Why Oliver Glasner's Success At Palace Is Much More Than "New Manager Bounce"
Vložit
- čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
- The last six Premier League fixtures for Crystal Palace have brought five wins and one draw with 16 goals scored and just four conceded but with plenty of neutrals having seen the Eagles' late season form and attributed it simply to "new manager bounce" given the presence of Oliver Glasner in the Selhurst Park dugout, the truth actually hints at a far more solid foundation for success having been laid since he first took over back in February of 2024.
I appreciate that, for the most part, this channel tends to steer clear of my passion for Palace but with the club having been so heavily involved in the news cycle over the last couple of weeks, I just felt it was right to give my take on the view that this is nothing more than an isolated purple patch of form which will vanish heading into next season.
Hopefully you've enjoyed it, if you have or indeed if you haven't please do consider letting me know your thought in the comments section below.
Cheers,
Dan
Follow me on Twitter: HLTCO
Listen to my daily Palace or General Football Podcasts on Patreon: www.patreon.com/HLTCO
Follow me on TikTok: www.tiktok.com/hltcopod
Frankfurt Fan here who started following Crystal Palace casually since Glasner became your manager. Found you on my way of searching for Palace fan voices and I'm absolutely delighted for all the fans. He may not have been the easiest to work with behind the scenes but he's a brilliant manager and I hope you guys can keep some of that exciting young talent in the squad. Unreal potential. Keep up the great videos!
Thanks so much, I’d love to have you on for a chat about him at some point potentially?
Thank you OG as done fantastic sense he been ere he brought glad all over back I love this club for over 50 years you take care mate and your football club 👍👍❤️🦅💙
Nice man
Thanks for the comments my friend......enjoy goodluck to frankfurt too😂
I think you are the eagles too?
Nailed it Dan.......... I've been following Palace for over 40 years and it is fair to say much of our fanbase are realistic not pessimistic. Whisper it quietly but this could be a very special period for the club. I can only think of a few times the football has been as/more enjoyable for differing reasons. Not only has Glasner transformed the players but also the mentality of the fans.
- 90/91 season, we were direct, team built on strength power and pace and finished 3rd whilst winning the prestigious ZDS 😉🙃under Sir Steve.
- Championship winning team 93/94 where we bulldozed teams to win the league.
- 96/97 Autumn under Harry Bassett we were unreal, we scored goals for fun (won 6-1 two weeks on the trot) before Harry departed for Forest in the Spring.
- 03/04 Dowie came in and transformed the team. Perhaps fortuitous in certain aspects we went from the lower reaches to squeezing into the play offs before beating Sunderland & West Ham to secure promotion. A surreal turn around.
- 12/13 Freedman 8 game return was unreal. Previous season we'd been quite dour and club looked to consolidate itself in the Championship. Emergence of Zaha, recruitment with likes of Yala and Murray we became a great watch before Dougie jumped ship to Bolton.
- 13/14 After Holloways departure in October many of us just wanted to see the club be competitive in the top flight. Pulis came in and not only made us structured and disciplined but we became tough to beat and ended the season with 5 wins on the bounce and what looked like relegation 6 months earlier we finished 11th.
Keep on with the YT content particularly for those who no longer use twitter 😃
What a fantastic reply that is, superb insight. Thanks so much for watching.
40 years also ... I agree with everything you've said ❤️🦅💙
Glasner is a great trainer, i am a huge fan of Frankfurt , and honestly , i already miss him. He stands.for aggressive straight forward gameplay which matched the mentality of Frankfurt so well. He has got the ability to make Players better to a point they are overperforming. He is also capable of implementing young players.
Do you expect this to carry on performance wise through the entirety of his tenure?
Palace have real potential as a club with this guy in charge. Such a talented coach and it’s no surprise Bayern had him on their radar.
I completely agree. It’s been an incredible shift in fortunes.
Spot on Sir. Palace fan here of over 50 years, and the style of play now comes over as not aggressive, but forward thinking. It seems the overall completed passes and wing work have improved immensely. At the same time defensively we seem tougher than ever to break open. Hopefully Hughes will be recovered next season, however with Doucoure available and in partnership with Wharton, this is something to look forward to. I am of the view that despite all the media talk, Olise and Eze could both stay, as they recognise their special partnership and the chance it gives them to achieve Champions League status next season where they are. People have short memories; remember the hype when Zaha moved to Man U?
Agree with everything you’ve said here. It’s an incredible time.
Thanks Dan, I really enjoyed this video. As a Palace fan living in the States the first thing I do when I wake up is listen to your pod, so to see you and have a slightly longer version is a treat. It's crazy but the incredible coverage of the Prem in the U.S. means that I have been able to watch live every single minute of every single game and can happily concur with everything you have said.
I really appreciate your work. Thank you!
That’s such a lovely comment Phil, thanks from the bottom of my heart.
Excellent video. I had the pleasure of watching a Palace training session on my birthday (10 April) at Selhurst Park. The session was in the week before the away game at Liverpool. I watched how the session was structured from a coaching point of view, how players interacted with each other and how the coaches and Glasner interacted with the players. Players like Jairo Riedewald that had been frozen out of the starting eleven under Hodgson, were playing a pivotal roll in the session. It was fascinating to see everything from that training session translated into the Liverpool match. This is definitely not a new manager bounce.
The Newcastle game was the one that convinced me something special had started. The most complete overall performance I’ve ever seen and I’ve been a fan since Don Rogers joined in 1972. Great vid
I feel exactly the same, albeit I’ve not been going anywhere near as long. It blew me away.
The point you made, about Glasner's impact not quite being new manager bounce, was an excellent one. As a Crystal Palace fan, I felt that the early performnaces we're getting better by the game and the winning streak was not quite a surprise.
Great explainer Dan. I agree with you and I have been going Palace for over 50 years. We have a clear tactical philosophy under Glasner which is progressive and is very adaptable. I will never under estimate what previous managers have done to secure our Premiership status, Glasner is a different level though and what I fear more is can the club meet his expectations.
I’ve honestly not heard a single Palace fan say anything else; it’s unheard of.
Thank you, Dan. It's been so frustrating to see Palace's form dismissed, especially here in some areas of the U.S. sports media. Glasner has this team humming after implementing in record time durable ideas and patterns of play. It's genuinely amazing and I'm loving every second of it.
I would normally say “Let’s not worry what everyone else thinks” but it’s become the overarching narrative and it’s just clearly wrong. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment.
Can always find my man Timbo talking sense on a palace vid.
Ive noticed this as a neutral, the media bang on about eze and olise as if theyre a 2 man team. Palace have looked extremely good under glasner and next season could emulate the form of teams like Brighton (sorry to name drop them 😂) and west ham over the past couple of years (European football combined with decent premier league finishes).
Love the content, even as a Hull fan it's always a great watch.
❤
It’s absolutely the case but MSM love to crystallise things into digestible chunks, it’s infuriating.
Thank you so much, this was excellent. I’ve been a Palace fan since the 1967/68 season, when my Dad first took me. I feel so excited about the future. It’s reminding me of the 1990-91 season. I had the newspaper cutout of us finishing 3rd in the old First Division (pre-Premier League) on my wall until it disintegrated. It’ll be an anxious summer, as we wait to see who comes and goes, but I can’t wait for the 2024-25 season.
My pleasure, I just hope we get another full season of this, it has the potential to completely shift the mindset of the club in terms of our base.
I think the only "bounce" Glasner has had has been on the fan base. The atmosphere at games and mood of the fan base has been completely transformed. And that was pretty much immediate.
As you say any bounce in terms of the team is more like a transformation of playing style, fitness and mindset among the squad. Long may it continue.
Absolutely. It’s night and day from the turn of the year. Quite miraculous really.
Really good review. I said a few weeks ago on a fan site my biggest concern is keeping Glasner and his team. I generally wouldn’t rule out a top 6 finish next season and that includes a 4th place finish. That is based on Glasners mindset, the jan arrival of Wharton and Munoz. Mateta comments about texting the coaching staff. Lots of little details to read into as well as observing player body language on and off the field. You can see the hunger to grow and I feel we suddenly have the perfect combination. The key now is can we keep the team together for one season, perhaps sadly selling Guehi to fund improvements. Franca and Dacoure can both develop in this style. Most exciting period for the club. Tip of the iceberg would be main stand development commencing
I think every Palace fan is on exactly the same page with this, which is the only time I can ever remember it being the case. We can all see it. Usually, there’s at least a little bit of debate. Thanks so much for commenting. 🫡
Love to see it. Excellent quality of video, I am so pleased to see you making such good content, been a long term fan of the Palace + General football podcasts.
Thanks so much, Sam. That means a hell of a lot.
Good to see you back, Dan ❤️💙🦅
Thanks mate. ❤️
Thanks mate. ❤️
Nice one Dan. Very interesting comments of yours. My concern is come the new season and all the other managers wise up to Glasner's tactics... time will tell I suppose. All the best mateyboy 👍
If he continues to get results with more familiarity from opponents, I’ll be convinced he’s the greatest manager we’ve ever had.
Love this video Dan, Glasner has been some coup for you. Would like to see you upload more on this channel
Thanks so much mate, my plan is to do two a week from now until the day I die. Probably on a Tuesday and a Friday from next week.
top quality video. guy clearly understands football with a bottom up perspective. no bias, no nonsense and great football vocabulary. really helps change the narrative about youtubers and the common football fan. we should all listen and demand this quality of football analysis
That’s so, so kind of you. Thanks ❤️
I've never been so confident going into games that we are going to win. It doesn't seem real.
I’m exactly the same. It feels totally alien.
This is the type of interesting content Sky should be doing rather than just concentrating on their beloved top 6.
That’s extremely kind of you Rachael. Thanks so much.
Great video! Really enjoyed watching Palace since Glasner took over love his style of play and they're playing brilliant football!
Thanks so much, we really are playing well. Hopefully it continues.
Since we went up I've felt we can beat anyone on our day, but I've never seen us completely outclass teams the way we have been. If everyone buys into it, we could be in for a pretty mad season.
This is 100% it. We’ve always got it in us but it’s always felt like pushing water up a hill. This last month, we’ve schooled sides.
Hope he can keep this squad together for a while longer, or maybe he has better plans????😮 Great times lay ahead for Palace fans!!!! …… what could go wrong???🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I think Olise and Guehi are the most likely to go but aside from that, the rest will stay. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
As a non Palace fan, I really hope you keep Eze, Olise and Wharton (unless you wanna sell them to Arsenal 😅) with those 3 I think you have a platform for a really good season
Cheers mate, I can only see Olise going out of those three this summer.
This is a team now we are looking at and watching not just relying on zaha ... playing to zaha ... its now a completely different side we now have under glasner ... lets go ... next season is ours ... roller-coaster supporting palace ❤️🦅💙
Quality video as always Dan!
Hero. Thank you. ❤️
Great video!
Efficiency + Intensity = Glasnerball ♥️💙🦅
Absolutely. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. ❤️
I was waiting for this video, your analysis & commentary is always top notch
That’s extremely kind of you. I’m hoping to be far more regular on CZcams from now on.
I've really enjoyed Palace at the second half of the season, some really attractive football and players seemingly performing as they should. Mateta, Eze and Olise are a mega trio to have. What I also enjoy, as a villa fan, is that with some different names, this could be a video about Emery and Villa. I honestly think that, depending on summer business, Palace are European contenders for next season. Chelsea, Brighton, Man U and West Ham still continue to be in flux makes for a great opportunity.
What I find really exciting is Villas progress, obviously, under Emery. But then seeing Palace progress properly under Glasner and also Bournemouth under Iraola also looking progressively strong; it seems like clubs around the mid table are making properly considered leadership choices and seeing the rewards of progress on the pitch, individual improvements through proper coaching and limited transfer investment. This seems like it could be some sustainable disruption to the leagues structure and I would love to see it develop further.
First time viewer and I've been palace for 40+ years, i hit sub after 5 seconds 😂 Up The Palace
Haha! Love that. Thanks for commenting. Really glad you enjoyed it.
Nice piece of analysis from a life long Palace fan !
Thanks so much Michael. Top man. ❤️
Excellent work Dan! And let's not forget Franca.....
Thanks so much mate ❤️
Great video Dan. Looking forward to party Sunday and hoping it isn’t a farewell to this wonderful experience. Up the Palace. 👍🤞
Some party it was. Hopefully this is just the start.
Dan, gr8 video , enjoyed it very much. I've been a Palace fan since the 70s.
I agree, it's not a "bounce" , as it's taken time for Glasners work to come thru ...
The new manager and his staff have focused on getting the players fitter as he said to quote "you need to train not for games over a 90mins but 100mins" . You can see the contrast in managing the whole squad regarding the contrast in tactics, which is factual, not disrespectful...
I'm waiting to see if Glasner can convince the players like Eze and Olise to stay, nothing is written in stone , we just have to wait and see.
Wharton is improving every game. Everyone in the squad has improved in every way.
Glasner when he first took over, the team was lacking fitness, and we had a lot of key injuries, the change has been steady progress, we've got players back now, which were ruled out of contention by the previous manager back on the bench.
Yes Dan, I agree the training camp away , and the interval , was a great help.
When previous managers have taken over like Tony Pulis, Big Sam, it took time for their way to get results...
I'm happy for all the fans seeing proactive football which most of us knew the potential was there , but needed the right person to come in and Glasner and his staff are doing a fantastic job with the team as a whole....
I listen at home on the radio , due to health issues, highlights I've seen on Motd... we're all looking forward to games now positively, whereas before it was different, no disrespect there.
Thanks Dan , keep up the good work m8!
Thanks so much for such a detailed reply. I just hope the trajectory continues for another 12 months at least.
@HLTCOMEDIA thank you for replying Dan , vm appreciated
You cant get a more fanatical Eagles fan than me but hearing you say that Ghehi and Olise going but we are going to be better,i feel you are on cloud cuckoo land.We can just about afford Ghehi to go and i say that with a heavy heart because no true fan wants him to go but since he doesn't want to be at Palace anymore,hence the non signing of contract,he has to go.No player is bigger than the club.Touch that front three and it all goes to pieces.You sell Aywe,Ward,Clyne,Schlupp.That's over 250,00 a week you are saving.You give more money to Olise,Eze,Wharton and others.You bring forward Franca,JRS and the new signing and you have a massive go at getting as high as you can in the Premiership for one more season with those top players.If we get into Europe,maybe they will stay and give us another season.Selling Olise would be the biggest mistake ever.That famous front three will be gone and i am not sure it would work as good without him.We must not sell anyone else other than the old worriers and Ghehi.Parish and the rest will have to keep that squad together or else we will still be a team fighting relegation and hoping to finish around 14th.
Agree with all this. For me when we conceded the 4th to City, we then started pressing properly for the last 20 minutes of that game with no fear, and had some success pegging them into their own half. I think maybe that gave the players real belief to fully get on board, and then Liverpool and especially the first half against Newcastle for me, was outstanding.
I wholeheartedly agree, it was as if the players realised there was no reason to be scared. I’ve never seen us play with this level of consistency.
Also dougie Freedman, wilth ole make the superb rewards
Great video mate!!
Top man, Patrick. Thank you. ❤️
Glad you're back making videos mate
Really appreciate that, Ben. Top man.
Could not agree more!! Excellent analysis!
Lets hope Parish & co back him in summer & we keep hold of key players 🤞🏻
I think there will be a proper effort to keep the nucleus together and spend the money that comes in from 1-2 sales.
Well said Dan. 👍 Next year is gonna be exciting
I keep on thinking I should temper myself but it feels so solid. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment. 🫡
Spot on analysis there. Have subscribed. Incredible times for us at the moment, but i do fear we will be 'pillaged' in the summer with the big clubs circling over us for the likes of Eze, Olise , wharton etc..😢
Great to know you enjoyed it, Dave. I honestly think Olise and Guehi are the only two who are likely to leave.
Great video Dan
It’s a solid analysis mate - he clearly knows what he’s doing and is getting them to play for him. As you point out, it took a few games so the bounce idea is dead wrong. Obviously the big question is can you keep it all together when ‘bigger’ clubs decide to cherry pick. Even if you do lose players, it’ll be for good money and the manager will know others he can trust and adapt. Get carried away pal… the future is bright 👍
Thanks so much Steve. 🫡
Slight mistake, Dan. Roy had used 5 at the back once- against Man City for the 2-2 draw earlier this season. In fact Paddy said that they had been preparing to use the 5 at the back system while Roy was taking training so thats why they stuck with it while OG was watching on.
It must be said that having both Eze & Olise fit together for more than a game or two obviously helps as well. 🦅🦅
Absolutely, I will say that almost every player has improved alongside them though.
@@HLTCOMEDIA just goes to show what a bit of confidence can do to lift the whole team.
Well articulated Dan 👌 COYP 🔴🔵🦅
Thanks so much. Glad you think so.
Great video, mate!
Thanks so much, very kind of you. 🫡
I agree I think initially our performances were actually below the performances you could expect from a Roy team the game against Luton was bitterly disappointing- the game against city was the game changer it was a side that were energised clearly playing to win against the best team in the world-the six win finish was a total surprise but there was nothing lucky about it sides couldn’t cope with the intensity of our play
I never thought this was a new manager bounce. The 3 week break was probably a blessing
It absolutely was, allowed the tactically ideology to sink in fully.
With such confidence going into the next season we might secure a top finish
I see no reason why we couldn’t and shouldn’t.
Haven't been so proud and excited to be a palace fan since 1991
Having had a ST since 2002 I’ve never felt like this. It’s mad.
As a palace fan. It hurts that we will lose him next season, he has changed us a lot. Hopefully we can find another manager to replace him that is good enough to keep us up.
Enjoy the ride and keep hope is all I could say. You never know…
*Commenting before watching whole video. Do you know what I think people are worried because of the positivity when Patrick came in and we was playing superb stuff aswell but I must admit I’m a bit worried that it’s a bounce 🤣 However he’s a much better coach than PV Cv wise I am Excited. Even if Olise and Guehi go if we can reinvest that money wisely it can start a proper rebuild and be a blessing in disguise. Keep up the good work matey ❤️💙
You’ve pretty much nailed the video before watching Jack. Hope you enjoyed it.
@@HLTCOMEDIA 100 percent did mate really well spoken
Quality this mate 👍🏻
That’s extremely kind of you. ❤️
Unfortunately no one even mentions Palace. The only mentions of Palace is when they mention that Olise, Eze, and Guehi are too good to play at Palace. It’s frustrating at times, just hope that Palace is prepared to replace these guys. My fear is that their sale will fund new stand not be reinvested in the squad.
The money for the new stand is already ring-fenced, there won’t be any resting on laurels given the manager, he will have had assurances, I’m sure.
Great video, up the Eagles!
Eze and Olise would be insane to leave. Glasner’s system is perfect for them to become big stars.
Here’s hoping 🤞
Interesting stuff thanks
My pleasure. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment.
If they can keep that team together and add a few will have a shot at Europe next season problem is the big boys will come calling
I think Olise and Guehi are likely to go. The rest, I think, will stay and the money from those two sales will be largely reinvested. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment. ❤️
@HLTCOMEDIA watched them turn my team over comfortably newcastle thought there's a few of these players I would like to join the toon
great video
Thanks so much. Really glad you enjoyed it.
Up the mighty palace, can't wait for next season, I'm resigned to the fact thst Guehi will go but if Eze and Olise both stay then we could legit play Europe.
With a fit Doucoure is it just as simple as him coming in for Hughes ? Hughes has been great but Doucoure and Wharton could form a top midfield duo, also Lerma could well slot into cb.
I think Doucoure and Wharton together could be practically unstoppable. I’d imagine Olise and Guehi may go but the money from them would be well in excess of £100m, invest 60-70% of that and we’d be laughing.
Look at the end of last season once safe we played attacking and great football when he came we were nearly safe same thing let's see when given no money and players sold
Keep our squad together ... let Jario . Tomkins . Holding . Eduarde go ... bring in a striker and who knows what we can achieve ... ❤️🦅💙
I think Guehi is almost certainly off too but the rest could well stay together for another season.
If what I read this morning 3rd June, re Sir Alex of Man Utd in talks with Dougie Freedman on the possibility on the selling of Marc Guehi, Eberechi Eze and Michael Olise, 22, this summer, as a Palace fan we can forget all the current hype and excitement for next season because if this selling goes ahead that the heart of the team gone and if I were Mr Glasner I would say he was taken on under false pretences, and not to mention the interest that Wharton is generating, Palace is a supply club to the high and mighty because money talks.
Roy had eze and olise injured for big chunks of this season. This managers had them back almost straight away, that's the main reason for your form.
If you honestly believe Hodgson would have had us doing this, I can’t help you.
Dan more CZcams please.
That’s the aim now I’m in an actual office. 🫡
I think if we can keep Olise , Eze and Mateta then yes I can see a promising run next season possibly.
If you break that front three I 'm not so sure.
Yeah, I totally understand that perspective. I think there’s a chance, albeit very slim, that Guehi is the only one to go.
@@HLTCOMEDIA And maybe Eduoard I was hearing to but hey ho I personally strongly think we should keep bulk of our main players next season if we want to try and challenge for a much higher place in.the table..
I wonder if he may be Dougie's best signing?
There’s plenty to choose from. 😉
And when Oliseh and Eze likely leave this summer?
My comment isn’t meant to be dismissive of what you’ve said. I agree that Crystal Palace have been excellent lately and it’s good to see you do well. But my question does speak to the concern for you if you do lose two star performers. Maybe Glasner simply brings in two replacements and continues as before, it will be interesting to see.
Olise will stay at Selhurst. He called me yesterday.
Good to know 😂
Bayern are wicked
sorry to say, but Glasner probably won't stay long at the club. Normally it doesn't take long, till the sharks are coming, snatching him away, as any of the good players. Bayern already tried it, Reality in the football market nowadays. Sadly
We just have to enjoy the ride. That’s the way of the world. Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment.
I do enjoy your analysis Dan, thanks for putting this out there. Also a long time Palace fan of over 40 years and echo the comment from @jejh-mk9mr.
That’s extremely heartening to read, Mark. Thanks so much.