My first MSFS Rage Quit - Latin VFR A340 UPDATED - another review attempt | Real Airbus Pilot
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Man I wish devs would follow one simple rule: if your payware addon doesn't even reach the fidelity of the free FBW A320N, don't bother making it.
man, the point thing is they dont care and they dont want to spend much time to do it correctly, as long as there are some guys who buy the plane (and really there are!) so they won.... just like CaptainSim did
MSFS proving to be much more a game than a Sim since the devs doesnt even care if the airplanes are at least flyable,... cause... who cares ? graphics deserves more attention -.-
Game.. consoles... huge xbox community who dont know any better. This aircraft is rated by console players like 4/5 stars.
@@ScorcherAv??? Sims are classed as games, I hate this argument. Anyway what are you talking about? PMDG, Fenix and FBW etc exist for serious simmers so there are many devs who care actually
This is why I can't wait for the Bluebird/Just Flight 757 to come out. Not only is it my all time favorite aircraft, but they've retracted the release date 3 times and now there's no official release date so they don't have to worry about releasing an incomplete aircraft. I've helped them with some things and they're previewed the incomplete aircraft at the FSExpo and it's right on par with the FBW A320, however, they're still not happy with it so they're continuing to work on it.
And the fact you can buy the PMDG 737-600 for pretty much the exact same price of this aircraft is shocking. 😂
LatinVFR is the Captainsim but for Airbus
They're competing in making the worst products.
Latinvfr is way better than CS but Isn’t very good compare to inibuilds, FBW or even Asobo.
@@GeekFreak-vv1vbAsobo A320neo v1 still sucks that’s why they got inibuilds to just make a new one 😂
Factsssss lmaooo
@@airrdI dont think that is a fair statement. LVFR has always been upfront about the expectation of thier products. They always include a large collection of liveries, instead of making you buy numerous packs of 4-5 liveries for 5 bucks each. And also they actively support thier products with improvements at least once a month. On thier forums they are also good a replying to feedback and giving support to thier customers. LVFR is not comparible with Captain Sim.
" what type of shit shows is going on in here" priceless love it 😂😂😂
Came for the rage quit, was not disappointed 😂
“Is it any better now? Hint: no” got me laughing hard LOL
I was sitting on the fence about getting the LVFR A340 since it released because I really want to replicate the South African Airways A340 flight between Perth and Joburg. After seeing this video, I'm no longer sold on LatinVFR at all. Let's hope that, at a minimum, LVFR can fix these issues and make this a better aircraft to fly. If not, fingers crossed that someone else will develop a workable A340 in the future.
I wish Toliss would bring the A340 600 to Msfs
What a joke of a developer. They argue with people saying it’s not fair to expect a study level sim but like you said, they don’t seem to understand entry level does not equal doesn’t work/hastily released.
Right up there with CraptinSim in the hall of shame.
what about the jokes that are Mscenery and Bredok3D?
I mean, they can try to sell anything they want, but they price it wrong, this should cost 5 bucks max
maybe msfs would benefit from a 2 week trial system like DCS modules have, so you can actually try out the thing you're spending $50-$100 on before realizing it's awful
This is why I love watching Emmnuel, behind pretty BLUNT with all his review! I hope this opens some people's eyes!
LOL I hope LVFR sees this video.
In fact, I want to thank you for your honesty and sincerity in providing the content that you provide
But everbody was soooo excited for the a340 😅
I never got that man! Were they hoping for a horizon mod? I'm glad horizon won't make an enhancement for this, don't wanna give them money for someone elses work.
@@AntoniosSpiliotopoulos Yeah and if i remmember LVFR was the ones who shut down horizon for making improvments on any of their aircraft only becuse they apparenly had worked so hard on the a330neo getting the systems good. Now we have a a330 wich is honestly not good and a a340 that is even worse. If i was lvfr i would have tried to company up with horizon so they make the systems for lvfr. Then they could realese aircrafts with entry level systems that works and they would sell alot more.
@@TeamOdiffat Agreed
@@AntoniosSpiliotopoulos This is what I never got about people buying LVFR. Even people who acknowledge it as not great would say "yeah, but it's good with the Horizon mod". Like what? Why would I give money for a product that needs a free 3rd party mod to be good? lmao
@@diogom612 because there is almost no airliners to choose from. It gets boring flying the tired old fenix everyday
I wish that more developers were incentivized to make aircraft that already have an arcade-plane counterpart. Sadly as sales go, these make much more money, and come to market first, often making devs choose not to go down the route of developing a higher fidelity model. Marketplace should make sure it's at least functional from A to B, or however it advertises itself.
This is coming from a guy who blames console players for the delay of SU15.
@@SN57ONEthat's true
If LTVFR combine all aircraft it might compete with the default aircraft
I like your comment of 'It looks good'. A Lamborghini looks good without an engine.....until you open the bonnet (hood). I think devs treat us like fools when this stuff gets past testing. Probably doesn't get tested as it costs money. They don't care that they are selling faulty goods, or they would not do it. Thank you for your video, even though it was cut short.....for good reason.
This rubbish is "payware". I mean if it was freeware, I would still criticize it, cause obviously there is a lot of freeware with much higher quality, but at least I would keep the critics moderate.
But they dare charging money for this....
Regarding quality assurance I think they only do semi-automated tests to check if the add-on is compliant with marketplace policies, doesn't crash the sim, use unsupported features, have excessive network traffic etc. It doesn't really matter if the airplane is modelled correctly. That would often mean spending hours or days on it, which is something they obviously don't want to do.
It’s such a shame - I really wanted that aircraft to fly well when I bought it, and I even reinstalled it when I saw there was an update (I love the A340 in real life!).
However, much like your experience, every flight that I’ve taken with it has had some really annoying bugs that made me end the flight early. I usually end up hopping back into the inibuilds A300/A320 or PMDG 738 instead. I think I’ll be giving it a break for a while 😂
Great video as always man, appreciate what you do!
Buy the fenix, you will forget the inibuilds a320 really fast
@@dmitrygutenberg9173 Buy fenix and flarte to the moon
In my opinion, allowing a plane to be sold under these conditions is the greatest proof that MSFS is moving from being a simulator to becoming a common game.
crap addons have existed flight simming was invented. Microsoft has always had a very hands-off approach to 3rd party addons. Probably because there's so many of them, they can't quality control everything, although I do think there ought to be a minimum standard for airliners on the marketplace to avoid things like this happening.
Oh dear! Imagine someone who is not a pilot and who can't get what is REALLY wrong with this A340 and think THEY are doing everything wrong!
Not sure if any one has discovered this yet, but to taxi LVFR planes you have to apply forward pressure to the yolk
Fenix should bet on this airplane, high fidelity a340, for fenix could be easy to make it because engines are similar
Bought this plane, but havent jumped into it yet. As always, thanks for the vids
I bought it also, it has a lot of issues (clearly), but my experience was better than what he showed here, I guess they broke it more? I got it as something I will rarely use (I am not a fan of the A340 lol)
Still havent flown it. 🤣
I flown it. It’s not as bad as this guy makes it out to be. The A340-300 is not a rocket. It has a very slow climb. But I guess this guy expected it to be an A320
I'm surprised you continued using Airbus operational philosophy and SOP throughout the whole 'flight'. I commend you on enduring that mate
Don't think I've heard "too bad" this many times in a video before😂
The aircraft is based on the default A320neo (v1) systems, but it doesn't even work like it did. What an incredible disappointment.
The default A320 is study level compared to this.
@@AntoniosSpiliotopoulosyeah but LVFR don’t like study level 🫣
Thanks so much for making this and enduring the failures so we can see how well (or not so well) it works. I have been waiting for years for the A340 to be developed for MSFS and was elated when one finally appeared. I bought it, but have yet to fly it. So now, I am very disappointed. I can only hope LFVR either gets their act together, or perhaps, FBW, Fenix, IniBuilds, Aerosoft, or even Asobo/MS will put one out there that works as it should. I can't help thinking that even if Horizon could have gotten hold of this, it may have been better.
Anyhow, thanks again!
Maybe Latinvfr should now move to making static aircraft for airport immersion?
We just want PMDG T7
So do I. But I'm sure you want a polished and as-bugfree-as-can-be release and not an early one giving you only frustration, right?
I promise they won't hold a finished plane back, once it's ready for release it will be released ;-)
I had a dream about it releasing the other day lol!!!😂😂
Have you tried turning it off an on again 😂
Good one mate😂
Hello A330driver,
Even though there are plenty of alternatives with various new aircraft like the 777 from PMDG or the MD11 from TFDI, I must honestly say that I cannot confirm your errors! At FL100, it levels off nicely and accelerates, and it hasn't overshot any altitudes for me either... O.o
Today (July 1st), I updated the A343 and cannot confirm the errors. However, we don't need to discuss the significant difference compared to the aforementioned aircraft... but it is flyable for me.
Regards, Max
Not a big Airbus fan so will stick with the PMDG 737-800. Good content and a comment for the algorithm. Hope your next flight is happier. :)
Have you given the fenix a try though? 😂
Honestly, I thought the same as you before and I tried learning the airbus but just didn't like it at all. Fast forward a few months and I basically only fly airbus.
Basically, it get's fun when you can fly it properly. In the beginning it's too easy, but once you learn how they do it in real life you always have something to do.
Such a pity, been waiting for such a long time for a A340, i have not bought it yet, looks like it will be some more time before that happens.
I have this aircraft and find it ok apart from when landing,i cant stop the passengers from screaming :)
I've always felt like Latin VFR's "quick release" in products just gives away that it will be basic and lacking in systems/quality. Especially after the A320/21 series using default systems, it's not worth the $30+ and you'll know what to expect; comparable to Captain Sim! I understand not everybody desires to have in-depth systems knowledge for the aircraft they're flying in the sim, but just take the time to work and perfect the product so those who would like to use it on Vatsim, for example, have that capability.
Man, this takes me back to flying FSX default aircraft, except they would level off. At least the LNAV works!
Thnx Emanuel for this video. I am the first to buy this plane when this is ok to fly. I keep an eye on this and hope you will come in the near future whith a better version of this plane. Thnx !!!!!!!
I would argue that the LVFR A340 is useable IF you just need to get from point A to point B and are willing to sacrifice some realism. If you go in with that expectation, it works just fine.
they shouldnt be allowed to charge any more than 9.99 for this kinda of crap
You should do the same flight again in the tollis a340 for xp12... just to see the difference! LVFR is laughable...
Hi Emanuel, we are sorry for your experience again with our A340. We identified the problem and its due to being a short flight and DES mode activating, its a default ASOBO A320neo bug that we still have on all our airbus and with the avionics update we are working
this will be fixed. On longer flights what you experienced doesn't happen. It seems Descend mode activated even before you took off which is a horrible bug and this is the outcome. Our apologies for that.
horizon sim won't improve the a340?
Maybe it's time for your company to evolve to something more than default A320 behavior. Just a thought.
Bought the aircraft and in less then 20 minutes i was saying inside my head; damn i have been scamed 😮 please make this aircraft work correctly, PLEASE !!!
If you’re going to charge money for an Airbus aircraft, your benchmark is Fenix and your minimum viable is FBW. Nothing in this A340 is working; basic systems cannot be this broken. It doesn’t matter if you’re using the autopilot or hand flying, the FMS / flight director cannot be non-functional for any sense of realism. That you can’t even do a packs of TO is just silly. Hell, even iniBuilds buggy A320neoV2 is vastly superior to this paid A340. There’s no QA in the marketplace, IMHO.
I fly the LVFR A339 and it performs alot better in terms of auto pilot but LVFR really needs to work on their ground handling and Adding more working buttons in the cockpit.
When I tried their A330 it also worked a lot better.
Come on A380 and 777!
Danke für das Video. Das Flugzeug ist einfach nur schreglich.
WOW!! Is it possible that the update is WORSE than the original airplane?
I did not buy this airplane because the initial reviews were that it looked great but flew like crap. This video demonstrates two things: First, the quality of this plane is awful and based on what I see, they can’t make it better. Second, this is a brand killer. How can Latin VFR have any credibility if this is the kind of airplane they make?
Thanks for making this video. Really. You have done a great service to the community, for demonstrating that this is an airplane we should not purchase.
I think taxi issue is general FS issue... I have same problems with my 737-800 recently (since SU15). So, maybe at least this one, is not related to LVFR ;)
hey, love the vids, i just wanted to say that i have sucessfully completed two long haul flights in this aircraft almost problem free, (EGLL-KBOS & FAOR-YPPH) only gripe was with the innacurate flare characteristics, unsure why you experienced the issues that you did but managed climb and even descent works for me (unsure if it still does as i havnt flown it since the new update) i do agree that it is far from a good standard however i dont believe it is a total write off
If it is fundamentally broken, then the price is an outright scam.
But also the defence of "it is for beginners" imo fails on one main reason. They have Navigraph support. What flight simmer who doesn't know about airways, or not do basic overhead flows, etc. would have a Navigraph subscription? Why can I sync my simbrief flight plan, when I can't even enter it properly?
I don't get how they think man. Navigraph support but no qnh on the standby altimeter? Interesting priorities indeed.
@@AntoniosSpiliotopoulos Navigraph but no qnh. Simbrief but no airways. No emergency light switch, but in the wrong position. Vnav but no Vnav.
I've recently purchased some LVFR scenery and although is it not the game stuff like aircraft, their airports are right on the edge between good airport and really bad airport. They use mix of normal high and low level textures even if very visible places. Some airports have terrain glitches, some airport concourses connected to terminal are connected in a way that is is exactly in the middle of the window and lower texture like from 2000 games is used for the concourse outside. Honestly I dont have high opinion of their quality with scenery and when this developer attitude goes into the aircraft creation it is a recipe for a problem. If they cant do airport right and update it later down the road they simply cant produce good aircraft, especialyl not for 30 or 35 €. This aircraft should cost like 15-20€ max.
Hope that 2024 is be more strict with paid scams
"Let me test an LVFR Product if its good now!!!" Things no one ever said.
I think the poor turning performance has to do with the new SU15, where they made turning more "realistic", it will probably take some time for most developers to adjust their aircraft for this
I guess you'll have to wait for the iniBuilds A330 coming in MS2024 (or Aerosoft, whoever gets there first!). At least other similar options are on the horizon.
Do they actually charge for this plane?
They do 😭
I think entry level should mean easier gps options or extra assistance. Not broken. Easy plane or entry level should be a plane that you can learn on
Pretty amazing how they managed to be WORSE than CaptainSim 😅
How could people expect a great aircraft from LatinVFR? They made the A320 family and it's better not to talk about them.
Their sceneries are good, though
Don’t waste your time on Latin VFR unless you just want to showcase arcade planes for Xbox users
Things must be pretty slow if Latin VFR is the only thing smoking
Well, arcade planes are what make the most money in our sim world. A large part of users are using them. They deserve to be reviewed. As I figured in my LVFR A330 review, these can actually be quite okay aircraft for their userbase. Just this one... is not. And that, too, deserves to be said.
@@A330Driver
X plane is more suited for study level user types and MSFS is more suited for the general user population using mostly gamer based aircraft
Both serve their user bases well
Some people go crazy trying to make x plane look like MSFS but they miss the point that each sim serves a different purpose
@@samuelsmith2112I disagree on your assessment. MSFS offers the best overall package. Flying is not just flight dynamics. It’s an entire system that comes together. For MSFS you have many many more accurate airports, you have weather, you have more aircraft types. It’s the overall package that matters. And MSFS definitely wins there.
Just sad tbh, I was so exited for an A340-300 with alot of anticipation to be added into a flight sim. And the fact that its unflyable just disappoints me :(
updated? That means the previous version didn't have a cockpit?
Needless to say this aircraft is insanely beautiful on the outside, but not so much in the cockpit😅
MSFS2024 Released date 19th of November 🎉
This is disappointing. I wanted this in MSFS and was optimistic it would at least be decent enough, but this is piss poor and seems very rushed. I hope they'll continue working on it to at least make it serviceable. I will say I didn't mind their A319 that much but haven't flown it or anything in MSFS a long while. In my opinion LFVR aren't close to being as bad as Mscenery, CaptainSim and Bredok3D but this 'aircraft' didn't help them, it hurt them badly.
I wish toliss would bring their A340 over. Or that Fenix or Aerosoft will do Airbus long hauls like the A340 series. NOt just the A330 from AE.
I think you made a mistake installing the update…..there is no reason to get this angry………..😂
All jokes aside, I don’t know the price but at least the basics should work. The purchases I did on aircraft that did not do what they promised you can not count on four hands. I certainly do not purchase everything…..contrairy…but still there are developers that continue to disappoint and I wonder if they are not ashamed of themselves….delivering such a quality. I really like your honest opinions and your sarcastic remarks….although you could be a bit less emotional😂…but then again….it shows your passion for the topics and I really like that! Thanks and keep the good work up!😊
wont get any more LVFR products... I FEEL CHEATED
Fly this one on a VATSIM FNO to test the controller’s patience 😅
Have you tried putting it in rice?
That tillerproblem is something more planes have. Perhaps a MSFS issue
Lvfr a340 is more of a plain than a plane to fly... sad, i would have bought it, if it had advanced avionics and would work as it should!!
The Anti Stall worked 😂👍
Since I'm on Xbox, Captain Sim, until the introduction of WASM suppoty, was the only other option to fly something adequate other than default airliners. Since Xbox had the capability of handling high fidelity aircraft, there should be absolutely no reason why any aircraft with Navigraph integration should not have fully functional autopilot and avionics. Having 100% of the buttons being functional is one thing, but to not even have operational VNAV? Everyone who purchased this should get their money back.
I'm kind of fedup of this aircraft also
'Once bittern twice shy'. LVFR have had my money for a shite product before, and NEVER AGAIN. They should be called out for this and other shocking products in their name.
When the marketplace allows the likes of mscenery and Captain Sim, they have to be consistent and also allow this, unfortunately...
It also does a hard right turn after every landing. Pretty random
Headwind simulations, can you improve this aircraft please lol
If it had a horizon mod it would be fantastic
edelwiss :D Nice swiss pronunciation there
This is horrendous. And I’m definitely a spoiled study level simmer so I try and give the entry level aircraft a lot of rope and wouldn’t expect too many features or that much by way of systems or avionics fidelity but this was ridiculous.
Implemented VNAV? lol where, to the pavement?
No managed climb, no selected climb, FD cue gives full nose down, no speed management, and no ALT* 🤦♂️
The LVFR aircrafts are such a joke. This is the best confirmation to that.
Does anything in this addon work as it should?? 😂
People keep buying the shit. They gonna keep making it. And I I don’t want to hear “ WeLl WhAt AbOuT uS cAsUaL sImMiErS” when you can go buy planes that are 100% better and made by real devs that care about the community for the same or maybe a tiny bit more
Is there any possibility that aerosoft develop a340?
Not likely, they can’t even get out their A330
Why doesn’t LVFR Use the A320neo V2 instruments?
I would say quit review with Latin VFR any aircraft except MD-11 since they have released early product but not having a roadmap update content what it would bring any bug fixes and implementation.
While we're looking forward to IniBuilds and FBW like A350 and A380 upcoming content.
it's easier to say what works than what doesn't work because it's less...
Thats why they should let Headwind fix this because they cant clearly
Inibuilds MSFS A320 now sets the baseline for simulations and it was a free component of SU15! Malfunctioning poorly programmed work won't work!
I blame Swissport
Are there delays involved?
I don’t get mad. I just go to Xplane and fly the incredible FF 777-200 the best airliner in any sim.
Funny you are saying the company name in Swiss German...
They were ok at making sceneries they should stick to that
IMO,
Latin VFR planes = waste of time. Latin VFR scenery = pretty good. Here's hoping that one day we'll get a decent A340 in MSFS20/24.
Always i mention LVFR aircraft never deserve to be paid. Even the a330 is not good ..
Fenix
Inibuilds
Fbw
Good thing you distanced yourself from the situation instead of getting on vatsim and cursing a controller out
Make something with Knowledge. Apparently none of them seem to have understanding of the Airbus and its systems.
one of your funniest videos ever, "What a shit show" is correct. Latin VFR products are just eye candy for those people who want to MSFS 2020 on the xbox....just for kids, worst money I have ever spent, uninstalled it and dont ever use it...... thank god for the Fenix A320.