How to Budget for a Short Film

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  • čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
  • Watch the rest of the series: • Making a Short Film
    The short film: • "Two Wrongs" - Short Film
    Host and Creator - Simon Cade
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    TWO WRONGS:
    Directed by - Simon Cade
    Produced by - Carl Mason (www.clfilms.co.uk)
    Written by - Johann Farhan
    Mark - Oliver Heald ( / oliheald )
    Connor - Deon Lee-Williams ( / deon_rswt )
    Pete - Sam Glen ( / samglen )
    Dealer - Lewis Brown
    Customer 1 - Naithan Ariane ( / naithanariane )
    Customer 2 - Ryan Clayton
    Connor's Mate 1 - Luke Orechoff
    Connor's Mate 2 - Lukas Becker
    Connor's Mate 3 - Paul Keighron
    Pete's Mate - Ross Doran
    Director of Photography - JP Caldeano ( / cinematicj )
    1st Assistant Director - Wayne Bentley ( www.callboxdiary.com/callbox/w...)
    Casting Director - Rebecca Jenner
    Sound Recordist - Kristian Edwards (www.manchestersoundman.co.uk)
    Boom Operator - Danny Feng
    Costume Designer - Emily Cooper
    Production Assistant - Anton Arenko
    Behind the Scenes - David Williamson
    Editor - Simon Cade
    Asst. Dialogue Editor - Samuel Jacintho
  • Krátké a kreslené filmy

Komentáře • 401

  • @harvardmurrayinc
    @harvardmurrayinc Před 7 lety +55

    the analogy with the water at the end was brilliant. I love the simplicity.

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 7 lety +9

      thanks for all the support! that was a fun one :)

  • @simon_patterson
    @simon_patterson Před 8 lety +23

    Total respect for you Simon Cade. You pay people what you can with your own hard earned and you look after your people with insurance and police security. You show real leadership. Most people in the world cut corners when it comes to other's safety and well-being but you spent your own money for them. You're a champ, your parents must be extremely proud of the young man you are. All the best for your exams in the coming months.

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +6

      +spattysnail that's very kind of you to say :)

  • @carlocatabijan
    @carlocatabijan Před 8 lety +14

    For newbie film-makers like us, we look up to you so much even if you haven't necessarily made it to the top. Your ethic is unbelievable. Thanks for the inspiration.

  • @dearxsera
    @dearxsera Před 8 lety +21

    Wow I never knew how expensive it can be to make a short film... It's mind blowing. So much respect for you Simon, I really hope that your passion and dedication pays off!

    • @simon_patterson
      @simon_patterson Před 8 lety +1

      +bonjour.sera At 2,000 quid per minute of final footage, it ain't cheap, is it! That's equivalent to 120,000 quid per hour...

    • @Raditram
      @Raditram Před 8 lety +1

      Yup, some tv commercials even cost millions to produce

    • @lassegebauer214
      @lassegebauer214 Před 8 lety

      actually, for what you get in the end (a middle class 4 (!!!) min short film it is FAR to much!!! at this Level you really don't have to pay so many people so much - if you can't motivate your friends or other starting out filmmakers to make a short film with you over one weekend (cause for 4 min you actually don't need more than two days of shooting!!) as an famous CZcams filmmaker (!) than you either have very fucked up friends or ... there is no alternative!!! compaire his Film to all the work Ryan connolly has done - not concerning the quality, that would not be fair due to connolly being a Fully aducated director... but he never spend more than 10000$ on on of his Films and of them you get the impression they must have cost a lot more... he is able to achieve that by working with Family, friends and enthusiastic other professionals, by being very quick (shooting 2-4 min per day) and doing a lot himself...

    • @Raditram
      @Raditram Před 8 lety

      Sherlock Holmes seriously dude, english, learn it!

    • @luishindman
      @luishindman Před 8 lety

      He is setting an awful example. Don't follow it.

  • @Antiganos
    @Antiganos Před 8 lety +8

    TheDSLRguide has essentialy become a more personalized and more informative version of FilmRiot. I must say, this kid gives us so much, I'd encourage all of us who learn from him to donate if possible. I know I can't now, but I and us all should keep him in mind when we have loose change hanging around.

  • @Vcyfy
    @Vcyfy Před 8 lety +25

    Right. 'The Battery' (2012) had a budget of $6000. Its a full length feature and was produced, directed and written by one person, Jeremy Gardner. ok.

  • @jayfolk
    @jayfolk Před 8 lety +4

    Just had to sit through a udemy ad on how to film beautiful video with a disorder alongside thousands of students instead of looking through hundreds of CZcams videos. Wtf dude, you're videos are King.

  • @omgurheadsgone
    @omgurheadsgone Před 8 lety +51

    This channel is going to be huge soon, you'll be making double/triple minimum wage eventually :D (and even more down the road!) Can't wait to see your short film. Amazing channel by the way, has helped me so much!

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +10

      +omgurheadsgone the short film is already out! czcams.com/users/cadevisuals

    • @omgurheadsgone
      @omgurheadsgone Před 8 lety +3

      +DSLRguide oh whoops I already saw it then haha, great short.

  • @benaaronmusic
    @benaaronmusic Před 8 lety +1

    You are going in the right direction.
    You've got such a good head on your shoulders, Simon.
    Keep on pushing forward and learning along the way.
    And as always, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @ayalafilmco4249
    @ayalafilmco4249 Před 6 lety +1

    The fact that you use the same camera (Canon Rebel t3i) that I am using for my own small indie company relieves a lot of doubt I had about making quality content while not having a more updated camera or the latest model. Loving your channel, cheers mate!

  • @MidnightOrange
    @MidnightOrange Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks for all the videos Simon, it's been great to see you grow as a person and as a filmmaker over the past few years. Keep up the good work!

  • @robbyboyo
    @robbyboyo Před 8 lety +13

    Bravo. I really liked the water in bowls analogy.

  • @spider1g5
    @spider1g5 Před 8 lety +1

    This video is a must-watch, it really speaks volumes; thank you Simon. Keep it up!

  • @CIAOBELLOTV
    @CIAOBELLOTV Před 8 lety

    You're absolutely inspirational. Your passion comes easily true your words. Well done mate!!! I've memorised your name... Can't wait to see it in the credits of many big productions very soon. Keep going, the sky is your limit...

  • @EllieHeard
    @EllieHeard Před 7 lety +3

    Hey I just want to say, you're making awesome videos and I just love your humbleness. Don't lose that! Thanks for sharing your experiences and expertise with all of us!!

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 7 lety +1

      cheers Ellie, i'll do my best haha

  • @nafun123
    @nafun123 Před 8 lety +1

    Never stop making videos. You're story telling is next level stuff.

  • @thedailymilk2240
    @thedailymilk2240 Před 8 lety +1

    This was the part I was looking forward to your insight on. I liked your illustration with the water. Very creative. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your future videos.

  • @florianganser
    @florianganser Před 8 lety +1

    Awesome water chart idea! I like the short film more and more as you explain the process of making it. Keep up the good work!

  • @rahjnich89
    @rahjnich89 Před 8 lety +1

    Thank you. This is probably my favorite video from you, especially after just finishing a short film.

  • @KamenRamenStudios
    @KamenRamenStudios Před 8 lety +1

    As a fellow filmmaker on the other side of the world, I always appreciated your videos on this matter.
    That water analogy of my non-essential spending just brings up those tiny moments of haphazard spending on my part.
    Your stuff has always been informative but shows the fact it is always a work in progress: when you rise to the occasion or crash and burn.
    Thanks for your work my good man.

  • @franeknoga4392
    @franeknoga4392 Před 7 lety

    I loved the use of the pie chart and the clear explanation. I really love all the advice you're giving- truly inspiring and now I feel like having an apple ;)

  • @juanuslalala
    @juanuslalala Před 8 lety +1

    i used to hate your theme song, but now i love it. Keep the good work!

  • @SunirmalM
    @SunirmalM Před 8 lety +3

    respect bro that you put so much..... as a learner and college going student in india I know how hard it is to shoot at locations and arranging for cast crews for shoot
    respect bro
    keep up the good work

  • @findingvictoria
    @findingvictoria Před 8 lety +2

    so interesting to hear! i love this series! great showing with the water, you have so many great ideas!

  • @brushrunner
    @brushrunner Před 8 lety +3

    the water money bit was genious! Loved this ep!

  • @notabraham5224
    @notabraham5224 Před 7 lety

    Such a wonderful video! You have really sparked my interest in film again!!!

  • @CINEMATICJ
    @CINEMATICJ Před 8 lety +1

    Last time I loved the Rubik Cube analogy, and this time the water explanation was top. Great video as always. It was a pleasure to work with you. ;)

  • @mishtaromaniello8295
    @mishtaromaniello8295 Před 8 lety +2

    Awesome. Going to try to budget a short film I'm writing from around $2k-$5k. This definitely helps. Thanks, Simon. Seeya next week.

  • @EZIO367
    @EZIO367 Před 8 lety

    Simon's videos are so good that I unknowingly give a standing ovation to him as the video ends :D!

  • @storeput45
    @storeput45 Před 8 lety +1

    at the ending, i thought: where the hell is the apple Simon? you dissapoint me. but then you just squeezed it in by the end, which just made my day! thank you! 😂😂

  • @AdamSheldonFilm
    @AdamSheldonFilm Před 8 lety +1

    I've only just notice that Mark is Oliver Heald who was in Spike Island! I know he's been struggling a bit since being in that film but that's still a really awesome name to get on your film. Cool to see him playing a much more serious character as well.
    I live so close to where you shot this film as well, really wish I would have known about it before hand, who have loved to offer to shoot it for you or at least offer you some lenses and lights. Good work!

  • @SonicSinema
    @SonicSinema Před 8 lety +1

    That closing line puts it in perspective

  • @biggbamo
    @biggbamo Před 8 lety

    Always enjoy your guide...please dont stop

  • @kieranproskills
    @kieranproskills Před 8 lety +1

    This series is very informative Simon. Keep up the sterling work

  • @OlivertheJoyboy
    @OlivertheJoyboy Před 8 lety

    Hey Simon! That was a really great video. Self funding is what I do too. I used to be really bad about spending my money, but now I'm getting better at saving. I'm glad I got better at saving and sacrificing non essential spending, because it got me a T2i and a short film that's in the works that I'm pretty proud of so far. Your videos really inspire me and help me to stay motivated as a filmmaker :)

  • @FrancescoErrichielloVisuals

    You are doing a revolution! congratulation!

  • @Cineluvideos
    @Cineluvideos Před 8 lety +1

    Great video. Love the part with the filled glasses!

  • @Abdul-Salam-
    @Abdul-Salam- Před 8 lety +1

    From Saudi Arabia. I just want to say this channel is great !

  • @TheNicoDavis
    @TheNicoDavis Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks Simon! This is very helpful

  • @neversinkoutdoors
    @neversinkoutdoors Před 8 lety +10

    Simon - don't forget that you have over 161k subscribers, many of whom watch your videos as soon as they come out, and many others of whom feel very grateful to you for your valuable advice given over the years. I'm sure you could raise $15k in a day if you pitched it to us through one of your thoughtfully-edited CZcams videos. In fact, I have no doubt that you could raise much more than that in just a few days! Maybe it's worth giving it a try?

    • @wildcard749
      @wildcard749 Před 8 lety +7

      Im sure many people would, but i think he wants to save that card for a special day, theres only so many times you can play it

  • @AnkitRaj-ou3tl
    @AnkitRaj-ou3tl Před 8 lety +1

    The best channel for film making stuffs . . .

  • @Getos
    @Getos Před 8 lety +87

    Thanks! I feel bad that i don't pay for being subscribed to you...

    • @boysclub9440
      @boysclub9440 Před 8 lety +2

      Use paypal to give Simon a tip.

    • @guillemcolet3206
      @guillemcolet3206 Před 8 lety +5

      +Getos You can donate some money if you go to his web page (linked in this video) I think he is awesome and this is an easy way to help him if you're interested :)

    • @doubled9935
      @doubled9935 Před 8 lety +1

      +Getos Please no in Poland we barely have money for filmmaking equipment, so yt red would be bad idea. Better would be that he make Patron Account

    • @harvardmurrayinc
      @harvardmurrayinc Před 7 lety

      Agreed.

    • @factsverse9957
      @factsverse9957 Před 7 lety

      Getos Well I think it would feel worse for you if you don't subscribe to him, like me.

  • @MattSezer
    @MattSezer Před 8 lety +2

    People are the most expensive thing in filmmaking. Some of the stuff I shoot now has the same gear and level of complexity as stuff I did when I was a student, but the budget is literally over 20 times higher because people are getting paid.

  • @BillBooz
    @BillBooz Před 8 lety +1

    Simon, gave you a plug for being one of my inspirations recently. Posted the first installment of what I hope will be a regular "video journal" on my YT channel.

  • @TruSam
    @TruSam Před 8 lety +2

    Your videos are very inspiring. I'm planing to do my own short Documentary about the sport I'm passionate about: Parkour/Freerunning.

  • @oavnetwork7722
    @oavnetwork7722 Před 8 lety +12

    I have watched ur shortfilm but I didn't even see nothing that represents Manchester u could have record that at the back of a restaurant the same set

  • @JohnnyFilmsy-Boi
    @JohnnyFilmsy-Boi Před 8 lety +1

    Lessons learned: I shall stay single, live in a cheap apartment, and be happy with my iPhone 6 for a couple years. I can live with this stuff okay. Great vid Simon :)

  • @Mickey-bo6cv
    @Mickey-bo6cv Před 8 lety +1

    Love the series!

  • @lewisjones1952
    @lewisjones1952 Před 8 lety +93

    WHERE IS THE APPLE??

  • @akeemdanial5112
    @akeemdanial5112 Před 8 lety +1

    Nice WORK Simon

  • @AliNaqiH
    @AliNaqiH Před 8 lety +6

    Wow man, that's a shit ton of money! Good work Simon.

    • @simon_patterson
      @simon_patterson Před 8 lety +3

      +Ali Naqi 8,000GBP is about $10,000 USD. For a 4 minute film, that's $2,500 per minute! Not much belt tightening left either, without starting to really cut corners to the detriment of the final outcome...

  • @user7380
    @user7380 Před 8 lety

    Entertaining and educational, don't see that much around. Thanks Simon !

  • @penguinYT1
    @penguinYT1 Před 8 lety

    Excellent episode!

  • @phook85
    @phook85 Před 8 lety

    Good stuff Simon as always. Good stuff

  • @johntuckerproductions1136

    Can you please do a video on a few short film ideas?
    Would appreciate it, thanks for your time!

  • @KrashrSabba3
    @KrashrSabba3 Před 8 lety +1

    You have my deepest respect.

  • @MrSubajuprety
    @MrSubajuprety Před 8 lety +1

    best episode ever … go on dude

  • @sreemanthreddy6952
    @sreemanthreddy6952 Před 8 lety +1

    you are the best...tanx for all these videos u made for us bro! :)

    • @AliNaqiH
      @AliNaqiH Před 8 lety +1

      +sreemanth reddy oh nice you're from india? hahah me too i love filmmaking

  • @oliverjohn24
    @oliverjohn24 Před 8 lety +1

    Fab as always!

  • @DyfanBarlow
    @DyfanBarlow Před 8 lety +1

    The saving aspect was incredibly satisfying for me, so simply placed yet so effective! Brilliant work Simon, whats your next project?

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +1

      +Dyfan Barlow thanks Dyfan! i've got to focus on exams for the next few months, and i haven't decided what's next. probably another short, but lower budget :)

    • @DyfanBarlow
      @DyfanBarlow Před 8 lety

      Well take it easy on the films, exams are equally important, I cant wait to see whats instore!

  • @dzejkej0
    @dzejkej0 Před 8 lety +1

    Solid investment in your experience and knowledge- in a long term it seems more valuable than just having saved money.

  • @kashan1608
    @kashan1608 Před 8 lety +2

    Its so surprising to see such a huge figure spent on such a short film. But that's just the initial shock. As a filmmaker myself, I have realized the importance and ethics of paying the people involved. And when you come to think about it, it is people who make a film. All the cameras and gears and stuff are just a maker's indulgences.
    What is really surprising is the breakdowns. Most cost heads for an Indian production are similar! I always assumed them to be much higher in Europe. Not the case it seems. The police here would take way less, and that when you go through 'unofficial' channels. And maybe the make-up, costumes etc. But the rest seems pretty similar.
    Hmmm...

  • @dragonskunkstudio7582
    @dragonskunkstudio7582 Před 8 lety +2

    I'm doing an animation project and getting closer to finishing now. Luckily the voice actors volunteer their talent, I assume they do it for free now in hopes of getting The Simpsons voice actor money one day, either from me or from work experience. I hope I can be as successful to pay them something even close to that kind of income because that means I got a hit show.

  • @lexiedewitt5473
    @lexiedewitt5473 Před 8 lety +2

    I love this channel. I think without this channel I will not reach my dream. :)

  • @EstebanNillo15
    @EstebanNillo15 Před 8 lety +1

    You're always very helpful, thanks!

  • @NomadicInThePhilippines
    @NomadicInThePhilippines Před 8 lety +5

    great advice man! Mabey think about moving to the philippines, That kinda money could make alot more films there, cheers

  • @TheFitchproductions
    @TheFitchproductions Před 8 lety

    Great video. So much honestly coming from you.

  • @UtopiaTheatre
    @UtopiaTheatre Před 7 lety

    Thank you very much. That was so helpful.

  • @TonyBabarino
    @TonyBabarino Před 8 lety +1

    I was thinking "Where the F#$#K is the apple? C'mon man..." and I waited to the very end...BOOM! There it was "crunch"! LOL! Great episode Simon! +DSLRguide ! Will you do a video of your post production work too? Thanks man!

  • @cb-lf2wn
    @cb-lf2wn Před 8 lety +1

    i learn so much from this channel c:
    thanks man

  • @Stucrompton1
    @Stucrompton1 Před 8 lety +2

    well done simon!!

  • @EricLefebvrePhotography
    @EricLefebvrePhotography Před 8 lety +1

    This was probably one of your best videos.
    I'm happy to see that your CZcams revenu is getting to the point where it is becoming close to profitable (just looked up your stats on Socialblade).
    Keep up the good work.

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety

      +Eric Lefebvre thanks Eric (social blade stats are very much an over-estimation haha)

    • @EricLefebvrePhotography
      @EricLefebvrePhotography Před 8 lety

      +DSLRguide I guess even the low end of the revenu range on socialblade doesn't factor in the 30% of users who use adblock.

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +1

      they have a pretty wide range which shows that they have no idea haha

  • @aidanmorrison1541
    @aidanmorrison1541 Před 8 lety +1

    Thank you. For everything.

  • @tondann
    @tondann Před 8 lety +4

    Hey Simon! I really enjoy your videos about everything that comes to short films, but I would really like to see some more videos about techniques in shooting, lighting and editing! :) I will stay tuned for the future and the following videos - I don't regret subscribing.

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +5

      +Dannton that's coming soon :)

    • @ArcticxBeaver
      @ArcticxBeaver Před 8 lety

      Thumbs up! I'd also like to see more videos that cover the practical aspects of filmmaking. I can be quite confusing for a beginner

  • @omgurheadsgone
    @omgurheadsgone Před 8 lety +1

    Also Simon, you should really make a Patreon, it is a great way for creators to get more funding for their work on youtube, especially since you put so much time and effort into each video!

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +1

      +omgurheadsgone doesn't feel right at the moment - maybe one day

  • @Cooldude1991c
    @Cooldude1991c Před 8 lety

    DSLRguide love your videos buddy i want to be a producer give some essential tips for beginning

  • @zacharycalante1095
    @zacharycalante1095 Před 8 lety +3

    Specifically a Short film, I've never spent anything, the actors including myself always do it for free, not that they would think that would be payed.

  • @joshuagonzalez9613
    @joshuagonzalez9613 Před 7 lety

    Great job buddy.

  • @mychalsimonz
    @mychalsimonz Před 8 lety

    Another awesome lesson

  • @varunemani
    @varunemani Před 8 lety +1

    Great work Cade. Would love to be part of a crowd thats funding for your production any day.

  • @Jonnyvonwallstrom
    @Jonnyvonwallstrom Před 8 lety +1

    Great video Simon!

  • @davidhrzenjak
    @davidhrzenjak Před 8 lety +1

    wow. this vid was very nice and inspirational

  • @KentoGS
    @KentoGS Před 8 lety +1

    you are definitely special!!!

  • @LesterKamstra
    @LesterKamstra Před 8 lety +1

    Good, solide content! Keep it up!

  • @johevideos
    @johevideos Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks for this great video

  • @thebrothersthre3987
    @thebrothersthre3987 Před 8 lety

    I liked the short man. Script was lacking but I liked the visuals and sounds. Its amazing the hate some people gave you for it. It was a self funded project. You are learning. Anyhow keep up the good work I love the channel.

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +1

      +theBrothersThre3 I am definitely learning haha - thanks for realising that, it means a lot :)

  • @euanchalmers8995
    @euanchalmers8995 Před 8 lety +1

    Rly helpful, can you do a how to broll video

  • @antoinecorre7639
    @antoinecorre7639 Před 8 lety +1

    yours videos are so cool !

  • @johnquinn3998
    @johnquinn3998 Před 6 lety

    What would say a day fee would be for a producer or casting directing?

  • @everydaydre1185
    @everydaydre1185 Před 6 lety

    Can u break down what you paid personnel , please?

  • @filmnewsreport3231
    @filmnewsreport3231 Před 8 lety +1

    4th option: Film Grants
    + Pays costs (mostly)
    - Highly competitive
    - Partial Creative Control (most of the time)

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +1

      +Film News Report also:
      -requires lots of research
      I guess it's worth looking in to, depending on where you live there might be some available :)

  • @yemann8292
    @yemann8292 Před 10 měsíci

    Sir how to cast actors from different locations like another country or township for your web series, indie Feature film or so? I am from Southeast Asia, Burma. In future projects, i would like to cast foreign actors from neighboring countries like Thai, Singapore, japan, Malaysia, Korea or Australia.

  • @antonarenko3242
    @antonarenko3242 Před 8 lety +5

    Your welcome Simon :)

  • @Kriscoart
    @Kriscoart Před 8 lety +51

    Now let's figure out where ISIS gets their money.

  • @JeepneyChannel1
    @JeepneyChannel1 Před 8 lety

    This is sooooooooooo inspiring! thank you so much!!!!

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety

      +Jeepney Channel1 you're welcome :)

  • @NightWLKR1
    @NightWLKR1 Před 7 lety

    how did you get insurance for it? what was the process?

  • @diyfilmstop6398
    @diyfilmstop6398 Před 8 lety +1

    great video and tips keep going

  • @daveheckleberg8009
    @daveheckleberg8009 Před 8 lety +1

    Great Video!

  • @Maheshbabu51
    @Maheshbabu51 Před 8 lety

    I have been trying to record the sound coming from cloths while they are brushing against each other but its not quite at sync ... any advice???

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +2

      +Mahesh Babu try different materials, maybe even make a whole range of sounds - short brushes, fast ones etc. then carefully position them in the timeline so they match up :)

  • @CQMCStudios
    @CQMCStudios Před 8 lety

    What font you use in most of your videos? It looks so simple but perfect! Love you videos so much!

    • @DSLRguide
      @DSLRguide  Před 8 lety +1

      +CQMC Studios it's 'Lato'

    • @CQMCStudios
      @CQMCStudios Před 8 lety

      Thanks for the quick response. Keep up your great work!