I heard some people mock the Kilo for its unusually large hull for a diesel submarine. One thing I want to point out, this is a huge bonus. Hull size barely affects noise, but it allows to install a lot of noise suppression equipment and internal rubber barriers, making it much quieter and being the true innovation compared to previous soviet electric boats. Moreover, this allows to install more batteries, extending the operational range, a spherical sonar, more weapons and more space for the crew.
These Kilo Class Submarines are wickedly capable in their own territorial waters, not as much when they try to conduct global operations. Love that you included the Kilo operators info, nice addition.
Thanks to new improvements by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Kilo-class Rostov-on-Don now has an amazing limitless dive feature. Unfortunately, it can't come back up from the dive.
Bragging about damaging a ship being repaired when you're losing soldiers and this is the wests number of 10 ukronazis for every 1 Russian is like being down 77-0 and talking shit about getting a field goal and cutting the lead to 74 it's ridiculous
@@YankeeVatnik1917l actually agree with you and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better than me lol and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world.
@@user-gu8qi4me8x thank you bro you're like the first person in Internet history to say something nice. Im a veteran went to the army's war college and the truth is starting to leak out but this war is probably the most one sided war in at least modern warfare once they get past the ingrained Russo phobia it will be studied. They way they adapt and morph into whatevers needed and how their defense industry is victory who gives a shit about profit they just instantly provide them new variants maybe China but there's nothing like it The way western militaries have just become testing grounds for social experiments not a combat force our poor sensitive ass kids fighting fucking warriors they can't handle conflict. I drives me crazy like when we went to Iraq and got punched in the mouth broke some of our guys we thought we were invincible and then our soldiers are dying and we had to learn quick I don't think soldiers that can no longer be pressured will adapt as fast or ever and so many poor kids will die to placate radicals
@@YankeeVatnik1917 no worries at all the least I can actually do for you and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world. 👌👌👌🫡🫡🫡👍👍👍💖💖💖💯💯💯.
The" BLACK HOLE" quote come out of beginning of the 1990's NATO naval exercises between NATO the former Warsaw Packet navy members - Poland and UK navy on Baltic sea when UN navy couldn't locate ORP Orzeł/Eagle and the small UK aircraft carrier was tagged/targeted by ORP Orzeł.....
For ambushing US surface assets at choke points like the Bashi Strait, the AIP Yuans would be far superior than the Improved Kilo due to submerged endurance.
Eh the sterling AIP doesnt actually give a lot more life than even the improved kilo without AIP. The new trend is ditching AIP for upgrade to new generation batteries for subs that would give even greater autonomy underwater than older style AIP.
These subs need to be upgraded with LiFeP batteries and may be a low power silent miniature nuclear power plant. Otherwise, they are just shallow water coastal submarines... sitting ducks.
The Canadian Victoria class submarines are a lot like the Improved Kilo although the Canadians removed the ability for them to launch cruise missiles in favour of the Mark 48 Heavy torpedo. Just as dangerous for the same reasons ...
So I’m watching this in the last days of 2022 and it has been said Ukraine may receive sea king helicopters from the British. If they sent Ukraine one with anti submarine submarine equipment still aboard. How could we expect them to do. Now below is a scenario I could see taking place but don’t know how it would go down because I don’t have the knowledge of both submarine and helicopter I imagine a scenario where Russia launches a missile attack and a kilo class sub takes part but Nato surveillance aircraft were able to get a fix in the missile launch point. And it just so happens Ukraine has this freshly delivered hypothetical anti submarine sea king helicopters ready to scramble to that location from Odessa to try to attack the sub. Would they probably have luck finding the kilo class sub or would it be to quiet to precisely locate. Moral of the story would it get away because of being quiet or would the Ukrainians have enough information to work with that the sub would be at serious risk from this helicopter and it attacking.
I don't know how that scenario will play out, but I think 'quietness' won't be the deciding factor in whether the ASW helo will find the sub. If the missile launch location is fixed in a timely manner, and the helo arrives shortly, it is likely to use a dipping sonar to search for the sub. Dipping sonars are generally active sonars, and likely able to find the Kilo in the shallow waters of the Black Sea. The Kilo uses a teardrop hull, without any stealth design, and by your scenario it won't have time to get away far enough, so it is likely to be detected. Quietness is unlikely to be important, because active sonars do not rely on external noise source. But other factors, like whether Russia can shoot the helo down before it arrives, or the depth of that specific part of the sea (allowing thermoclines to form), will matter.
@@EurasiaNaval interesting, that actually answers a lot of my question. I’m not a master In anti submarine warfare so I didn’t know how well the helicopter would find the submarine ect. Another question hope you don’t mind I’ve got so many questions about the Russian navy in regards to the ongoing war. Do you think Russia will be able to continue to produce the gorshgov frigates or do they rely on to much foreign components no longer accessible for constructing anything beyond a frigate. I hope that question makes sense
Ok, so you are telling me that in the first place, that helicopter can reach the launch point far in the sea from Odessa. Now, even if it could, a lot of time would pass, and the Kilo would have already left the area. What is more, there are russian surface warships in that area, carrying the Shtil anti-air missile, which they could use to take out the helicopter as soon as it exits ukrainian coastal airspace. Now, those missiles have been fired at live aerial targets, such as Bayraktars, and I doubt a helicopter has a chance against them. So there are 3 points that completely put this option aside, and all steam from the fact that the range of the Kalibr allows Kilos to launch them from almost anywhere in the Black Sea
@@EurasiaNaval I agree with your points, but it is important to note that the sub will likely be out of the helo's "active" range, and that the threat from russian surface warships prevents these types of sorties.
I heard some people mock the Kilo for its unusually large hull for a diesel submarine. One thing I want to point out, this is a huge bonus. Hull size barely affects noise, but it allows to install a lot of noise suppression equipment and internal rubber barriers, making it much quieter and being the true innovation compared to previous soviet electric boats. Moreover, this allows to install more batteries, extending the operational range, a spherical sonar, more weapons and more space for the crew.
It is a very quiet boat.
@@abrahamdozer6273l actually agree with you.
These Kilo Class Submarines are wickedly capable in their own territorial waters, not as much when they try to conduct global operations. Love that you included the Kilo operators info, nice addition.
Oh it has a black hole alright
Very effective in incepting missiles
Turns out they're also capable of intercepting cruise missles.
Thing is, it survived. And will return to service.
@@user-dg9hq8uz3g I heard it's going to be used as the new replacement for the Titanic sub.. 😱
@@chigeryelam4061 you're not funny dude. You're not that guy.
@@user-dg9hq8uz3gl actually agree with you.
They blow up good.
Real good!
Same as all of equipment. But that dub survived, it will be repaired.
When did we walk in there and bring Putin to Justice?
Justice for what?
@@locoman888 Crimes Against Humanity, Genocide
He's subject to arrest by the International Court anywhere in the Free World.
Abh the classic kilo. One of my favorites.
You have fine tastes 👌
One of my favorites, if I could own a submarine it would be the Kilo
Hahaha!
@@EurasiaNaval it’s a classy looking sub lmao I can’t help it
HA HA HA - for what, making a reef??!? THEY'RE JUNK.
Russia Kilo class now has 2 extra big holes for deep sea fishing.
Thanks to new improvements by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Kilo-class Rostov-on-Don now has an amazing limitless dive feature. Unfortunately, it can't come back up from the dive.
Oh it can tho. It's repairable.
Kilo's are great at 5-7 knots. Anything greater (speed) and they are a "DEATH TRAP" with new detection technology.
Says who besides you?
We Have 5 Kilo Submarines in Iran Navy but they Upgraded and Renamed into "Nahang"
Are they as effective as advertised?
@@locoman888
Yes Maybe
New and Improved Improved Kilo: Now with cruise missile interception capabilities!
Буль - буль :-)))
Great submarine
Ukraine recently improved one.
By blowing a physical hole on this literal black hole
Bragging about damaging a ship being repaired when you're losing soldiers and this is the wests number of 10 ukronazis for every 1 Russian is like being down 77-0 and talking shit about getting a field goal and cutting the lead to 74 it's ridiculous
@@YankeeVatnik1917l actually agree with you and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better than me lol and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world.
@@user-gu8qi4me8x thank you bro you're like the first person in Internet history to say something nice. Im a veteran went to the army's war college and the truth is starting to leak out but this war is probably the most one sided war in at least modern warfare once they get past the ingrained Russo phobia it will be studied. They way they adapt and morph into whatevers needed and how their defense industry is victory who gives a shit about profit they just instantly provide them new variants maybe China but there's nothing like it The way western militaries have just become testing grounds for social experiments not a combat force our poor sensitive ass kids fighting fucking warriors they can't handle conflict. I drives me crazy like when we went to Iraq and got punched in the mouth broke some of our guys we thought we were invincible and then our soldiers are dying and we had to learn quick I don't think soldiers that can no longer be pressured will adapt as fast or ever and so many poor kids will die to placate radicals
@@YankeeVatnik1917 no worries at all the least I can actually do for you and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world. 👌👌👌🫡🫡🫡👍👍👍💖💖💖💯💯💯.
An even bladed propeller creates harmonics that are detectable. All Russian submarines carry manpads.
May I know whats the difference of improved Kilo Class 1 and Kilo class 2
Improved Kilo carries Kalibr cruise missiles, for one.
It turns out that despite how quiet the KILO is . Not having it submerged and out of port makes them quite easy to kill. According to Ukraine atleast.
Nice footage going through the Bosphorus. 👍
I know that Nato have found a way to track this submarine type. Being silent doesn't help Russia anymore.
rather a black hole for ukraines missiles lol
The" BLACK HOLE" quote come out of beginning of the 1990's NATO naval exercises between NATO the former Warsaw Packet navy members - Poland and UK navy on Baltic sea when UN navy couldn't locate ORP Orzeł/Eagle and the small UK aircraft carrier was tagged/targeted by ORP Orzeł.....
I’m guessing at the end the boats are shooting out water to hide the noise of the kilos from the Americans and British.
Do you have a video on the yasen and yasem-m subs
For ambushing US surface assets at choke points like the Bashi Strait, the AIP Yuans would be far superior than the Improved Kilo due to submerged endurance.
Eh the sterling AIP doesnt actually give a lot more life than even the improved kilo without AIP. The new trend is ditching AIP for upgrade to new generation batteries for subs that would give even greater autonomy underwater than older style AIP.
تحيا الڤايد صالح
These subs need to be upgraded with LiFeP batteries and may be a low power silent miniature nuclear power plant. Otherwise, they are just shallow water coastal submarines... sitting ducks.
Oof
Vietnam has six of these submarines, that says a lot about having China as your neighbor.
Russia should have about 40 of these submarines to defend against NATO aggression /expansion.
realy as a demon ? most dangerously submarine ...
The Canadian Victoria class submarines are a lot like the Improved Kilo although the Canadians removed the ability for them to launch cruise missiles in favour of the Mark 48 Heavy torpedo. Just as dangerous for the same reasons ...
So I’m watching this in the last days of 2022 and it has been said Ukraine may receive sea king helicopters from the British.
If they sent Ukraine one with anti submarine submarine equipment still aboard. How could we expect them to do. Now below is a scenario I could see taking place but don’t know how it would go down because I don’t have the knowledge of both submarine and helicopter
I imagine a scenario where Russia launches a missile attack and a kilo class sub takes part but Nato surveillance aircraft were able to get a fix in the missile launch point. And it just so happens Ukraine has this freshly delivered hypothetical anti submarine sea king helicopters ready to scramble to that location from Odessa to try to attack the sub. Would they probably have luck finding the kilo class sub or would it be to quiet to precisely locate. Moral of the story would it get away because of being quiet or would the Ukrainians have enough information to work with that the sub would be at serious risk from this helicopter and it attacking.
I don't know how that scenario will play out, but I think 'quietness' won't be the deciding factor in whether the ASW helo will find the sub. If the missile launch location is fixed in a timely manner, and the helo arrives shortly, it is likely to use a dipping sonar to search for the sub. Dipping sonars are generally active sonars, and likely able to find the Kilo in the shallow waters of the Black Sea. The Kilo uses a teardrop hull, without any stealth design, and by your scenario it won't have time to get away far enough, so it is likely to be detected. Quietness is unlikely to be important, because active sonars do not rely on external noise source. But other factors, like whether Russia can shoot the helo down before it arrives, or the depth of that specific part of the sea (allowing thermoclines to form), will matter.
@@EurasiaNaval interesting, that actually answers a lot of my question. I’m not a master In anti submarine warfare so I didn’t know how well the helicopter would find the submarine ect.
Another question hope you don’t mind I’ve got so many questions about the Russian navy in regards to the ongoing war. Do you think Russia will be able to continue to produce the gorshgov frigates or do they rely on to much foreign components no longer accessible for constructing anything beyond a frigate.
I hope that question makes sense
Ok, so you are telling me that in the first place, that helicopter can reach the launch point far in the sea from Odessa. Now, even if it could, a lot of time would pass, and the Kilo would have already left the area. What is more, there are russian surface warships in that area, carrying the Shtil anti-air missile, which they could use to take out the helicopter as soon as it exits ukrainian coastal airspace. Now, those missiles have been fired at live aerial targets, such as Bayraktars, and I doubt a helicopter has a chance against them. So there are 3 points that completely put this option aside, and all steam from the fact that the range of the Kalibr allows Kilos to launch them from almost anywhere in the Black Sea
@@EurasiaNaval I agree with your points, but it is important to note that the sub will likely be out of the helo's "active" range, and that the threat from russian surface warships prevents these types of sorties.
What actually happened is that one was destroyed in Sevastopol harbour.
Comment section was crawling with salty Ukrops/ Ukies. . .
I can’t for the comments and wasn’t disappointed. Can you smell that? The sweet sweet smell of ruzzki cope
More like some incel chinks simping for their adoptive soviet father
Average westerner here.
R.I.P. Mr. Kilo...you have been turned into scrap metal
Victory to the Russian Federation, and it's "Special Military Operation."
⭐🇷🇺🇷🇺Z🇷🇺🇷🇺⭐
"Special Sinking Operation."
Lol ,bugman cope