Great game as always! Just one thing I have seen in all games involving Skaven: The Grey Seer has toughness of 4, not 3. Also, while being atop the Screaming bell, he can refuse challenges by hidding there (remember that Skavens can choose who refuses the challenge). This let's the challenger attack as per usual (from another game against Skaven).
Always a pleasure to see a new upload! I picked up Warhammer 6th edition again (the king of editions!) a few years back after a long break and this channel is such an inspiration for both painting and playing Warhammer. My life is quite intense and there is not much space left for the hobby, but when I see another 6th edition battle report I bring out the paints and paint a few strokes while listening to the game taking place. Keep it up!
Another stellar report. Thanks very much. I hadn't considered that the 'FU Chariots' rule would smash the Doomwheel, certainly makes them less of an auto-include. They are very strong in 8e!
loving your vids, mate! Actually got me to go down in the basement to unpack my Hordes of Chaos that have layed dormant for 10+ years. Just unpacked and arrayed them. Old school Chaos Warriors have not aged too well but the Aspiring Champion of Khorne on his pile of skulls still holds up lol
@@FootofPork Yeah for sure, really looking forward to The Old World. I've collected the old Plaguebearers, Deamonettes and Horros for Kill Team already, so I've already got a head start :D
It's such a cool moment of nostalgia unpacking and arranging some old minis that haven't seen the light of day for a long time. Glad to have been a part of it!
GG. War machines can’t be in difficult terrain (woods and such). It’s in the annual 2002 (war machines). One advise: trolls should be in 4 but 2 as you don’t have a rank with 3 in V6. One more guy for the fight !
Thank you for another awesome video! I was a bit disappointed to have the Hamsterwheel of Doom destroyed before it got to do anything, because I really wanted to see what it could do (not that well-versed in Skaven am I), but otherwise this was intense! Keep up the good work ^^
There is literally nothing more fun to watch in batreps than Skaven. Especially when the Skaven player mercilessly abides by thematically correct horrific treatment of Skavenslaves 😂
Strange game, but enjoyable. The skaven player need more games, some of his decisions didn't make many sense...the magic missile is quite better at 9+ (with 3D6 has good probability, and remember that any 1s when you roll for number of hits is a hit on you), the stormvermins were in a terrible position since the deployment and then played in a "banzai mode", and kill the fanatics not make any sense when you are in a defensive position...they will probably help you! Stos, about your list...if i were you, i would consider to take a 2nd dispel scroll. With only 3 dispel dice you can be absolutely smashed by heavy magic army lists. Looking foward new battle report!!
Think the night goblins may have been permitted to pursue the slaves when they fled due to panic as they were already engaged in combat, but I’m not 100% certain
Nice! I have to say, I'm always a little disappointed when the opponent isn't Matty B., purely because it means I don't get to hear, "OHHHH NOOOOOO MATE...MATTTTTY BEEEEEEEE".
Slaves fleeing through fanatics: per the Annual clarifications on fleeing the controlling player does have input on the fleeing direction within the boundaries of the fleeing rules. Being that one of the main rules is that units should flee away from what caused them to panic (the night goblins in this case actually as THEY released the fanatics) whilst staying as far from enemy units as possible, they could have fled through the gap between the fanatics an the woods. At no point were they 'forced' to run through the fanatics (like they would be if bound by impassable terrain on one side and a line of fanatics behind). This has occurred a few times on the channel and rarely was that line of retreat the only one. In this case it would have allowed the Skaven player to not block his line of advance with some fleeing slaves.
At the same time, the fleeing rules are a mess and it affected nowt. Also even 23 years later it's still the thing that slows my games the most. Almost just prefer the 7th ed version where you could flee through your own units and cause a panic check dependant on unit strength. It was simpler at least.
Agreed, the fleeing/panic rules are my least favourite thing about 6th Ed. The fact that one of your own units fleeing or being destroyed by shooting behind you can force a unit to flee towards the enemy makes my teeth grind.
I'd love to see games from you including few factions you were missing from the reports so far. Wood Elves, Tomb Kings, Wood Elves and maybe even Ogres :D
I rewatched the battle and I did like the different Skaven list. Though I would play the rat ogers as a support flanking unit. With no rank bonus and no armor can have hard time against strong units and/or characters. The Ratling gun when get a 5 or 6 I would hesitant to re-roll if I am in an indecisive moment of the game.
Oh buddy i enjoyed this battle so much. Since you posted it a few days ago i kept it there just to watch it just after finishing my last master degree exam. So today it's been the great day and i when the exam was done i run home to watch you! Yess believe it or not 😜 And know what? Taking some beers while enjoying your video and i was even yelling "Gorfang Irontusk" name when you rolling for how many attacks and while hitting and so on 😂 yeah i'm such i geek! Felt so good when he smashed such many of those filthy rats... Eww hate em 😅 anyway well done, great job and keep going! This channel gonna grow for sure since you do an amazing work! Are there any Empire generals you can bring to your channel? I don't have Empire but would be nice to see them there (I'm high elves, lizardmen and Vampire Counts but still played Empire sometimes and it's cool to see us -humans- fighting for freedom against all those who wanna finish us) Cheers from Barcelona, Spain!
Hey mate cant wait to watch this. Im not hung up on anything competitive so it doesnt overly matter to me but the black orc warboss cant have the ironskin shield and battleaxe of the last waaagh. Unfortunately that comes in at 125 pts. Easy mistake if you use dwarf lords alot but a black orc warboss can only have 100pts of magic items whereas a dwarf lord can have 125.
I may have an interesting idea You could do 2v2 battle some day Personally I have already fought that kind of battle with my friends as Lizardmen with Dwarfes against Orcs and Goblins allied with Vampire Count and it was awesome I really recommend to one day fight that kind of battle
I assume these battles are not competitive, but: strategically, is there any value in bringing 6 trolls instead of 3? Seems to me like a pretty suboptimal choice. You're paying a lot of points when they are not going to anyway outnumber any infantry unit. Only 3 attack anyway. So, at the end, you're paying 150 extra points for some additional wounds, and putting a lot of eggs into a basket that might fail a stupidity test at the worst possible moment :D. You could get another full night goblin unit with fanatics for that, right?
Excellent entertainment. Once again, lovely looking painted armies. Skaven in the badlands? watch out Karak Hirn, theres ratfolk in your area .. never a good sign. I believe it was the Nuln philosopher Bertholdt Schreibermann III who theorised, following a most stimulating cheese dream, vermin are all around us. Of course his work was completely poopooed and ridiculed by the governing body of Nuln's academia for his outrageous ideas, he died destitute not long after. Less than a decade later Nuln was sacked by Skaven, but no one likes to talk about that, within a year the existence of ratmen was once again nothing more than a filthy urban myth.
You cannot hit four trolls with the Warp Lightning cannon like that.. It is like a normal cannon so with a width of three.. That is it. Hardly any need to make that thing even better..
Skaven is a bit where the .. A little too much power creep started in 6th Ed.. Maybe High Elves. But the Ratling gun, the Warp Lightning cannon and the Skaven magic is at times a little too strong.. No need to roll to hit for thye Ratling gun is silly.. No need for line of sight for the Warp Ligntning cannon is just as silly.. The magic with Warp lightning is a little too good too.. Meanwhile, orcs & Goblins, second book, is like playing another edition.. Black orc Boss taking up two Hero slots.. just TSUPID. Ponits is what should be the thing. if he is good he costs more points. Which he does.. No one else get anything stupid like that.. If they started the edition with such restrictions, lifting them half way through is retarded.. GW has alkways been like that, very inconsistent but it pisses me off to this day.. Orcs & Goblins, always released early witha fun and good book, THEN, then basically shit on.. it is sad and shows how unbalanced GW is and was. And people take tournaments seriously? Ina serious unbalanced game..? Well.. Says it all.
Quick-hurry, Beard-thing make-uploaded new video!
I love the the releases just in time for the weekend! Great to see some skaven again. Well done
Great game as always! Just one thing I have seen in all games involving Skaven: The Grey Seer has toughness of 4, not 3. Also, while being atop the Screaming bell, he can refuse challenges by hidding there (remember that Skavens can choose who refuses the challenge). This let's the challenger attack as per usual (from another game against Skaven).
Always a pleasure to see a new upload! I picked up Warhammer 6th edition again (the king of editions!) a few years back after a long break and this channel is such an inspiration for both painting and playing Warhammer. My life is quite intense and there is not much space left for the hobby, but when I see another 6th edition battle report I bring out the paints and paint a few strokes while listening to the game taking place. Keep it up!
Yes!!! I've binge watched all the fantasy battle reports twice over and I'm ready for more!
dammm felt in love with orc list!!
This report made me feel so nostalgic, what fun! Two of my favorite armies, I love random elements and charts that do whacky hi-jinks!
Ah, Da Boyz! Lovelly!
Cool list, love to see the trolls and so many! Wonderful models and fun. :)
Another stellar report. Thanks very much.
I hadn't considered that the 'FU Chariots' rule would smash the Doomwheel, certainly makes them less of an auto-include. They are very strong in 8e!
loving your vids, mate! Actually got me to go down in the basement to unpack my Hordes of Chaos that have layed dormant for 10+ years. Just unpacked and arrayed them. Old school Chaos Warriors have not aged too well but the Aspiring Champion of Khorne on his pile of skulls still holds up lol
Any plans to give them some love for the release of The Old World?
@@FootofPork Yeah for sure, really looking forward to The Old World. I've collected the old Plaguebearers, Deamonettes and Horros for Kill Team already, so I've already got a head start :D
@@mw5753 Good stuff! ^^
It's such a cool moment of nostalgia unpacking and arranging some old minis that haven't seen the light of day for a long time. Glad to have been a part of it!
3:43 Ironskin shield and battle Axe of last waaagh tallies 125 points. I see it has alreasdy been mentioned in the comments.
Yeah, that was a big woops on my part. Thankfully the Ironskin shield never came into play!
Great batrep. Two horde armies are always a sight to behold.
Cheers from Germany
Another great game (fyi 36mins, the warp lightning that rolled a 1 for number of hits, that hits the caster instead!)
Yep, realised when I got home that I’d overlooked that rule all game. From memory there wasn’t enough 1s to kill off either of the casters though.
@@Chromatic_Orbison it's easily forgotten in the heat of the game, I've missed a few on several occasions.
Love your channel man!
GG.
War machines can’t be in difficult terrain (woods and such). It’s in the annual 2002 (war machines).
One advise: trolls should be in 4 but 2 as you don’t have a rank with 3 in V6. One more guy for the fight !
Thank you for another awesome video! I was a bit disappointed to have the Hamsterwheel of Doom destroyed before it got to do anything, because I really wanted to see what it could do (not that well-versed in Skaven am I), but otherwise this was intense! Keep up the good work ^^
Brilliant game. Loved it!
There is literally nothing more fun to watch in batreps than Skaven. Especially when the Skaven player mercilessly abides by thematically correct horrific treatment of Skavenslaves 😂
So cool to see the new terrain on the table. (Definitely not my real name. Profile pic is genuine though)
Hahaha thanks my lord Skeletor!
Another great battle report Stos, keep up the good work
Strange game, but enjoyable. The skaven player need more games, some of his decisions didn't make many sense...the magic missile is quite better at 9+ (with 3D6 has good probability, and remember that any 1s when you roll for number of hits is a hit on you), the stormvermins were in a terrible position since the deployment and then played in a "banzai mode", and kill the fanatics not make any sense when you are in a defensive position...they will probably help you!
Stos, about your list...if i were you, i would consider to take a 2nd dispel scroll. With only 3 dispel dice you can be absolutely smashed by heavy magic army lists.
Looking foward new battle report!!
38:10 I would have argued that the doomdiver destroyed does not cause a panic in the wolves as the crew are still alive.
Think the night goblins may have been permitted to pursue the slaves when they fled due to panic as they were already engaged in combat, but I’m not 100% certain
They have to have beaten them in the previous round of combat.
Just what I needed after a hard week- cheers, Stos!
Glad to help! 😁
Nice! I have to say, I'm always a little disappointed when the opponent isn't Matty B., purely because it means I don't get to hear, "OHHHH NOOOOOO MATE...MATTTTTY BEEEEEEEE".
Really enjoy seeing interesting models like the doomwheel. Cant wait to see it in battle.
Best CZcams gaming channel! Do the Storm Vermin have hatred?
They had the Banner of Burning Hatred. It’s like regular hatred except spicier.
Slaves fleeing through fanatics: per the Annual clarifications on fleeing the controlling player does have input on the fleeing direction within the boundaries of the fleeing rules. Being that one of the main rules is that units should flee away from what caused them to panic (the night goblins in this case actually as THEY released the fanatics) whilst staying as far from enemy units as possible, they could have fled through the gap between the fanatics an the woods. At no point were they 'forced' to run through the fanatics (like they would be if bound by impassable terrain on one side and a line of fanatics behind). This has occurred a few times on the channel and rarely was that line of retreat the only one.
In this case it would have allowed the Skaven player to not block his line of advance with some fleeing slaves.
At the same time, the fleeing rules are a mess and it affected nowt. Also even 23 years later it's still the thing that slows my games the most. Almost just prefer the 7th ed version where you could flee through your own units and cause a panic check dependant on unit strength. It was simpler at least.
Agreed, the fleeing/panic rules are my least favourite thing about 6th Ed. The fact that one of your own units fleeing or being destroyed by shooting behind you can force a unit to flee towards the enemy makes my teeth grind.
So great!
Two armies perfect for players that enjoy working through feelings of frustration 😅
I'd love to see games from you including few factions you were missing from the reports so far. Wood Elves, Tomb Kings, Wood Elves and maybe even Ogres :D
You and me both bud!
I rewatched the battle and I did like the different Skaven list. Though I would play the rat ogers as a support flanking unit. With no rank bonus and no armor can have hard time against strong units and/or characters. The Ratling gun when get a 5 or 6 I would hesitant to re-roll if I am in an indecisive moment of the game.
I Love these old rules. Everything is just so chaotic and wounderfully unpredictable.
Love it! You need some empire action!
Screaming bell is a great target for rock lobber...
great to see 2 horde armies goin at it..
Always a recipe for a good time
1:24:00, about troll regenerating, isn't it that you need to regenerate not only the 9 wounds but all the wounds inflicted to them?
Nah mate, you only roll for the wounds you lost. So if you have one troll left on one wound, you only ever roll one regen dice to see if he survives.
Oh buddy i enjoyed this battle so much. Since you posted it a few days ago i kept it there just to watch it just after finishing my last master degree exam. So today it's been the great day and i when the exam was done i run home to watch you! Yess believe it or not 😜 And know what? Taking some beers while enjoying your video and i was even yelling "Gorfang Irontusk" name when you rolling for how many attacks and while hitting and so on 😂 yeah i'm such i geek! Felt so good when he smashed such many of those filthy rats... Eww hate em 😅 anyway well done, great job and keep going! This channel gonna grow for sure since you do an amazing work!
Are there any Empire generals you can bring to your channel? I don't have Empire but would be nice to see them there (I'm high elves, lizardmen and Vampire Counts but still played Empire sometimes and it's cool to see us -humans- fighting for freedom against all those who wanna finish us)
Cheers from Barcelona, Spain!
Mate, thanks so much for the kind words! Stoked you're enjoying the vids. Once I'm done with the Vampires my next project will be the Empire!
very nice battle
Hey mate cant wait to watch this. Im not hung up on anything competitive so it doesnt overly matter to me but the black orc warboss cant have the ironskin shield and battleaxe of the last waaagh. Unfortunately that comes in at 125 pts. Easy mistake if you use dwarf lords alot but a black orc warboss can only have 100pts of magic items whereas a dwarf lord can have 125.
Oh snap! You are totally right. Bugger!
@@rogueelementgaming yeah don't sweat it too much. Im in it for the cool factor :) keep up the great work
How can you take ironskin shield (50pt) plus axe of whaagh (75pt) on the same character?
You can't, I messed up...
I may have an interesting idea
You could do 2v2 battle some day
Personally I have already fought that kind of battle with my friends as Lizardmen with Dwarfes against Orcs and Goblins allied with Vampire Count and it was awesome
I really recommend to one day fight that kind of battle
I assume these battles are not competitive, but: strategically, is there any value in bringing 6 trolls instead of 3? Seems to me like a pretty suboptimal choice. You're paying a lot of points when they are not going to anyway outnumber any infantry unit. Only 3 attack anyway. So, at the end, you're paying 150 extra points for some additional wounds, and putting a lot of eggs into a basket that might fail a stupidity test at the worst possible moment :D. You could get another full night goblin unit with fanatics for that, right?
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Excellent entertainment. Once again, lovely looking painted armies.
Skaven in the badlands? watch out Karak Hirn, theres ratfolk in your area .. never a good sign. I believe it was the Nuln philosopher Bertholdt Schreibermann III who theorised, following a most stimulating cheese dream, vermin are all around us. Of course his work was completely poopooed and ridiculed by the governing body of Nuln's academia for his outrageous ideas, he died destitute not long after. Less than a decade later Nuln was sacked by Skaven, but no one likes to talk about that, within a year the existence of ratmen was once again nothing more than a filthy urban myth.
Looking forward to this. Blood rats are my nemesis!
They can indeed be pretty nasty
do trolls get regeneration vs the warpcannon? does it not count as fire?
Don't think so bud.
Shouldnt hid cannon have taken damage from the Bell. Of does it not have toughness 7+
Only toughness 6 on Skaven machines
The Screaming Bell and Warp-Lightning Cannon have T6.
Fuckn love your berserk shirt m8
GRRRIIIFIIITH!!! 🤬
RIP the fanatic's goolies
Hell yeah, two of my fav armies.
green green things lucky lucky.... new time
You cannot hit four trolls with the Warp Lightning cannon like that.. It is like a normal cannon so with a width of three.. That is it. Hardly any need to make that thing even better..
Skaven is a bit where the .. A little too much power creep started in 6th Ed.. Maybe High Elves.
But the Ratling gun, the Warp Lightning cannon and the Skaven magic is at times a little too strong.. No need to roll to hit for thye Ratling gun is silly.. No need for line of sight for the Warp Ligntning cannon is just as silly.. The magic with Warp lightning is a little too good too..
Meanwhile, orcs & Goblins, second book, is like playing another edition.. Black orc Boss taking up two Hero slots.. just TSUPID. Ponits is what should be the thing. if he is good he costs more points. Which he does.. No one else get anything stupid like that..
If they started the edition with such restrictions, lifting them half way through is retarded.. GW has alkways been like that, very inconsistent but it pisses me off to this day..
Orcs & Goblins, always released early witha fun and good book, THEN, then basically shit on.. it is sad and shows how unbalanced GW is and was. And people take tournaments seriously? Ina serious unbalanced game..? Well.. Says it all.