Just discovered the channel recently you do great work. So I’m looking at outback crash bars and not sure about the fitment with the KTM auxiliary lights. Did you ever go that route?
Hello mate and thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated 🙏. Sadly the outback were not an offering at the time I had the SAS. Ended up not running uppers in the end. And after dropping my SAS off road a few times I learned the lowers did the job just fine.they stick out far enough that it’s most likely the hand guards and lower bars that get scuffed anyway. I never touched the main panels… and if a fall was that hard you did end up damaging the upper panels then you probably had more serious costs around the bike anyway. Just my thoughts of course.. also looks better without all the scaffold around the bike imo 👍 All the best Ric
Wait for the SW-Motech, both lower and upper crash bars, they’re about to come out. I’ve had 4 1290 SAS since 2016 and believe me, I’ve tried all, and the very best is the combination of SW-Motech crashbars and Skidplate 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Hiya Ricardo! Thanks for the info and comment. yeah I hear already from Gassss!!! (comment below) explaining that SWMotech is bringing something out in Jan. Look forward to seeing their offering. I know of them well from my triumph 800XC ownership over the years! Great stuff too cheers Ric
Thanks Ricardo to open up this discussion, as u guys I own a KTM1299SAS. Honestly the foundational problem here is the bottom support of the lower crash bars in the base of the engine vs attach the bars in the chassis , I assume in order to not create bigger issues on the engine KTM came with this “deformable” bars…. the consequence is if u add extra bars on top make the thing unfeasible because the bottom bars are too flexible….this is the problem that Outback mentioned and I agree. Heed came with a “creative” solution but I agree with Ricardo that the superior support is not ok…… so I will wait for Outback proposal. No comments on Touratech joke
Hello Robert! Thanks mate for the message. And I agree the lower crash bars do move under strain. Not the best I have had in the past to be fair. I completely understand Outback Motortek problem when coming up with a solution. But maybe they should just keep quiet or say they are working on something that hopefully will be available soon. Instead of criticize other products but yet produce nothing... KTM lower bars are not the best but on a scale of 1-10 are probably within the 2-3 region? at least they do something.. HEED have come up with their own solution completely independent of KTM bars but also have their own compromises.. but at least these I guess are a 5-6 (just my opinion from observation) so do make a positive difference... Touratech again not the best "overall" design when using the KTM bars yet has to be of some benefit surely?.. maybe 2-3 but again still better than nothing with no compromise on other accessories. yes I am keen to see Outback's offering also SW Motech so I hear in Jan22!!! Cheers Ric
I crashed off-road (15mph) and the oem lower bars worked great. scratched but straight and functional. I'm tired of waiting for outback motortek, so I just ordered the Touratech uppers. Curious to see how they do in the next wreck.
Hiya Jake. Thanks for dropping in! Agree the oem bars do the job just fine for these kinda of spills. See my vid on crash feedback. I never bothered with uppers ever since 👍 czcams.com/video/O7MqHEX2Qt4/video.html
Hey Ric, thanks for posting the vid, just my 2 bobs worth on the Heed bars...I think it would be a fairly straightforward task to fabricate a spacer or bracket to utilise the mounting points for both the Heed bars and the KTM aux lights... unless I'm missing something 😕
Hiya Andrew thanks for the comment and I agree I initially considered that myself. It seems an easy obvious option with very little work involved. However after speaking to Heed and looking closer there are a couple of things that I am bothered about. 1. Why on earth has heed fixed the bars to plastic fairing panel. That bit where the Aux lights are is about 3mm plastic and makes no sense. It’s more of a risk imo of breaking more stuff 2. I want my frame protectors and don’t fancy cutting them up to accommodate the bars 3. I’ve also just learnt tonight they don’t fit the pp bash plate either. You’d need to cut out sections on either side to allow for the bars to fit. 4. Back to the Aux lights.. even if added spacers I’m concerned the from bumper of the heed design will affect light spread (but cannot be sure on that) I’d only know if I had a set of bars in person . It’s just not reassuring when heed themselves say no and should use their universal fitting kit. So overall not really getting the vibes 😂👍
I think a part of “shifting” is overlooked here. When a rail shifts, it has absorbed the energie, so that energie is not forced into the frame or mountings. It is also a way of protecting. And I guess they see the plastic lower parts as “changeable” sins only the fuelcock is behind it with a lot of space. 🤔
Indeed this is the approach of KTM specially to protect the engine mounting. Not saying is bad, is a way to protect of course, but in my POV all aftermarket companies will struggle to create more robust crash bars without compromising the mounting areas…. I’m sure they will come with creative solutions like Heed guys ….. it will become very interesting next months. 😅
Hey up mate. To be honest they do move a little on a drop but I hear that’s all part of the design so stress is not transferee to parted where it’s attached like sump fixing. It’s one of those things. Some say they are fine with a drop and some say they are poor. The main topic here is that they are believed to be poor “for attaching” upper bars due to this design. That’s the main issue. But as a stand alone lower engine bar they should do the trick. To be fair I like them and the style suits the bike. I don’t plan on dropping the bike anyway (none of us do) but if I do and the most I have to worry about it black lower trim then I’m ok with that. I don’t expect it to protect the upper plastics though as it’s “lower” bars. Also I’m not sure if you did decide on other bars if you manage to find any…if they would be compatible with the oem bash plate hahaha … Always something!! I hear the SW Motech bars require or most likely require their bash plate in order to fix their engine bars haha.. So your call.. 👍😂🤦♂️
Perfect video at the perfect time for me, I will compromise the frame protector rater than bike safety (touratech shifting bars) + 300£ for that is insane. Thanks again for such an amazing video 🙏🏼
I saw a version from Motea. It looks to be mounted in the engine around the exhaust pipe. And just 1 bolt thru the lower crash bar. Has anyone tested them or seen them live?
Hello Arnold! great to hear from you mate! And congrats on the new beast! I hope you enjoy it trouble free!! Sorry to hear about the waiting times on accessories (We all have experienced this) :( Fingers crossed you may get them early.. just keep checking in with the dealer to see haha.. Thanks Ric
Outback is super expensive over 700 euro just for upper and lower. than that prices vary within the EU, which is disgusting . Heed you can fix the ktm frame protectors slightly modified.
Hiya Ric! Apologies I did not see this last message from you!!! As for bars to mount. If I had to I would probably go with Touratech. None of the bars at the moment are perfected in my opinion. However you may not have seen my assessment on the KTM lower engine bars video? I dont think I will buy upper bars anymore. I am happy with the level of protection the stock bars provide. Thanks Ric
@@RicardoYeep Hi Ric, thank you for your reply, effeivamante, it would seem that the lower bars, we do their duty. even if they deform enough in the event of a collision. you are 7n big x your dedication to this channel
Hiya Ron. Good question and one that I anticipated at some point. Basically after nearly a year and half of owning the 1290 with KTM bars only (as on the R model) I found them to be more than sufficient to protect the bike. I have dropped the bike on both sides and only ended up with scratches on the engine bars. They look great and suit the bike and do not hide the stunning look of the bike behind a horrible cage. Initially I was keen to install full upper engine bars but after actually a tried and tested experience with my KTM ones I haven’t even bothered looking into adding uppers at more cost, more weight, and basically ruin the look. Just my 2 cents but hey we are all different👍 Cheers Ric
Bars should deform, because if they don't then the mounting points take the stress and break the lugs (or bend the bolts)- something has to adsorb the impact.If you have to spend another £300 replacing the OE bars then that will be cheaper than a side of KTM panels.
Hiya mate.. yeah agree just like a car bumper it needs to "absorb" the impact and not transfer it... I do like the OEM bars they suit the styling of the bike too.. And I have no issue with then making contact with the lower small black plastics under impact.. The Touratech ones look the best option to me so far however I may live to regret saying that... I may just wait now until January as I hear SW Motech are releasing something in early Jan22! Cheers Ric
Crash bars should be the 1st items to put on before you drive bike out of show room floor.(A grudge purchase for sure but..).Touratech always pricy but usually good quality.Thanks for the advice.
Привет, мой друг! Нет проблем, и спасибо, что сообщили мне, что нашли эту информацию полезной. Мне жаль, что здесь нет красивых игрушек, которые можно было бы показать в качестве реального примера, но я надеялся, что люди все равно найдут эту информацию полезной для себя перед покупкой! Еще раз спасибо и будьте осторожны! С уважением, Рик
I've been waiting months for KTMs engine bars, seriously considering canceling the order. I've also opted for every carbon fibre accessory including the fuel cell covers so the bars might hide my bling anyway
Hiya Paul! yeah man I know the feeling as I nearly did out of anger and frustration when I was waiting.... To be honest I don't have any gripes with the OEM lower bars. I like them and the styling really suits the bike. BUT the real test is seeing the bike after I have dropped it. I think you will be ok with the Carbon bits still.. Its quite open anyway. (nice.. I considered getting some too) Cheers Ric
Hey there Florin!! That’s excellent news! Let me know your thoughts and fitting once you have sorted it. Bee keen to hear your opinion albeit biased haha 😂
@@RicardoYeep hi there. I’ve just had the touratech upper crashbar on my bike. I have some pics on the Facebook page KTM 1290 Super Advanture 2021. I am very pleased with the new look 😎
Ciao Ricardo, io ho montato la piastra para coppa della Sw Motech e con quella ho dovuto togliere le barre para motore originali ktm, credo che le uniche barre che si possono abbinare a questa piastra sono le Sw Motech.. che saranno disponibili dalla seconda settimana di gennaio… io valuterei quelle Sw fossi in te.. le Touratech sono inutili e in caso di caduta secondo me non contano nulla.
Ciao di nuovo amico mio! Buono a sentire le informazioni. sì, conosco SW Motech. Buona marca. Anche se non sono entusiasta di spendere più soldi su un altro bash plate così presto. Ma sarei interessato a vedere la loro offerta a gennaio. Se il suo grande poi forse avrei anche a scambiare bash plate troppo poi se questo significa barre di buon motore. Saluti Ric
I bought the tourtec bars, very happy with them, if you go on their website their priced at 280 euros, and I don't believe I paid for shipping either, didn't take them too long to get here in fact I think I was one of a handful to get them when they first released them so I had mine for a little while have to say no issues little tricky to fit but other than that really good product
Hiya Carl cheers mate for the good advice and info on the Touratech! I do like them to be fair and still might purchase a set. Not sure at the moment. Cheers Ric
Hi Carl, I'm currently considering them over the oem powerparts crashbars 61912068044C1. However since the Touratech calls them extension crash bar I'm not sure if they can be mounted directly on the frame or do they need the original crash bar to be mounted on ? Thank you for your reply
@@tayebhaloui top bars are connected to the lower bars via four brackets so no they're not connected to the main frame of the bike, however once connected to the lower bars they are extremely sturdy,
@@RicardoYeep I'll put some pictures of things that are physically done with the crash bars I have now added some Denali spotlights, Which look quite good
I've already purchased Heed ones. I will make You some photo of mounting points, because I have a plan not to use this controversial upper mounting points, so maybe it will be possible to mount KTM spot lights with Heed bars. Will see.
Hiya Kangur! Good man yes I was thinking it could work. I mean those poor controversial fixing points on the fairing panels offer zero structural gains. So seems pointless to have them there. I would be interested to see why HEED decided to do this. Anyway if you can cut these off you should be able to keep the OEM Spot lights. BUT I am not sure still if the bumper frame of the HEED bars at the very front will cause blockage of some of the lights due to its position? Cheers Ric
@@RicardoYeep there is a bigger problem with this crashbars, not only fixing the auxiliary lights. They won't fit with aluminium bash plate without cutting. Sending You a link for Google drive with some photos: drive.google.com/folderview?id=1Yl_dhrexzqzZpbfKjOHp0ZaWqTpkUvS2
@@luxybob hi, I've tried not to mount this upper fixings, but there are some vibrations on upper parts of crash bars, so I've used all fixing points, as manual sais. It seems that this upper mounting points are only for canceling this vibrations, there are metal-rubber mounting elements used for fixing the bars.
Hi Adam that’s not a bad deal! Nice one. Hope they are a good fit and you are pleased with them. I am still waiting on the offering from outback motortek (eventually) and SW Motech in the early new year. I’ll then decide. 👍 Cheers for the comment! Have a good one Ric
try to make the bike lighter, don't add useless dead weight to it. for my previous bike (transalp 700) I bought the upper bars from touratech. they had 2 small tube extensions that were simply resting against the bike frame with some rubber spacers glued to the end (they were not fixed to the frame at that point with any screws, anything). at my nth crash one of these tubes deflected from the frame and punctured the radiator. 400 eur repair for a puncture created by upper bars and my offroad suckiness. fuck those bars. also, I crashed my ktm at least the same amount of times in offroad and the PP lower bars were more than enough, the tank has zero scratches.
Hiya Peter. Yeah mate that to be fair has always been my way. However There is more than enough power and torque on an already heavy bike. To start talking weight saving of a few kilos is neither here nor there. Its still gonna be fxkn heavy to lift either way regardless lol.... I am just in the mind set these days of trying stuff out. Hope that makes sense. CHeers Ric
Thank you Richard for your video. It's a great job. In my case, I have the Sw-motech engine protector installed and I want to protect the motorcycle with side protectors, I see that it is only compatible with those of the same brand Sw-motech and I cannot put others. The Sw-motech side guards protrude more outwards and are taller than the original KTM ones but they hold the same and don't fit the shape of the bike as well. Taking into account that Sw-motech does not manufacture superior supports, do you think that could be enough? Another option is to wait for the possible solution from Outback Motortek although that would surely force me to sell my current Sw-motech engine protector. I await opinion. Thanks. Attached link, (see 01:05 minute) czcams.com/video/KYPEcOwLz8k/video.html
Hello Cesar! Yes mate unfortunately I hear the same about SWMotech that you need the same brand to fit. I believe Outback are working on a solution So is just a waiting game for now. However I have now decided completely agains buying upper engine side bars. After dropping my bike twice I have learnt that the KTM engine bars are sufficient for minor drops. And to be be honest If the drop is more serious then I would probably sustain damage upper engine bars would make no difference anyway. I may change my mind but for now I’ll do without. Thank you for the video I have seen it. 👍 So just wait for outback I think if you want a full side protection. See what their offering is 👍 Thanks Ric
Hiya Ric! Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately I cannot completely confirm yet. So far for me the Touratech is my choice as its the only one I can keep frame guards and Spot lights (in original position). Also its not connected to the inner fairing plastics (like heed.. which I cant understand why they did this). I think the wisest thing to do is just wait and see what new offerings come out next year. from Outback Motortek and also I hear SW Motech also bringing something out in Jan22.... So now I may hold off on the Touratech and see in January what is good. Cheers Ric
Such a phenomenal bike… hopefully I’ll get one soon!
Good luck my friend! 👍
Video utile come senpre da un professionista. Io preferisco le Heed. Pezzo unico . Grazie ciao
obrigado meu amigo, muito obrigado pelo seu comentário
Hi, Rick,
Great insights as always! ✅
Thank you kindly mate! 🤝
Thank you Ricardo 👍
Hey Ozzy! No worries man,, glad to help and pleased it was useful!
Cheers
Ric
Tha besttt !!!!! Informations evarr keep it upp 🦁🦁💯💯💪💪
Thank you Kandahar. Cheers for watching 👍
Just discovered the channel recently you do great work. So I’m looking at outback crash bars and not sure about the fitment with the KTM auxiliary lights. Did you ever go that route?
Hello mate and thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated 🙏. Sadly the outback were not an offering at the time I had the SAS. Ended up not running uppers in the end. And after dropping my SAS off road a few times I learned the lowers did the job just fine.they stick out far enough that it’s most likely the hand guards and lower bars that get scuffed anyway. I never touched the main panels… and if a fall was that hard you did end up damaging the upper panels then you probably had more serious costs around the bike anyway. Just my thoughts of course.. also looks better without all the scaffold around the bike imo 👍
All the best
Ric
Wait for the SW-Motech, both lower and upper crash bars, they’re about to come out. I’ve had 4 1290 SAS since 2016 and believe me, I’ve tried all, and the very best is the combination of SW-Motech crashbars and Skidplate 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Hiya Ricardo! Thanks for the info and comment. yeah I hear already from Gassss!!! (comment below) explaining that SWMotech is bringing something out in Jan. Look forward to seeing their offering. I know of them well from my triumph 800XC ownership over the years! Great stuff too
cheers
Ric
Thanks Ricardo to open up this discussion, as u guys I own a KTM1299SAS. Honestly the foundational problem here is the bottom support of the lower crash bars in the base of the engine vs attach the bars in the chassis , I assume in order to not create bigger issues on the engine KTM came with this “deformable” bars…. the consequence is if u add extra bars on top make the thing unfeasible because the bottom bars are too flexible….this is the problem that Outback mentioned and I agree. Heed came with a “creative” solution but I agree with Ricardo that the superior support is not ok…… so I will wait for Outback proposal. No comments on Touratech joke
Hello Robert! Thanks mate for the message. And I agree the lower crash bars do move under strain. Not the best I have had in the past to be fair. I completely understand Outback Motortek problem when coming up with a solution. But maybe they should just keep quiet or say they are working on something that hopefully will be available soon. Instead of criticize other products but yet produce nothing... KTM lower bars are not the best but on a scale of 1-10 are probably within the 2-3 region? at least they do something.. HEED have come up with their own solution completely independent of KTM bars but also have their own compromises.. but at least these I guess are a 5-6 (just my opinion from observation) so do make a positive difference... Touratech again not the best "overall" design when using the KTM bars yet has to be of some benefit surely?.. maybe 2-3 but again still better than nothing with no compromise on other accessories.
yes I am keen to see Outback's offering also SW Motech so I hear in Jan22!!!
Cheers
Ric
I crashed off-road (15mph) and the oem lower bars worked great. scratched but straight and functional. I'm tired of waiting for outback motortek, so I just ordered the Touratech uppers. Curious to see how they do in the next wreck.
Hiya Jake. Thanks for dropping in! Agree the oem bars do the job just fine for these kinda of spills. See my vid on crash feedback. I never bothered with uppers ever since 👍
czcams.com/video/O7MqHEX2Qt4/video.html
Hey Ric, thanks for posting the vid, just my 2 bobs worth on the Heed bars...I think it would be a fairly straightforward task to fabricate a spacer or bracket to utilise the mounting points for both the Heed bars and the KTM aux lights... unless I'm missing something 😕
Hiya Andrew thanks for the comment and I agree I initially considered that myself. It seems an easy obvious option with very little work involved.
However after speaking to Heed and looking closer there are a couple of things that I am bothered about.
1. Why on earth has heed fixed the bars to plastic fairing panel. That bit where the Aux lights are is about 3mm plastic and makes no sense. It’s more of a risk imo of breaking more stuff
2. I want my frame protectors and don’t fancy cutting them up to accommodate the bars
3. I’ve also just learnt tonight they don’t fit the pp bash plate either. You’d need to cut out sections on either side to allow for the bars to fit.
4. Back to the Aux lights.. even if added spacers I’m concerned the from bumper of the heed design will affect light spread (but cannot be sure on that) I’d only know if I had a set of bars in person . It’s just not reassuring when heed themselves say no and should use their universal fitting kit.
So overall not really getting the vibes
😂👍
I think a part of “shifting” is overlooked here. When a rail shifts, it has absorbed the energie, so that energie is not forced into the frame or mountings. It is also a way of protecting. And I guess they see the plastic lower parts as “changeable” sins only the fuelcock is behind it with a lot of space. 🤔
Indeed this is the approach of KTM specially to protect the engine mounting. Not saying is bad, is a way to protect of course, but in my POV all aftermarket companies will struggle to create more robust crash bars without compromising the mounting areas…. I’m sure they will come with creative solutions like Heed guys ….. it will become very interesting next months. 😅
Minefield Rick! Are the bottom bars really that weak? Should I cancel my order for them and buy from somewhere else?
Hey up mate. To be honest they do move a little on a drop but I hear that’s all part of the design so stress is not transferee to parted where it’s attached like sump fixing. It’s one of those things. Some say they are fine with a drop and some say they are poor. The main topic here is that they are believed to be poor “for attaching” upper bars due to this design. That’s the main issue. But as a stand alone lower engine bar they should do the trick.
To be fair I like them and the style suits the bike. I don’t plan on dropping the bike anyway (none of us do) but if I do and the most I have to worry about it black lower trim then I’m ok with that. I don’t expect it to protect the upper plastics though as it’s “lower” bars.
Also I’m not sure if you did decide on other bars if you manage to find any…if they would be compatible with the oem bash plate hahaha … Always something!!
I hear the SW Motech bars require or most likely require their bash plate in order to fix their engine bars haha..
So your call.. 👍😂🤦♂️
Perfect video at the perfect time for me, I will compromise the frame protector rater than bike safety (touratech shifting bars) + 300£ for that is insane.
Thanks again for such an amazing video 🙏🏼
Hiya Kareem. Thanks for watching and commenting ! Great to hear the vid was useful. 👍
I saw a version from Motea. It looks to be mounted in the engine around the exhaust pipe. And just 1 bolt thru the lower crash bar.
Has anyone tested them or seen them live?
Hello Fredrik! Thanks for the helpful information. I can say that I have not seen these bars but will surely look into them! Thank you
Cheers
Ric
I received my bike on 24th November. Just had the 600 mile service done yesterday. Engine bars are due to arrive in May 22 ....
Hello Arnold! great to hear from you mate! And congrats on the new beast! I hope you enjoy it trouble free!! Sorry to hear about the waiting times on accessories (We all have experienced this) :(
Fingers crossed you may get them early.. just keep checking in with the dealer to see haha..
Thanks
Ric
Outback is super expensive over 700 euro just for upper and lower. than that prices vary within the EU, which is disgusting . Heed you can fix the ktm frame protectors slightly modified.
Hi Ric,
Time for a new video! Touratech now sales also the upper frame protector … fits the original OEM touratech crash bar
Hiya FV - Thanks bud for the heads up. I will have to check them out. 👍
olè Riccardo, but then what solution will you adopt? but is it worthwhile to mount these bars?
Hiya Ric! Apologies I did not see this last message from you!!! As for bars to mount. If I had to I would probably go with Touratech. None of the bars at the moment are perfected in my opinion. However you may not have seen my assessment on the KTM lower engine bars video? I dont think I will buy upper bars anymore. I am happy with the level of protection the stock bars provide.
Thanks
Ric
@@RicardoYeep Hi Ric, thank you for your reply, effeivamante, it would seem that the lower bars, we do their duty. even if they deform enough in the event of a collision. you are 7n big x your dedication to this channel
Now that Outback has their bars, what are your thoughts on those?
Hiya Ron. Good question and one that I anticipated at some point. Basically after nearly a year and half of owning the 1290 with KTM bars only (as on the R model) I found them to be more than sufficient to protect the bike.
I have dropped the bike on both sides and only ended up with scratches on the engine bars. They look great and suit the bike and do not hide the stunning look of the bike behind a horrible cage.
Initially I was keen to install full upper engine bars but after actually a tried and tested experience with my KTM ones I haven’t even bothered looking into adding uppers at more cost, more weight, and basically ruin the look.
Just my 2 cents but hey we are all different👍
Cheers
Ric
Bars should deform, because if they don't then the mounting points take the stress and break the lugs (or bend the bolts)- something has to adsorb the impact.If you have to spend another £300 replacing the OE bars then that will be cheaper than a side of KTM panels.
Hiya mate.. yeah agree just like a car bumper it needs to "absorb" the impact and not transfer it... I do like the OEM bars they suit the styling of the bike too.. And I have no issue with then making contact with the lower small black plastics under impact.. The Touratech ones look the best option to me so far however I may live to regret saying that... I may just wait now until January as I hear SW Motech are releasing something in early Jan22!
Cheers
Ric
Crash bars should be the 1st items to put on before you drive bike out of show room floor.(A grudge purchase for sure but..).Touratech always pricy but usually good quality.Thanks for the advice.
Hey Bruce! thanks for the feedback and comment mate. Am fully with you on that statement!
Cheers
Ric
Спасибо Рик! Это очень полезная информация к размышлению. Ты наш первопроходец ))
Привет, мой друг! Нет проблем, и спасибо, что сообщили мне, что нашли эту информацию полезной. Мне жаль, что здесь нет красивых игрушек, которые можно было бы показать в качестве реального примера, но я надеялся, что люди все равно найдут эту информацию полезной для себя перед покупкой!
Еще раз спасибо и будьте осторожны!
С уважением, Рик
I've been waiting months for KTMs engine bars, seriously considering canceling the order. I've also opted for every carbon fibre accessory including the fuel cell covers so the bars might hide my bling anyway
Hiya Paul! yeah man I know the feeling as I nearly did out of anger and frustration when I was waiting.... To be honest I don't have any gripes with the OEM lower bars. I like them and the styling really suits the bike. BUT the real test is seeing the bike after I have dropped it.
I think you will be ok with the Carbon bits still.. Its quite open anyway. (nice.. I considered getting some too)
Cheers
Ric
Hi Ric, just got the info from my touratech dealership. I've got my new black upper crashbar from touratech :D
Hey there Florin!! That’s excellent news! Let me know your thoughts and fitting once you have sorted it. Bee keen to hear your opinion albeit biased haha 😂
@@RicardoYeep hahah
I Hope it will fit without taking off the aux headlights
Yeah should be nowhere near the Aux from what I’ve seen 👍
@@RicardoYeep hi there. I’ve just had the touratech upper crashbar on my bike. I have some pics on the Facebook page KTM 1290 Super Advanture 2021. I am very pleased with the new look 😎
Ciao Ricardo, io ho montato la piastra para coppa della Sw Motech e con quella ho dovuto togliere le barre para motore originali ktm, credo che le uniche barre che si possono abbinare a questa piastra sono le Sw Motech.. che saranno disponibili dalla seconda settimana di gennaio… io valuterei quelle Sw fossi in te.. le Touratech sono inutili e in caso di caduta secondo me non contano nulla.
Ciao di nuovo amico mio! Buono a sentire le informazioni. sì, conosco SW Motech. Buona marca.
Anche se non sono entusiasta di spendere più soldi su un altro bash plate così presto. Ma sarei interessato a vedere la loro offerta a gennaio.
Se il suo grande poi forse avrei anche a scambiare bash plate troppo poi se questo significa barre di buon motore.
Saluti
Ric
I bought the tourtec bars, very happy with them, if you go on their website their priced at 280 euros, and I don't believe I paid for shipping either, didn't take them too long to get here in fact I think I was one of a handful to get them when they first released them so I had mine for a little while have to say no issues little tricky to fit but other than that really good product
Hiya Carl cheers mate for the good advice and info on the Touratech! I do like them to be fair and still might purchase a set. Not sure at the moment.
Cheers
Ric
Hi Carl, I'm currently considering them over the oem powerparts crashbars 61912068044C1. However since the Touratech calls them extension crash bar I'm not sure if they can be mounted directly on the frame or do they need the original crash bar to be mounted on ? Thank you for your reply
@@tayebhaloui top bars are connected to the lower bars via four brackets so no they're not connected to the main frame of the bike, however once connected to the lower bars they are extremely sturdy,
@@RicardoYeep I'll put some pictures of things that are physically done with the crash bars I have now added some Denali spotlights, Which look quite good
I've already purchased Heed ones. I will make You some photo of mounting points, because I have a plan not to use this controversial upper mounting points, so maybe it will be possible to mount KTM spot lights with Heed bars. Will see.
Hiya Kangur! Good man yes I was thinking it could work. I mean those poor controversial fixing points on the fairing panels offer zero structural gains. So seems pointless to have them there. I would be interested to see why HEED decided to do this. Anyway if you can cut these off you should be able to keep the OEM Spot lights. BUT I am not sure still if the bumper frame of the HEED bars at the very front will cause blockage of some of the lights due to its position?
Cheers
Ric
@@RicardoYeep there is a bigger problem with this crashbars, not only fixing the auxiliary lights. They won't fit with aluminium bash plate without cutting. Sending You a link for Google drive with some photos: drive.google.com/folderview?id=1Yl_dhrexzqzZpbfKjOHp0ZaWqTpkUvS2
Thanks mate I know I’ve seen it just after I posted the vid lol… 👍
Hi @Kangur Kolczaste Serce , we're you able to mount the bars without using the upper mounting points? Any problems or loss of strength? Cheers
@@luxybob hi, I've tried not to mount this upper fixings, but there are some vibrations on upper parts of crash bars, so I've used all fixing points, as manual sais. It seems that this upper mounting points are only for canceling this vibrations, there are metal-rubber mounting elements used for fixing the bars.
With all that extra weight, you need a decat 👍🏻🤣
HAHAHAHAHA hey up mate back again are we on that same subject LOL.... :)
Just ordered some motoguard full set £217
Hi Adam that’s not a bad deal! Nice one. Hope they are a good fit and you are pleased with them. I am still waiting on the offering from outback motortek (eventually) and SW Motech in the early new year. I’ll then decide. 👍
Cheers for the comment!
Have a good one
Ric
try to make the bike lighter, don't add useless dead weight to it. for my previous bike (transalp 700) I bought the upper bars from touratech. they had 2 small tube extensions that were simply resting against the bike frame with some rubber spacers glued to the end (they were not fixed to the frame at that point with any screws, anything). at my nth crash one of these tubes deflected from the frame and punctured the radiator. 400 eur repair for a puncture created by upper bars and my offroad suckiness. fuck those bars.
also, I crashed my ktm at least the same amount of times in offroad and the PP lower bars were more than enough, the tank has zero scratches.
Hiya Peter. Yeah mate that to be fair has always been my way. However There is more than enough power and torque on an already heavy bike. To start talking weight saving of a few kilos is neither here nor there. Its still gonna be fxkn heavy to lift either way regardless lol.... I am just in the mind set these days of trying stuff out. Hope that makes sense.
CHeers
Ric
Thank you Richard for your video. It's a great job. In my case, I have the Sw-motech engine protector installed and I want to protect the motorcycle with side protectors, I see that it is only compatible with those of the same brand Sw-motech and I cannot put others. The Sw-motech side guards protrude more outwards and are taller than the original KTM ones but they hold the same and don't fit the shape of the bike as well. Taking into account that Sw-motech does not manufacture superior supports, do you think that could be enough? Another option is to wait for the possible solution from Outback Motortek although that would surely force me to sell my current Sw-motech engine protector. I await opinion. Thanks. Attached link, (see 01:05 minute) czcams.com/video/KYPEcOwLz8k/video.html
Hello Cesar! Yes mate unfortunately I hear the same about SWMotech that you need the same brand to fit. I believe Outback are working on a solution So is just a waiting game for now. However I have now decided completely agains buying upper engine side bars. After dropping my bike twice I have learnt that the KTM engine bars are sufficient for minor drops. And to be be honest If the drop is more serious then I would probably sustain damage upper engine bars would make no difference anyway. I may change my mind but for now I’ll do without.
Thank you for the video I have seen it. 👍
So just wait for outback I think if you want a full side protection. See what their offering is 👍
Thanks
Ric
olè Riccardo, but then what solution will you adopt? but is it worthwhile to mount these bars?
Hiya Ric! Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately I cannot completely confirm yet. So far for me the Touratech is my choice as its the only one I can keep frame guards and Spot lights (in original position). Also its not connected to the inner fairing plastics (like heed.. which I cant understand why they did this).
I think the wisest thing to do is just wait and see what new offerings come out next year. from Outback Motortek and also I hear SW Motech also bringing something out in Jan22....
So now I may hold off on the Touratech and see in January what is good.
Cheers
Ric
@@RicardoYeep I also think like you, right now and best, wait
@@ric.m Yes mate it wont be long now in the grand scheme of things. Something else will come up to look at I think.
Cheers
Ric