Pi is approximately 355/113 (pi day short)

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  • čas přidán 4. 03. 2023
  • This short animation shows the beginning of the creation of the hypocycloid where the ratio between the radii of the two circles is Pi. Because Pi is irrational, the hypocycloid will never close, so we end after 113 revolutions. As a byproduct, it appears that the curve almost closes up, and there are total of 355 intersection points between the circle and the hypocycloid (spikes). This means this visual shows that Pi is roughly 355/113, which is one of the best simple approximations of the circle constant.
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Komentáře • 276

  • @Info_rare
    @Info_rare Před rokem +2212

    Physicists: Wow! Pi=355/113
    Mathematicians: bro, zoom in!

  • @Real_Azure
    @Real_Azure Před rokem +514

    fun fact, 3.141/1 is also a very close estimate of pi!!!1

    • @Anti_Racist696
      @Anti_Racist696 Před rokem +70

      3.14159265358979/1 is also a good estimate

    • @manioqqqq
      @manioqqqq Před rokem +52

      π/1 is a gud estemate!1!111!!1!1!1!!1!1!one!1!1!11!uno!1!!1!1!1!111!!!!1!1!

    • @bryansiew9707
      @bryansiew9707 Před rokem +9

      3.141592653589793236/1 is more accurate

    • @墸
      @墸 Před rokem

      @@Anti_Racist696 and 3.141592653589793238462643350288419716939937510/1

    • @rivercape982
      @rivercape982 Před rokem +9

      pi/1 is veeryy gud

  • @dvx-ze1qz
    @dvx-ze1qz Před rokem +522

    Another approximation is 22/7, and clearly you can see how the spikes are really close already at 22th

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +61

      Definitely!

    • @hemavarma5436
      @hemavarma5436 Před rokem +52

      22th? Or 22nd

    • @dvx-ze1qz
      @dvx-ze1qz Před rokem +16

      @@hemavarma5436 oops my bad

    • @geckoanims
      @geckoanims Před rokem +15

      Now the thing is, my birthday is July 22nd, which in Europe is shown as 22.07.

    • @_wetmath_
      @_wetmath_ Před rokem +6

      another approximation is 21/7 which is way easier to remember

  • @ikwenmusic
    @ikwenmusic Před rokem +604

    This is why i love math

  • @_Cynther_
    @_Cynther_ Před 3 měsíci +3

    For this pi day (2024) there was recently a contest at my highschool where students could enter to try to recite as many digits of pi as they could. I entered and set the record of 1,234 digits of pi, nearly quadrupling the previous school record 🤭🤭. The next day the local news showed up and interviewed me it was so cool!

  • @mamatadash2016
    @mamatadash2016 Před rokem +76

    Since pi is a continued fraction, we can cut the fractions at different points and it will give us different approximations of pi

    • @pauselab5569
      @pauselab5569 Před rokem +1

      Everything is a continued fraction. Cuting it off at different point gives the best fractional approximation with that amount of digits

    • @mamatadash2016
      @mamatadash2016 Před rokem +3

      @@pauselab5569 yes but some go infinitely long and some ar finite.

  • @elegy8187
    @elegy8187 Před rokem +16

    Pretty cool how the 22nd spike almost lines up on the 7th rotation to demonstrate the 22/7 estimate of pi

  • @yatminghui8955
    @yatminghui8955 Před rokem +50

    Alright, BUT NOW GIVE ME BACK MY DONUT!

    • @olek0
      @olek0 Před rokem +1

      no, i will keep performing approximate pi equations on it

  • @Bhuvan_MS
    @Bhuvan_MS Před rokem +17

    Since a true line/curve does not have any thickness(it is 1D), the circle will be filled with infinite lines taking infinite revolutions.
    The fraction p/q cannot be defined taking infinities on both numerator and denominator. Hence, it also explains that pi is irrational.

  • @xninja2369
    @xninja2369 Před rokem +7

    52163/16604 be like: hold my 🍻

  • @marble17
    @marble17 Před rokem +1

    Makes pupil cutely

  • @mykeljmoney
    @mykeljmoney Před rokem +11

    Very satisfying, thank you 😊

  • @anjalidwivedi2057
    @anjalidwivedi2057 Před rokem +23

    that was wonderful

  • @TheMemesofDestruction
    @TheMemesofDestruction Před rokem +7

    Groovy! ^.^

  • @math_lab1729
    @math_lab1729 Před rokem +2

    Good video bro

  • @brandontechnerd
    @brandontechnerd Před rokem +2

    If you were wondering how precise 355/113 is:
    355/113 = 3.141592920354
    Pi = 3.141592653589

  • @BasitCeviriler
    @BasitCeviriler Před rokem +2

    That’s an amazing eye drawing

  • @Random258.
    @Random258. Před 11 měsíci +1

    No one:
    My brain: YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND LIKE A RECORD BABY RIGHT ROUND ROUND ROUND

  • @Th3R0.
    @Th3R0. Před rokem +4

    "Never let them know your next move."
    *Draws a perfect eye using science*

  • @estudematematica
    @estudematematica Před rokem +1

    This is truly gorgeous.
    Isso é realmente lindo.

  • @izzabelladogalini
    @izzabelladogalini Před rokem +18

    355/113 takes you accurately to 6 decimals. ...which is as close as most people will ever need, if you want more accuracy you can get to 9 decimals but the fraction gets rather large..
    13307663182/423595077
    If you want more than 9 decimals...do it yourself I've had enough 🤣

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      :)

    • @jhgvvetyjj6589
      @jhgvvetyjj6589 Před rokem

      8717442233⁄2774848045

    • @WasickiG
      @WasickiG Před rokem

      There’s a typo in your numerator. It should be 1330763182, which gives you 13 decimals actually.
      For this accuracy I need an even larger fraction:
      6155147411456/1959244271985
      I got this by using a correction factor I have found for the Wallis Product.
      Submit the following to WolframAlpha:
      Product((4k^2)/(4k^2 - 1),{k,1,n})*(2 + 4/(8n + 3 + ContinuedFractionK[4k^2 - 1,8n +4,{k,1,n}]))
      That’s what we get when n=6.

  • @tanishkaaa444
    @tanishkaaa444 Před rokem +2

    looks like eye pupil
    math is interconnected with everything damn

  • @stalinexpress
    @stalinexpress Před rokem +1

    Thx for my new eyes I ordered btw what took you soo long to make this

  • @petterlarsson7257
    @petterlarsson7257 Před rokem +3

    ZOOM IN ZOMM IN ZOOM IN

  • @TopRob1
    @TopRob1 Před rokem

    Thanks for explaining

  • @isaacbeise
    @isaacbeise Před rokem +1

    Latrice Royale vs Trinity The Tuck

  • @tamirerez2547
    @tamirerez2547 Před rokem +59

    Great animation, but how does it prove that π is 355/113??

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +93

      The ratio of the two circles is given by pi. If the ratio between the two circles is a rational p/q then the cycle closes up after q revolutions and p cusps. This one almost closed up after 113 revolutions and 355 cusps so pi is nearly 355/113. You can also see at the beginning that it almost closes after 7 revolutions and 22 cusps so pi is roughly 22/7 too!

    • @tamirerez2547
      @tamirerez2547 Před rokem +27

      @@MathVisualProofs
      Wow, beautiful.
      After 25 years of teaching math, these visual proofs are still new to me. Amazing.

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +17

      @@tamirerez2547 Glad you are enjoying them! I learn new ones every day too :)

    • @ricidefix
      @ricidefix Před rokem

      That the ratio of the two circles is Pi is assumed by construction, it could have been any other number. This is a visual way to see how well a fraction can approximate any number. If by construction you had chosen that bigger radius was square root of two times the other, instead of Pi, we could have seen its rational approximation counting spikes and revolutions. Am I right?
      Anyway, I can't stop watching and listening :)

    • @KatherynneF
      @KatherynneF Před rokem

      @@MathVisualProofs thank you for this explanation, I’ve seen 355/113 repeated countless times but nobody could demonstrate why it approximates pi or how.

  • @victordatsiuk
    @victordatsiuk Před rokem +125

    very interesting👍

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +9

      Fun to “see” the approximation.

    • @xyovirx
      @xyovirx Před rokem

      ​@@MathVisualProofs HHSHA I GET UR JOKE

    • @Xlebywek_Memep
      @Xlebywek_Memep Před 7 měsíci

      @@xyovirxI don’t get it

    • @xyovirx
      @xyovirx Před 7 měsíci

      @@Xlebywek_Memep same i forgot how i got it

  • @anondude6361
    @anondude6361 Před rokem +26

    The song is perfect lol

    • @carultch
      @carultch Před rokem

      You spin me right round, baby, right round, in a manner depriving me of an inertial reference frame baby, right round.

  • @dariarusiowicz8989
    @dariarusiowicz8989 Před rokem +1

    Hi! I have a question - what is the ratio between radiuses of those two circles? How was it determined? And is this the only proportion that would give this result or could this be replicated with any two different circles?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      The ratio between the two circles is pi. So that is why it rolls almost together at 355/113. If I had made the ratio 355/113 it would close up perfectly.

  • @henp99
    @henp99 Před rokem

    The initial pitcher makes me think of a roll of Teflon tape

  • @boRegah
    @boRegah Před rokem

    That's why I love math. There's always room for debate

  • @noakosic2661
    @noakosic2661 Před rokem

    i'm just vibing to the song

  • @7axol
    @7axol Před rokem +2

    Today's lesson: how to create a black hole

  • @user-kn6sw2jl2p
    @user-kn6sw2jl2p Před 11 měsíci +1

    WoW

  • @stvp68
    @stvp68 Před rokem +4

    Spirograph love!!!

  • @guessundheit6494
    @guessundheit6494 Před rokem

    113355 is the smallest rational approximation of pi that has more digits on the output (7) than on the input (6).

  • @user-yk1lz7gb2t
    @user-yk1lz7gb2t Před rokem +2

    really beautiful 😍

  • @winogronko6279
    @winogronko6279 Před rokem +1

    Interesting , but i still think the chemistry is more interesting , but tho i like math.

  • @NabiruBogdan
    @NabiruBogdan Před rokem

    Lovely

  • @KingNinja123
    @KingNinja123 Před rokem +1

    Me not understanding this but listening to the music

  • @andychen7016
    @andychen7016 Před rokem +2

    Very cool

  • @mofvu
    @mofvu Před rokem

    I don't understand what this mean but this shit is funny af idk why

  • @richardgratton7557
    @richardgratton7557 Před rokem +1

    Very, very cool! ❤

  • @sunnicivang1093
    @sunnicivang1093 Před rokem

    Engineers: It's close enough.

  • @Utkarsh....
    @Utkarsh.... Před rokem

    Damn cool

  • @Peter33033
    @Peter33033 Před rokem

    my brain hurts

  • @imranfahami5694
    @imranfahami5694 Před rokem +1

    Waaaa

  • @Tomzin20
    @Tomzin20 Před rokem

    mathematicians trying to come up with the hardest ways to find shit they alread knew:

  • @mbahreini9565
    @mbahreini9565 Před rokem +1

    The question is: does the result get better if the small circle spin round the outer perimeter of the big circle?🤔

  • @AlexOfficial419
    @AlexOfficial419 Před rokem +1

    U spin me right round

  • @christianmosquera9044
    @christianmosquera9044 Před rokem +1

    excellent video

  • @cuuh.
    @cuuh. Před rokem

    THE SONGGGGG

  • @1nfius948
    @1nfius948 Před rokem +1

    My favourite Pi value

  • @ameliekruger1561
    @ameliekruger1561 Před rokem +1

    You know IT IS over when you See a Video about math

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      but why?

    • @ameliekruger1561
      @ameliekruger1561 Před rokem

      @@MathVisualProofs
      Because I hate Mathe, I'am so Bad in it.

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      @@ameliekruger1561 but you could possibly be good. Just give it another try 😀

    • @ameliekruger1561
      @ameliekruger1561 Před rokem +1

      @@MathVisualProofs
      Oh believe me I am trying, but I Just dont Like it. Iam more interested in Reading, drawing Stuff Like that math isnt my thing

  • @christianmosquera9044
    @christianmosquera9044 Před rokem +1

    Wonderful

  • @OnTheFIyAviation
    @OnTheFIyAviation Před rokem

    Nice
    This is why I love math… because of complex numbers like pi!

  • @davidnoll9581
    @davidnoll9581 Před rokem

    Can you make it keep going and see if there’s any visual indication of the inaccuracy?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      There is. If you continue it starts a new cycle that is not overlapping.

  • @irfanjames
    @irfanjames Před rokem

    Can you do
    Ramanujan Summation?
    1+2+3+4+...=-1/12

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      It’s unfortunately not true and so a geometric visualization isn’t possible.

  • @darajaichakradhar1342

    π = 62832/20000 .(this was stated by aryabhata). Which is very close to value of π

  • @nagulasrilatha
    @nagulasrilatha Před rokem

    Rly cool nex can u try 22/7

  • @uncarrot
    @uncarrot Před rokem

    What's the formula to get more digits

  • @shamakrai3310
    @shamakrai3310 Před rokem +1

    It's correct til 3.141592

  • @taaveteriktamm4220
    @taaveteriktamm4220 Před rokem

    So this how human eyes are made, good to know

  • @hevad
    @hevad Před rokem +2

    I guess the distracting factor here is that this is running inside a circle. Makes you think that the mechanism by which it is approximating pi has something to do with the circle, and is not.
    Makes for a nice animation, and is easier to see in a non-moving reference frame (it could have been done to roll over a straight line marked every pi). That's alright, I just wish it was made clearer at the beginning that the circles were proportional to each other by PI, because I kept thinking you can easily decide a diameter of the inner circle that matches the mark perfectly.

  • @godzillaridergamer7595
    @godzillaridergamer7595 Před rokem +1

    3 blue 1 brown’s logo

  • @kingeddiam2543
    @kingeddiam2543 Před rokem

    Hi, what actually is pi? Is it the ratio of the diameter to the circumference? Or smth else

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      Take any circle: divide circumference by diameter. That’s pi

  • @linglucas2961
    @linglucas2961 Před rokem

    France be like:

  • @vedantpatel5985
    @vedantpatel5985 Před rokem

    Did you know that pi is the best approximation of pi. It's so accurate, that it is equal to itself 😱😱😱

  • @jadinkllz12
    @jadinkllz12 Před rokem +1

    That’s closer than 22/7 is

  • @caseymike3938
    @caseymike3938 Před rokem +1

    We love hypociloid

  • @xaviers2ndaccount354
    @xaviers2ndaccount354 Před rokem +1

    spirograph

  • @polishdoomergirl
    @polishdoomergirl Před rokem

    This equation is slightly more than pi, but I'm impressed that it's very close

  • @natrium0_0
    @natrium0_0 Před rokem +3

    Happy pi day

  • @Maebbie
    @Maebbie Před rokem +2

    mathspin

  • @doesntmatter2732
    @doesntmatter2732 Před rokem

    Is the diameter of the smaller circle 1/3 of the bigger circle?

  • @abrahamo2895
    @abrahamo2895 Před rokem +1

    I compared it to 22/7 with (355/22) / (113/7) and 355/113 is 99.96% of 22/7

  • @yigo310
    @yigo310 Před 14 dny

    another close number is the cubic root of 31.

  • @hanhngo6495
    @hanhngo6495 Před 3 měsíci

    3.14

  • @qdnr
    @qdnr Před rokem +1

    ПОНЧИК

  • @Catfan1290
    @Catfan1290 Před 8 měsíci +1

    104348/33215, hallo

  • @jasewagner
    @jasewagner Před rokem +1

    How does that prove that 355/113 ≈ π

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      The ratio of the two circles is Pi. It is known that if the ratio were 355/113 then the hypocycloid would close up after 113 rotations and 355 spikes. This one almost closes up at the same time (though not quite ). If you watch early you will see that after 7 rotations and 22 spikes it almost closes up too. That gives the 22/7 approx

  • @no_name67
    @no_name67 Před rokem +2

    what is radius of new circle?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      The ratio of the two shown circles is Pi (so big circle radius/rolling circle radius is Pi). Then the newly created "inner circle" has a radius obtained by taking big circle radius and subtracting the diameter of the rolling circle (and the diameter of the rolling circle is two times big circle radius/Pi).

    • @yiutungwong315
      @yiutungwong315 Před rokem

      ​@@MathVisualProofs
      π = 2 in Riemann Paradox And Sphere Geometry Mathematical Systems Incorporated

  • @kodi5182
    @kodi5182 Před rokem

    Video about pi: no
    Video about making circle inside circle = *yes*

  • @nino---
    @nino--- Před rokem

    How does this work?

  • @GlassyLass56
    @GlassyLass56 Před rokem +1

    Spirograph!

  • @harshgandhi100
    @harshgandhi100 Před rokem

    Upto 6th decimal

  • @asr2009
    @asr2009 Před rokem

    not good music.
    anyway, awesome video

  • @azfarahsan
    @azfarahsan Před rokem +1

    ah yes
    4blue0brown

  • @sci-simply
    @sci-simply Před rokem +1

    Only 6 digit correct

  • @xanderlastname3281
    @xanderlastname3281 Před rokem +1

    No zoom in or anything?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      If you want a Hypocycloid zoom, check this out: czcams.com/video/DC8JlortDqE/video.html :)

    • @xanderlastname3281
      @xanderlastname3281 Před rokem +1

      @@MathVisualProofs I kinda meant a zoom in to see how close 355/113 is to pi
      Cause being this zoomed out it just makes me think they're exactly the same, cause there's no noticeable difference between the two points

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      @@xanderlastname3281 oh! I see. Yes it is hard to see. Even with zoom because the thickness of the dot :)

  • @LexiLex421
    @LexiLex421 Před rokem

    3.14156

  • @novygaming5713
    @novygaming5713 Před rokem

    acos(0) = pi

  • @jonjon9875
    @jonjon9875 Před 4 měsíci

    π≈3.14

  • @arkan630
    @arkan630 Před rokem

    Rotary engines in a nutshell

  • @desireemariec1108
    @desireemariec1108 Před rokem +1

    Ha! The Hadron Collider and The Birth of Calculus 💯

  • @szanimations6803
    @szanimations6803 Před 7 měsíci

    Vsause

  • @megabattle3695
    @megabattle3695 Před rokem

    Eye

  • @scoapproductions
    @scoapproductions Před rokem

    355/133 is actually only 0.000008% greater than pi. If you used both numbers to calculate the circumference of the Earth the difference would be a little over 3 meters.

  • @iNocalss
    @iNocalss Před rokem

    π ≈ 355/113