It is very clear that the state is clutching on straws. That's why they are doing everything in their power to avoid confronting the elephant in the room :Calling the real people who can really come to share the light on who really killed Senzo, and that question would have been answered a long time ago by summoning those who were inside the house on the day of the incident. That is the essence of the case, not bank statements of the accused and whether they know each other or whether they were found in possession of cellular phones while in prison. Why is the state willing to call fringe witnesses in the form of police who took the buccal DNA evidence to prove something that is not even related to the actual incident of 26 October 2014 and yet, they have no passion to call the actual witnesses who were present to come and testify about what they saw firsthand about the real reason court is sitting? Is this still about justice, or is it about pinning the case on the poor fall guys who must really take the blame in order to protect whoever it is the state desires to protect at the expense of getting justice for Senzo meyiwa? I mean if this was not a shoddy way to cover-up, why is the state not keen to give Kelly her day in court? Not necessarily as the accused, but just as a witness, period. And in the process, she could share with us why it was necessary to clean the crime scene, debrief by wiping out Senzo 's phone, and why she did a simswipe on Senzo' s phone. Maybe she can also share on why DNA exonerated all the accused from the crime scene. And just for interest 'sake, she can explain why her cell phone was in conversation with one of the accused. Surely there is no harm in that, or is there...? Viva the truth viva justice. 🇿🇦🔥🔥
I'm not surprised he couldn't pick Baloyi's "english" sarcasm because Baloyi learned it from him. I still remember the same utterances to Msholololo as well.
Hello Clantis we love you ❤ . God protect all the Advocate to finish thi cooked case We pray for them to this beast jurge and honest Baloyi a Big lie .
Clantis my brother you are doing a good job, remain standing, iif t wash not for you guys with this podcasts the devils in thos court have been exposed. God in cotrol
Hayi Mgumezulu is really the beast, what a clear clarity of how he feels and shows he knows what he is doing, the judge might pretend as if he is not hearing or he doesn't care of what he is saying, the truth of the matter is , it's on record
Clantis there's more, we missed winking of the eye by ratha to the witness & baloyi? Another strange thing we didn't pay attention to is the mumbling by judge with the witnesses like there has been some memorizing of a script. I just didn't note the areas where these happened but will go back to note them.
@@christinamoila5644 thanks hey, he even showed her with his pen that the specimen were put in the mouth. That pen I tell you means business against the defence
I am so shocked for ratha not saying anything to baloyi for not supplying all the information to the defense if it was defense all he'll would brake loose, it so heartbreaking really,I don't know what baloyi has or knows about ratha if there is any, it is huge bcs nothing is never said to baloyi especially in this mess he puts the defense in, this is shocking the whole world is watching this mess
I will not rest until Ratha is off this case, especially after his judgment of the trial within trial. The perpetrators, the state and its witnesses as well as the judge are one big family. However God is bigger than all of them.
Iyooooh Baloyi now is confused jikijiki now accused 3 is communicating with accused and yet Gouws accused no3 is not linked to cellphone communication Ratha dedela our 5sons ulindeni ngempela judiciary system and NPA niyhule nithini ngempela haibonah💔😭
Hi Clantis and the clan, when Tanie Ratha speaks to blue eye ball Baloyi his body language and tone differs from his contemptuous demeanor towards the defense. Even that laughter when Adv Monyeki disputed Baloyi's fib.
That's true God is in control God 🙏 have mercy for Senzo's family they have to find Justice for their beloved one we are watching what happened in court and the whole South Africa 🇿🇦 watching this God protect this lawyers give them powder please 🙏🙏🙏 in Jesus name
We trust GOD watch how rata change to entertain that useless witnes. 2021 nothing reflects on the murder case. So this judge is greedy hope same ppl jp wjo bought him must steal if back grom his bank acc or the sofa
It back. Protecting baloyi dont point out that baloyi is a crook same like him rata. CHICCO is thè that mess up. Watch and see GOD gomna bring chiccos name in shame tru baloyi
How I wish they could peruze through that disc just to see if really the state did put that information in there, but all i know if you stored something on a disc, you must have it readily available on the computer
May the good Lord assist them to work together and understand each other. We are praying for their safety. Baloyi hai hai is so cruel each they are creating new things or new information.
Judge Ratha, we are watching you, and we can't stop makong noise until something is done to this case. You are nothing but a pathetic judge wena so called corrupt judge
Clan family I just watched the video that was done by Zebra Family 4 days ago, where it shows the judge winked at the prosecutor and the witness. Please, Clantis, cover that as well because the Zebra Family it's still a new channel, so that video is not seen by many
The judgen has never spoke in any indegeneous languages yet with Gouws he uttered in Baas language, moreover Adv. Mngomezulu is an honest man as far as law is concerned.
brown envelop must be taken back. even if he used it. Baloyi where is 375 docket tell the nation, how much did you receive for that 375 docket to disappear
Easy as A B C what gudge is doing making witnesses and prosecute comfortable when speaking to one witness from English to Africaans when he understands English this case should be walk in the park state knows they know wrong arrests only ruling coming out everytime
Because you are state officers, Mr Baloyi, you will never be dishonest. Is that the best you can say to prove you are honest? In short, this guy is saying that because he is under state, anything he says must be taken positive. Then, the judge's response shows he is part of Baloyi's dirty laundry. An old man who is so corrupt for a judge. The truth hurts the judge calls it sarcasm
Thank you defense now is time lenkantolo kade idlala ngani uBaloyi no Ratha sebephumile ekuthetheni icala lokubulawa kukasenzo angilazi leli analithethayo
At long last, they all adhered to my advice that should have objected a long time ago,baloyi is leading character evidence to show whatever he is trying to show,this affidavit by deceased deponent must be inadmissible
We need docket 375 not all this witness we getting tired with lies Thixo awukhawule Baloyi no Gininda ukuzingelo ofakazi Lalani manje yooo nisenza opopayi manje sinibhekile
As I have been saying, there has been a lot of technical errors right from the investors, to the arrest, to the evidence furnished, so this case is lost to the state, no matter how Ratha could seem he's siding with the defense. Ratha knows this very well, that's why I tend to believe that it's his strategy to trap the state. 🤞 I've also been saying that this is just being dragged and wasting public resources, since the trial within a trial, it's exhausting, that's why we are now impatient. But mark my words, it will end in tears for the state.
Half a sentence and Ratha respond.He listen to answer and not to understand,called himself experienced but still have a lot of basic things to learn.He should have listened to what Mr Mnisi had to say.Its better if Ratha never comes again ,let him go on holiday for ever
We are still waiting on Zungu's written statement but dololo. What kind of trial that has information that is important not available. This case needs to be thrown away once. Uhlulekile uBaloyi no Ratha mabapheke obunye ubufakazi sive. Ziyakhala manje ecourt.
Mngomezulu u r the man
God keep him safe strong and healthy 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Mngomezulu is the man . Ntanzi you are in our prayers as well 🙏🙏🙏🙏
My heart is white today. The defense team seems to be working together
We pray 🙏 they stand together until the end 🙏🙏🙏 no weapon formed against them shall prosper ❤❤ God is in control 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Get an actual Petition going. Get actual signatures and present them to judge President!
Morning Clan family I've already signed the petition, proud of defence unity... United they shall stand, defence was on 🔥🔥🔥
The defense team always shown professionalism !!! To God be the glory❤❤
I wonder how Baloi and Ratha feel about this whole thing...shame to them
God is in control
The judge's duty is to mock the defense when they come with good points. He will never ever call Vaseline to order. This is heartbreaking.
Vaseline or fish oil 🤔😂🤭
"Vaseline"...😂😂
😢😢@@tokimohoto8637😢0
Lets sign the PETITION good peole and continue to pray, God is working behind the scene. The truth is about to come out
Please send me a link for petition
@@ntuthukomhlongo4468There is the link shlobo
@@ntuthukomhlongo4468It's on Clantis community page
I have signed last week.
This was the best,I was so happy
It's an open secret that the state doesn't have a case against five accused.
It is very clear that the state is clutching on straws. That's why they are doing everything in their power to avoid confronting the elephant in the room :Calling the real people who can really come to share the light on who really killed Senzo, and that question would have been answered a long time ago by summoning those who were inside the house on the day of the incident. That is the essence of the case, not bank statements of the accused and whether they know each other or whether they were found in possession of cellular phones while in prison. Why is the state willing to call fringe witnesses in the form of police who took the buccal DNA evidence to prove something that is not even related to the actual incident of 26 October 2014 and yet, they have no passion to call the actual witnesses who were present to come and testify about what they saw firsthand about the real reason court is sitting? Is this still about justice, or is it about pinning the case on the poor fall guys who must really take the blame in order to protect whoever it is the state desires to protect at the expense of getting justice for Senzo meyiwa? I mean if this was not a shoddy way to cover-up, why is the state not keen to give Kelly her day in court? Not necessarily as the accused, but just as a witness, period. And in the process, she could share with us why it was necessary to clean the crime scene, debrief by wiping out Senzo 's phone, and why she did a simswipe on Senzo' s phone. Maybe she can also share on why DNA exonerated all the accused from the crime scene. And just for interest 'sake, she can explain why her cell phone was in conversation with one of the accused. Surely there is no harm in that, or is there...? Viva the truth viva justice. 🇿🇦🔥🔥
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Very true, u nailed it
uyishaye khona ngempela!
I'm not surprised he couldn't pick Baloyi's "english" sarcasm because Baloyi learned it from him. I still remember the same utterances to Msholololo as well.
Hello Clantis we love you ❤ . God protect all the Advocate to finish thi cooked case We pray for them to this beast jurge and honest Baloyi a Big lie .
😊😊😊😊😊pp
He knows that he's DISHONEST WHY IS HE CRYING 😂😂😂
Clantis my brother you are doing a good job, remain standing, iif t wash not for you guys with this podcasts the devils in thos court have been exposed. God in cotrol
United we conquer. Divided we fall
Cheers to the defence Team
Good Adv Mgomezulu
Hayi Mgumezulu is really the beast, what a clear clarity of how he feels and shows he knows what he is doing, the judge might pretend as if he is not hearing or he doesn't care of what he is saying, the truth of the matter is , it's on record
Thanks for giving us this information because we are not in the court
RATHA IS OLD AND HE IS NEXT TO HIS GRAVE. HE MUST REPENT
Or nursing homes
Ratha is sooo self righteous...those are men and not boys.. Amen
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Clantis there's more, we missed winking of the eye by ratha to the witness & baloyi? Another strange thing we didn't pay attention to is the mumbling by judge with the witnesses like there has been some memorizing of a script. I just didn't note the areas where these happened but will go back to note them.
I have the vedio where he winked twice to the witness lady of the swabs, allegedly conducted bucal swabs on Ntanzi, it was too much good people
@@christinamoila5644 thanks hey, he even showed her with his pen that the specimen were put in the mouth. That pen I tell you means business against the defence
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I've never heard Ratha repremind Baloi, but when the defense tries to present their evidence he shouts at them as if he's talking to his labourers
With God everything is possible, that's our God we are serving he in control in this case. I'm happy now we see the light at the end of the tunnel
We pray for their safety ecspecially Mngomezulu, long and healthy life and wealth 🤑 safety for his family and also Ntanzi 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Advocate. Baloyi is incompetent and dishonest.
Very dishonest and Ratha has a very non-chalant approach to his lackluster performance!
Wow!!clan,it's amazing how this judge asking all the defence for their opinions
I wonder how many people are involved in cooking this pot ????
This case was supposed to be given to the judge Mr Moseneka not this apartheid judge Ratha.
brown envelope will make him to change
I am so shocked for ratha not saying anything to baloyi for not supplying all the information to the defense if it was defense all he'll would brake loose, it so heartbreaking really,I don't know what baloyi has or knows about ratha if there is any, it is huge bcs nothing is never said to baloyi especially in this mess he puts the defense in, this is shocking the whole world is watching this mess
It has been breaking my heart from day1 since been appointed.mara anyway modimo oteng shame.
My point exactly
I will not rest until Ratha is off this case, especially after his judgment of the trial within trial. The perpetrators, the state and its witnesses as well as the judge are one big family. However God is bigger than all of them.
Get the people's concern in mainstream media. Name and shame
Ratha should be called lord of the Flys, and NOT my Lord.
all cases under Baloyi must b re visited str8
The judge is being sarcastic now " the knew evidence as you call it" what rubbish is that!!!
Morning family
Here catching up 😊
The judge is working with the state
Without a doubt
This Judge mhmhmh he Don't even hide ukuthi usebenza noBaloyi
The state needs more time bcoz their cooking wasnt cooked through!!
Iyooooh Baloyi now is confused jikijiki now accused 3 is communicating with accused and yet Gouws accused no3 is not linked to cellphone communication Ratha dedela our 5sons ulindeni ngempela judiciary system and NPA niyhule nithini ngempela haibonah💔😭
Aowa Tanie Ratha, consider the plight of the defense. After all their comprehensive supplication. You concur with your deceptive Baloyi.
Hi Clantis and the clan, when Tanie Ratha speaks to blue eye ball Baloyi his body language and tone differs from his contemptuous demeanor towards the defense. Even that laughter when Adv Monyeki disputed Baloyi's fib.
Ya iqiniso mngo an miss mshololo they are busy nge documents yabo 2020 bayeka iifirst doc liphi iqiniso la
The judge has no shame
The defence was lit sana
Tapping of the pen is disturbing, clearly shows that the Presiding Judge is not focus or interested!
Strange that the defence never complained about it
I do not like the use of Afrikaans at times in this court. We are tired of all this.❤
Ratha is doing it on purpose and he knows that most people don't understand it 😔😭😔😭
Get a proper petition going.
That's true God is in control God 🙏 have mercy for Senzo's family they have to find Justice for their beloved one we are watching what happened in court and the whole South Africa 🇿🇦 watching this God protect this lawyers give them powder please 🙏🙏🙏 in Jesus name
,🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We trust GOD watch how rata change to entertain that useless witnes. 2021 nothing reflects on the murder case. So this judge is greedy hope same ppl jp wjo bought him must steal if back grom his bank acc or the sofa
It back. Protecting baloyi dont point out that baloyi is a crook same like him rata. CHICCO is thè that mess up. Watch and see GOD gomna bring chiccos name in shame tru baloyi
Rata think we stupid he act that what the defence bring to the table is not suitable only baloyi lies
Where is Steyn , Gouws needs to excuse himself and allow Steyn to be on the stand.
This judge is openly against the defence and in favour of the state including the witnesses.He even talk in Afrikaans to this non black policeman.
Brazenly so. This can't continue.
Ratha must really be removed from this trial, the man is biased and the defence is doing a great job👏👏👏👏👏
Judge Ratha why uma Baloyi ekhuluma kube uyena oqedela inkulumo
Waa what professionalism in Court thank Mr Ratha and the whole team
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣You got jokes.
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Hi Clantis
That pen :that pen is irritating,is he listening to Mngomezulu or he is irritated by him🙁
Baloyi and Ratha are enjoying to continue cooking the case and turning it to a rotten potjie kos.
Really! tapping the pen on the desk in the courtroom during the proceedings shows disrespect.
Steyn said there were no 205 according to his testimony
...and Baloyi is smiling and he intervenes and it's normal to this judge"IS THAT SURCUSM"...HE CHIRPED IN!!!
That was disgusting...he's been sarcastic throughout this trial.
How I wish they could peruze through that disc just to see if really the state did put that information in there, but all i know if you stored something on a disc, you must have it readily available on the computer
Baloyi now says everything that was not supplied to the defence is on that disc
@@tefumakadikhomotso7179 exactly because to me that doesn't seat very well especially knowing that some can't open the disc
I have always been saying to my brother since the brought in of thise judge that he is with the state on thise case judging from his comments.
May the good Lord assist them to work together and understand each other. We are praying for their safety. Baloyi hai hai is so cruel each they are creating new things or new information.
Judge Ratha, we are watching you, and we can't stop makong noise until something is done to this case. You are nothing but a pathetic judge wena so called corrupt judge
Clan family I just watched the video that was done by Zebra Family 4 days ago, where it shows the judge winked at the prosecutor and the witness. Please, Clantis, cover that as well because the Zebra Family it's still a new channel, so that video is not seen by many
Ratha always communicate with witnesses and Baloyi by winking or tapping the pen
Very bad
The judgen has never spoke in any indegeneous languages yet with Gouws he uttered in Baas language, moreover Adv. Mngomezulu is an honest man as far as law is concerned.
the state is always so dishonest
brown envelop must be taken back. even if he used it. Baloyi where is 375 docket tell the nation, how much did you receive for that 375 docket to disappear
This judge makes me nauseous and generally sick. If tables were turned, the poor defense would be fried in a hot pan
This judge understands Baloyi even when he has not yet finished a sentence wow
Because they were in the same kitchen, cooking this case together with the real perpetrators. Nxxxxxxx
💐💐💐 ADV MNGOMEZULU 🔥🔥
What's BC and National Commissioner saying/ doing about Mogola who's always in court. Is she investigating the case in court 😮
Listening skill is selective from "my lord" 😢 Uyadelela lomkhulu
RATHA NOT EVERYBODY BUT BALOYI MUST GET HIS HOUSE IN ORDER, WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM IN REPRIMANDING BALOYI😡😡😡?
Easy as A B C what gudge is doing making witnesses and prosecute comfortable when speaking to one witness from English to Africaans when he understands English this case should be walk in the park state knows they know wrong arrests only ruling coming out everytime
Because you are state officers, Mr Baloyi, you will never be dishonest. Is that the best you can say to prove you are honest? In short, this guy is saying that because he is under state, anything he says must be taken positive. Then, the judge's response shows he is part of Baloyi's dirty laundry. An old man who is so corrupt for a judge. The truth hurts the judge calls it sarcasm
baloi must cancel his qulification is to defend crime
100% True my brother
Thank you defense now is time lenkantolo kade idlala ngani uBaloyi no Ratha sebephumile ekuthetheni icala lokubulawa kukasenzo angilazi leli analithethayo
Mngo did Lords work here
At long last, they all adhered to my advice that should have objected a long time ago,baloyi is leading character evidence to show whatever he is trying to show,this affidavit by deceased deponent must be inadmissible
Hello hello clan family
We need docket 375 not all this witness we getting tired with lies Thixo awukhawule Baloyi no Gininda ukuzingelo ofakazi Lalani manje yooo nisenza opopayi manje sinibhekile
Defense mustn't allow this old cow Ratha to help them as he offered himself. He must just keep helping the state as he normally does.
He can tap his desk all he can ,wink his eyes etc, but .Mngo put it in record
How do will the state proof that the accused knew each other in 2014 when senzo was murdered not in 2018 as per the records
Mr Baloyi if he does not see this he is running his Job carrier in need of money and i again u er killing the counrty 😢😢😢😢 with the lies
As I have been saying, there has been a lot of technical errors right from the investors, to the arrest, to the evidence furnished, so this case is lost to the state, no matter how Ratha could seem he's siding with the defense. Ratha knows this very well, that's why I tend to believe that it's his strategy to trap the state. 🤞
I've also been saying that this is just being dragged and wasting public resources, since the trial within a trial, it's exhausting, that's why we are now impatient. But mark my words, it will end in tears for the state.
I tend to disagree Ratha has been assigned to burry the accused allegedely. Mark my words
What is this South africa???...what are you saying???....look what the direction this case is now taking!!!
Mr baloyi is key holder in to that case yes or no
Ratha will never call out Baloyi
State sabotage defence in the presence of hon judge and allow this to happen
Baloyi is a criminal. He does this deliberately because Ratha is on his side
URatha ufuna ukuzokwenzani ngoba uyahluleka ukuqondisa uBaloyi ufuna ukuzokona
Half a sentence and Ratha respond.He listen to answer and not to understand,called himself experienced but still have a lot of basic things to learn.He should have listened to what Mr Mnisi had to say.Its better if Ratha never comes again ,let him go on holiday for ever
Tyoo 2014, 2018 kwenzakali lapha
Sigebengu somushushisi neJaji lapha
Ithini lendangala ngesilungu ibhedela umshololo
Buka uRatha akakamuzwa uMnisi ukuthi uthini useyamvimba uyatshengisa ukuthi usebenza noBaloyi
Heee Baloy is a sneaky sigebhenga 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 as for trying to shift blame to the defense.
We are still waiting on Zungu's written statement but dololo. What kind of trial that has information that is important not available. This case needs to be thrown away once. Uhlulekile uBaloyi no Ratha mabapheke obunye ubufakazi sive. Ziyakhala manje ecourt.
You will wait until Jesus comes back😅😂😂😂
Mr Ratha listen to Mr Mnisi
Hello magistrate
Ratha can't call out Baloyi on his nonsense and it is appalling