RUSTY SCRAPYARD MOWER - Will it Run?

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  • čas přidán 17. 10. 2020
  • This ride on lawn mower is rusty and rotten. It has been left in an open fronted shed for decades. The engine won't turn over and the whole thing looks like it's ready to be scrapped. Will it run?
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  • @myquartknee
    @myquartknee Před 2 lety +62

    Your narrated videos are brilliant. It is wonderful to hear what is going on in the mind of a dedicated engine restoration expert.

  • @johnbradford9235
    @johnbradford9235 Před 3 lety +9

    Dude. I'm so totally not into gardening or lawns in any way whatsoever, but I do love it when people restore or re-use things that can be saved, especially in this disposable society we seem to exist in. I also thoroughly enjoy watching someone with real knowledge and skill do their thing. You are convincingly competent, cool, calm and a joy to listen to. Thank you and keep 'em coming 👍. My two penn'orth - I would replace that drive belt, sort the charging, maybe repair the rot-spots, and then totally leave that glorious machine ratted up 😁. Just rub it down a bit as is and clear coat it. Wasteland ride-on 😁 👉👉👉. 😎

  • @ckmbyrnes
    @ckmbyrnes Před 3 lety +8

    I prefer the narrated version. With other, non-narrated videos, it seems like I am always trying to guess what they are doing. I watch these for the tutorial as well as entertainment value so I like to know what someone is doing and why.
    On a side note, I clicked on this video totally by chance and immediately recognized the voice from one of my favorite simulated farming related channels. When I double checked to see if I was right, it turns out I had watched your restoration videos before but did not recognize you because it was one of your non-narrated versions. You produce some very good, entertaining videos. Thank you!

  • @Retro_Spectrum97
    @Retro_Spectrum97 Před 3 lety +2

    This is awesome.. i love seeing old machines run again... i restored an old gas pump thst had been sitting in my backyard for 50 years.. i just got it working back in April...

  • @lawrencecarroll2031
    @lawrencecarroll2031 Před 3 lety +19

    I like all your videos, narrated and silent. Keep them coming!! I had an old 8 hp Briggs, flat head. Couldn't get the flywheel screen off so just cut a round hole in it and then spun started it with my half inch drill by squirting a little gas into the spark plug hole BEFORE doing a bunch else to it!

  • @eventhorizon1855
    @eventhorizon1855 Před 3 lety +25

    There's always a high degree of personal satisfaction when resurrecting an old neglected piece of machinery like this, no matter how many different times you've done it, you inspire people to want to give it a try themselves, congrats on getting it to work, makes more sense to reuse it rather than scrap it 👍

  • @synth6754
    @synth6754 Před 3 lety +37

    i wasnt expecting you to talk during the restoration, but i love it.

  • @roscoe454
    @roscoe454 Před 3 lety +3

    thankyou for giving good lighting and clear details on your work, and its a nice thing to hear you tinkering and speaking of what your doing or working on. thank you very much for your good work :)

  • @dr.skipkazarian5556
    @dr.skipkazarian5556 Před 3 lety +118

    I will never understand how some people can leave a perfectly good piece of machinery out to be ruined by the elements...rust weld and glue weld....two new terms for my vocabulary! Excellent work and the narrative does provide context, detail, and a much needed human element of understanding as well as a priori reasoning. Be well and stay healthy.

    • @TF856
      @TF856 Před 3 lety +3

      I've got that beat. My older brother left many hundreds of family photographs and slides out in the weather to be ruined. The whole photographic record of our youth is gone forever.

    • @dr.skipkazarian5556
      @dr.skipkazarian5556 Před 3 lety +3

      @@TF856 Keep them in your memory, your heart, and in your family....no one can take that away from you....best wishes and stay healthy.

    • @brahmdevchourasiya1188
      @brahmdevchourasiya1188 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TF856 BBC

  • @Hugebach
    @Hugebach Před 3 lety +15

    Love your videos dag, you give me courage to repair my own rust buckets

  • @qtquick
    @qtquick Před 3 lety +16

    It amazes me that I could sit through the entire video swearing to myself that I could move on at any second. You are a master at what you're doing and the way you do it. The work is very good as well.

  • @Carter_Bourne
    @Carter_Bourne Před 2 lety

    Bro your voice is so chill I’ve watched so many videos of just utter silence which is welcomed but this is a nice change

  • @bukkwilldd313
    @bukkwilldd313 Před 3 lety +38

    That mower is almost exactly like the one my father mowed with for years, including the rust. The decal said "Murray 8", but it's the same mower. We used it in our lawn care business with the original engine, but we switched that for a 12 HP Briggs. It got new deck bearings, and it's blades ran as smooth as I've ever seen. We never painted it, and I always thought it was funny that a mower that looked that rough could do so good of a job.

    • @retro8696
      @retro8696 Před 3 lety +1

      My dad used Murray 8s for years and never had many issues with them.

    • @PapiDoesIt
      @PapiDoesIt Před 3 lety +1

      @@retro8696 My grandfather had 2 of them on his farm. One of my brothers still has them. Tough machines.

    • @richardcline1337
      @richardcline1337 Před 3 lety

      Bukk Willdd
      , the biggest problem with these machines is that the steering eventually gets really bad and the machines tend to wander all over the place. I have an old MTD with the two cylinder Tecumseh engine that works great but nobody will work on it. I did replace the bushings and that helped a bit but it will still give your arms a workout on a yard as large as mine. I bought a new Craftsman which is a 42" cut just like the MTD and even though there are many years difference in their ages and body design, underneath they are basically the same mower.

    • @user-hp3wy3zb5f
      @user-hp3wy3zb5f Před 2 lety

      Гпщиз

    • @rameshdhule6013
      @rameshdhule6013 Před 2 lety

      .

  • @0bieWan
    @0bieWan Před 3 lety +14

    Watching now and so far amazing video dag!
    Finished and glad it came together pretty simple. The cross hatching looked really good also

  • @jason0870
    @jason0870 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm one of the group who enjoys your video narration style of video production.

  • @jsb1945
    @jsb1945 Před 3 lety +2

    Right now, I’m inspired.
    Next I’m gonna take my old destroyed lawnmower and my tools to restore it.
    Great video man, keep it up!!

  • @CrazyMooseManor
    @CrazyMooseManor Před 3 lety +5

    My parents bought me the Murry edition back in mid 80s to cut the grass. Brings back some good memories.

  • @listerlives1
    @listerlives1 Před 3 lety +17

    Great format for your videos. I love these so much. Just really talented mechanic work every time. Funny, but you've taught many of us so much. I've fixed a couple lawnmowers just using the knowledge you share. Thanks for the videos and the help over the years of watching your channel.

  • @richards5843
    @richards5843 Před 3 lety

    This is an exact copy of the U.S. version of the Murray Mower.. Great Video!!

  • @ducttapenzipties
    @ducttapenzipties Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. Most people would haul a mower like that straight to the dump. Glad to see it saved

  • @bobdtaylor1989
    @bobdtaylor1989 Před 3 lety +8

    I love your commentated and silent videos equally; they're just different types of video. The restoration vids are soothing and entertaining to watch, but the narration like this is fascinsting, explaining what it is I'm seeing! Feel like I've learned a lot

  • @bud467
    @bud467 Před 3 lety +5

    I watch these at work when I'm feeling overwhelmed. Thank you for making these, they really are calming! Also helping calm my butterflies of getting married in 3 days.

    • @lefstad8700
      @lefstad8700 Před 3 lety +2

      Did u have a good time?

    • @bud467
      @bud467 Před 3 lety

      @@lefstad8700 I did! It was fantastic and she was beautiful!

    • @demoknight4822
      @demoknight4822 Před 2 lety

      @@bud467 im glad it was fun!
      are you 2 still together?

    • @Bhavyav227
      @Bhavyav227 Před 2 lety

      Rj4ecm in

  • @theobillings8930
    @theobillings8930 Před rokem

    We had one of these when I was a teenager (quite a while ago) helping out at the rv park my family had. First time seeing one since, thanks for bringing back the memory.

  • @sirkelly55
    @sirkelly55 Před 3 lety +18

    Wow, this is an awesome project! Love the old mower, it would be amazing to see it restored to like-new! And narrated is way more interesting!

  • @DicksSmallEngines
    @DicksSmallEngines Před 3 lety +4

    Fantastic work getting the engine turning over & machine up & running sir. Brilliant content also. Superb ! 👏🏻👍🏻

  • @baxterboy23
    @baxterboy23 Před 3 lety +19

    Personally I prefer the voice over/narration.. Because otherwise I wouldn't have a ####### clue what was going on.. 😬😬

  • @CB71SS
    @CB71SS Před 3 lety +2

    I have a similar type and been having a problem getting the throttle linkage right but looking at yours I may have the solution. Glad to see it wasn't trashed. Great video.

  • @user-tq1bs2fj9h
    @user-tq1bs2fj9h Před rokem +2

    How could someone just abandon a mower like that? So sad

  • @johnthomson6833
    @johnthomson6833 Před 3 lety +3

    A perfect video of restoration. I like the narration as you get more information. Although it's not a Westwood, it's helped me to restore mine. (I have 9.)

  • @trancethan
    @trancethan Před 3 lety +8

    Narrated most definitely preferred. This is the first one I’ve seen with you talking. Would much rather you explaining it. Really enjoyed it. Thank you.

  • @ismaelravenlock6792
    @ismaelravenlock6792 Před 2 lety

    my grandfather had one of these ,was the first mower i learned to use
    very nice
    resto

  • @football245668
    @football245668 Před 3 lety +1

    I am legit excited for more on this mower

  • @philipm1009
    @philipm1009 Před 3 lety +4

    Machinery restorer another great video yes you inspired myself to save scrap lawnmower and get them going I have five Briggs and Stratton ,a tecumseh and a Mountfield push on cheers

  • @RedneckRepairs
    @RedneckRepairs Před 3 lety +12

    you'd think that brand name (briggs and stratton) screwdriver made specifically to remove carburetor jets would be made of sterner stuff... wrecked by a brass component lol

  • @videodistro
    @videodistro Před 3 lety

    I very much appreciate your narration. In reality, pictures are not always worth a thousand words!

  • @mralexpawlik
    @mralexpawlik Před 3 lety

    i really enjoy you leaving commentary it really shows you want to entertain and you want us to understand your thought process, unlike other restoration videos i don't know why they do what they do sometimes. thank you for taking the initiative cheers mate!

  • @dali366
    @dali366 Před 3 lety +4

    These videos are great! The silent, mysterious black- gloved mechanical restorer genius was very intriguing to watch.. but narration and occassional orange gloves worn is also ok.

  • @jacksiscavage6265
    @jacksiscavage6265 Před 3 lety +12

    I'm pretty sure this was labeled a craftsman sold by Sears back in the early 80's.i would imagine finding a mower deck that is in one piece nearly impossible. I have a feeling this tractor was sold under many different names and retailers. Nice video.

    • @JJKHaywood
      @JJKHaywood Před rokem

      I have a complete deck under the name Murray

  • @steveh8224
    @steveh8224 Před 3 lety

    Well done, great video! I just finished restoring a bolens 1053. 👍

  • @samuelwilliams3130
    @samuelwilliams3130 Před rokem

    I had one of these as a kid, my dad restored it as a kind of hotrod and i used it as a gokart for many years. Great times.

  • @daizamaker-jerrybraswell1997

    Thank you soooo much for making this video!
    I just bought the exact same Murray for $25 and I’m fixing it up.
    Mine has a “Lawn Star” sticker on it and not much rust.
    I will be using your video to work on it!

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 Před 3 lety +13

    Great video! Just started my own restoration/tune up, first in a few years: an agri fab leaf vac from the late 80s early 90s. It runs but still needs some tlc. It has a weird 5hp (12.5cuin) horizontal shaft briggs - governor, throttle, and shutoff are all entangled with the gas tank and gas tank mount. Realized I haven't touched a horizontal shaft Briggs in probably 6 or 7 years, and that one was old enough I used the briggs "antique" manual (then it broke a con rod I suspect) - what a goofy looking engine this is!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @chillofi5284
    @chillofi5284 Před 3 lety

    It's very satisfying to hear those crunches while unscrewing some screws.

  • @cbmadcow
    @cbmadcow Před 3 lety +1

    OMG we have the Sears/Craftsman version of this....My dad got it from our scoutmaster almost 25-27 years ago. First project me and my dad really worked on together. We fixed the engine, the deck and then repainted it. To this day it still runs and is used at my parents second home in NH. I believe we still have the belt part numbers written on the wall in our shed. The 10HP motor will never die.

  • @elganjones9402
    @elganjones9402 Před 3 lety +5

    Daggerwin❤️

  • @HectorGarcia-eo1lq
    @HectorGarcia-eo1lq Před 3 lety +4

    Great job ! Thank you for sharing this video ! I really enjoyed and learned from your video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯

  • @michaelfranklin6464
    @michaelfranklin6464 Před 3 lety

    sometimes it's nice that people talk about the topic but this guy he talks but not too much which i like i love this guys content

  • @Zalagar619
    @Zalagar619 Před 3 lety

    I enjoy your talking videos alot more! It helps to follow along better and explains questions you have. But either way, whichever you choose, I will still watch both :)

  • @davidhallman4011
    @davidhallman4011 Před 3 lety +7

    Well done Mate! Love the old Briggs L-heads! Ran my Grandfathers Montgomery Ward's 10/38 for years and he bought it used. Never gave any issues at all. BTW, my Wife is from Hayes/Uxbridge area. :-)

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  • @davidviar765
    @davidviar765 Před 3 lety +6

    Truly enjoyable love to watch a person who know's what they're doing! D.Viar

  • @eddypagan8675
    @eddypagan8675 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for posting and giving an explanation on details.

  • @ImperfectCarnivoreUK
    @ImperfectCarnivoreUK Před 3 lety +1

    DAGGERWIN IS THE BEST!!!!!!!

  • @nathanotremba4522
    @nathanotremba4522 Před 3 lety +8

    Oh my god I just realised that your also the guy from daggerwin channel, I thought that you sounded familiar and so I looked at your channels page and now I feel so stupid. I love! Your channels and have been subscribed to daggerwin for almost like 2 years now!!!

  • @edwardhalpin7503
    @edwardhalpin7503 Před 3 lety +13

    The sweet sound of a good ol' Briggs&Stratton

  • @BladeMateLawnCare
    @BladeMateLawnCare Před 3 lety

    This channel as a gem! Brilliant work

  • @stevenphillips6127
    @stevenphillips6127 Před 3 lety +5

    I remember my grandpa had one of these and getting to drive it around when I was a small child.

  • @roofdownfun
    @roofdownfun Před 3 lety +5

    I'm now sat here while the wife has fallen asleep on the sofa watching your video and really enjoying it whilst drinking a glass af very good single malt whiskey, please keep these excellent videos coming and with you talking on them, I really do prefer it, sorry to those who don't but just being honest. 👍

  • @patjohnson3100
    @patjohnson3100 Před 3 lety +10

    Excellent recovery. I have never had to undertake a rebuild this involved, but if I had and the engine fired right up like yours, I would feel a very happy sense of accomplishment. You did two things that I think are great ideas. First, you only did what was essential to get the mower operable, thereby avoiding a larger expenditure than necessary, and second, as the process went along and more confidence in the basic integrity of the engine was gained, you converted to electronic ignition. I did this to my older Briggs and Stratton, and was glad I did. Your commentary offers more useful information. Congratulation on a great job. Respect from the USA.

  • @ChaseLackoYT
    @ChaseLackoYT Před 3 lety +1

    I have been broght here from daggerwin

  • @AceOneOne
    @AceOneOne Před rokem

    My dad bought one exactly like this in the 80s except it was sold under the Murray brand and we used it for 15 years, it still ran like new when he finally sold it for his first john deere.

  • @seandelaloe7063
    @seandelaloe7063 Před 3 lety +6

    Actually...a "how to" series would be awesome!
    Covering some of the most common issues and/or servicing would be very useful.
    If you're Lincolnshire way on, I have a few bits & bobs you can demonstrate with lol

  • @dragnon4925
    @dragnon4925 Před 3 lety +8

    Love watching you breath new life into poor neglected equipment. I hope you'll be able to get this one running again withou breaking the bank! I'm also surprised that transmission belt held up!

  • @JacobSmith-mp5qk
    @JacobSmith-mp5qk Před 3 lety

    You are the best for putting solid state on that thing

  • @madmaxfarms7980
    @madmaxfarms7980 Před 3 lety +4

    That tractor does look like the evil robot from futurama. Great Video 🙂

  • @GrinchyDan
    @GrinchyDan Před 3 lety +3

    Love this video! Please keep them coming!

  • @bart08
    @bart08 Před 3 lety +4

    This project inspired me to get my old lawn mower tractor and get it running. It's running now and i want to paint it in ford style and thanks for all these videos

  • @nancytc1
    @nancytc1 Před 2 lety +1

    Exactly what I was looking for...great explanation of each process! I have a Dixon 3303 ZTR, which is in really great shape (body, tires) and I thought I could just put in a new battery, do an oil change, etc., but the B&S 10.5 hp engine flywheel will not move. Hopefully, after replacing the circuit breaker, getting the gas out of the system (oil smells like gas), replace the gas shutoff, I can get it started. Really hoping I don't need a new engine. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

  • @YurtFerguson
    @YurtFerguson Před 11 měsíci +1

    Wow that's kind of wild to see. Before this I wouldn't of known their where gray import lawnmowers of all things. It looks to be a rebadged Murray from around 1978-1985

  • @charger19691
    @charger19691 Před 3 lety +8

    Most people would have just thrown this poor tractor into the clapper and that would have been the end of it. But the Machinery Restorer is ready to give it a go!!

  • @Primus54
    @Primus54 Před 3 lety +4

    I’ve been watching a lot of toy restoration videos and once you got the engine running I was half expecting you to start sandblasting the body in a blasting cabinet! Excellent video, Sir!

  • @geion54
    @geion54 Před rokem

    Now there is a challenge for you which I would love to watch, a full restoration on this mower.

  • @cooperr1422
    @cooperr1422 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey man I love your videos! They are so helpful and entertaining, keep up the awesome work!

  • @jusb1066
    @jusb1066 Před 3 lety +28

    It's like someone took a bucket of rust and glued into the shape of a ride on mower....

  • @enjoythesho1992
    @enjoythesho1992 Před 3 lety +5

    Those old Murray's with the H pattern transaxle are cool I have one we use as a mini tractor

  • @Don_ECHOguy
    @Don_ECHOguy Před 3 lety

    Ditto mate, I found an old 83 Murray 11/36 in a similar state. Rescued it from the edge of a field and mechanically went through it top to bottom. Engine was ok... needed a sump gasket and bottom seal and all is good and the deck was rebuilt with new Mandrel Housings etc. Lots of surface rust, but not rusted through and a Sears donor tractor of the same model was a help too. She is sound and cuts grass and may paint it at a later date. Anyways enough about that, just glad you rescued the old Murray and put it back in to service. kudos for you mate!🛠️👍

  • @theor.9219
    @theor.9219 Před 10 měsíci

    Has a 33 Max Verstappen decall on it.. lol. I love all your videos, i have been watching them for hours on end over the last couple of days. Great work 👍

  • @Tractors101
    @Tractors101 Před 3 lety +55

    Hey, I own one of those too!
    Edit: except mine is branded Murray, still the same machine though

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 Před 3 lety

      I've got a 86-87 Craftsman lt100 square body very similar configuration with a few of the same parts.

    • @mattpearce4313
      @mattpearce4313 Před 3 lety +1

      This one is also a Murray, the sticker is put over the original Murray decal

  • @jasontucher7011
    @jasontucher7011 Před 3 lety +4

    I bought one of those for $20.00 when I was 6 years old. The exhaust valve burned up. It was a great lawn tractor.

  • @bobeden5027
    @bobeden5027 Před 2 lety

    These old motors are so resilient, hey? I dragged one out of the bay, it was covered in barnacles but with a bit of TLC I got her running again. YAY!

  • @markharrisllb
    @markharrisllb Před 3 lety

    Prior to this I’ve only previously seen your 60 year old blue mower video where I don’t remember you talking. It’s without doubt an excellent video and and your written explanations were very informative. However, for me, who is totally ignorant about anything mechanical, I like your narration and explanations. You also have a good clear voice, not like my Lancashire accent. A very enjoyable video thank you.

  • @zorgar
    @zorgar Před 3 lety +12

    it looks kinda cute in a strange way i would love to see a full restoration of it

  • @alanlake5220
    @alanlake5220 Před 3 lety +3

    Noticed even your genuine Briggs carb screwdriver was twisted, that emulsion tube was very tight .

  • @msantiago5150
    @msantiago5150 Před 2 lety

    I’ll take my hat off to you !!! I feel so bad after watching this video because you have no idea how much stuff I threw away in excellent condition 👍🏻👍🏻 new subscriber !!!

  • @hobouk3871
    @hobouk3871 Před rokem

    What a great little rusty mower, a right fun little runner :)

  • @benmiddleton1585
    @benmiddleton1585 Před 3 lety +14

    No way!Can’t believe I’ve found you Dag, I’ve been watching loads of this channels videos but without the commentary ( love the commentary by the way) and was a very long term subscriber, without even knowing it’s you!!! And then saw this video and thought it sounded familiar since I watch all of your other channels videos such as let’s play, Dennis vlogs etc, I can’t believe it!! Awesome job you must be so busy with all these channels and videos to keep recording them and uploading, keep it up!

  • @TD-dq1gp
    @TD-dq1gp Před 3 lety +5

    I prefer them with narration.

  • @vinces8974
    @vinces8974 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, your work is so precise , I really enjoyed it

  • @richsmith9063
    @richsmith9063 Před 3 lety

    Glad to see you're back w/ narration

  • @AJPsWorkshop
    @AJPsWorkshop Před 3 lety +5

    Watching now looks awesome from the thumbnail

  • @Zdogcat
    @Zdogcat Před 3 lety +7

    if i found a mower like that i would get it running and then make it into a race mower and call it the flying rust bucket

  • @jimmybrewer8289
    @jimmybrewer8289 Před 3 lety

    Good luck getting it running I do believe it will run again that's old school lawn mower American made I give it a five star

  • @jimmypopp2695
    @jimmypopp2695 Před 3 lety +1

    You inspired me to such a degree that I found a mower exactly like this one and I am going to start my You Tube channel with it.

  • @mikegrandinette6253
    @mikegrandinette6253 Před 3 lety +4

    We had an old one pretty much identical, it was a craftsman, my grandma had a slightly newer one , labeled as a husky, been trying to find one for myself, good save!

  • @rev9fan1
    @rev9fan1 Před 3 lety +20

    I would love to see you redo the whole tractor paint and everything if possible, also I do enjoy the narrated videos!!

  • @brownsrvlifecampground9322

    I watch your video from the beginning to the end you are very good and professional with your mechanic work

  • @quadracen2002
    @quadracen2002 Před 3 lety +2

    That was a very cool video 😊. I like the you told us what you are doing. A lot of videos I watch like this they don't say anything. I will be watching more of your videos so thanks .

  • @MRNVCDIY
    @MRNVCDIY Před 3 lety +288

    I looked at the machine that you restored it had been forgotten for so many years. This is a great product for restoration. nice job.

  • @465painkiller465
    @465painkiller465 Před 3 lety +18

    Felt like watching a true professional! Splendid video. As a beginner in mechanics I would've loved to also see how you did the wiring. I'm having some problems with that on my Gilson super-8.

  • @miroslavzima8856
    @miroslavzima8856 Před rokem

    You have ressurected Frankenstein´s monster - and without green screen or other effects! Impressive.
    But really, WOW! I didn´t thought it will be working again.

  • @bryquentros
    @bryquentros Před 2 lety

    I have two murray 11/36. Very similar to this mower. One I am making one into a custom rider for veteran parades and using the other for spare parts. I do have a deck for one but don't plan on using it. I couldn't help you on belt size as I have shortened the original drive belt in a pulley swap to drive a little faster. Keep up the great work.