Spider-Man 4 has to be street-level
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Spider-Man 4 is arguably the most anticipated MCU movie after the masterpiece that was No Way Home. With rumors of Sony getting involved with the film for the worse, so in this video I explain why the next MCU Spider-Man movie needs to be grounded and avoid the multiverse.
• Spider-Man 90's Animat... and • MCU Spider-Man Theme |... courtesy of @samuelkimmusic
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:56 - No Way Home is great, BUT
01:36 - New supporting cast
02:33 - Devil's Reign
03:16 - DAREDEVIL!!
04:19 - Other villains
05:15 - Other heroes
06:39 - Peter at his lowest
08:05 - Peter Parker is good, actually
08:30 - PLEASE KEEP THE FINAL SWING SUIT
09:02 - Outro - Zábava
Madame Web is currently bombing as you read this so surely it means Sony don't still try and force their universe into the MCU right???
...right?????????
knowing sony… no 😝🤭🙏🔥🙏🔥💋🤭🗣️🔥👊
Well the MCU isn’t doing any good either I don’t trust anything they do after watching the marvels
I think a major reason why Spiderman and multiverse gets meshed together is because many writers let the meta-commentary into the character. Spiderman is Marvel's Mascot so of course, he will be featured in these massive cosmic events on his own. But yeah, I want to see Peter Parker and Black Cat get into a romantic fling because that is something we have not seen before in live action.
@@the_mikeanator Terrible take
Screw sony. Web flopping miserably is perfect.
I think No Way Home set up the idea of Peter feeling like he hurts everyone around him, so having him be Spider-Man 24/7 to hide from being Peter is a great idea
@Follow God:God loves you repent it will be worth it God bless you all💕💜♥️
So he becomes Batman basically?
@@elixer4life497i guess you could say so. Like at the end of Arkham knight he fakes his death to fully be Batman.
Just need a reboot without Tom Holland 😊
@@CreedM8 nah Tom’s great
All Madame Web accomplished was showing that Sony has no idea what they're doing.
It's incredible how Sony is simply incapable of doing a good blockbuster film on their own. What was the last good Sony Blockbuster other than the Marvel Spider-Man films?
Nothing. That's why they threatened to destroy the MCU's progress twice. First by trying to gatekeep Holland and now with trying to forcibly insert horrible movies into the other universe. To the point of LYING to actors and actresses to accomplish that.@@lucashen9686
More like not knowing how most of the spider man characters work, and it seems that Sony is good at making live action spider man movies
@@lucashen9686 What about the animated spiderverse films?
@@MWLE.EDITZ.. I meant live action.
Tbh my stress levels on this movie is high
@Follow God:God loves you repent it will be worth it God bless you all💕💜♥️
the mcu hasn't done anything but stress me out, bore me, and annoy me for about a decade now with the only exception being the guardians trilogy, they completely lost my patience regarding tom holland's character
@@shealupkes I think they’re starting to realize this but Sony isn’t if they ruin the spider man movies it’s rlly going to mess me up cause there is so much they can do with the movie.
@@Mr_super_Legend I find it very confusing how they boast how much stuff is in a film yet in reality put in very little beyond a massive cast and references
@@shealupkes true they should focus on making the stuff that worked before but in a different new way.
Marvel Studios wants to make Spider-Man 4 a street level movie whereas Sony is trying to force Tobey and Andrew into Spider-Man 4
one would hope tobey appears in his own movie
Tbh. Even if the street level movie would be better for Tom hollands Peter, I can’t deny that I would rather see Andrew and Tobey back 😅
@@unge1483 levels of soy in your blood is too high
i do like another tobey and andrew cameo in spiderman 4 but i think spiderman 4 should focus more on peter's life after the event from NWH
Because they are smart and know it’s the only way to make billions
At this point, Sony just need to return the film rights to Marvel. Sony is kinda abusing their spiderman film rights.
They should just focus on making animated stand alone Spiderman movies. They seem to be good at that.
@@bigmojo704yup spiderverse is a really good franchise they need to stick it and leave action live movies to mcu(even though they a little ass right now). And no Andrew Garfield’s spiderman movies were trash we don’t need a 3rd movie
@@angelmaldonado5657all Sony need to do is make spiderverse films fr all they gotta do
@@criminalcurt yeah they should put all the resources there and let marvel do there thing
@@angelmaldonado5657 Ehh, TASM 1 isn’t a bad movie, it has it’s problems but it’s pretty solid, TASM 2 is definitely bad on the other hand. I agree with everything else you said, though.
This could literally be the best peter parker spider-man movie since Raimi's spider-man 2 PLEASE GOD let it work out
@Follow God:God loves you repent it will be worth it God bless you all💕💜♥️
every peter parker spider-man movie has that possibility...
@@Antwannnn yeah but this is somehow different there were 3 movies that build up a story i mean aren’t you excited?? 🙂
@@raulbognar1584 eh. We'll see. I have to see the writers/directors
Btw I am skeptical of how Peter's gonna fight the kingpin because spiderman would one shot him blind folded. There has to be more powerful villains working for kingpin
plot prediction: The government has no idea who Peter is so he’s arrested for life.
The next hour of the movie should be Peter’s life in prison
Actually, if everyone forgot who he is, wouldn't the records and stuff still be fine?
@@midgetydeath, does that also mean any records of Peter Parker being Spider-Man would also survive? I feel like Strange may have done something to expunge the records idk
@@ringedomnivore9491i think it would have to, because his friends would've still had pictures with him + all of the media about his identity would've revealed it again
would love to see it be focused around Spider-Man's mafia villains with Kingpin reveal at the end for a tease for a teamup movie, the next Spider-Man shouldn't be a teamup movie
Too much time for live action. People age. Spidey 4 needs to be exactly what this video says.
Why would they do that when there are so many Spider-Man villains that haven't appeared yet?
I agree, the movie should be focused on Peter Parker and his sort of rebirth as a hero, not a mini Civil War movie
@@vesha6274 would love to see Spider-Man’s mafia villains in a movie
the only thing wrong about this video is that if sony fucks this up… WE are making the national news
Bro................ Ima be there too!
oh god i just died from cringe reading this comment
@@mavielor7394well it’s Spider-Man lol
Kevin Feige would be an idiot to work with Sony after Madame Web's failure. Doesn't Sony have enough? They already have the Spiderverse Duology and they should be working on the third Spiderverse movie to complete the trilogy. Sony is only good for animated spiderman multiverse movies
They still need to work toghter iven if you like or not because tom is bout mcu and sony. Iven if i see People saving tom spiderma is only mcu that is not true is still part off the spiderman multiverse or they couldet mention him inn across the spiderverse. But I heard they have Come to deal where 80 % Will be street and 20 mutliverse. 80 inn mcu and 20% multiverse. And that is also good deal for mcu
@@carinahatlevoll153fuck does 80% street level 20% multiverse mean? If the multiverse is in the movie it’s gonna be a multiverse movie. Like unless it’s a cameo or blink and you miss it, it won’t be street level with multiverse threats
@@cavemanbuddyolpal it means have the movie street but one off hhe spiderman tobey, Andrew or miles comes inn true the end and also have them inn thw Credits.
Marvel has no choice, Sony owns the rights to Spider-man movies, without their approval there are no movies.
imo The Devil's Reign would work better if it was the center of the 3 films, with the first one ending with Fisk getting elected as mayor, the second one instauring the official anti-heroes police and the third one being the reunion of all the heroes, or even make a non-spiderman movie that is the ending of the Devil's Reign story, so that all the characters have more spotlight and not only spidey and dd
I think the next trilogy will have something to do with venom
@@gh05tW hopefully, if they do it right it can be the best potrayal of Venom yet. Just hopefully not in the 4th one, I'm thinking the 5th he should appear and then lead into the sixth.
@@anthonydemeo8958 That's a good idea, showing the effects of the black suit in the 5th one and leaving the 6th as a follow up
knowing Peter's going to be in a low emotional state, what better even to happen for the next trilogy, than the "Alien Costume?"
seeing how Secret wars was how Peter first encountered the alien symbiote on battleworld, perhaps he could gain it during that time and return to wear it for one of the new movies, and hopefully not just get rid off immediately, he wore it for a long time!
Yeah for once I want to see the black suit not have be put on by Peter and turned into venom within one movie again
@@cavemanbuddyolpal dude, Peter wore the Black suit for *4 years!*
@@snarffles5687 yeah I’m agreeing with you?
@@cavemanbuddyolpal I think you are yeah XD
That would take like until 2030. hope Tom will do it so long 😅 he even said after no way home that he doesn’t know if he will even continue. I think He continues, but with that in mind I don’t think he will do it for 6 more years. Let’s hope.
I wish it.
I dont want anymore "cameos" or other superheroes it feels like theyve finally built up to a solo spiderman film where he really will have to fend for himself, i really do not wanna see bloody ant man show up as another guide figure
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
@@UkeShrum what's blud yapping about
I think daredevil works perfectly in this kind of movie though. I don't want anyone else but daredevil works
Sadly that's not happening apparently part of the Sony-Marvel deal is that a Major MCU must appear in MCU Spider man movie everytime
Tony in HC,Fury in FFH,and Dr Strange in NWH so ya no solo adventures for him
This is solid. I hope Sony is finally learning after the Madame Webb reception that they just need to trust in Feige.
I don’t trust feige
@@Spider-Guy62 Same
Feige is the lesser of those two evils. Sony on their own are just absolute fools wasting millions on projects THEY don't even want to see
@@Spider-Guy62That's toxic
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 so I don’t
This sounds more like an outline for a trilogy rather than a single film. Having it spread throughout separate movies will allow the side characters room to actually make an impact without taking away from peters story. Giving tombstone and hammerhead their own movies makes it feel like they are bosses leading up to kingpin at the end where all of the side heroes can truly shine as you mentioned at the end.
I think a decent set up for Mj and harry's green goblin could be that harry is currently dating mj or gwen.
I love the idea of Harry dating MJ, such a natural way to include both of them in the movie
Harry being a rich socialite dating a struggling model in MJ who is with him for status but love meeting Peter and seeing him as good person who reminds her of her lower middle class roots she's trying to escape from? Perfect
@@richborn6700 great idea
They shud cast Timothee Chalamet as Harry
@rn6700 but she got into MIT? Imagine swapping that just to try and get into the modelling industry?
Peter's suit might have a few changes to sell toys and merchandise.
Also, this is probably the perfect setup for this spider-man to turn comic accurate like the spider-man comics. Green goblin, Death of gwen stacy, harry osborn, maybe a new MJ, hobgoblin, etc.
I would like to see the Black suit at some point during the trilogy, so that it can show the darkness that Peter has inside and at the end of let's say the 5th film, he could get rid of it and starts to open up again to people
I would like to see him get it during secret wars
That's a good idea, bro... Only problem is that it seems like sony thinks good ideas are for pussies.
@@Swedishfish_sf he gets the suit in the secret wars because that's normally when he gets the blacks suit
@alexjackyperson101 that's exactly why I want him to get it during secret wars
Keep Tobey, Andrew, Zendaya, Ned and anything Iron Man, Avengers and multiverse-related concepts away from Spider-Man 4. They should start fresh for Tom’s Peter. Have him meet his own Harry Osborn, Gwen Stacy, and even Miles. Dive more into Aaron Davies and introduced new villains that can keep him at a street level. Daredevil should be the only other hero that Spider-Man interacts with in NYC. Then later on for Secret Wars, bring Tobey and Andrew back to interact with Tom, also have Tobey interact with Wolverine there too.
Tbh I got nothing to argue with this is a actually good idea I just hope we see something like this in the movies
Yeah honestly mj being absent for atleast one movie to help setup another love interests feels necessary
I'm so surprised this only has 141 views this video is absolutely magnificent I agree with everything you said, Sony needs to shut up and let marvel do its thing. And again, amazing video.
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the thing is that tom holland also wants street level story for spiderman, so he keeps rejecting the studio until they bring up a good story
Yes. We have had globe hopping and a multiversial threat. Spidey needs to return to the ground, so to speak.
Everything you said in this video is a GREAT idea. And from rumors I’ve heard, it almost sounds like it’s mostly what they are gonna do. Another thing with him feeling grief and anger and all that: I feel like that could perfectly set the stage for him getting the symbiote since a piece of it did get left in the MCU in the end credits scene of NWH.
I like this idea, all I would add is a nice after credit scene for Deadpool to pop up!
I completely agree bro. I think SM4 should be a Spiderman and Daredevil duo film with the big villain being Kingpin
I really want to see Spider-Man team-up with Daredevil, Punisher, Echo, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Colleen Wing, Misty Knight, and Kate Bishop to take down Kingpin.
You have a great future ahead of you with this quality of videos man. Can't wait to see you make it big!
6:40 “with Peter at his Lois” 💀
This is honestly such a great take. I wish more people like you were in charge of how these movies were made haha.
thank you for drawing the line in the sand about the final swing suit. i stand with you brother
I think it should be as street level as Homecoming was in the sense that it's just peter being a college kid but also should contain that balance of a secret identity since he has no one now to cover up for him.
hey man, the algorithm is gonna bless you on this one, keep up the amazing work and I’d love to collab sometime!
Thank you so much and that would be so cool!
Awesome video! As a massive Spider-Man fan myself, I've been dying to see a Daredevil and Spidey team up to take down Fisk and other villains he hires. Sony should be taking notes and realize that the Multiverse needs to take the back seat. Marvel Studios knows what they're doing.
underrated video, i agree with pretty much everything that was said
Love the takes and agree on the keeping that peak suit, however… add some web wings, and come on you gotta throw the black suit in there for Spider-Man 5/6
If they want this movie to succeed, they have to keep it street level. That is essential.
Also can I get the link to that background music? It’s dope.
bg music sounds like it's Samuel kim's no way home fan made theme. i think it's the one with tom's spider-man theme added in.
I've got it linked in the description!
@@WholeShebangYT thanks!
Truer words never spoken.
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Devils reign would be great. Secondarily, the symbiote preying on Peters loneliness could be interesting as well.
Absolutely AMAZING video. I didn't know a lot of the points you made in it, so this was a good refresher for me on what Spider-Man's been up to. Also, you're right. Keep Sony away from here
Thank you!
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I like the story. I would hold off on having multiple heroes in this one though. Like the home trilogy, you could have one bonus hero in each movie. In this one it's Daredevil, in the 5th it could be a reintroduced Luke Cage or another MCU hero. The 6th movie could end the Fist storyline by bringing in multiple heroes.
Sony hate ? Instant sub 🎉
@@kels2624 have anything to do with spiderman
Sony and Sony Pictures are different groups
A few things that would be cool.
1. It would be nice if they explored the fact that he knows about the other two MJs fates and thats the reason why he's hesitant to be part of her life.
3. Everything you said.
2. He's literally lost everyone and has no support structure so it would be cool to see him fight whatever villain they choose while, battling not to lose his mercy/compassion.
I have a whole other video planned about the MJ and Gwen fate idea, it should be a huge part of the trilogy and a real unique take on the character
@@WholeShebangYT please do i will def watch it.
Black Cat is a must!
Symbiote trilogy would be good if they actually paced it out
Also i want the chameleon, scorpion or even Smythe and his spider slayers
There's so many cool characters they've got that we could go a while without even attempting ock or goblin
This sounds great, Lets see what happens
Thank you I don't know about others but this is what I would want out of the next spiderman movie
this video KEEPS SHOWING UP ON MY FEED, i never played spiderman, i dont even play games, what stree-level even means? IT PISSES ME OFF AND MAKES ME INTERESTED IN CLICKING TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL STREET LEVEL MEANS
I basically agree with everything in the video. The one thing is that I have to point out, is this would be a lot for one singular movie (unless it's 3 hours). So I think it'd be best they split it into a subsequent one: Where this one is as you said, street-level, but more focused on creating a foundation for the villains and Fisk, and the next one to be about a possible version of the symbiote for the MCU with the inclusion of Black Cat just like in the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon series. (But then again, the cartoon managed in less than an hour of episodes, most of that).
I said it tons of times for months now... I really want a Scorpion-BlackCat-Kingpin and co. type of movie for Spiderman 4 💯🥂
Scott Lang could be an interesting figure for Peter at this point.
Scott hit absolute rock bottom before he became Ant Man so he knows what it takes to rebuild a life, and how to maintain both aspects of it when one is a superhero.
no more mentors PLEAAASSEEEEE why does this Peter always need a mentor in the form of another superhero
@@deanmoriarty6015 it's part of their contract but it's good as Cameos only
So on point -- fingers crossed for the street-level Spidey 4!
They could probably have SM4 be a street-level movie and do what the 90's cartoon did and have Madame Web make a brief cameo (albeit with GOOD writing), having her give cryptic warnings and whatnot of something greater on the horizon. Hell, maybe that could lead to another multiverse movie down the line similar to that of Spider-Geddon or something. I dunno, that makes sense in my head, but could also be pretty wishful thinking.
You had me convinced as soon as you said Black Cat. Say no more!
THIS VIDEO! You said it!!!! I have nothing to add.
i genuinely hope they do your idea
like if they just straight up copied your idea that would be awesome
Get this man IN THE WRITING ROOM
Damn... a video essay that actually brings new ideas?? WHO would've thought a video like this would be so damn good.
I hope we get everything you just described, if we get that we’re golden.
Spider Man 4 is coming out before Avengers The Kang Dynasty and Avengers Secret Wars
Amazing video!!! I agree with everything you said!! This sounds like a perfect Spider-Man movie. 😄😄😎😎💯💯💯💙💙💙✨✨✨
Exactly This the perfect idea couldn’t said it better myself . I can also see Liz from homecoming be black cat. And in the end credits when peter goes to his university or the feast center he somehow meets a young miles morales and realizes he also has spider powers. The Spider-Man 2 video game I think perfectly passed the torch to miles . Which I think will happen eventually and would be a perfect way to do it. I think they will because Tom holland contract almost over
the relationship between perter and matt in the ultimate universe was gold
I love your idea
I completely agree.
Hold up! LET HIM COOK
So basically, dont make it a big scale story but also bring in a ton of external characters.
This man’s already writing my dream Spider-Man movie
I think antman should also try to warn peeter about kang
I'm begging marvel to change the logo on the back with the comic acurate one
Yoooo bringing in black cat would be awesome
All of your ideas really are great but I think ned should definitely return in the fifth movie maybe as a villain something that will really mess with Spider-Man but I really agree with all of your ideas and yes street level is exactly what we need Sony is not it
I think it’d be sick if this movie had the same tone as the batman (2022)
The story you suggested should be a trilogy of movies. Daredevil should appear in Spider Man 5, and Hawkeye and Kate in SM 6. Kingpin is the main villian for 3 movies, with iconic spider man villians being standalone movie villians. Maybe have them recurring to eventually form the sinister six.
Great video but honestly I can’t expect anything like this from the mcu 💔
I think if we just have one crime lord like Hammerhead to fill the void that’d work, unless Tombstone was a henchman having that many crime lord subplots would be conflicting to the main arc. one thing that I’ve been really tired of when it comes to MCU Spider-Man is him constantly having to have a mentor to “guide” him. Spidey should be on his lonesome by now with daredevil doing a tag team in bits of the film, no ant man, black cat as a subplot with the venom storyline. Peter needs to fight his own internal battles this time, especially with the symbiote taking over
I honestly feel like there’s 2 directions this’ll go
1: peter will go into a depressed/enraged state & somehow take on the symbiote (if they go down this route I hope he’ll become a anti-hero rather than a villain)
2: he becomes a regular friendly neighborhood wall-crawler like he was intended to be originally
Kingpin's mayoral run is the for the plot of Daredevil Born Again.
Just the thought of a Daredevil & Spidey movie makes me grin. Sony needs to get hacked by North Korea again to learn its place. Also Scorpion working for Kingpin is a great idea!!!
Ever since last year I freaking enjoy the awesome Netflix/MCU's Daredevil series with Charlie Cox after I was first introduced to the character in No Way Home, so I do hope that Marvel Studios and Sony would make a Spider-Man movie crossover with Daredevil. 🤞🏼
I haven't seen venom so idk if that dynamic would really work, but the venom story is usually one that focuses on the identity of spiderman and what that means, so he honestly could be a good villain choice too.
6:57 Peter really said “I can fix her”
Really enjoyed this! However, why didn't you bring up the possibility of Miles Morales appearing in Spider-Man 4?
I think he should be saved for further down the line when Peter is in a more stable position and can mentor him properly
@@WholeShebangYT Same here. Have Miles cameo at the end of Spider-Man 4, then give him a more prominent role in the following films.
@@Grant_Scarboro👍
@@Grant_Scarborolet's just leave him out for another trilogy. let peter shine and mature and we can have miles later down the road. and peter can be like tony stark to miles. and finally kill him off heroically or something.
it'll work actually
100 percent agree with every point it would be so amazing
I really like how they swap Peter's suit every movie, keeps it fresh
They have the most perfect lob in the air for Peter. They could send him back to school, they could get him to work, they could get the daily buggle in there with a funny irony, you could introduce really any villain, you could introduce new characters more specifically harry, and it’ll literally go perfect with just a little bit of sense in the writing room
I think the true power of kingpin in daredevil, was his cleverness and manipulation of the people. If kingpin becomes mayor and convinces the people of new york that Spider-man and all the other vigilantes are the source of the city´s problem, that would such a flavourful nuance to the movie. Like peter would already be unsure of his dedication to a spider-man prioratized life, But now also everyone hates his alter ego when he just tries to do the right thing?? That could be interesting
This would be perfect being that Peter now has experience being a framed criminal so this would mature his character helping them uncover the truth
Man, that's so compact.
0:09 No friends. No Family. No bitches. I'm sold on your content. I'm subscribing
Sony needs to take notes
Yes Street Level pls
I'm not sure about the gravity of Peter's secret identity as of currently. He's all alone at this point- no friends, no family, no personal relation as "Peter Parker" that means anything. There's just not much risk to villains finding out about him if he chooses to continue being alone.
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im way too excited for something that's going to come out in 2 years AHHHH its painful
This is a great idea
For some reason, I'm really hoping they're making the fight between the studio and sony so public to make people talk about it so they can get feedback from the fans. I only sorta believe this since Sony's plan for the next movie makes absolutely no sense for how they set anything up while the studio's plan just makes too much sense.