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"Speedruns have all sorts of incredible skips, but one thing you won't want to skip is this video's sponsor."
No, I will. :) I'm doing a video speedrun. ^^
@jbalexandar7211 your game looks like complete shut
You and Summoning Salt make me like learning about speedruns even though I never tried one before
I'm happy you're here!
You should check out Tomatoanus. His speedrun explained vids are incredible.
Karl Jobst is good, too, when he's not in the middle of being harassed by creepy old conmen.
@@shadowhenge7118apples and oranges. Rwhitegoose too and plenty others if were going the apples route.
you should try.
small correction: sadness lowers your limit gauge growth, not ATB speed.
Was about to type that.
If you used a slow spell, or spider wen against yourself.
Really interesting stuff. It's cool to see how far speedrunning this game has come in 20 years. Just to clarify, my claim that sub-7 would never happen was about glitchless runs, so that still stands true 😉
Huge nostalgia rush seeing your name pop up in the video I remember reading your posts and guides on GameFAQs back in the day. Thanks for some fun times pushing FFVII to its limit.
No need to explain, you're an absolute FFVII legend!
Yo! Awesome seeing you here! I've been subscribed to you for years now!
@@GamingRobiotohe's still doing that with FF7
Du e en ff7 guru! Hjerte fra bodø❤
When Tifa missed 9 times in a row, I felt that in my soul.
I felt that in my Power Soul! 😂
Ikr, it was a critical moment that didn't deliver.
The RNG for misses is badly programmed. One time Caleb missed like 17 times in a row.
@@BigBoyAdvance not to mention the poison not sticking on Materia Keeper for i think 13-14 times in a row...
keep in mind Bio has a roughly 60% chance each time, that not happening 13-14 times in a row is astronomically high.
This is really an underrated genre, I love how you summarize such sweeping changes in the speedrun community in an entertaining and well paced way. Keep up the amazing content.
When I was a kid in the 90s playing this game it took me 6 1/2 hours just to get out of Midgar.
Yeah same! Still takes around 5 hours. But I love every minute of it
The slums have that godly music though, so you can just say you was enjoying the music & nobody would ever question it lol
I had already been a fan of the series, and I was starting to think that Midgar would be the setting for the entire game. At first, that upset me. But, after spending as much time there as the rest of you in this thread, I became totally fine with the idea that this would be the first FF without a world map to explore. You can imagine my elation when I put in disc 2...
@@DrunkenHotei and then you put in disc 3 after getting the highwind...
@@DrunkenHotei You have access to the world map in the first disk. What are you on about?
Damn, I remember seeing Caleb in nothing but those rage compilations. I figured he was mentally ill and needed some serious help
Just stress man. He's in his room by himself anyway. Bro can bust the whole place up if he wants lmao
Mental illness and speedrunner venn diagram is just a circle
I know this is a pretty late reply, but I want to clarify good for him if he's gotten better.
35:00 trying to decide if it's ironic or not that the "right arm" is the important weapon to use in the barret/dyne fight...
good vid but sadness doesn't affect speed of ATB bar, it affects speed of limit break bar
came here to say this exact thing.
Yeah, I don't think runners would use Sadness if it affected the ATB bar.
My cousin showed me this game when I was around 8 or so. The dark themes, amazing story, great music, good graphics, and massive size was like nothing I had ever experienced. This is still one of my top favorite games of all time. There is just a special emotion that is created every time I see or hear anything ff7.
Same! In my case my brother got it for his birthday, first time experiencing an RPG. It was bizarre and the bombing mission cinematic was thrilling, like doing something bad but necessary. We had no idea how to save on the first day and we got owned by using lightning on the scorpion boss. We thought magic was bad, until my brother understood a tiny bit of how to use materia when Tifa explained it. And in my case I used the buster sword until the end of Disc 2, casting regen on enemies (I thought it was rain). As a kid from Europe, my English sucked. :P
You have made this history lesson feel like an adventure with characters to root for. Heh, great job!
20:52 Correction: Sadness halves the rate that the LIMIT bar fills, so Big Guard has no effect on Sadness.
This comment needs pinning.
@@mopeybloke also the enemy skill mentioned around 15:45 wouldn't be the first one you get, right? certainly not if you wanted to have big guard / death sentence in disc 1.
@@willmathesoncorrect but maybe they skip that? I haven't actually watched a full run lmao😂
FFVII got me through my parent's divorce at age 14. It tickles me to no end to see speedrunners absolutely destroying it.
It was my little safe place too lol, this is so crazy to me.
It was also mine when I was 16. Got me through a tough time
Downloading the remake right now, sadly to young to have played the first on ps1, but I shall start the journey on my ps4 now
@@allrebel5943Nice
@@allrebel5943that it not the same
Remake only covers the first two hours of the story
Play the original
Really random, but by any chance could you tell me what song at 9:41 is? It sounds familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
That's a song that Novadrome made for me by commission, I've been using it for about two years now I think.
@@AbyssoftThen I think I just heard it from your channel haha. It was driving me crazy. I was looking through Legend of Mana, Kingdom Hearts, Chocobo Dungeon, Luigi's mansion..god I'm so relieved now.
@@TheWorldofDaveit sounds *very* similar to Vivis theme in FF IX
@@randalthor2859 it is
The one rpg without an accuracy up spell, and one of the only ones where you would ever use it.
It's actually incredible that there's a trick in a speedrun I found out myself when experimenting when I first played the game at 11 years old (making the Zolom bonk on the map so it doesn't have time to get you). I felt so damn proud back then.
Super interesting video about my favourite game of all time, subbed
Same here lol
I made it a game within the game to try and find a way to beat the Zolom on foot. I've only ever done it once or twice to my recollection, but it felt so good!
It's incredibly easy to do just by accident, I was surprised that speedrunners even bothered to do the save/reload
Can still remember thinking I was all that when I got Knights of the Round in 14 hours (had awesome RNG with breeding a gold chocobo and I got out of Midgar in 2 hours instead of the 4 it takes for a casual play). This was back in 2001 I believe, so no glitches, just lots of dialogue skips and optimized materia and weapon loadouts.
Great video Abyssoft, I had many many fun hours with this game so it beings back some good memories for me.
Just wanted to say that the quality of your docs have only been going up and up. This is a really well put together piece, well scripted and well informed. Kudos mate :)
excellent work explaining all the subtleties of the run, I hope this video makes numbers, you deserve it
So much great time watching Davesterio play FFVII. Ajneb's run at GDQ with Dave and J2 is still the best run of all time.
i thinks its criminal how long it's taken this run to get any kind of notoriety. after watching the efforts of kuma and zheal for so long this video makes me so happy
I believe not many people who are not in the speedrun-community themselves would watch through the whole 1.30 hour long FF7 speedrun history. But I'm one of them. Thanks Abyssoft for your thorough explanations for those who don't understand anything in s-running, well-paced script and genuinly pleasant voice. To me you're the best "speedrun-history guy" on YT, keep up the good work.
Don't want to start a pissing contest but there is also summoning salt
When I first played FF7, it was a Japanese Demo, I had no idea on how to cross the Zolom Marsh since I couldn’t understand the language. Also, I didn’t have a memory card on my first runs, but I manage outrun the creature, winning the race by a millisecond! Yes, the Zolom got me a few times, but since it “kicks” one party member at the beginning of the fight, I didn’t get a game over.
I love these "World Record History of X game" videos content creators have been making these past few months/years. 90% of them are for games I've never even played but they still always end up being super entertaining.
Cant wait to see Caleb raging
Thank you for putting in the time and dedication to the video. I really enjoyed it!
solid video got the nostalgia feels goin, definitely things left out but there has been so much history with the game you could make a 3 hour video, I feel it covered most of the different eras very well good job :D
You the carnage from the video? So awesome when runners pop up in speed run history video comments
@jevonphillips2672 yep that would be me :) and yea abyss asked me for some help in making the video by answering some questions etc so was looking forward to seeing the video and supporting it
i remember watching you a lot. Great times :D
@OdePery thanks yea been awhile ode hope you have been well
@@CarNage64SR thx mate, I’m doing good :) This year has been great. wish the same for you 🖤
This was very well done. I can't believe I watched this whole thing. It was incredibly well researched but you also paced it beautifully. You did a really good job of finding the drama in each threshold of the record. I'm an ADGQ fan but that's as far as speed running goes for me. But from start to finish I was hooked on this video man. You are incredibly talented and I can't wait to watch more of your stuff!
This was an incredible production. Thank you! Enjoyed it so much.
Fun fact. Me and my friends in the late 90's early 00's shared games and this one was one we played numerous times. One of the discs got scratched so bad it wouldn't pass the canon firing scene, so I just messed around and put in different discs and it actually keeps playing the game substituting the cut scenes for random ones from that disc. That allowed us to keep playing. Maybe it could be used as a shortener of cut scenes lol probably much better ways, but if you wanna try it it can be funny
the abysoft video of the ages, did i tell you that you are my favorite speedrunning youtuber?
I remember waking up early in the morning and checking twitch for ff7 runners which I watched pretty much everyday, I clicked on RJs stream and he literally just hit the last sephiroth and got the record then he hosted dummibear I watched dummies whole run and half way through I was thinking there is no way I witness 2 world records in the one day such a cool moment, really made dummibears run so much more intense for me as I watched it!
Awesome video on my favourite game ever great job!
Wow. I don't even participate in speedruns, but you made it seem more interesting than I had expected. Great video..
Started speed running MGS2 Tanker Chapter watching videos like these. Subbed in the first two minutes, watched it to the last two minutes; thank you for your work and research!
I'm proud of myself for figuring out the Midgar Zolom skip when I was a kid, but also ashamed that I totally missed the chocobo ranch.
Lies
@@Dprkr1 I was actually stuck there a long time (like a whole day playing) but yeah it happened. Later my friend from school let me borrow his guide and reading it I realized my mistake. The funny part is after watching this video I realized that I actually did the better skip.
Same here. Had to restart my game after I got to disk 3 and realised you could no longer get chocobo lure. That was my first play through
@@Joely7-vr7oh That sucks
It's always fascinating to see things the community didn't know but I did. I figured out the no-restart skip of the Midgar Zolom when I was a kid because for some reason I refused to believe that you HAD to have a chocobo, back in 98 or 99. Never occurred to me that wasn't common knowledge until so much later.
Chances are most tricks in big games gave a history like this. For backwards long jump one of those stories actually got exposed, however it's definitely probable the vast majority just never see the light of day until it's rediscovered much later by someone who knows to post it.
They should totally call geting an encounter in the mountain being stuck in the Mines of Moria
It is so cool to see guy figure it out and introduce ways to finish the game faster. I'm not a speed runner but Im beginning to love watching speed runs.
This was an amazing overview and explanation of tons of skips :) Thanks Abyss, you have a great channel ^^
I very much appreciate and understand how much time you put into this video. A mini passion project, no less. I rarely have the time to sit down and really enjoy and appreciate these wonderful and interesting long form uploads , but I always try. A like and subscribe for this work alone. Respect, and thank you for your time spent. ❤
I don't know if this is a skip or if my disc was scratched and bugged the game that way, but I basically skipped all of disc 2 midgar once. After Cloud rejoined the party at disc 2 my party consisting of Vincent, Tifa and Cloud went to Lucrecias cave and after a cutscene I got to the change disc screen. I changed disc to disc 3 and the barrier around the northern crater was gone
Still cant believe i clocked this game when i was 10 in 2000. Even got a golden chocobo. I could never do that now, ahhh the memories 😊
Your dedication to mapping out all aspects of this and putting into a consumeable format is nothing short of impressive.
These speed runners have a talent for playing a specific game.
You have a talent for making very well made and informative videos.
I like how, even to this day, almost everyone pronounces "Cait Sith" as "Kate Sith", while the real pronunciation is supposed to be "Kat-Shee" (the word comes from the Scottish Gaelic word for a kind of fairy that looks like a cat).
I wonder if the devs thought that most English-speakers would know how to pronounce the name correctly back when the game came out. The only reason I learned the right pronunciation was thanks to the guide I used (the black one, as many of us probably remember fondly; the white one sucked and had spoilers).
Edit: Credit to @CrimsonR6 for pointing out that SE made a statement last year saying the "official" pronunciation was actually "kate sith" now. I don't think it changes the point of my OP though since "ket-shee/kat-shee" was the originally-intended pronunciation in both the Japanese text and Gaelic.
Even Rebirth made this mistake
Not really a mistake if the entire dev staff never corrected it.@@emmeownelan2076
It's likely a Translation error
The original was written in japans phonetic alphabet for foreign words and is written as "Ket shee", so more or less correct
The translator of this game likely interpreted it funny and wrote it in a way that a native speaker would intuitively read as "Kate Sith"
@@CaptainSunFlare While that would make some sense, evidently it's not true.
According to Wikipedia, the original way the character's name was written in Japanese is _ケット・シー,_ which would be pronounced "Ketto Shī."
edit: It seems like I misunderstood your comment, and that you acknowledged that the name was written with correct pronunciation in Japanese, so I don't understand your hypothesis. Are you saying the translators didn't bother trying to translate the name phonetically at all? That seems unlikely to me.
Clearly, since the spelling is correct in English, the translators had to figure out that ケット・シー = "Cait Sith" (as a mythological figure). They then seem to have ignored the Japanese and Gaelic/English pronunciations altogether while leaving the spelling as is for some reason.
It's likely then that later down the production pipeline, someone saw the name written in the Roman alphabet and either didn't bother to check its origin, change the spelling to better reflect the original pronunciation, or figured "meh, nobody's gonna care anyway." A combination is also possible, of course.
It's Kate Sith
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Good video, my guy!!!
I always wanted Death unites us to make a video like this. But I 100% love to see this video!
You know I normally venomously hate gags like the one at 52:50, but that one actually made me laugh for once. It really is all in the setup.
This was really well done and engaging the whole way through!
I'm buckled in and ready to ride, now take me on this next-level modern odyssey!
This is like internet history, so cool. I dont know how you and summoning salt do your research, but the end product is really cool.
For this one I had to use the wayback to get videos of some of the early runs, but a lot of the strat developments were on the SDA forum and Brutal actually preserved the entirety of the gamefaq thread on FF7 before they nuked the forums. A lot of it is talking to people that set records and research the game though
Great doc on this. Thanks fro the video!
Salt and Abyss in one day is a good day for speedrunning history fans
If only Bismuth had a recent video about, say, Goldeneye
Final Fantasy VII, Ninja Gaiden II and GoldenEye 007. It doesn't get better than that.
So happy to see this. Was waiting on Summoning Salt to do it but happy the YT algorithm gods shined a light on my feed and took me to your work!
Really impressive work dude!
Very nice job putting all of this together.
3:20
You can use this to duplicate Shiva, and Ifrit during the respective scenes you get those materia.
With the Ifrit duplication comes an extra JENOVA fight as well, for each duplication.
awesome vid man good job!
Excellent video, really enjoyed this journey.
Cheers.
Great video, I remember watching KartSeven, Luzbel and XeroKynos play this game tons back in the day. The amount of skips that have been found in this game that all save over 10 minutes is nuts. Good coverage, your explainations were easy to understand although using the same few songs over the course of an hour and a half got a tad stale
I was only really caught up with FF7 strats around ajneb’s 2 year record era. Multiple times throughout this video I’d go “NO WAY” or “Jesus!” about the new timesaves found since then. Thanks for this video, I can’t describe how excited I was to see it recommended to me! Great job, wonderful narration and editing.
Amazing storytelling! So impressed with the data collection and analysis that goes into these speed runs. In your time-record graph, Do you also have a line showing “best theroetical time” which would be a run with no misses/perfect execution?
This shit is so fucking wild. This is the first detailed video I’ve watched on speed running. I cannot imagine the stress these people must feel chasing these records!
Another iconic Abyssoft video. Thanks mate
Loved watching a more casual gameplay from someone who’s never played DMM, thank you!
Great Video! Super informative!
Just found the channel - awesome video. Really well made you earned a new sub :)!
Great video bro, took me back to my childhood
Here's an update on everyone featured:
Farrington hasn’t performed a run since his segmented run
Pingval still streams speedruns and uploads them to CZcams, focusing more on the Touhou series currently
Puwexil still streams rpg speedruns to this day
Carnage still runs FF7 weekly and is still a top contender in the game
Kartseven has moved on from speedrunning and occasionally streams puzzle and rhythm games
Ajneb is currently streaming runs of alttp, with the occasional FF7 run
Luzbel still streams runs, primarily FF7, 8, and 9
Davesterio is currently taking a break from streaming
Calebhart is still seeking the world record and is a top contender
RJ the Destroyer is still streaming FF7 runs and is in contention for the record
Dummibear streams other rpg’s and F1, and is still a top player in FF7
Zheal still holds the record and streams spedruns of various rpg’s
shame calebhart is a woman hating right wing whacko
Awesome vid! Really enjoyable
Excellent video. I went from using this as a vid to sleep to twice and eventually came back to watch the whole vid in one sitting, well dine
I've been waiting for you or Salt to cover ff7. So glad to see it
New Salt and Abyssoft on the same day? It’s gonna be a great weekend!
I'm playing this game again and I realized depending what character you pick the scenes are different I didn't know that but you most pick the character for a certain scene in order to see a different scene I'm blown away
Exhilarating getting-in-and-out-of-car action!
52:52 You're forgetting the Wutai Pagoda battles, Battles Square, Dragon battle with Sephiroth in the flashback, the mini-boss battle with Snow in Great Glacier, and also the battles where a player gets ejected and flagged as 'escaped' (Midgar Zolom, Scissors and Gighee)
Thank you for the breakdown ❤
56:20 pretty sure the gate between Sectors 6 and 7 is never used in the game.
By the time you're done with the dress quest, you can't go back to it. You're down Corneo's hatch and on your way to the sewers, which lead to the graveyard, which leads back to Sector 7 and the plate collapsing. So there's no Sector 7 to go back to no more.
The only way you access Sector 6 during the natural course of the game is through Sector 5.
It's almost like the load trigger was put there specifically to be used by speedrunners.
Technically speaking, that door is used, it's just used for a cutscene (Tifa arriving via carriage).
@@SyndicateOperative True, but that's just an animation. If we were to count that, then you could also count the FMV when the party swings through the door as the plate is collapsing.. Although that's not in-game, but hey.
Still, the game never expects you to step on the loading trigger at any point because the point at which you go to Sector 6 is determined by the story. That's why the guards are there after all. They probably just didn't bother removing the loading trigger.
Even if the guards weren't there, I don't even think there's any point where you can go through the door without breaking sequence or logic in some way.
Cross the loading zone upon first arriving to Sector 7, and you magically find yourself with Aerith.
Cross it when you first arrive in Wall Market and Cloud would technically be able to alert Avalanche as to Tifa's perceived "kidnapping", which sort of defeats the whole necessity of crossdressing (but Remake sort of retconns this with Tifa telling Cloud her plan on the back of the carriage, so who knows?)
My money is on the devs simply implementing the trigger during early design and forgetting about it. Hence the guards. Speedrunning will always rely on happy coincidences.
Fantastic job, I really enjoyed it !!!!!!
Love your and summoning salts speedrun content!!!
great video, good job
From what i know in the first release of the game the translation from Japanese in earlier versions she was called Aeris, it was then translated to Aerith in later versions, so OG FFVII players she'll always be Aeris but if you played it a bit later then she'll be Aerith and can cause quite a lot of arguing back and forth between the playerbase on her "true" name.
In the EU versions i dont think she was ever updated as in both versions i owned, the original and also the "platinum" version she was named Aeris in both versions. So for me she'll always be Aeris
Same here. Didn't know about the version differences, I always thought it was a region differens (EU player).
Aeris is a poor mistranslation of aerith. Which is why the mistake. This wasn't intentional at all.
I'm also team Aeris, Aerith is a poor translation. The th sound doesn't even exist in Japanese. Arguing that it is spelled Aerith and pronounced Aeris is just stupid. It is spelled and pronounced Aeris. Period. Fight me. 💪
@@claudioestevez1028Yes "th" doesn't exist in Japanese which is why "su" is used for foreign words/names containing that sound. エアリス is exactly how you would write "Aerith".
I mean it's not even a debate at this point, it's Aerith, it has always been Aerith. Even the ps1 original defaults her name to Aerith if you glitch past her normal recruitment
10:09 When I got to Cosmo Canyon in my first playthrough of FFVII (which was earlier this year), I was confused because the buggy never malfunctioned for me, but walkthrough guides (which I used because I'm stupid) said that it was supposed to happen near Cosmo Canyon. So I did a speedrun glitch just playing normally!
did you actually get past cosmo canyon on the buggy? the malfunction won't happen if you get out of the buggy early and walk up to it, but that still won't skip it as you need the buggy to progress further (if you complete the cosmo canyon quest in this way the buggy won't malfunction at all, but you still have to complete the quest before you progress with this method
i always used to do this as it made it easy to go back to Fort condor periodically! but fair play if you managed to actually skip the whole area, incredible luck 😅
@@AndroJonny95 I don't remember what happened before the buggy should've malfunctioned, but I guess it was the right circumstances for it to still work! I also didn't skip Cosmo Canyon since I just went to every location I found.
Great great work my man!
I know it's a good day when I see @Abyssoft has a new video out
Great video!
Final Fantasy 7 is one of the best games in this franchise and I love you made the history progresssion.
Well over 20 years and still intriguing
This was something I had never thought about. I knew speed running existed but not the community behind it, and definitely not such thorough research and background made into a documentary about the subject. Really well done for this! 👌🏽
This stuff is so fascinating. Competitive gaming on another level
Another solid video dude. Great stuff!
Aeris will always be her name for me.🤘
One of the best youtube videos i've seen in a long time
Summoning Salt and Abyssoft uploading the same day?!?!? I can’t handle this… speedrun wr progression overload failsafes activated. ❤
I love your videos! ❤
Magic Breathe death troll.... didn't know... didn't see it coming. I almost cried for him~ again i don't know most of these skips! love the game. thanks for the video!
Great video! Glad to see that i was featured on here. Shame that the skip i found is now obsolete, but glad there's no 50/50 shot now lol.
omg hi :P
@@MayRed174 hahaha hi there. Long time no talk!
@@jessegordon9726 ikr! I was away on vacation and juuust heard about this video :D was also surprised to see our comments in there! Hope life has been treating you well ^^
@MayRed174 life has had its ups and downs, but I'm hanging in there. Hope you enjoyed your vacation!
i swear speedrunners would develop cold fusion if it meant saving a few seconds of a run, its amazing
Feels good to be featuring in the video under Abyssoft's comment for the 6h33m reccy😂
Watching Caleb's adventure has been such a trip.
Dude ur awesome i been telling summoning salt to do this n he never listened. Great video you did it just as well, cheers!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!
I'm happy for this speed runner, I'm glad he holds the record