actually get second-hand embarrassment from this. It's so unashamedly silly, absurd and camp, that it just made me grin the whole time 😁 I'm sure it's Rose's in origin, by the way. It says "Teleplay by Alan Wake", so I think he just adapts real-world things that he sees glimpses of, tweaking the narrative and nudging it in the right direction in order to escape the Dark Presence. It's just that in this case, the "original story" is not reality, but rather another piece of (fan) fiction. Or, as you've said, the reality as seen through Rose's Dark Presence-affected mind.
This right here is a 'Mary Sue' self-insert fan fiction done right haha! It's obvious that's how Rose sees herself so that's how it plays out. The whole thing was so ridiculous lmao
At the beginning of the Time Breaker episode it is hilarious to see Sam so enthusiastic and pumped while talking about all the nerdy lore of the story. I think that is a deliberate nod to all the Remedy philosophers who love theorizing about every little detail in their games. Shawn represents the new casual fans who just got roped in with AW2. The have no idea what they were getting into with Remedy. And the music in the background! Us Remedy fans talk about this stuff like we are unlocking some of the deepest secrets of the human condition by making sense out of these games. LOL
Yeah, Tom Seine as a paracriminal identity thief is pretty much the vibe I have been getting. He is using the Dark Place to take over, or just steal, other big artist's identities. It would make sense that with this new info he is using it to become the main Master of Many worlds maybe? And loving the music in Time Breaker. Reminds me of Rockstar's original music for their games, specifically the music from Manhunt and The Warriors, very dark.
Seeing you condensed description of my theory on Seine makes me think more on this. Almost like a hostile takeover of another's persons art or 'properties'. Kind of interesting considering Poison Pill is a term used as a self-defense mechanism when a company is about to experience a hostile take over.
I have a quick language theory here, I could be reading too much into but I don't think so. The constant refrain of "percolation" in this version of Coffee World is probably a near double-entendre for the Finnish word "perkelöityä" (meaning something gets progressively more screwed up, fast escalation, root word 'perkele'), which I can 100% see emerging from the devs casually talking about "the percalator" during development and the writers taking that idea and implementing it into this "hiss corrupted" version of coffee.
Excellent discovery! I definitely got the sense that percolation was analogous to corruption, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on why they chose that word specifically, other than to maintain the darkly humorous coffee theme.
Just a few observations about the Time Breaker episode; 1) Sean's appearance changes to that of the "Tim" native to the reality he shifts to. This probably applies to Door/Hatch as well - if Door traveled to the reality of Quantum Break, he'd likely change to appear as a twin of Hatch. "This is the ritual to lead you on, your friends will meet him when you're gone." Is there an epidemic of shifters stealing the timelines of their dimensional twins? 2) The Dead Dimension - full of empty, discarded nodes - is evocative of the Trash Dump in Ordinary where Jesse and Dylan found the Slide Projector. 3) Alan, Jesse, Tim are Hero Archetypes and are on similar, parallel journeys just in different genres (Horror, Action/Adventure, Sci-Fi) and they are literally "The Heroes With Many Faces." (speculation) If Alan has transcended this role, that leaves Jesse and Tim (equal and inverted heroes that parallel the equal and inverted pyramids); perhaps they will "merge" at some point and create an idealized hero that can police both space and time. (/speculation) 4) Feral Scratch, Zane, and Alan are shown to be alternate dimension versions of each other. I have no idea what to make of this. I think they wanted to use the American Nightmare Scratch but he didn't look different enough from Alan as to not be confusing - so they went with Feral Scratch that's just Alan invaded by the DP? Zane and Alan I can buy, but implying Feral Scratch is an alternate dimension Alan is just confusing as it's clear what he is by the end of AW2. 5) It is implied that Alan and Door are now on a collision course as they both fill the same Archetype at the same time, that of "Master of many Worlds." We see them working together here, but only with Alan in the lesser position. Now that they may be equal, a conflict seems inevitable.
I also want to place a red string between the dead dimension, energy nodes and the end of time. Not sure what the actual link is but here are some thoughts: Nodes resemble the countermeasure The countermeasure was mean to stop the end of time The nodes were built to last even after the death of everything
Wait wait wait. What if the Board is not some alien interdimensional entity but actually some amalgamation of multiverse versions of Alan/Jesse/Tim all linked together?
Time Breaker was so interesting. I love how as Shawn moves closer to the end of time/heat death of the universe, the lower overall energy state is illustrated by him also moving backwards through various videogame formats (the first videogames were text-based pick your adventure games). I've had this theory for a while that all of the main characters in these games are moving towards becoming gods/masters of many worlds. I think Ahti is this type of being (or something even stronger) and he recognizes the potential in Jesse. I think Polaris does as well. And I understand these stories aren't "canon," but I think they're meant to push us in the direction of lore that may have been missed in the past.
I JUST REALIZED the theory of Zane trying to warp Alan into the role of a character he can play(one I had as well) is not only already in effect but it has worked since the seers since the FIRST GAME have called Alan Tom. He’s already won. He’s already beat Alan. It’s not about who writes who it’s about who’s playing who
The Old Gods tune Sea of Night implies they have sailed across the multiverse before. Maybe their first exposure to this individual was Zane? Who knows. In Dark Ocean Summoning they directly reference Alan by name. "A Land a Wake" So they do know his name is Alan. Just never use it. But I agree, it feels like Zane is already working subterfuge. That's by hypothesis for now at least.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Tbf we’re both forming these theories under conjecture, but it could pretty easily be waved away with the “A land awake” line. That could be multiple things, Alan could’ve written that to be in the song, the old gods could’ve sensed it would’ve been an important part of the song without realizing it, or it could’ve been a completely accidental part of the song that was actually the part that got him out. My main thing with all of this is that let’s say you’re correct that they do know his name. Why do they STILL call him Tom. They are either accidentally being more accurate or are on purpose trying to help Zane get out, while simultaneously damning Alan to fiction.
I’m slightly ashamed to admit I’m struggling to get to grips with this actor theory. 😆 I may need to draw some diagrams in a notebook, stare at it for while, and just wait in hope that Dean breaks the whole thing down in a video.
@@JazzSparkybasically the breakdown is that in the chaos that is the narrative of the second game we find that in the background of his involvement of the story, Zane has mad himself look exactly like Alan and says that the diver was just a character he played in a film(a retcon that Zane made up to use the power of the dark place to make real through art and now he’s the filmmaker Zane) the idea is this, if Zane couldn’t find a way out of the darkplace himself because of the technicality he put himself under with the story then why not find a way out in a VERY roundabout way? The videos of dr darling in ng+ show that he accidentally made his way to the darkplace somehow and then he met Zane. This heavily implies something very significant, the characters that are played by Alan wakes face actor and Alan wakes voice actor met in the darkplace and decide to “collaborate”. This collaboration is Alan’s entire existence. He’s made to be two people at once, and with the fictional character finding a way out of the dark place the two “actors” playing wake(Darling and Zane) get a way out on technicality using Alan as a window. This will be the plot of the third game, Alan has always kinda had daddy issues and he technically has two fathers in a way now, it’ll be Alan fighting against a fictional existence because whenever Zane decides to put out “no no Alan wasn’t ever real he was just a character I played in my film about Alan wake, it was all me” Alan will be damned to a fictional existence, but there’s a way out of this, it’s already somewhat implied in the first game that Alan made Zane up, and his wife is a filmmaker. I think Alan will be fine despite the hell he’ll be put through.
Something I notice people seem to forget is that Alan seems to have the ability to see (entirely or partially) the lives of other people. He thought it was inspiration (in the game, he gets them as echoes from FBI Casey' cases), and he uses that to write. He mentioned it to Casey at one point, and it's referenced during the jazz part of Herald of Darkness: "Echo scenes to seek out. Again and again." In the case of Rose, he is writing the story, but remote "seeing" her life, so his writing is influenced by her.
Oh I mention that at some point in this. Moreso why he would go along with her fanfictions lol. I'm trying to figure out what this was supposed to accomplish.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Maybe this was during the time that Alan mentioned the video in Control AWE dlc, when he was experimenting with his writing style and trying new things. It might even explain why he went along with Rose's fanficition in the first place. Also, I think this might have giving Alan the idea of using love in his story where he replaced rose's unhealthy love to him with his love to Alice. That did help him out in final draft where he did escape the dark place with Alice's love for him.
I think Mr. Scratch wrote the Rose episode to groom her into being his queen of the apocylpse. I tjink the twin brother plot line was meant to convince Rose that the real Alan is an irrationally angry Twin who hate Mr. Scratch her true love. It much mkre fits Mr. Scratches sense of humor and lack of respect for people then Alans's overly complicated prose style@GamingUniversityUoG
4:17:11 "The branch bonds with the door, creating a handle. And with that the door is fully realized." This ending seems to imply that Shawn/The Shifter is needed to fully realize Door's power.
The Night Springs theme is such a banger, and I love how even the lyrics of that make you wonder if Alan-or someone else connected to the Dark Place-wrote it. Especially the lines about being “lost in a mist for days and days” possibly being a nod to Alan’s appearance in Dead by Daylight… And there’s a line about “living inside the dreamers dream, better let her sleep.” Let *her* sleep?? Pretty sure that episode of NS, from Alan Wake 1, was about a guy…interesting how that changed. Maybe we’re now talking about Alice? We know she had an influence on the stories of Initiation and Return, but one does have to wonder just how much, given her understanding of the Dark Place is seemingly greater than even Alan’s.
Rose's story was definitely my fav. I laughed the whole way through. It was great how everything was seen through her perspective and how she made herself into an action hero. It was deliciously cheesy and horribly written, and it totally fit the way she saw herself and the world around her. I loved every minute of it.
Just finished it. It was great. Honestly i expected a little more, but it was fine. I do want a full version of time breaker though. That would be a very interesting concept.
James S... James Sunderland? Lol. The Night Springs song mentions something about fog or mist. Could this be a setup to the most elaborate and bonkers crossover ever?!
Next we'll have Max Payne bullet dodging Pyramid Heads sword in the SH2 Remake. There's even a part where posters are talking about Pyramids coming together to form a symbol...
@noblebojack "Beyond the lake you call home, lies a deeper darker ocean green, and those ports can sometimes lead to darker lakes yet unseen. Perhaps it's better to fill your heart with light and be violent, for the hills are often silent in... Night Springs."
I just realize that the Time breaker script you find at the ground at the beginning of the episode says “if the player inspects the page”. Not if “the actor inspect the page”. It says player. Oh Sam….
I replayed the full game just to get into the story again for dlc and turns out i found a tv that allowed me to play an episode while replaying the game! Never expected that! It's so cool. After finishing most of Alan's side all the tvs i found were on alans chapters
@@actor5991 yes. I believe they are separate tvs. I havent finished the one I found which is the number one fan. I assume as I continue through the story I will find the rest! I was totally surprised because I chose to play the story first instead of the dlc immediately
@@SlightlyThrowed420 that’s AWESOME. I’ve played through every DLC episode twice but was planning on a full play through. What an awesome idea. Remedy keeps surprising me.
imma (probably) leave a comment for each episode. first, the glorious #1 fan!: either alan was very VERY drunk and somehow slap-happy in the DP, or rose threw a fic in the lake and alan caught wind of it and now it, too, is one of his nightmares lmfao. it would also explain why he's stuck in his old outfit. or scratch was feeling petty and wrote it; it certainly has a lot in common with deerfest rose said she got messages from alan but alan said he had no idea what she was talking about. granted, he does have memory issues but you'd think he would've left himself a note about that remedy had too much fun making this
It's circular logic. Rose was imagining getting messages, which inspired Alan to write about it, which actually turned into reality and Alice did get messages. That's my theory. But this is again something that I don't think will ever be 100% cleared up.
@2:50:28 Maybe you also noticed (but probably only in hindsight) that the TV in Shawn's dressing room is smashed in the middle, which is how his alternate reality double got there. He came in through the television and then was killed by Door. A great little bit of subtle environmental storytelling that you would only realise the second time you play through it, or if you watch it after you played it.
I might’ve misunderstood what happened there. I thought that Door had mistakenly killed Shawn’s stand-in/stunt double and moved onto the next reality without realising.
time breaker: so we're not playing tim or jack, we're literally playing shawn ashmore. shawn ashmore is now a canon character in the rcu, like sam, all in service of make a sequel about "time breakers." well i guess that's one way to give the middle finger to microsoft lol omg the video game universe was found behind that locked door in the DP by an out of bounds gamer! iirc it was an actual arcade machine in an otherwise empty room! it was a rough draft type of thing but it was there that QB video's gonna end up being to well timed; i'm sure a lot of people will be more interested in it after playing AW2, or at least asking that very question of whether it's relevant lol omg i didnt think to use google translate when i was playing but from what i can see, the poster literally says "gasoline in their veins. passing lane straight to hell (i imagine it more means 'driving to' or 'passing through'). deathrally" i feel like i really should've put that one together just from the clear "ralli" lol my question now is: if door is killing all the versions of jack, why just bring tim into the DP instead of killing him? surely not just so he could give the page to saga at the right time? oh. i had NOT made the connection to the hiss about resonance based life😮
I tried to confront Door in the final text part of Tome Breaker, but it seems no matter what you do everything leads back to Wake in the writers room. Maybe something will be found later since it’s so early but we’ll see. Definitely a mind fuck with the REC being created like that.
I had the actor focus on the dancer with the spiral necklace, they took a vacation to a small town and she jumped into the multiverse, then back to the writers room
Great play through, Dean. The Oldest House as World Tree/Pillar theory being fully confirmed is my favourite thing to come out of this. Interestingly, the Finnish mythology incarnation of the World Tree is the Sampo, which in the Kalevala is interpreted in the form of a magic mill which creates endless ‘copies’ of anything the user requests out of thin air. It fell into the possession of Ahto (Ahti) and he refused to relinquish it. In the ATU Index, the ‘tale type’ of the continuous magic mill has the classification number 565, which happens to be the passcode for the locked door in the Dark Place TV studio the second time Alan goes through, at which point it leads directly to Ahti. I theorise that Ahti is indeed the ‘owner’ (caretaker, guardian perhaps) of the Sampo, known to us as The Oldest House. What do you think? It ties in nicely my big Ahti theory which I won’t bore you with now because this is already a long comment. 😆 P.s. Tale type 665 is also an interesting one as the corresponding Germanic tale has a ‘rule of three’ element to it, as well as a mysterious well-dressed gentleman, and more. I haven’t quite managed to reconcile it with the Remedyverse yet though.
north star: i cant believe we now have to refer to "coffee" as a sentient, hostile force lol. as ominous as "try the coffee" was, "YOU ARE NOT COFFEE" is even creepier lol. remedy at their most finnish she might be The Sister, but we do know that he's called her by her name before; he called her faden in AWE. still with you on alan not being an all powerful god and controlling everything, but it feels relevant. if this was rose's story, we would've had to fight mr drippy lol ooo, the blessed org popping up again!
Looking back at this, I find it especially interesting that Time Breaker casts Tim/Shawn as the role of Alice, and "Lisa"/Jesse as Wake, and associates her with the spiral. Lines up with Alan taking Dylan's role, and Dylan being Jesse's "Shadow" as well (and with Dylan's dream visions match up with Alan as well). Makes me think of the two "sets" as "multiversal character complexes" or something - Tim/Alice/Shawn as "The Actor" and Jesse/Alan/Dylan as "The Writer". One wonders if this is where things are going in the end - the two of them vs Door/Hatch.
The Dead Dimension at the end of time (where all realities terminate and die) has only one functional node and it leads back to the genesis of all things. This seemingly expands the scope of what we already know; It is not just Alan's narrative process that loops/spirals confined in a finite chunk of time - it is actually all of existence. However, even if you go back to the exact moment existence is possible - it's implied that you will arrive only to find that Alan was waiting for you in the darkness. Off that track a bit, it is stated that the reason Door is - compared to other shifters - so sane and powerful is because when he entered the Chronon Cave, he got an overdose of chronon radiation exposure that killed all his other "Doors." He is the most focused, both in ability and cognition, a shifter can be outside of the death of time. His mission to kill all the Jacks/Tims/Seans may be an attempt, for whatever motive, to create a shifter just like himself. Last bit for this in this tread; It's stated that the resonance based lifeforms (Polaris/Hiss) can kill Alan/Door if they are concentrated into one being and that being acts as a kind of "resonance bomb." It didn't work for Sean because his love for Jesbeth unbalanced him and he released the resonance before ever reaching Door. To wrap up, we have three possible armies fighting for control of existence; 1) The Taken: Infected and led by the Dark Presence - which itself might just be only Alan's rage and jealousy given formless existence. It is only alien in the sense that it is so primal and insane that it can not be reasoned with and its motives are impossible to understand. 2) The Hiss: Alien intelligence with a resonance-based existence. Much like the Dark Presence - it propagates by infecting other life. Though its process and tactics are able to be comprehended, its motives are inscrutable. It may operate on an elemental or animal like level, infecting others for no logical purpose - it is simply its nature. 3) The Time Keepers: Created and led by Mr. Door, the Time Keepers are the corrupted, soulless dimensional twins of Tim Breaker who seem to act intelligently but without agency; only existing to do the bidding of Warlin Door. All three armies operate very similarly and, for one motive or other, appear to want to bring about the "Percolation" where all individual minds are combined with one of them to form one homogeneous mind/existence. My speculation is that they all share the same goal or role, to end The Spiral.
Lmao, remedy is really playing with the plausible deniability at 2:57:10, they transcribe it as "James S." but the handwriting looks much more like "James J.", aka. Jack Joyce. That's a next level law joke.
When you called Rose cute but certifiable, my mind immediately pictured a Mew in a little waitress outfit wielding a shotgun and blasting the Taken away as if they stole her Pokénip. No joke, that was the image that popped into my head. XD
@@beawi994 It is beginning of the Book of John in the Bible. It is a Reference to Genisis of the Bible where YHWH "spoke " Reality into Existence by making Light.
I think that the fact that words are what give shape and maintain the worlds in Remedy Multiverse is a meta-commentary about them itself being fiction, if they weren't written in the real world they wouldn't exist, and only when they are keep using these universes is that they keep existing. You could say that Quantum Break is a dead universe right now, is there are only echoes of it.
Well I have had Clay and Sam like and share my stuff before. I know they are aware of the channel at the least. This reveal was crazy for me because it was my conception of the Remedyverse way back before Control was even released.
We're slowly getting more powerful Parautilitarians be put on the chess board. Jessie Faden as Director, Alan Wake having conquered his paranatural entity, Door, Shawn Ashmore's (Chosen one version) having been to the edge of thought and in full control of his ability to jump across worlds. I wonder if there's a war somewhere at the end of everything and door is trying to manipulate to past in some way. His attempts to hunt down Shawns could have just been a gambit to motivate the right one to ascend. The fact he helped alan could have been an attempt to nudge him in just the right way, the fact he refused to help Jessie's brother who was clearly lost to evil, access the door ways suggests he's got a vision beyond just pure destruction
I loved so much EP3 Time Breaker, it's really a love letter to Quantum Break. I'm so glad Sam didn't forget about his.. cough cough.. """non-canonical""" (my a$$, lol) creation. Seeing Shawn and Courtney together again ❤ And, did you noticed how Shawn is narrating himself like he did in QB? Absolute banger! And I agree with you, Sam is definitely cooking something behind the scenes. God I love so much Remedy and Sam. P.S: Makes me a little sad we didn't get the other two episodes, one was called "Murder Case" based on Alex Casey (and it's understandable why 😢) and one was called "Altered World Event" and maybe Agent Estevez or Dr.Darling was the playable character. P.P.S: The Labyrinth ❤ months ago I asked Marko on FB if they still had the "Quantum Break" version of the song, and he said "Yes we have it", I hope one day to hear that one, maybe in a QB Remastered ❤
3:36:26 "I want to know what drugs..." I know this is this a rhetoric question but I kinda do have an answer and we should talk about it. (Im serious! Let me explain) Look at the vortex in time 3:27:44 and you can see quite caleidoscopic geometry which is often described to be seen in psychedelic trips. More prove that Remedy has thought of this is in the part 2:49:31 where it calls the flashes to be in "psychedelic colors" I mean the whole text based adventure feels like a mushroom trip. The whole rebirth with higher knowledge thing is very typical for shamanic rituals and common experience using such substances. Before when describing interdimensional travel they have made metaphopric refeferences to maelstroms, black holes, worm holes and such but now they have also brought psychedelic trips as an addition. So maybe they really were high doing this lol. Mr Scratch and T. Seine would approve lmao
How about the Time Breaker transference vortex having.... red blood cells? Also, I feel like there's something with all of these characters "finding" Alan. Like he agreed to write this for Door and made himself the thing these people were chasing, and it bled into the "real world (AW2)" to make sure these important characters ended up helping Alan
I think when you get to the intercom at the workshop. It prompts you to go look. Then the note becomes readable on the table. But it isn't needed. Clues were pretty evident.
You kept asking why Alan would write a story as silly as chapter 1 with Rose… to me it’s obvious. A vigilant fan like her, written into a reality that plays right into her hands; that could make for some serious power. If Alan writes everything exactly like what she would want to hear, can you imagine how driven she might be to ACTUALLY save him? I think Alan knew exactly what he was doing, although it was a pretty desperate attempt, it very well could have worked.
So after listening to the Night Springs theme song way too many times because it's a banger, I found myself wondering if the line about "we live inside a sleeper's dream" right after "cult of the Elder God" was a cheeky reference to Azathoth in addition to nodding back to Alan Wake lore.
The crazy thing about all of these is that, no matter how deep it may get, these are all still just Night Springs episodes written by Alan. It completely muddies the lore implications because some can be total fabrications for the sake of making his story work and some can be how remedy’s universe works. Like episode 2 for example. Clearly Alan isn’t Dylan and the FBC isn’t in coffee world and coffee world isn’t actually some government sanctioned hivemind conspiracy. It’s just what Alan wrote for Night Springs. So how much of the Time Breaker episode is “just Night Springs” and how much of it is real? If you can’t create something from nothing (as Alan believes at least, which is good enough for now) then how much of this multiversal story is canon? It could be that the rules of creating the rules of these multiversal stories was why it was a failed attempt to escape. There’s new info in there, but given that it’s an episode of Night Springs, it’s hard to tell how much of that info is reliable….and I love it for it. I think it’s incredibly interesting because of it. We can’t just ask ourselves what that episode means on its own. We have to also ask ourselves what does it mean for reality outside of Night Springs? Because it possibly could only slightly resemble it, like the other 2 episodes. I’m also wondering if these became real night springs stories in reality. Wonder if Jesse will find the one about her going to coffee world in Control 2 and be like “….Wake, wtf?”
Finally finished all 3 today and excitedly put this on when cooking dinner for the fam. You talked bad on tea drinkers and then confirmed....(haven't gotten there yet, but reference) YOU ARE TEA
I feel like the first episode was only partially influenced by Alan but judging by what we see Alan wearing at the end of the episode I feel like it was fanfiction writen by Rose that was manifested during her possession by Barbra Jager in the first game. Its a world where her fantasies had come to life probably to keep her sedated.
Idk if it was noticed or mentioned, but nobody is referred to by name EXCEPT... Door. Everyone else is "the waiters", "the sheriff", "the sibling", "the actor". Even Sam Lake is only referred to by name once and that's by way of mention from Shawn audibly. But Door is always Door, aside from the quick name drop of the actor variant, Branch.
I think "The sea of night" is just another name for the Dark Place, that would mean the dark place is an in-between space for the multiverse, connecting it to events in all of the RCU (AWE's especially). I've gotten some pushback for it on reddit, but I'm not convinced it's wrong. Thoughts?
I think the only ‘fault’ to your theory is its pretty readily obvious that the Dark Place is the origin of every universe, BUT, I think that could work for your theory REALLY wellz
So… All three episodes end with the protag ending up in the writers room, eh? BUT WAIT, THE SECOND ONE ENDS WITH DYLAN’S CELL? But those circular vents look like the windows and the writers room is kindof a cell, ain’t it? IDK, feels a bit of a stretch but uhhhhhhhh there’s something there.
Alam originally wrote Night Springs or was a writer on it. This is like several attempts at altering reality without success. Though the one where he is the master of many worlds holds some weight.
I only played the first one, Rose's... it's an amazing fanfic style chapter, it's... perfect. Up to the werewolf part... and the werewolf motorcycle. Chef kiss.
Cant wait to hear what Monty Zander will say about this DLC in Lore Dump .... should be very interesting. I know he's a friend of the channel. You guys are my top content creators wheb it comes to Remedy stuff
I may have forgotten some information, but the part with the dead universe and the black pages makes me wonder if Alan unintentionally created the hiss resonance. If all it takes to form a universe is a poem or just words, and if Alan wrote the Hiss chant, along with time being meaningless in the dark place, is it possible that Alan writing the Hiss chant created the universe the Hiss originated from which eventually died and made the resonance based life that became it. Because of the dark place's properties, it potentially wouldn't have mattered when he wrote the Hiss chant. It would have always been that.
I both hate and love that we went from "Alan created the Hiss!" to "No, Alan just created the chant. The Hiss already existed." to "Alan created the Hiss!" Time is truly circular lmao
@ 3:46:00 - Sort of off-topic for what you were talking about but do you think if Polaris was all that was left in her dead universe (well her and The Hiss), do you think thats why she "went with" Jesse for lack of a better term? Like she was in a dead reality, nothing left except her opposite/enemy (The Hiss), so she would rather become a guardian angel type entity and attach herself to young Jesse. Sort of a form or symbiosis (I think that's the term?) they are helping each other even though they aren't the same and don't necessarily have the same goal, or at least didn't have the same goal until The Hiss were released into The Oldest House.
I have absolutely loved Alan Wake since 2010, - Control and Alan Wake 2 are equally incredibly awesome and amazing, (and American Nightmare), I really, really enjoyed this DLC, - considering the story behind this three-piece DLC is these are stories Alan Wake has written in failed attempts at escape, so the final piece you can only find your way to Alan as that was his plan, - an attempt to use his gift to find a way to help him escape
I like the idea that the 2nd episode is basically a skeleton built upon some core concepts of the same thing that became control. It has several similar thoughts, but going different ways. It is familiar, but not a carbon copy. It's not a 1=1 'oh it is this like This from control is now That here. But once the symbols are pulled away and the core ideas are on the table, you really see the connections and similarities.It's like someone pitching an idea for a tv show, and it turns this way, but if you pitch it on a book it might turn a completely different way. (which is amusing, a one episode tv show vs a long story comparison)
As someone said... The Lake absorbed it, he decided to use it, maybe in desperation, to see if it would help him escape... But it had to be TRUE. He had to write it in her style, or it wouldn't be true. Even if he did it as a form of practice because he was feeling blue about his situation and not very positive about his writing he was still able to use elements of it in his actual escape. 5D chess
I was so excited when I saw the trailer and then I saw it was available «Right Now» 🤩 Woohoo! Goodness I am 10min in and already laughing so much! 😂 They really went all in with the Rose fanfic 😝 This is hilarious!
*edited to remove a spoiler from the book I shouldn’t have typed Have you read the Quantum Break novel? It’s another multiverse version of the game and I swear they reference Beth’s fate in that book in the comic section of this DLC. And the bullet of light in AW2 appears in the QB novel as well.
@@GamingUniversityUoG I’m about to reread it too! It was a book with the free range to include abandon story elements (or those too costly) from the game’s development stage. It’s interesting to read “Quantum Break: The secret history of time travel” where they document the development processes too. The novel Zero State is not considered canon to the game. But in San Lake’s foreword for the book he says since it’s more of a multiverse story you can kinda consider the book another version of how their story played out.
I'm watching this days late but i fully agree with 1:03:40- ish time stamp that Rose probably sees the world this way. I think since her run in with Cynthia, Rose lives in this almost haze-like state where she sees things differently than everyone else, in a very rose-colored glasses type of way. Even before this DLC, i imagined Rose went around killing Taken with a smile and not fully realizing that this was a dangerous situation she was putting herself in. I'd like to think with this DLC, it supports that because I can see this bleeding over into the real world and that being the reason Rose always seems so out there and creepy at times.
First Episode is likely blended with Rose's fiction, it's similar in tone to the lunchbox scraps of fiction. In the epilogue cutscene of the first game Rose takes over as the "Lady of the Light", which is kind of a protector role for Bright Falls. Rose was also touched by the dark presence. However, her fiction can't actually affect reality to the same extent as Alan's. As Control's DLC shows, not everyone is capable of harnessing the power to affect reality with writing, look at Hartman who is technically a highly educated man, but one who lacks the "creative spirit". Rose has that "creative spirit", it's just not honed to the extent where it could be used to its full potential. The second Episode seems to be an earlier draft written by Alan for the plot of Control as a short story. The third Episode is really interesting, as it ties in Quantum Break with the rest of the Remedy-verse, however it seems like it was quite rushed.
I can't tell if I'm grasping or if it's a thing, but background characters in both episode 1 and episode 3 looked familiar to me. I felt like they looked like the agents that were there when the FBC interrupted Saga and took Wake away in the base game, but I'd have to go back into AW2 and get to that part to see their faces again then compare to dinner customers and set crew from ep1 and 3. I know for sure some of the faces in ep. 1 show up in ep. 3 and the friend watching me play noted that one of the ladies looked like the agent in charge during base game. Notably the FBC agent Saga met at the FBC monitoring station doesn't seem look familiar to me as any of the background folks in the dlc. It's Remedy so I don't know if it means something or I'm just misremembering or if devs are using similar faces to mess with our heads (or reuse some assets). Has anyone else noticed this or am I drinking too much of the coffee?
Episodes 2 and 3 definitely feell ike paraphrased retellings of Control and Quantum Break. Which would make episode 1 what, Alan Wake or American Nightmare or something? Episode 2 has the strongest parallels with "The Sibling" paraphrasing a lot of Jesse's dialogue even. From the whole "This is going to be strange" and panning down from the Coffee World sign to the Hiss / Coffee paralel I felt like this was a seriously abridged version of Control.
Dean, I'm sorry you had these technical issues with the audio. I hate when that kind of stuff happens, especially if it diminishes how I perceive the quality of something I'm making. For what it's worth, it's still totally listenable, and I'm still watching the whole video. To the people in chat being like "the audio was echoey, but it's fine now" - you were unfortunately mistaken. It only sounds fine because what you were hearing at the time wasn't a good barometer to be able to tell one way or the other. It was consistently echoey throughout most of that section, and there were never any moments where it was "fine now". If Dean's getting conflicting info about how it sounds, and he can't hear it on his end, it can make it really difficult to troubleshoot problems like that. If you don't know for sure, or can't tell, don't guess based on sparse information. Wait until you can hear someone talking where it's obvious before saying it's better, otherwise you're just adding confusion. That's my two cents. source: having dealt with many technical issues that I couldn't personally experience on my end, audio and video. It's so frustrating... Why can't technology just work?
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“My motorcycle is also a werewolf” will be living rent free in my head forever now until the end of time.
It needs to be on the list if anyone makes a, "Remedy out of Context" video.
Reminds me of that altered item that behaved like a werewolf in Control
I love Remedy's sense of humour. I too was grinning pretty much the whole way through the first episode.
"YOU ARE COFFEE." isn't leaving my soul.
I just now realised "picking up the sheriff's gun makes you sheriff" had happened several times. I didn't connect that Alan picked up Casey's gun the way Jesse picked up Trench's
Yep. It is the ritual of assuming the role.
.. but a man with a tool, that makes two -Ahti
RE: "My motorcycle is also a werewolf."
When you meet the bad boy down at the beach, and he says "me and my motorcycle were just enjoying the view", you think it's just a dumb, pseudo-spiritual biker thing to say or worse, a terrible pickup line. But then, after having finished the episode, you realise that his motorcycle is ALIVE and it was literally enjoying the view with him. I love that about Remedy's writing.
Got to love that Teen drama themes all throughout this lol. My crush has a twin brother who is a werewolf who drives a motorcycle.
This all confirms to me that Sam Lake is the writer of the first word, and the main villain of the franchise staring at us and trolling us the whole way through
"The Master of Many Worlds"..... Watch out for Him.
He’s not a Lake, He’s an Ocean
Loved when you found him in that chair with a deer mask on in the base game.
Also recommend the GDC talk by Nazareno, he says they're all as creators stuck trying to make Sam's story a reality or something like that. czcams.com/video/vyafiQG6XEU/video.html
Door could be the writer of the first word. If i remember correctly, he's ancient. He could be the first person to draw on a cave wall. Making him the first artist. His work lives on in all derivative works.
The soundtrack for Time Breaker is so unapologetically similar to Quantum Break's with those synths!
That whole section is literally a love letter to Quantum Break
@@GamingUniversityUoG I'm still praying that PoisonPill regain 'Control' of QB and can fully embrace it as part of the connected universe.
I need the tango chiptune
@piratetv1 our boy Champions Of Light already extracted the DLC soundtracks ❤
Petri Alanko trying hard not to get sued plagiarising his own damn work 😂
Something I’m realizing: the whiteboard lists both Jesse and Dylan as names for the red haired woman. Which loops back into Dylan Faden’s musings about his and jesses names, and how in another world they might be the same. Very interesting.
It’s a big theory that seems very plausible is that the original person was Jesse Dylan Fayden. They were just separated into two seperate entities after the Ordinary AWE.
@@ContrastCopy Definitely a possibility. Not sure how I feel about it, since that makes the AWE have too many effects in my book, but even so, both theories could be true
Only reason I have reservation on the Divided Faden theory is the fact that Dylan is supposed to be younger than her by a year or two. If they were twins I would see it more. However, it is entirely possible that it is more of a Lutece Twin situation from Bioshock Infinite. The same person from different realities but separated by one chromosome. Hence why the Board sees them as the same.
My mom and I also gasped when the “you’ll come back for me?” Line came up in the comic. We both legitimately got teary-eyed and choked up when we tried to talk about it. Man I love QB so much! Legitimately my favorite video ever
I have been waiting to get a followup to Jack's promise for 8 years! Hearing this got me both sad and excited at the same time.
Time Breakers absolutely broke (no pun intended) my mind! All the implication it has! I love the change of styles, especially with the 8bit shooter that was phenomenal! Also the Jesse/Beth and Shawn/Tim/Jack parallels! I loved all these DLCs
They turned into Alan and Alice in my playthrough as well
Rose's episode was written by Alan, but obviously it's adapted from her fan-fic. He seemingly, at some point, completely doubted his own instincts and went looking for any port in a storm.
She was totally her style of seeing the world. Ridiculous haha
This is how I took it too haha This escape attempt was hilariously desperate. Like grasping at twigs while drowning
"the Waitress" Question Mark? The Spiral down.
I wonder how horrified he felt at this chick trying to kiss him 😂 but he made good use of it when it came to his actual attempt as depicted in the game. I wonder, the Time Breaker episode was that a reflection of him meeting with Tim many times during his attempts as we ended up seeing in the game.
Fanfic is art too, right? I bet Alan pulled from Rose’s work when his continued to fail in an attempt to try…anything by that point. It’s also possible that perception plays a factor; maybe he hoped her…unique perspective on things might help pull reality in his desired direction? God I dunno, “Number 1 Fan” is a damn fever dream
I own this game and didn't realize the Night Springs DLC was out today. The fact we play as Jesse Faden in one of these episodes is fucking amazing!
I wasn't expecting it to be released so fast. Definitely not complaining haha
Understandable. It was surprise announced to be released today, just yesterday.
I just played the episodes. They were fun. I’m sure there are lots of hidden stuff.
Theory time for the first episode, just starting now: Rose wrote her fanfic, and it ended leaking into the dark place as a narrative. Alan just used it to his own purposes, editing her work somehow.
Or Alan is a very talented writer who knows how to change and adapt his tone to the circumstances, and the circumstances, to sound tru, required going full fanfic nuts mode.
True. It had to be true...
This is similar to Bioshock logic of the multiverse. There is always a man, there is always a city and there is always a lighthouse.
except in Remedy's case, There is always a hero, there is always a villain and there is always an organization.
Alan Wake = Dark Presence = FBC
Jesse Faden = The Hiss = FBC (again)
Jack Joyce = The Shifters = Monarch
The Actor = Door = REC
Max Payne = Nicole Horne = Aesir Corporation
This one is a bit of a stretch but ill voice it anyways
John = John Myrra = Pink Bird Mental Institute (probably shouldnt add this, probably should play Max Payne)
UPDATE: I've finished Max Payne 1 & 2
Also the characters playing different characters in the multiverse is like how actors play different characters in different movies, different stories.
Re: First one: the self-indulgent fan fiction tone is so uncannily accurate :D
It's like "My Immortal" levels of brilliance.
A very touching tongue-in-cheek nod to the fan culture, with loving attention to detail I would expect from Remedy. Kudos to them.
It was a bit strange to hear that people actually get second-hand embarrassment from this. It's so unashamedly silly, absurd and camp, that it just made me grin the whole time 😁
I'm sure it's Rose's in origin, by the way. It says "Teleplay by Alan Wake", so I think he just adapts real-world things that he sees glimpses of, tweaking the narrative and nudging it in the right direction in order to escape the Dark Presence. It's just that in this case, the "original story" is not reality, but rather another piece of (fan) fiction.
Or, as you've said, the reality as seen through Rose's Dark Presence-affected mind.
This right here is a 'Mary Sue' self-insert fan fiction done right haha! It's obvious that's how Rose sees herself so that's how it plays out. The whole thing was so ridiculous lmao
At the beginning of the Time Breaker episode it is hilarious to see Sam so enthusiastic and pumped while talking about all the nerdy lore of the story. I think that is a deliberate nod to all the Remedy philosophers who love theorizing about every little detail in their games. Shawn represents the new casual fans who just got roped in with AW2. The have no idea what they were getting into with Remedy.
And the music in the background! Us Remedy fans talk about this stuff like we are unlocking some of the deepest secrets of the human condition by making sense out of these games. LOL
Remedy lore is like eating infinite dry biscuits with no water. But damn are they good biscuits!
That's why I kind of want to see someone come into the RCU with this as their first experience. Just to have that kind of tonal whiplash lmao.
Yeah, Tom Seine as a paracriminal identity thief is pretty much the vibe I have been getting. He is using the Dark Place to take over, or just steal, other big artist's identities. It would make sense that with this new info he is using it to become the main Master of Many worlds maybe?
And loving the music in Time Breaker. Reminds me of Rockstar's original music for their games, specifically the music from Manhunt and The Warriors, very dark.
Seeing you condensed description of my theory on Seine makes me think more on this. Almost like a hostile takeover of another's persons art or 'properties'. Kind of interesting considering Poison Pill is a term used as a self-defense mechanism when a company is about to experience a hostile take over.
I have a quick language theory here, I could be reading too much into but I don't think so. The constant refrain of "percolation" in this version of Coffee World is probably a near double-entendre for the Finnish word "perkelöityä" (meaning something gets progressively more screwed up, fast escalation, root word 'perkele'), which I can 100% see emerging from the devs casually talking about "the percalator" during development and the writers taking that idea and implementing it into this "hiss corrupted" version of coffee.
Excellent discovery! I definitely got the sense that percolation was analogous to corruption, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on why they chose that word specifically, other than to maintain the darkly humorous coffee theme.
Just a few observations about the Time Breaker episode;
1) Sean's appearance changes to that of the "Tim" native to the reality he shifts to. This probably applies to Door/Hatch as well - if Door traveled to the reality of Quantum Break, he'd likely change to appear as a twin of Hatch. "This is the ritual to lead you on, your friends will meet him when you're gone." Is there an epidemic of shifters stealing the timelines of their dimensional twins?
2) The Dead Dimension - full of empty, discarded nodes - is evocative of the Trash Dump in Ordinary where Jesse and Dylan found the Slide Projector.
3) Alan, Jesse, Tim are Hero Archetypes and are on similar, parallel journeys just in different genres (Horror, Action/Adventure, Sci-Fi) and they are literally "The Heroes With Many Faces." (speculation) If Alan has transcended this role, that leaves Jesse and Tim (equal and inverted heroes that parallel the equal and inverted pyramids); perhaps they will "merge" at some point and create an idealized hero that can police both space and time. (/speculation)
4) Feral Scratch, Zane, and Alan are shown to be alternate dimension versions of each other. I have no idea what to make of this. I think they wanted to use the American Nightmare Scratch but he didn't look different enough from Alan as to not be confusing - so they went with Feral Scratch that's just Alan invaded by the DP? Zane and Alan I can buy, but implying Feral Scratch is an alternate dimension Alan is just confusing as it's clear what he is by the end of AW2.
5) It is implied that Alan and Door are now on a collision course as they both fill the same Archetype at the same time, that of "Master of many Worlds." We see them working together here, but only with Alan in the lesser position. Now that they may be equal, a conflict seems inevitable.
I also want to place a red string between the dead dimension, energy nodes and the end of time. Not sure what the actual link is but here are some thoughts:
Nodes resemble the countermeasure
The countermeasure was mean to stop the end of time
The nodes were built to last even after the death of everything
Wait wait wait. What if the Board is not some alien interdimensional entity but actually some amalgamation of multiverse versions of Alan/Jesse/Tim all linked together?
Time Breaker was so interesting. I love how as Shawn moves closer to the end of time/heat death of the universe, the lower overall energy state is illustrated by him also moving backwards through various videogame formats (the first videogames were text-based pick your adventure games).
I've had this theory for a while that all of the main characters in these games are moving towards becoming gods/masters of many worlds. I think Ahti is this type of being (or something even stronger) and he recognizes the potential in Jesse. I think Polaris does as well.
And I understand these stories aren't "canon," but I think they're meant to push us in the direction of lore that may have been missed in the past.
Oh, and Rose mentioned that she ate her spinach today, that was a Popeye reference.
I JUST REALIZED the theory of Zane trying to warp Alan into the role of a character he can play(one I had as well) is not only already in effect but it has worked since the seers since the FIRST GAME have called Alan Tom. He’s already won. He’s already beat Alan. It’s not about who writes who it’s about who’s playing who
The Old Gods tune Sea of Night implies they have sailed across the multiverse before. Maybe their first exposure to this individual was Zane? Who knows. In Dark Ocean Summoning they directly reference Alan by name. "A Land a Wake" So they do know his name is Alan. Just never use it.
But I agree, it feels like Zane is already working subterfuge. That's by hypothesis for now at least.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Tbf we’re both forming these theories under conjecture, but it could pretty easily be waved away with the “A land awake” line. That could be multiple things, Alan could’ve written that to be in the song, the old gods could’ve sensed it would’ve been an important part of the song without realizing it, or it could’ve been a completely accidental part of the song that was actually the part that got him out. My main thing with all of this is that let’s say you’re correct that they do know his name. Why do they STILL call him Tom. They are either accidentally being more accurate or are on purpose trying to help Zane get out, while simultaneously damning Alan to fiction.
I’m slightly ashamed to admit I’m struggling to get to grips with this actor theory. 😆 I may need to draw some diagrams in a notebook, stare at it for while, and just wait in hope that Dean breaks the whole thing down in a video.
Alan is just another Zane reborn.
@@JazzSparkybasically the breakdown is that in the chaos that is the narrative of the second game we find that in the background of his involvement of the story, Zane has mad himself look exactly like Alan and says that the diver was just a character he played in a film(a retcon that Zane made up to use the power of the dark place to make real through art and now he’s the filmmaker Zane) the idea is this, if Zane couldn’t find a way out of the darkplace himself because of the technicality he put himself under with the story then why not find a way out in a VERY roundabout way? The videos of dr darling in ng+ show that he accidentally made his way to the darkplace somehow and then he met Zane. This heavily implies something very significant, the characters that are played by Alan wakes face actor and Alan wakes voice actor met in the darkplace and decide to “collaborate”. This collaboration is Alan’s entire existence. He’s made to be two people at once, and with the fictional character finding a way out of the dark place the two “actors” playing wake(Darling and Zane) get a way out on technicality using Alan as a window. This will be the plot of the third game, Alan has always kinda had daddy issues and he technically has two fathers in a way now, it’ll be Alan fighting against a fictional existence because whenever Zane decides to put out “no no Alan wasn’t ever real he was just a character I played in my film about Alan wake, it was all me” Alan will be damned to a fictional existence, but there’s a way out of this, it’s already somewhat implied in the first game that Alan made Zane up, and his wife is a filmmaker. I think Alan will be fine despite the hell he’ll be put through.
Something I notice people seem to forget is that Alan seems to have the ability to see (entirely or partially) the lives of other people. He thought it was inspiration (in the game, he gets them as echoes from FBI Casey' cases), and he uses that to write. He mentioned it to Casey at one point, and it's referenced during the jazz part of Herald of Darkness: "Echo scenes to seek out. Again and again."
In the case of Rose, he is writing the story, but remote "seeing" her life, so his writing is influenced by her.
Oh I mention that at some point in this. Moreso why he would go along with her fanfictions lol. I'm trying to figure out what this was supposed to accomplish.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Maybe this was during the time that Alan mentioned the video in Control AWE dlc, when he was experimenting with his writing style and trying new things. It might even explain why he went along with Rose's fanficition in the first place. Also, I think this might have giving Alan the idea of using love in his story where he replaced rose's unhealthy love to him with his love to Alice. That did help him out in final draft where he did escape the dark place with Alice's love for him.
Sam Lake in the last episode seems to have this same gift.
I think Mr. Scratch wrote the Rose episode to groom her into being his queen of the apocylpse. I tjink the twin brother plot line was meant to convince Rose that the real Alan is an irrationally angry Twin who hate Mr. Scratch her true love. It much mkre fits Mr. Scratches sense of humor and lack of respect for people then Alans's overly complicated prose style@GamingUniversityUoG
I feel like Alan saw Rose's fanfiction, and tried to use it out of desperation 😅
4:17:11 "The branch bonds with the door, creating a handle. And with that the door is fully realized."
This ending seems to imply that Shawn/The Shifter is needed to fully realize Door's power.
The Night Springs theme is such a banger, and I love how even the lyrics of that make you wonder if Alan-or someone else connected to the Dark Place-wrote it. Especially the lines about being “lost in a mist for days and days” possibly being a nod to Alan’s appearance in Dead by Daylight…
And there’s a line about “living inside the dreamers dream, better let her sleep.” Let *her* sleep?? Pretty sure that episode of NS, from Alan Wake 1, was about a guy…interesting how that changed. Maybe we’re now talking about Alice? We know she had an influence on the stories of Initiation and Return, but one does have to wonder just how much, given her understanding of the Dark Place is seemingly greater than even Alan’s.
Percolation could also mean Modeling the spread of infectious diseases through populations. It's a term used in science a lot
Rose's story was definitely my fav. I laughed the whole way through. It was great how everything was seen through her perspective and how she made herself into an action hero. It was deliciously cheesy and horribly written, and it totally fit the way she saw herself and the world around her. I loved every minute of it.
Just finished it. It was great. Honestly i expected a little more, but it was fine. I do want a full version of time breaker though. That would be a very interesting concept.
Yeah I plan to do it soon. It seems like each path has a crazy amount of detail.
This dlc really felt like a teaser for the bigger things to come, with lakehouse being a more focused dlc I'm hoping
@@blahblahgdp I hope so
James S... James Sunderland? Lol. The Night Springs song mentions something about fog or mist. Could this be a setup to the most elaborate and bonkers crossover ever?!
Next we'll have Max Payne bullet dodging Pyramid Heads sword in the SH2 Remake. There's even a part where posters are talking about Pyramids coming together to form a symbol...
bro… Sillent Hill 2 somehow fits the remedy universe perfectly 🥹
@noblebojack "Beyond the lake you call home, lies a deeper darker ocean green, and those ports can sometimes lead to darker lakes yet unseen. Perhaps it's better to fill your heart with light and be violent, for the hills are often silent in... Night Springs."
I just realize that the Time breaker script you find at the ground at the beginning of the episode says “if the player inspects the page”. Not if “the actor inspect the page”. It says player. Oh Sam….
well this scene was designed as the video game so it makes sense lol
@@GamingUniversityUoG I know, but still!
I replayed the full game just to get into the story again for dlc and turns out i found a tv that allowed me to play an episode while replaying the game! Never expected that! It's so cool. After finishing most of Alan's side all the tvs i found were on alans chapters
Wait, like you can load these DLC episodes from a TV in the main game?
@@actor5991 yes. I believe they are separate tvs. I havent finished the one I found which is the number one fan. I assume as I continue through the story I will find the rest! I was totally surprised because I chose to play the story first instead of the dlc immediately
@@SlightlyThrowed420 that’s AWESOME. I’ve played through every DLC episode twice but was planning on a full play through. What an awesome idea. Remedy keeps surprising me.
@@actor5991 I was saving DLC for after my replay and sam lake was like nah I'll bless you guys lmao
I was there ! Thanks for that stream. I’m about to watch again ✌🏾
Haha nice! enjoy
imma (probably) leave a comment for each episode. first, the glorious #1 fan!:
either alan was very VERY drunk and somehow slap-happy in the DP, or rose threw a fic in the lake and alan caught wind of it and now it, too, is one of his nightmares lmfao. it would also explain why he's stuck in his old outfit. or scratch was feeling petty and wrote it; it certainly has a lot in common with deerfest
rose said she got messages from alan but alan said he had no idea what she was talking about. granted, he does have memory issues but you'd think he would've left himself a note about that
remedy had too much fun making this
It's circular logic. Rose was imagining getting messages, which inspired Alan to write about it, which actually turned into reality and Alice did get messages. That's my theory. But this is again something that I don't think will ever be 100% cleared up.
Its always a pleasure to watch someone who is actually invested into the game they play! Great playthrough man.
@2:50:28 Maybe you also noticed (but probably only in hindsight) that the TV in Shawn's dressing room is smashed in the middle, which is how his alternate reality double got there. He came in through the television and then was killed by Door. A great little bit of subtle environmental storytelling that you would only realise the second time you play through it, or if you watch it after you played it.
I might’ve misunderstood what happened there. I thought that Door had mistakenly killed Shawn’s stand-in/stunt double and moved onto the next reality without realising.
I love that you bring Kabbalah and the Tarot into your analyses. Very cool. That's often how I think about these things too.
Once you learn the patterns it is really easy to recognize them everywhere.
time breaker:
so we're not playing tim or jack, we're literally playing shawn ashmore. shawn ashmore is now a canon character in the rcu, like sam, all in service of make a sequel about "time breakers." well i guess that's one way to give the middle finger to microsoft lol
omg the video game universe was found behind that locked door in the DP by an out of bounds gamer! iirc it was an actual arcade machine in an otherwise empty room! it was a rough draft type of thing but it was there
that QB video's gonna end up being to well timed; i'm sure a lot of people will be more interested in it after playing AW2, or at least asking that very question of whether it's relevant lol
omg i didnt think to use google translate when i was playing but from what i can see, the poster literally says "gasoline in their veins. passing lane straight to hell (i imagine it more means 'driving to' or 'passing through'). deathrally" i feel like i really should've put that one together just from the clear "ralli" lol
my question now is: if door is killing all the versions of jack, why just bring tim into the DP instead of killing him? surely not just so he could give the page to saga at the right time?
oh. i had NOT made the connection to the hiss about resonance based life😮
I tried to confront Door in the final text part of Tome Breaker, but it seems no matter what you do everything leads back to Wake in the writers room. Maybe something will be found later since it’s so early but we’ll see. Definitely a mind fuck with the REC being created like that.
I had the actor focus on the dancer with the spiral necklace, they took a vacation to a small town and she jumped into the multiverse, then back to the writers room
@@piratetv1That was the first one Dean did as well. It seems all actions lead to Alan regardless.
@KimmyQueen watching now. I need to play again
All roads lead to Alan Wake.
Great play through, Dean. The Oldest House as World Tree/Pillar theory being fully confirmed is my favourite thing to come out of this.
Interestingly, the Finnish mythology incarnation of the World Tree is the Sampo, which in the Kalevala is interpreted in the form of a magic mill which creates endless ‘copies’ of anything the user requests out of thin air. It fell into the possession of Ahto (Ahti) and he refused to relinquish it.
In the ATU Index, the ‘tale type’ of the continuous magic mill has the classification number 565, which happens to be the passcode for the locked door in the Dark Place TV studio the second time Alan goes through, at which point it leads directly to Ahti. I theorise that Ahti is indeed the ‘owner’ (caretaker, guardian perhaps) of the Sampo, known to us as The Oldest House.
What do you think? It ties in nicely my big Ahti theory which I won’t bore you with now because this is already a long comment. 😆
P.s. Tale type 665 is also an interesting one as the corresponding Germanic tale has a ‘rule of three’ element to it, as well as a mysterious well-dressed gentleman, and more. I haven’t quite managed to reconcile it with the Remedyverse yet though.
That hair regimen is so Patrick Bateman
I know a lot of people are going to try it now lol
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i cant believe we now have to refer to "coffee" as a sentient, hostile force lol. as ominous as "try the coffee" was, "YOU ARE NOT COFFEE" is even creepier lol. remedy at their most finnish
she might be The Sister, but we do know that he's called her by her name before; he called her faden in AWE. still with you on alan not being an all powerful god and controlling everything, but it feels relevant.
if this was rose's story, we would've had to fight mr drippy lol
ooo, the blessed org popping up again!
Experiencing this DLC with expert lore commentary is truly satisfying. Thanks!
Looking back at this, I find it especially interesting that Time Breaker casts Tim/Shawn as the role of Alice, and "Lisa"/Jesse as Wake, and associates her with the spiral. Lines up with Alan taking Dylan's role, and Dylan being Jesse's "Shadow" as well (and with Dylan's dream visions match up with Alan as well). Makes me think of the two "sets" as "multiversal character complexes" or something - Tim/Alice/Shawn as "The Actor" and Jesse/Alan/Dylan as "The Writer". One wonders if this is where things are going in the end - the two of them vs Door/Hatch.
The Dead Dimension at the end of time (where all realities terminate and die) has only one functional node and it leads back to the genesis of all things. This seemingly expands the scope of what we already know; It is not just Alan's narrative process that loops/spirals confined in a finite chunk of time - it is actually all of existence. However, even if you go back to the exact moment existence is possible - it's implied that you will arrive only to find that Alan was waiting for you in the darkness.
Off that track a bit, it is stated that the reason Door is - compared to other shifters - so sane and powerful is because when he entered the Chronon Cave, he got an overdose of chronon radiation exposure that killed all his other "Doors." He is the most focused, both in ability and cognition, a shifter can be outside of the death of time. His mission to kill all the Jacks/Tims/Seans may be an attempt, for whatever motive, to create a shifter just like himself.
Last bit for this in this tread; It's stated that the resonance based lifeforms (Polaris/Hiss) can kill Alan/Door if they are concentrated into one being and that being acts as a kind of "resonance bomb." It didn't work for Sean because his love for Jesbeth unbalanced him and he released the resonance before ever reaching Door.
To wrap up, we have three possible armies fighting for control of existence;
1) The Taken: Infected and led by the Dark Presence - which itself might just be only Alan's rage and jealousy given formless existence. It is only alien in the sense that it is so primal and insane that it can not be reasoned with and its motives are impossible to understand.
2) The Hiss: Alien intelligence with a resonance-based existence. Much like the Dark Presence - it propagates by infecting other life. Though its process and tactics are able to be comprehended, its motives are inscrutable. It may operate on an elemental or animal like level, infecting others for no logical purpose - it is simply its nature.
3) The Time Keepers: Created and led by Mr. Door, the Time Keepers are the corrupted, soulless dimensional twins of Tim Breaker who seem to act intelligently but without agency; only existing to do the bidding of Warlin Door.
All three armies operate very similarly and, for one motive or other, appear to want to bring about the "Percolation" where all individual minds are combined with one of them to form one homogeneous mind/existence. My speculation is that they all share the same goal or role, to end The Spiral.
3:17:36 is a bald-faced shout out to Joseph Campbell's Hero With a Thousand Faces lol
Lmao, remedy is really playing with the plausible deniability at 2:57:10, they transcribe it as "James S." but the handwriting looks much more like "James J.", aka. Jack Joyce. That's a next level law joke.
The desert and the resonance, just like the dimension in the slide projector.
Unlike #36 which was saturated with resonant energy this one is devoid of it. Also: #36 contained Hedron. I think you see the link
Nice game play. I tuned in half way though the first part and went to go play for myself, and then went right back into watching from the start
Sam isn't playing a trick on Sean, he's playing a trick on us, and I'm here for it
When you called Rose cute but certifiable, my mind immediately pictured a Mew in a little waitress outfit wielding a shotgun and blasting the Taken away as if they stole her Pokénip.
No joke, that was the image that popped into my head. XD
By Mew, I mean the legendary cat Pokémon.
"In the beginning, there was The Word..."
"And the Word was God.."
Wasn't that in dark twisted and cruel
@@beawi994 It is beginning of the Book of John in the Bible. It is a Reference to Genisis of the Bible where YHWH "spoke " Reality into Existence by making Light.
"and it was written on the first page of Destiny's book before ever it was spoken aloud...."
@@jessicahall3645 Sandman reference!
I think that the fact that words are what give shape and maintain the worlds in Remedy Multiverse is a meta-commentary about them itself being fiction, if they weren't written in the real world they wouldn't exist, and only when they are keep using these universes is that they keep existing. You could say that Quantum Break is a dead universe right now, is there are only echoes of it.
Oh god I just realized that Number One Fan is... THE DREAM INSPRATION FOR THE FANFIC.
I finished the DLC a day after Gaming University. Now I am at 3:45:00 and I am thinking someone from Remedy must be watching this channel.
Well I have had Clay and Sam like and share my stuff before. I know they are aware of the channel at the least. This reveal was crazy for me because it was my conception of the Remedyverse way back before Control was even released.
@@GamingUniversityUoG That also kind of sounds like someone might have been inspired a little bit. 😊
We're slowly getting more powerful Parautilitarians be put on the chess board. Jessie Faden as Director, Alan Wake having conquered his paranatural entity, Door, Shawn Ashmore's (Chosen one version) having been to the edge of thought and in full control of his ability to jump across worlds. I wonder if there's a war somewhere at the end of everything and door is trying to manipulate to past in some way. His attempts to hunt down Shawns could have just been a gambit to motivate the right one to ascend. The fact he helped alan could have been an attempt to nudge him in just the right way, the fact he refused to help Jessie's brother who was clearly lost to evil, access the door ways suggests he's got a vision beyond just pure destruction
I loved so much EP3 Time Breaker, it's really a love letter to Quantum Break. I'm so glad Sam didn't forget about his.. cough cough.. """non-canonical""" (my a$$, lol) creation. Seeing Shawn and Courtney together again ❤
And, did you noticed how Shawn is narrating himself like he did in QB? Absolute banger! And I agree with you, Sam is definitely cooking something behind the scenes. God I love so much Remedy and Sam.
P.S: Makes me a little sad we didn't get the other two episodes, one was called "Murder Case" based on Alex Casey (and it's understandable why 😢) and one was called "Altered World Event" and maybe Agent Estevez or Dr.Darling was the playable character.
P.P.S: The Labyrinth ❤ months ago I asked Marko on FB if they still had the "Quantum Break" version of the song, and he said "Yes we have it", I hope one day to hear that one, maybe in a QB Remastered ❤
And yes, the "Bad brother" in the Rose episode gives me strong Mr.Scratch American Nightmare vibes
3:36:26 "I want to know what drugs..." I know this is this a rhetoric question but I kinda do have an answer and we should talk about it. (Im serious! Let me explain)
Look at the vortex in time 3:27:44 and you can see quite caleidoscopic geometry which is often described to be seen in psychedelic trips. More prove that Remedy has thought of this is in the part 2:49:31 where it calls the flashes to be in "psychedelic colors"
I mean the whole text based adventure feels like a mushroom trip. The whole rebirth with higher knowledge thing is very typical for shamanic rituals and common experience using such substances.
Before when describing interdimensional travel they have made metaphopric refeferences to maelstroms, black holes, worm holes and such but now they have also brought psychedelic trips as an addition.
So maybe they really were high doing this lol. Mr Scratch and T. Seine would approve lmao
How about the Time Breaker transference vortex having.... red blood cells?
Also, I feel like there's something with all of these characters "finding" Alan. Like he agreed to write this for Door and made himself the thing these people were chasing, and it bled into the "real world (AW2)" to make sure these important characters ended up helping Alan
I love that at this point, Alan Wake, Control and Quantum Break all could possibly the root origin point of Remedyverse
The chicken or the egg?
Can’t wait for the lore breakdowns! Just finished it, while I’m like warm on the gameplay aspect, I did enjoy my time with the characters I love.
I also did the coffee temperature roast code thing first cause all the clues were right there, but what initiates it otherwise??
I think when you get to the intercom at the workshop. It prompts you to go look. Then the note becomes readable on the table. But it isn't needed. Clues were pretty evident.
Alan took this story down but Rose definitely dreamed it. I think he received all these stories unknowingly
It would be crazy that the 2 missing dlc one of them u would play as barry
You kept asking why Alan would write a story as silly as chapter 1 with Rose… to me it’s obvious. A vigilant fan like her, written into a reality that plays right into her hands; that could make for some serious power. If Alan writes everything exactly like what she would want to hear, can you imagine how driven she might be to ACTUALLY save him? I think Alan knew exactly what he was doing, although it was a pretty desperate attempt, it very well could have worked.
So after listening to the Night Springs theme song way too many times because it's a banger, I found myself wondering if the line about "we live inside a sleeper's dream" right after "cult of the Elder God" was a cheeky reference to Azathoth in addition to nodding back to Alan Wake lore.
In the Polish translation the sleeper is reffered to as a "she"
@@wicher22 Same in the English version. But I still think it's notable.
Yo, episode 1 is so giving Angel With A Shotgun by The Cab. It's been in my head on repeat! 😆
Also I didn't catch the music at the beginning of time breaker was a reference to the music in Twin Peaks
The crazy thing about all of these is that, no matter how deep it may get, these are all still just Night Springs episodes written by Alan. It completely muddies the lore implications because some can be total fabrications for the sake of making his story work and some can be how remedy’s universe works.
Like episode 2 for example. Clearly Alan isn’t Dylan and the FBC isn’t in coffee world and coffee world isn’t actually some government sanctioned hivemind conspiracy. It’s just what Alan wrote for Night Springs.
So how much of the Time Breaker episode is “just Night Springs” and how much of it is real? If you can’t create something from nothing (as Alan believes at least, which is good enough for now) then how much of this multiversal story is canon? It could be that the rules of creating the rules of these multiversal stories was why it was a failed attempt to escape.
There’s new info in there, but given that it’s an episode of Night Springs, it’s hard to tell how much of that info is reliable….and I love it for it. I think it’s incredibly interesting because of it.
We can’t just ask ourselves what that episode means on its own. We have to also ask ourselves what does it mean for reality outside of Night Springs? Because it possibly could only slightly resemble it, like the other 2 episodes.
I’m also wondering if these became real night springs stories in reality. Wonder if Jesse will find the one about her going to coffee world in Control 2 and be like “….Wake, wtf?”
Finally finished all 3 today and excitedly put this on when cooking dinner for the fam. You talked bad on tea drinkers and then confirmed....(haven't gotten there yet, but reference) YOU ARE TEA
I feel like the first episode was only partially influenced by Alan but judging by what we see Alan wearing at the end of the episode I feel like it was fanfiction writen by Rose that was manifested during her possession by Barbra Jager in the first game. Its a world where her fantasies had come to life probably to keep her sedated.
If you replay QB, please stream it 😍
Idk if it was noticed or mentioned, but nobody is referred to by name EXCEPT... Door. Everyone else is "the waiters", "the sheriff", "the sibling", "the actor". Even Sam Lake is only referred to by name once and that's by way of mention from Shawn audibly. But Door is always Door, aside from the quick name drop of the actor variant, Branch.
Awesome stream GU.
Thanks dude!
Just fucking realized that the DLC was out . How did I not know this ??
I think "The sea of night" is just another name for the Dark Place, that would mean the dark place is an in-between space for the multiverse, connecting it to events in all of the RCU (AWE's especially). I've gotten some pushback for it on reddit, but I'm not convinced it's wrong. Thoughts?
I think the only ‘fault’ to your theory is its pretty readily obvious that the Dark Place is the origin of every universe, BUT, I think that could work for your theory REALLY wellz
So… All three episodes end with the protag ending up in the writers room, eh? BUT WAIT, THE SECOND ONE ENDS WITH DYLAN’S CELL? But those circular vents look like the windows and the writers room is kindof a cell, ain’t it? IDK, feels a bit of a stretch but uhhhhhhhh there’s something there.
Alam originally wrote Night Springs or was a writer on it. This is like several attempts at altering reality without success. Though the one where he is the master of many worlds holds some weight.
They mention a Time Knife in the show The Good Place.
this is basiclly rose's version of the dark place as she always wanted a relationship with alan wake
I fucking loved this DLC and cannot wait for more. This universe, this studio, masters of the craft indeed
I only played the first one, Rose's... it's an amazing fanfic style chapter, it's... perfect. Up to the werewolf part... and the werewolf motorcycle. Chef kiss.
It played into the romance novel fan fic tropes but did so with such a remedy flare. Loved it!
Cant wait to hear what Monty Zander will say about this DLC in Lore Dump .... should be very interesting.
I know he's a friend of the channel.
You guys are my top content creators wheb it comes to Remedy stuff
Haha same here! I'm waiting for them to sit down and do that recording. If they they thought this series was bonkers before
Given that Alice plays the role of Shawn in the text adventure section, is it possible that there's a version of Alice who is a Shifter?
Alan posing as Jessy's brothee makes me think of the possibility Alan becoming the Director himself.
I may have forgotten some information, but the part with the dead universe and the black pages makes me wonder if Alan unintentionally created the hiss resonance. If all it takes to form a universe is a poem or just words, and if Alan wrote the Hiss chant, along with time being meaningless in the dark place, is it possible that Alan writing the Hiss chant created the universe the Hiss originated from which eventually died and made the resonance based life that became it. Because of the dark place's properties, it potentially wouldn't have mattered when he wrote the Hiss chant. It would have always been that.
I both hate and love that we went from "Alan created the Hiss!" to "No, Alan just created the chant. The Hiss already existed." to "Alan created the Hiss!"
Time is truly circular lmao
@ 3:46:00 - Sort of off-topic for what you were talking about but do you think if Polaris was all that was left in her dead universe (well her and The Hiss), do you think thats why she "went with" Jesse for lack of a better term? Like she was in a dead reality, nothing left except her opposite/enemy (The Hiss), so she would rather become a guardian angel type entity and attach herself to young Jesse. Sort of a form or symbiosis (I think that's the term?) they are helping each other even though they aren't the same and don't necessarily have the same goal, or at least didn't have the same goal until The Hiss were released into The Oldest House.
I mean it is a possibility. I don't think we have enough information to formalize that hypothesis but its something I'm thinking about right now.
40:10 My mother's a Stephen King fan. I am going to get her to watch me play this specifically. I will upload the video if you chime me $50. 😆😆😆
Bro Haha!
I have absolutely loved Alan Wake since 2010, - Control and Alan Wake 2 are equally incredibly awesome and amazing, (and American Nightmare), I really, really enjoyed this DLC, - considering the story behind this three-piece DLC is these are stories Alan Wake has written in failed attempts at escape, so the final piece you can only find your way to Alan as that was his plan, - an attempt to use his gift to find a way to help him escape
I like the idea that the 2nd episode is basically a skeleton built upon some core concepts of the same thing that became control. It has several similar thoughts, but going different ways. It is familiar, but not a carbon copy. It's not a 1=1 'oh it is this like This from control is now That here. But once the symbols are pulled away and the core ideas are on the table, you really see the connections and similarities.It's like someone pitching an idea for a tv show, and it turns this way, but if you pitch it on a book it might turn a completely different way. (which is amusing, a one episode tv show vs a long story comparison)
The moment you realise Alan wrote bad fanfiction about himself xD
Alan, you have some issues bud?
I think he uses Rose as a ghostwriter
As someone said... The Lake absorbed it, he decided to use it, maybe in desperation, to see if it would help him escape... But it had to be TRUE. He had to write it in her style, or it wouldn't be true. Even if he did it as a form of practice because he was feeling blue about his situation and not very positive about his writing he was still able to use elements of it in his actual escape. 5D chess
I was so excited when I saw the trailer and then I saw it was available «Right Now» 🤩 Woohoo!
Goodness I am 10min in and already laughing so much! 😂 They really went all in with the Rose fanfic 😝 This is hilarious!
*edited to remove a spoiler from the book I shouldn’t have typed
Have you read the Quantum Break novel? It’s another multiverse version of the game and I swear they reference Beth’s fate in that book in the comic section of this DLC. And the bullet of light in AW2 appears in the QB novel as well.
I started reading Zero Point but never finished it. Interesting. I'll have to finish it to catch up on those details.
@@GamingUniversityUoG I’m about to reread it too! It was a book with the free range to include abandon story elements (or those too costly) from the game’s development stage. It’s interesting to read “Quantum Break: The secret history of time travel” where they document the development processes too. The novel Zero State is not considered canon to the game. But in San Lake’s foreword for the book he says since it’s more of a multiverse story you can kinda consider the book another version of how their story played out.
While you read the words about reading the words, a thought came to me. "You get the gist of the song now?"
So is the army of Shawn Ashmores The Board?
Nah lol. Any variation of this character wouldn't be an ass to Jesse.
I'm watching this days late but i fully agree with 1:03:40- ish time stamp that Rose probably sees the world this way. I think since her run in with Cynthia, Rose lives in this almost haze-like state where she sees things differently than everyone else, in a very rose-colored glasses type of way. Even before this DLC, i imagined Rose went around killing Taken with a smile and not fully realizing that this was a dangerous situation she was putting herself in. I'd like to think with this DLC, it supports that because I can see this bleeding over into the real world and that being the reason Rose always seems so out there and creepy at times.
First Episode is likely blended with Rose's fiction, it's similar in tone to the lunchbox scraps of fiction.
In the epilogue cutscene of the first game Rose takes over as the "Lady of the Light", which is kind of a protector role for Bright Falls.
Rose was also touched by the dark presence.
However, her fiction can't actually affect reality to the same extent as Alan's.
As Control's DLC shows, not everyone is capable of harnessing the power to affect reality with writing, look at Hartman who is technically a highly educated man, but one who lacks the "creative spirit".
Rose has that "creative spirit", it's just not honed to the extent where it could be used to its full potential.
The second Episode seems to be an earlier draft written by Alan for the plot of Control as a short story.
The third Episode is really interesting, as it ties in Quantum Break with the rest of the Remedy-verse, however it seems like it was quite rushed.
I can't tell if I'm grasping or if it's a thing, but background characters in both episode 1 and episode 3 looked familiar to me. I felt like they looked like the agents that were there when the FBC interrupted Saga and took Wake away in the base game, but I'd have to go back into AW2 and get to that part to see their faces again then compare to dinner customers and set crew from ep1 and 3. I know for sure some of the faces in ep. 1 show up in ep. 3 and the friend watching me play noted that one of the ladies looked like the agent in charge during base game. Notably the FBC agent Saga met at the FBC monitoring station doesn't seem look familiar to me as any of the background folks in the dlc. It's Remedy so I don't know if it means something or I'm just misremembering or if devs are using similar faces to mess with our heads (or reuse some assets).
Has anyone else noticed this or am I drinking too much of the coffee?
Episodes 2 and 3 definitely feell ike paraphrased retellings of Control and Quantum Break. Which would make episode 1 what, Alan Wake or American Nightmare or something? Episode 2 has the strongest parallels with "The Sibling" paraphrasing a lot of Jesse's dialogue even. From the whole "This is going to be strange" and panning down from the Coffee World sign to the Hiss / Coffee paralel I felt like this was a seriously abridged version of Control.
3:30:00 note that Ahti stands outside the frame, in The Sea Of Night with the ripples.
Sam was only the assistant director. Is door the director?
Dean, I'm sorry you had these technical issues with the audio. I hate when that kind of stuff happens, especially if it diminishes how I perceive the quality of something I'm making. For what it's worth, it's still totally listenable, and I'm still watching the whole video.
To the people in chat being like "the audio was echoey, but it's fine now" - you were unfortunately mistaken. It only sounds fine because what you were hearing at the time wasn't a good barometer to be able to tell one way or the other. It was consistently echoey throughout most of that section, and there were never any moments where it was "fine now". If Dean's getting conflicting info about how it sounds, and he can't hear it on his end, it can make it really difficult to troubleshoot problems like that. If you don't know for sure, or can't tell, don't guess based on sparse information. Wait until you can hear someone talking where it's obvious before saying it's better, otherwise you're just adding confusion. That's my two cents.
source: having dealt with many technical issues that I couldn't personally experience on my end, audio and video. It's so frustrating... Why can't technology just work?
I hate when I have these. Causes them to be a permanent upload with the mistake. What can I do though.