Wheel of Prog - Opeth Albums Tier with Mike Portnoy

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  • čas přidán 14. 09. 2023
  • Mike Portnoy joins Roie, Dan, and Vic on this special episode of Wheel of Prog to help rank the albums of Opeth. How would you rank these? Let us know in the comments.
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  • @MikePortnoyDT1
    @MikePortnoyDT1 Před 9 měsíci +758

    This was so much fun!
    Btw, I should’ve mentioned in my comment in the podcast revealing how Mikael told me he ripped off DT with a certain song (you’ll have to watch the video for it 😉), I shoulda mentioned how I returned the favor when I blatantly ripped him off while writing Repentance w DT! Not only was the music directly trying to cop an Opeth vibe, but when I wrote the lyrics and vocal melodies I was absolutely trying to channel Akerfeldt vibes! 🤘😎

    • @BreakingAllIllusions
      @BreakingAllIllusions Před 9 měsíci +12

      It's always a pleasure to listen to you Mike, thank you so much for taking the time out to do this "Wheel of Prog" 💕🎶💕
      I absolutely LOVE "Systematic Chaos". 'In The Presence of Enemies (The Heretic and The Dark Master)' is a MASTERPIECE. I'm glad you guys performed it LIVE in it's entirety and thanks for adding that performance on the "Chaos In Motion 2007 - 2008" DVD 🙂

    • @resoundingsource6595
      @resoundingsource6595 Před 9 měsíci

      I was thinking that as well, and was waiting for that mention! 😊🤘

    • @Ignazyoh
      @Ignazyoh Před 9 měsíci +2

      Your live version with him sounds so good! You should really do a project together

    • @williamreynolds3487
      @williamreynolds3487 Před 9 měsíci +11

      Mikael has been very open about ripping off other bands, so I’m sure he wouldn’t care at all haha

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Mike, I have always wanted to thank you . . .
      I always felt that you were a guy down my street that I could call and say "Hey dude, come over, I got a few new Albums, lets listen!".
      I have been a fan of your work with DT since "WDADU" that I got on Lp (which I still have and 3 different CD versions) after I saw an ad on the back of Kerrang Magazine that had the album cover and band shot, and a quote that said from a music journalist; "If you like Rush and Queensrÿche, you'll LOVE Dream Theater". I bought that mag at a music superstore in Costa Mesa Calif. called "Music Market" (now long gone). And for months waited for that album, it finally came in and put it on my turntable, and been a fan ever since and followed all the projects/bands you've been part of.
      Thanks for keeping Prog Metal/Progressive Rock alive, and making sure that people get to know the early pioneers who may have fell through the cracks, or forgotten through time because the genre has grown and expanded into various subgenres (like Opeth). It always brings a HUGE smile on my face whenever you mention *Watchtower* and especially *Fates Warning* (who sadly, I found out they broke-up/or are on a indefinite sabbatical, from a crew member of FW at the "Dreamsonic" show in Inglewood, we were the only 2 wearing FW shirts). It's sad that FW never really got the attention they so richly deserved, from the "John Arch" era, up to the end with "Ray Alder". And I appreciated your quote on the Anniversary Edition of "Awaken the Guardian": _"Very often fans and critic credit Dream Theater for creating a whole new genre of progressive metal music in the late '90s/early '90s, But the truth is Fates Warning were doing it years before us."_
      I hope Jim Matheos & John Arch still has a _3rd_ *Arch/Matheos* album in them. That would answer a prayer to see Arch live in concert if he decided to do a limited tour and make it to SoCal.
      As a Music nerd, connoisseur, writer and sometimes guitarist (and back to being a Conceptual Designer), I have written many _lengthy comments_ under videos, so I'll have to control myself here 😊. Just wanted to say thanks for keeping the music alive, and your like-minded knowledge and opinions about Metal, Progressive Rock, Prog Metal, and the musics we grew-up with. I have a LOT more to say, but you can always go here to get a taste of what got me into these genres:
      mavearworx.weebly.com/blog/witnessing-the-birth-of-progressive-metal-part-1-of-2
      (I'm sure a lot of links within need to be replaced).
      Opeth is a band I had finally sunk my teeth into by the time "Still Life" was already released, and then went backwards into their catalogue by the time "Blackwater Park" had just came out. So this will be a very exceptional episode. I talk about them and others at-length in my essay, many that have influenced you, DT and your various bandmates through the years. I hope you and others enjoy (and other music related essay's).
      Btw - you are one of my favorite Drummers, I have always loved your use of various cymbals and fills. I'm not a drummer, but I'm a huge fan from Jazz/Fusion to Metal and its a instrument I wished I learned when I was younger. I'm sure my neighbors are very happy about that 😛.
      - Take care Mike, and thanks again, I hope you and family are well \m/.

  • @arumyn3070
    @arumyn3070 Před 9 měsíci +69

    That 5-minute middle section of Black Rose Immortal starting from around minute 9 is hands down my favorite Opeth moment ever. I live in Iran and here we don't have access to CDs or anything, so when I downloaded that song from some random Napster clone (I was like 10 or something) all I got was this section, cleanly cut, so for years I didn't even know that the actual song was way longer than that.

    • @dolinofolde
      @dolinofolde Před 9 měsíci +2

      That sounds miraculous. The song is a masterpiece each riff is like a song in it's own. Things like that have deep meaning I'm sure you were very happy when you discovered the full song. :)

    • @golgol4903
      @golgol4903 Před 9 měsíci +3

      oh boy, Iran... all the best to you! My brother once went there with his ex girlfriend (an Iranian he met in Europe) and it was a huge cultural shock. The way women are treated there, man ;/

    • @arumyn3070
      @arumyn3070 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@dolinofolde Hell yeah, I actually bought a guitar again just 2 days ago and I've promised myself to learn the whole song, one riff a day

    • @arumyn3070
      @arumyn3070 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@golgol4903 Thanks, yeah it's pretty terrifying how little human lives are actually worth down here

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci

      BRI is such a good song, amazing counterpoint. It’s folksy, hard hitting, soft and mellow and overall hits me like a classical musical piece in structure.

  • @Lukkern
    @Lukkern Před 9 měsíci +82

    Opeth is my favorite band of all time! And i honestly think it's one of the very few bands that don't have one single bad album. Lucky me!

    • @stevemuzak8526
      @stevemuzak8526 Před 9 měsíci +4

      I totally agree. Every album is special and unique.

    • @TheMrAdax
      @TheMrAdax Před 9 měsíci

      Heritage is fkin awful!

    • @Heatwave9000
      @Heatwave9000 Před 5 měsíci +1

      They do have bad albums though 🤦

    • @quercingtime
      @quercingtime Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Heatwave9000 they really don't, it's more like if you don't like the change of genre

  • @XiyuYang
    @XiyuYang Před 9 měsíci +235

    Orchid and Morningrise were not bad albums. Opeth went for a completely different style after these two but to me, they were great.

    • @stevemuzak8526
      @stevemuzak8526 Před 9 měsíci +24

      I listen to Abbey Road remastered versions of these albums and now I appreciate them so much more. New mix is fantastic. Mikael's growl sound so much better on Abbey Road remasters.

    • @zinAab79
      @zinAab79 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Those are not bad albums, but compared to everything that came after, both albums sounds like they still were finding a sound, so the strong Opeth personality we love was still uncooked but very well on track. I quite like some things they did on those albums that sadly they neved tried before, like fretless bass. They never did something like to bid you farewell

    • @timmypagee
      @timmypagee Před 9 měsíci

      @@zinAab79Sorceress is a piece of shit near Morningrise or Orchid.

    • @BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
      @BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Před 9 měsíci +24

      They are more than great... In my opinion Opeth never surpassed them.
      S: Morningrise
      A: Orchid, Still Life, Ghost Reveries
      B: MAYH, Blackwater Park, Deliverance
      C: Damnation, Watershed, Pale Communion, most Dream Theater albums
      D: Heritage, Sorceress, ICV

    • @eltrotatorta7388
      @eltrotatorta7388 Před 9 měsíci +7

      Orchid, MAYH, Morningrise, still life, bwp all of them are fukn great albums

  • @stevemuzak8526
    @stevemuzak8526 Před 9 měsíci +55

    Opeth's discography is so rich in music. I never get bored by this band because they refuse to stuck in one genre. Every album is different. From black metal, death metal, prog rock, jazz, folk etc. They did it all. They can be brutal as hell and mellow at the same time. Sometimes I can't believe that band exist. It's so one of a kind.

    • @Felipe..Vieira
      @Felipe..Vieira Před 9 měsíci +4

      they are my current go to band to study music theory, not to diss mike and the band, but in my ears mikael is a better songwritter than dream theater, just not as technical but more melodical

    • @stevemuzak8526
      @stevemuzak8526 Před 9 měsíci

      I wouldn't dare to compare Opeth with Dream Theater. Different worlds. @@Felipe..Vieira

    • @MaglorMusic
      @MaglorMusic Před 9 měsíci +1

      They’re not stuck in one genre, but so many bands try to jump from style to style that sound mediocre in performance or composition, but not Opeth. Opeth could do a soul or electronic album, and they would nail it! 😆👌🏻🤘🏻

    • @AnotherDay-ce6th
      @AnotherDay-ce6th Před 9 měsíci

      @@Felipe..Vieira I don't think like that. Opeth lyrics are average at best. Dream Theater gave tons of epic writings.

    • @AnotherDay-ce6th
      @AnotherDay-ce6th Před 9 měsíci

      Being an Opeth lover, they have many sluggish and mediocre songs. @@MaglorMusic

  • @psychofunksoldier02
    @psychofunksoldier02 Před 9 měsíci +91

    Hours of Wealth deserves a mention for some of the best soulful vocals and guitar on display.

    • @basscom77
      @basscom77 Před 9 měsíci +5

      One of my favourite Opeth songs

    • @snieznybalwan
      @snieznybalwan Před 9 měsíci +2

      Absolute banger song

    • @SkorpioMusic
      @SkorpioMusic Před 9 měsíci +2

      It's also my favorite guitar solo of the entire Opeth catalog. :)

    • @Justinlmd
      @Justinlmd Před 9 měsíci +3

      For more of that sound, check out Akerfeldt’s solo on Porcupine Tree’s Arriving Somewhere

    • @SkorpioMusic
      @SkorpioMusic Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Justinlmd and that is my favorite Akerfeldt solo of all time. Good call! 😁👍

  • @TheGrinder66
    @TheGrinder66 Před 9 měsíci +16

    I’ll never forget being at Terminal 5 in NYC for the tour that Opeth played Blackwater Park straight through and I looked up and Mike Portnoy was in the balcony jamming along and singing every song. It was an incredible experience

  • @vallaindigital
    @vallaindigital Před 9 měsíci +71

    It was nice to have Mike as a special guest! I always love to hear him geek out on music stuff. He always has something interesting to tell. Nice vid guys, and thanks!

  • @Ben__David
    @Ben__David Před 9 měsíci +69

    I would love to see a Wheel of Prog for Riverside!

    • @pongop2179
      @pongop2179 Před 9 měsíci +5

      For me, "Out Of Myself" and "Second Life Syndrome" would be at the top of the list! 😀 and "ADHD" and "REM" would be at the bottom of the list.

    • @bunnysoup6858
      @bunnysoup6858 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Me too!

    • @brandeluna6419
      @brandeluna6419 Před 9 měsíci

      YEEEEESSSSSSS

    • @Fantomassexybeast
      @Fantomassexybeast Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@pongop2179 Wow.. Anno Domini is either 1st or 2nd to me.. LOL

    • @felixalonsodepablo7943
      @felixalonsodepablo7943 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Anno Domini is the BEST album from Riverside

  • @carlosnascimento9269
    @carlosnascimento9269 Před 9 měsíci +25

    Always love hearing Mike talk about other bands and music in general.

  • @Nosferatu1022
    @Nosferatu1022 Před 9 měsíci +65

    Your arms, my hearse is S tier. I'm shocked you glossed over it. The composition, the lyrics, the concept. It's a work of art. Truly shocked by that one.

    • @joaopaulobonomeneto1287
      @joaopaulobonomeneto1287 Před 9 měsíci +12

      My favourite Opeth album hands down. I really don't understand all the hate... Only thing people point out is "bad recording quality" and something like that...

    • @golgol4903
      @golgol4903 Před 9 měsíci +6

      I mean just look how they treated Orchid and Morningrise. I understand that something needs to be on the bottom of the ranking but the way they talked about these albums was disrespectful imo.

    • @josephernandez3465
      @josephernandez3465 Před 9 měsíci +5

      This album has a different atmosphere, its own magic. At least an A tier, without a doubt.

    • @disres1337
      @disres1337 Před 8 měsíci

      @@golgol4903theres a reason most people dont like these albums that much. It doesnt mean they dont have their place or cant be favorites for some, but it makes total sense for them to talk about them how they do…

    • @zenoslime
      @zenoslime Před 5 měsíci +2

      easily their best imo. 100% agreed.

  • @despot666
    @despot666 Před 9 měsíci +28

    The Orchid to Blackwater Park albums are death metal masterpieces. Every single one of them. If they never made another album after Blackwater Park they’d still be one of the top 10 death metal bands of all time.

    • @user-du1yk7uk9v
      @user-du1yk7uk9v Před 9 měsíci +1

      Opeth are great when they sing when they growl they simply DO SUCKS. They are great when they don't play boring "metal"

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil Před 9 měsíci

      Progressive death metal* none of them were pure death metal. That's bands like Death, Morbid Angel, etc. Bands I LOVE too but Opeth were ALWAYS more than just a death metal band.

    • @user-po9sd8nq8v
      @user-po9sd8nq8v Před 9 měsíci +1

      There isn’t a single song on Orchid that remotely resembles death metal, it’s black metal

    • @despot666
      @despot666 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@user-po9sd8nq8v It's a really hard album to classify. The vocals are more akin to black metal but the music is unlike any black metal album from that era. There are no blast beats, no tremolo picking, the themes are definitely not black metal themes. If anything, it could be seen as a precursor to atmospheric metal. I guess if I had to put a tag on it, it would be atmospheric, blackened death metal.

  • @lopolik
    @lopolik Před 9 měsíci +13

    Morningrise and Orchid are S tier for me, when I was only into prog, I didn't like them, but now it's actually one of my favorites, Morningrise might be actually my favorite.

  • @Kookiebiskit
    @Kookiebiskit Před 9 měsíci +33

    I absolutely ADORE Sorceress, it's such a throwback to the concept records of the 1970s. I know it's not an "official" concept album, but the tonalities, instrumentation, structure and lyrical themes always make it read like a contemporary account of the middle ages to me. It feels really cohesive from beginning to end and leaves me satisfied every time I finish listening to it.

    • @Tharg
      @Tharg Před 9 měsíci +5

      Yeah I think Sorceress is the one for me.. so hard to pick. That, or Pale Communion..but then there's Deliverance & Damnation . Lol, there are no shit Opeth albums. Faith in others on Pale Communion is a masterpiece imo.

    • @mirkecWii
      @mirkecWii Před 9 měsíci

      To me its weird, I really like some songs but its also the only Opeth album where I dont have all the songs on my playlist. If they released a remix of it it would definitely make me appreciate it more

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah it’s for me is only behind pale communion out of the 4 prog albums.

  • @MeyerzumMischen
    @MeyerzumMischen Před 9 měsíci +23

    In Cauda Venenum for me is the pinnacle of the recent era and is for me on level with my two other favorite Opeth albums Ghost Reveries and Watershed. What I particularly love is how the songs flow into each other and elevate each other in the process. I'm so glad that Axe got to record this one.

    • @databloom70
      @databloom70 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Couldn't agree more. Of the newer 4, C.V. is top of the heap.

    • @shredneck360
      @shredneck360 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yes! ICV is a fuckin‘ Masterpiece!

  • @Legionbass19
    @Legionbass19 Před 9 měsíci +15

    Definitely agreeing with Mike on The Baying of the Hounds. It’s the song that got me into Opeth’s heavier side and really encapsulates a lot of their sound well.

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci

      Such a great song, beneath the mire is also a banger!

  • @Arrow2theACL
    @Arrow2theACL Před 9 měsíci +21

    Hello boss. What's happening? Yeah. I'm going to need go ahead and have an extra hour before I do any work this morning. Ok, Thanks.

  • @ZauTa
    @ZauTa Před 9 měsíci +11

    I honestly don't understand how people group my arms with orchid and morningrise. My arms is where mik's riff style is born, and while the mid era opeth sound isn't polished in my arms, it's definitely there.

  • @filipdzero8739
    @filipdzero8739 Před 9 měsíci +14

    I'm just happy Ghost Reveries ended up at S. To me it's just perfectly paced, the production is awesome and don't get me started on banger songs.

  • @bunnysoup6858
    @bunnysoup6858 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I've been getting in to Opeth recently, so I love that this comes out now!

  • @SD-cl5mj
    @SD-cl5mj Před 9 měsíci +6

    Love the PRS in the background

  • @RickNBacker
    @RickNBacker Před 9 měsíci +4

    Great show, subbed! Can't wait to go back thru previous vids.

  • @Zhgarr
    @Zhgarr Před 9 měsíci +6

    This was fun! Mike was a great guest.
    First time seeing the Wheel of Prog. I might just check out the DT one.
    I was just randomly thinking about what would happen with Devin Townsend's discography with his 30-odd completely different albums 😂

  • @filheim
    @filheim Před 9 měsíci +6

    Deliverance is the heaviest album of all time written in E standard

  • @atthecore4560
    @atthecore4560 Před 8 měsíci +7

    StillLife is the gold standard for Opeth fans.
    Definitely my favorite album by them.

    • @shiscarp
      @shiscarp Před 5 měsíci +1

      Their 2nd through 6th albums are like a giant rock paper scissors game to me where each one can beat the others. If I have to pick it's BWP but just reading your comment made me think about how much of a masterpiece Still Life is.

    • @atthecore4560
      @atthecore4560 Před 5 měsíci

      @@shiscarp Nice. In relevance of your take, I definitely pick Blackwater Park as my second pick of the litter.
      StillLife is just where they have my heart. It's where their sound was defined, even up until this very day.

  • @deanwolfechannel
    @deanwolfechannel Před 9 měsíci +1

    Nice video guys. I've got so many prog discographies to get through!

  • @mikew.3128
    @mikew.3128 Před 9 měsíci +20

    Ghost Revieries and My Arms Your Hearse are my two favorite Opeth albums. My Arms Your Hearse is an incredibly underrated album in their catalog. As is Still Life.

  • @bernardobarrientos3642
    @bernardobarrientos3642 Před 9 měsíci

    This is some of the best entertainment/TV I’ve seen in quite a while. Thank you!

  • @aydendonley9660
    @aydendonley9660 Před 9 měsíci +9

    I can’t even imagine how awesome it would’ve been with Mike “sliding in” on drums when Ax left🤯🤯

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil Před 9 měsíci +1

      That would've been awesome! I don't like how low he ranks the 90s stuff and he's definitely underrating Still Life and overrating Heritage but that aside, I still love him 😅

    • @aydendonley9660
      @aydendonley9660 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Aenigmakil It’s tough when it’s opeth’s catalogue. Nothing bad in it to me. I personally love heritage and think it’s actually underrated. But I can definitely understand why someone wouldn’t dig it. Especially if the 90s stuff is your top jam, it would be so out there in comparison 🤣

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil Před 9 měsíci

      @@aydendonley9660 funnily enough, I do like Heritage (even if it's bottom tier for me) and I'm one of those guys who is big into Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Camel, etc. I love my 60s and 70s music! I just think Heritage would've been better as an Åkerfeldt solo album. It's better than Sorceress though. Worst album for me.

    • @aydendonley9660
      @aydendonley9660 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Aenigmakil I can definitely see where heritage would have worked better as a solo album for him. It would have as they said helped with the expectation of what Opeth sounds like. I feel like the latest one and pale communion did a perfect job of combining a 70s sounding prog with an Opeth sound. And Sorceress, while I still love it is just flat out strange in comparison to the rest of the discography. And the muddy production was kind of an interesting choice too.

  • @kurtkish6970
    @kurtkish6970 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Also- Opeth is my favorite band and I’m 66.

  • @alexparadise91
    @alexparadise91 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I just love seeing Mike nerd out over things he’s passionate about. Whether it’s with music, or film, or tv shows, I never get tired seeing how enthusiasm he is when he experiences other forms of art and music.

  • @antoniokofoed7139
    @antoniokofoed7139 Před 9 měsíci +10

    The heritage tour was my first show that I saw from them . Devils orchard blew my mind.

    • @siriusfun
      @siriusfun Před 9 měsíci

      Same! Became a fan for life at that point.

  • @DVBandDad8
    @DVBandDad8 Před 9 měsíci +13

    More Portnoy is ALWAYS a value-add. Thanks Mike!

  • @DarcMurkee
    @DarcMurkee Před 9 měsíci +2

    First time watching this series, great concept!

  • @mr.recordman979
    @mr.recordman979 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Did Mike just confirmed that Opeth is working on a new album? I'm in heaven right now ❤

    • @TheMrAdax
      @TheMrAdax Před 9 měsíci +12

      If it's anything like the last 4, it won't be worth listening to.

    • @mr.recordman979
      @mr.recordman979 Před 9 měsíci +6

      I wouldn't be surprised if Mikael were to be inspired by Walt as he is a metal drummer and young blood overall. This might trigger him to do an old style Opeth record. For me, a mix of Watershed and Cauda would be a dream

    • @wesleybforti
      @wesleybforti Před 9 měsíci +1

      I'm actually surprised not many people know about it, Mikael said that earlier this year in their SA tour

    • @michaelkarlsson5966
      @michaelkarlsson5966 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@mr.recordman979 hopefully they won't go back to metal.

    • @dewedytwo3246
      @dewedytwo3246 Před 2 měsíci

      @@TheMrAdaxshut your gob

  • @douglaspowell5971
    @douglaspowell5971 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great wheel, guys! First time where we pretty much match up! Thanks for the great content.

  • @matheusmoreiradearaujo3267
    @matheusmoreiradearaujo3267 Před 9 měsíci +21

    In Cauda Venenum to me is their greatest of the last four albums solely because of the swedish lyrics version. Mikael's genius songwriting somehow shines brighter in his own language, it gives each track a very discinct vibe to me and the ''definitive version'' of that album you should be listening to is the swedish one, IMO. Great tierlist overall!

    • @mirkecWii
      @mirkecWii Před 9 měsíci +1

      I've gotten so used to the english version that the Swedish one sounds too odd

    • @NE0MAS
      @NE0MAS Před 9 měsíci +1

      Allting tar slut (everything ends), last song, in the Swedish version his voice almost cracks which sounds awesome in context with the song. Don’t think he does that in English one

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci

      I didn’t like it at first, took me 4 full listens till I really started to dig it. Funny all the songs they mention aren’t the ones that stood out for me on the album. All things will pass, universal truth, garroter, lovelorn crime and dignity are my absolute favorites.

  • @Mardell.
    @Mardell. Před 9 měsíci +16

    I see "Watershed" more than "Ghost Reveries" as the album that is the perfect mix between Opeth's two musical aspects.

    • @frankfrohmann1504
      @frankfrohmann1504 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Without a doubt.
      I wonder why still so many can´t see it.
      Watershed is the peak!

    • @dv1860
      @dv1860 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@frankfrohmann1504Watershed Supremacy 🏞🏞🏞🏞🏞🏞

    • @Utubesuxmycock
      @Utubesuxmycock Před 7 měsíci +1

      Both master pieces
      I see watershed as an extension of ghost
      Like ghost 2nd chapter

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra Před 5 měsíci

      it's not. it's second half is really weak. especially in the non deluxe edition without the cover songs. @@frankfrohmann1504

  • @BibhasChatterjee
    @BibhasChatterjee Před 9 měsíci

    This is so nerdy and seeing Mike nerding out as well…. I’m in tears and stitches 🙂🥲🙃

  • @Jablan11
    @Jablan11 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Bleak being inspired by home makes it even better, it was my favorite opeth song anyway and it just got more awesome.

    • @moonlightreveries1459
      @moonlightreveries1459 Před 9 měsíci

      What you mean inspired by home?

    • @Jablan11
      @Jablan11 Před 9 měsíci

      @@moonlightreveries1459 Mike Portnoy mentions it in the video, the main riff of bleak is inspired by the dream theater song home

    • @moonlightreveries1459
      @moonlightreveries1459 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Jablan11 ohhhhhh ok thanks 🙏 I didn’t watch it in full yet

  • @feloniousmonk5261
    @feloniousmonk5261 Před 9 měsíci

    I had the privilege of seeing Dream Theater and Opeth play on the same night in Manchester, 2009. What a show that was! Very cool episode guys!

  • @JAGValiant
    @JAGValiant Před 9 měsíci +3

    I'm so glad to see high-profile love for Baying of the Hounds. It's the song that sent me down the rabbit hole and I feel like it's wildly underrated.

  • @valeskavergaravargas-fe4vt
    @valeskavergaravargas-fe4vt Před 9 měsíci +3

    The top 3 My arms your hearse, Still life and BWP

  • @edpearl299
    @edpearl299 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Really enjoyed this you guys. I was introduced to Opeth back in 2014 or so and listened to Blackwater Park and even though I was never a fan of the growling, I really loved it. I never really went in to anything else in their catalog until about a year ago when I stumbled on Sorceress and loved it, being more of a prog guy/ 70's-80's metal guy. Then went to In Cauda and loved that, then Heritage and then back in to more of their metal stuff. Now, it's my favorite band, even more than DT (Sorry Mike).

  • @SerpentbreeD
    @SerpentbreeD Před 9 měsíci +7

    Deliverance is my top album in their entire discography. The variation, the obliterating heaviness, then the dark, mellow breaks in between, it's all just so, so good. Ghost Reveries would come in second and Blackwater Park third. It is my favourite Opeth era and the one I keep returning to on an almost daily basis.

    • @Heliosphan33
      @Heliosphan33 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Their heaviest and darkest album. It’s definitely at the top for me too.

    • @shiscarp
      @shiscarp Před 5 měsíci

      @@Heliosphan33 True, and then they throw in on top of all the heaviness the beautiful A Fair Judgement with possibly my favorite guitar solo of all time. GREAT album. Their last perfect album.

  • @kainoa_written
    @kainoa_written Před 9 měsíci +3

    I loved when Heritage first dropped as a Return to Forever as well as Opeth fanatic prior to the release. Solidly decided on a tattoo after that

  • @thisguy2755
    @thisguy2755 Před 9 měsíci

    Great vids, love the channel! Maybe do an Ayreon album tier sometime?

  • @jazzyraoul
    @jazzyraoul Před 9 měsíci

    Another awesome episode. Keep those Wheels of Prog coming! I would love to see one on Spock's Beard!

  • @rolfjamne8922
    @rolfjamne8922 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great stuff.
    Stay in Scandinavia.
    Ranking the Leprous albums would be cool.🤘

  • @symol30872
    @symol30872 Před 9 měsíci

    This was great to watch. As a long time Opeth fan, there has always been such wide variety of opinions on their albums which just really shows how amazing they are and can reach people in different ways. I mostly agreed with this list. Great to see Mike on the show too.

  • @psychofunksoldier02
    @psychofunksoldier02 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Ghost Reveries and Watershed are my top 2 Opeth albums.

  • @ancientloser
    @ancientloser Před 6 hodinami

    I am so happy to find out that there are a lot of Opeth fans out there that rank Still Life as S tier, which is a hill I will die on, with Moonlapse Vertigo as one of their best and most emotional heavy songs with an outstanding outro.

  • @Islandstone89
    @Islandstone89 Před měsícem

    8:10 Pale Communion
    11:20 Heritage
    15:20 Still Life
    18:33 Ghost Reveries
    23:50 Morningrise
    27:30 Blackwater Park
    31:59 Deliverance
    36:07 In Cauda Venenum
    38:47 My Arms, Your Hearse
    40:59 Damnation
    46:05 Watershed
    50:21 Sorceress
    54:44 Orchid

  • @duesexistat5016
    @duesexistat5016 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Still life is perfection. Watershed, My arms your hearse are up there as well. All S! The song writing in MAYH is so good that it shines despite the bad production quality.

  • @corvinnicolae8172
    @corvinnicolae8172 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Loved Heritage when it came out. For me, it was frustrating that people compared it with previous albums and not appreciated for what it was. It was still Opeth, but in a different approach. I think this change was natural for them as musicians. From this last era, though, I think In Cauda Venenum is their best.
    Their absolute best, tier S, would be Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries, Damnation and In Cauda Venenum.Tier A, Still Life, Watershed, Deliverance, My Arms, Your Hearse, Heritage and Pale Communion. Tier B Sorceress, Morningrise and, finally Tier C, Orchid.

  • @kg4rys
    @kg4rys Před 9 měsíci +5

    Outstanding Wheel of Prog! Pink Floyd would be another great choice, along with Spock’s Beard, Flower Kings and of course Iron Maiden.

  • @HawksNHabsPC
    @HawksNHabsPC Před 9 měsíci +5

    Agree on all points about Harlequin Forest! My fav Opeth song and on the best album!

    • @Cappii
      @Cappii Před 9 měsíci

      100% agree. My favorite song and album aswell 💪

  • @carlosclerigadrums
    @carlosclerigadrums Před 9 měsíci +3

    Incredible and solid discography, with at least 6 Masterpieces. (Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries, Deliverance,Damnation,Watershed Still Life). Nice video, so fun to see!

    • @dewedytwo3246
      @dewedytwo3246 Před 2 měsíci

      That list is every single song in their middle era 🤣

  • @stephenjoyce7061
    @stephenjoyce7061 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Awesome episode! My list:
    S: Still Life, Blackwater Park, Deliverance
    A: Damnation, Ghost Reveries, In Cauda Venenum
    B: Sorceress, My Arms Your Hearse, Watershed
    C: Heritage, Pale Communion
    D: Orchid, Morningrise

    • @mirekc8619
      @mirekc8619 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Your picks are VERY close to mine! 🤘

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci +1

      Interesting list. Somewhat different from mine, but I can understand it for sure. A lot of these albums are so close together it’s hard making a definitive tier list lol. Literally not a bad album.

  • @ModernDayWarrior2112
    @ModernDayWarrior2112 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I wanted to be on the Rush wheel 😢
    Great episode as usual ❤

  • @waynechesser2000
    @waynechesser2000 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Damnation has what may just be my all-time favorite drum part. At 1:40, with the start of the second verse of Death Whispered A Lullaby, the interplay between the bass and snare drums and the hi-hat is just

  • @selim6033
    @selim6033 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Mike is soooo wrong about Pale Comunion. That album is a complete masterpiece. So Tier S for sure.

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci +1

      Eternal rains, moon above, and faith alone are top songs for me. My favorite overall non growl Opeth album.

    • @selim6033
      @selim6033 Před 3 měsíci

      @@soakedbearrd Facts

  • @justinmiller9169
    @justinmiller9169 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I was surprised that they put Morningrise in D tier. It is my favorite by far! I can still listen to the album. It's like reading a novel in that it progresses from one part to the next, not like a verse chorus kind of thing. Excellent production, melodies, and acoustic parts.

    • @shiscarp
      @shiscarp Před 5 měsíci

      I think they need to re-visit the album and see how wrong they were! :)

    • @greg.shred83
      @greg.shred83 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Before Blackwater Park came out, us older Opeth fans always considered Morningrise the best. Stopped following them after 2001.

  • @LowAMVUpLowDurrrr
    @LowAMVUpLowDurrrr Před 4 měsíci

    Opening to In mist she was standing sounds like early fates warning. Like awaken the guardian era. Opeth & Dream Theater will always have a special place in my heart.

  • @matthewlangendoen4199
    @matthewlangendoen4199 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The wilde flowers from Sorceress has one of the best guitar solos ever.

  • @arnaudb.7669
    @arnaudb.7669 Před 9 měsíci

    Fantastic!
    Thanks.

  • @David_Miller522
    @David_Miller522 Před 6 měsíci

    So interesting to hear everyone's options and view points. Music being very personal, it was a very cool video. Every album is hard to place in a order.

  • @nintendad1166
    @nintendad1166 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Seeing their first 3 albums in B-D tier is so on-brand for prog nerds.

  • @VindictiveRaider
    @VindictiveRaider Před 9 měsíci +3

    A long story short I was one of the promoters that did Opeth in Alberta Canada. It was one of their first shows on the tour where Lopez did not show up. They could not play the show without their drummer. Gene hoglan was playing with one of the bands that were opening for Opeth when I suggested that Gene and Michael should play together to continue the tour. They both agreed but unfortunately Gene was not ready to play Edmonton but did play Vancouver with them and continued on the tour. 🙃🤘

    • @driftless7134
      @driftless7134 Před 9 měsíci

      Hoglan is incredible! Very cool of him to fill in and help out.

  • @lilith8610
    @lilith8610 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The thing is that im a european fan of Opeth and I love prog just as much as black and death metal, I love every album of them for a different reason and i actually love that I can listen to my favourite band for hours and not feel like im listening to the same thing over and over again

  • @the_Rade
    @the_Rade Před 9 měsíci

    Great episode, great ranking!
    Pain of Salvation next?

  • @WoPrulez
    @WoPrulez Před 9 měsíci +1

    Well when the wheel landed on my literal favorite album of all time and you guys put it in B it did take a lot of the initial excitement out for me..

  • @user-yn1sf9mq3z
    @user-yn1sf9mq3z Před 9 měsíci +1

    the prog nation tour in 2008 was the first opeth show i went to (dream theater skipped pittsburgh, so opeth headlined). i can confirm the pit went absolutely nuts when they played baying of the hounds.

  • @Proglove85
    @Proglove85 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Opeth's discography is such a tricky one to rank, because - as remarked in the video - all albums are just so good. They are one of the few bands, who (in my opinion) have not released one single bad or even meh album. So it quickly becomes subjective to the ear of the beholder. My ranking would probably be something like:
    S: Blackwater Park; My Arms, Your Hearse; Still Life
    A: Ghost Reveries; Pale Communion; Deliverance
    B: Damnation; Sorceress; Morningrise
    C: Watershed; In Cauda Venenum
    D: Orchid; Heritage
    MAYH is probably my favourite of theirs, if only because it was the first one I ever listened to. There are som great tracks on there: Karma, Demon Of The Fall, April Ethereal, The Amen Corner and obviously When, which is like af first taste of what Opeth was to morph into in the 00's. Still Life has my favourite track of theirs though - I absolutely adore Godhead's Lament.

    • @iceman992992
      @iceman992992 Před 9 měsíci

      Swap In Cauda and Sorceress, and to me you’re dead on

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci

      Very solid list, I agree on most, and very close to my tier list.

  • @SentientNr6
    @SentientNr6 Před 9 měsíci

    This was really fun and interesting to watch. Opeth has soooo many good albums, they just have a different feel. In Cauda Venenum took me a while to like but after a lot of listens to me it's one of their best albums.

  • @sansubr
    @sansubr Před 9 měsíci

    I have only heard Blackwater Park and Pale Communion. I learnt a lot about Opeth's evolution and I have been listening to Ghost Reveries after this episode. Thank you :)

  • @billyboostah6308
    @billyboostah6308 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Except for a switch between Heritage and Morningrise (and maybe a little bit within the tiers), this is how I would rank them as well! Very good video:)

  • @Aj66602
    @Aj66602 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I’m really happy with Still Life being so high. For me it is my absolute #1.

  • @TheSentry777
    @TheSentry777 Před 9 měsíci +14

    Seeing Morningrise and Orchid at the bottom while Ghost Reveries sits at the top burns a hole in my soul.

    • @Kurkjianomega
      @Kurkjianomega Před 9 měsíci

      I agree.

    • @Chet_Philodenge
      @Chet_Philodenge Před 9 měsíci

      I don't have a strong opinion about ghost, but yeah the other two belong towards the top.

    • @leonmurray7488
      @leonmurray7488 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Orchid starts strong but falls off hard. I'd put Morningrise in A. I agree that Ghost Reveries is bottom tier.

    • @Chet_Philodenge
      @Chet_Philodenge Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@leonmurray7488 twilight is my robe is one of their best songs, and apostle in triumph is excellent

    • @leonmurray7488
      @leonmurray7488 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Chet_Philodenge I just listened to them both and you are correct. Both great tracks, not sure why I dismissed them previously.

  • @ars_moriendi.official
    @ars_moriendi.official Před 9 měsíci +4

    I always enjoyed Heritage and is one of my favorites. I may be alone on this one, but that's okay. I Feel the Dark, Nepenthe, and Famine, are my 3 favorite songs from heritage

    • @mirekc8619
      @mirekc8619 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Out of the last four new direction Opeth records, Heritage is my favorite. Great stuff!

    • @codexaegis1977
      @codexaegis1977 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Agreed man, I love that album. One of the best

    • @ars_moriendi.official
      @ars_moriendi.official Před 9 měsíci

      @codexaegis1977 sure is. Glad to finally hear someone else thinks so too.

    • @ars_moriendi.official
      @ars_moriendi.official Před 9 měsíci

      @codexaegis1977 I always raise the question to the Heritage and last 3 album haters.... who admittedly love damnation so much..
      if the songs on Heritage, or any of the last 4 albums were on damnation and your favorite damnation songs were on any of the last 4 albums. Would you still love damnation?
      And would you still hate Heritage or the last 4 albums?.
      For example Instead of to Rid the disease or Closure on damnation it was Eternal Rains or Devil's Orchard?.
      I feel like people just hate to hate.. those are great songs who just got the misfortune of being on albums that are popular to hate on. it's ridiculous.

  • @ArghBeast
    @ArghBeast Před 9 měsíci +5

    Baying of the hounds is to me the best music ever in metal there is. It's there above The Cocoon of Richard Henshal. The leveling of every type of stile here is something so beautifully mixed and there's a beginning middle and ending that makes my body hair go beserk everytime I listen to that break near the end with the acoustics. It's near a freaking orgasm if I'm allowed to say so. It's my go-to album everytime I want something to level me up.

    • @jeanp5680
      @jeanp5680 Před 9 měsíci +1

      They opened with that song in Montreal '05... Great song !!!!

  • @TheProgCorner
    @TheProgCorner Před 9 měsíci

    Fantastic!!!

  • @Aguywithsticks
    @Aguywithsticks Před 9 měsíci

    Mike said his favorite song. Instantly ran over to listen to it again as I use to religiously listen to this album. Wouldn't you know it, :)

  • @ChrisLT
    @ChrisLT Před 9 měsíci +1

    Oh nice, this'll be fun.

  • @thetelepath8245
    @thetelepath8245 Před 9 měsíci

    Very well done guys and it was amazing to hear MP´s opinion on this! I think (almost) every Opeth fan can agree with this list, but I can´t deny I´m very happy that my favorite Still Life got into S tier :-D
    How awesome it would be to have MP as the new Opeth drummer...

  • @siriusfun
    @siriusfun Před 9 měsíci +3

    That was great, guys! I would've given 'Heritage' a bit more love as it was a huge change and paradigm shift that they pulled off convincingly with fresh, yet authentically retro/nostalgic tonal characteristics.
    As for Mike mentioning 70s vs 80s Beatles, I can only assume he meant McCartney. Cheers!

    • @progreport
      @progreport  Před 9 měsíci

      Yes correct

    • @VampireHeart518
      @VampireHeart518 Před 9 měsíci

      Heritage has the most beautiful material, but the composition is all over the place, rather disembodied... I think that's why it's not that convincing, because as beautiful and interesting the small bits may be, the songs don't coagulate properly imo
      (also, the 'sound engineering' aspect makes it a bit impossible to listen to, for me. As much as I love nuances, there's too big of a chasm between LOUD and *quiet*, I keep having to mess with the volume button :)) )
      I get your point and kudos to them, yeah
      I think you nailed it with ''fresh, yet authentic' - they just love this music so sincerely much that it translates :)

  • @SkorpioMusic
    @SkorpioMusic Před 9 měsíci

    This was great! Definitely do Fates Warning.

  • @henrywalton5967
    @henrywalton5967 Před 9 měsíci +3

    3:40 Let's not forget Focus by Cynic released 1993, very proggy and it just hit it's 30th anniversery a few days ago!

    • @ryanorlando1122
      @ryanorlando1122 Před 8 měsíci

      Holy shit I'm old. That song holds up though, it was ahead of its time.

  • @sloggo
    @sloggo Před 9 měsíci +2

    I would never rank any of their album under S-tier

  • @threestringsomg
    @threestringsomg Před 9 měsíci

    Love that the top 3 levels could all be S tier for other fans of Opeth. Like you say guys, such a massively strong (imo one of the strongest all time) discographies...of any band out there. Sorceress...my guilty Opeth pleasure of an album. Persephone is such a great opener. Im trying to learn it by ear on guitar. Great video👍

  • @christopherdaugherty9344
    @christopherdaugherty9344 Před 2 měsíci

    Same Mike! "The Baying of the Hounds" is my all time banger!!!

  • @catchinguptoeveryone
    @catchinguptoeveryone Před 9 měsíci +2

    I dismissed Watershed when it was released after hearing The Lotus Eater and thinking it was going to be a Ghost Reveries clone. After listening to this episode I actually listened to Watershed and it really is a bridge between Ghost Reveries and Heritage in the best way possible. Such a great album. A tier for sure.

  • @joelandrews2046
    @joelandrews2046 Před 9 měsíci +1

    3 Needs a lot more attention, they are beyond good!

  • @Nickball97
    @Nickball97 Před 9 měsíci +1

    1. Ghost Reveries
    2. BWP
    3. Still Life
    4. MAYH
    5. Deliverance
    6. Watershed
    7. Damnation
    8. Pale Communion
    9. In Cauda Venenum
    10. Morningrise
    11. Heritage
    12. Sorceress
    13. Orchid

  • @Cybothron
    @Cybothron Před 9 měsíci +1

    Opeth and Bodom made me discover a whole new world.

  • @anderslango4217
    @anderslango4217 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great ep! Opeth are truly Great

  • @legolator
    @legolator Před 9 měsíci

    Imagen Portnoy being in on a Opeth record and what we get is like a trip back to the mid 2000's. I love all the albums, but given Portnoy's style and all that I think it would be so fitting to have like a Ghost Reveries / Watershed style album (no growl thats fine if Åkerfeldt doesn't want to, I'm not a growl-nostalgia-opeth-listener) with Portnoy on the drums. Man... Well this was a great video, been a fan of DT, LTE, Opeth since forever man. Always interesting to hear what Portnoy's been up to and thinking about. :)

  • @theDML2112
    @theDML2112 Před 9 měsíci

    Watershed was my 'entry album' to this band, so I would have it in the S tier. Actually, the tier you guys put up is pretty solid. This was really cool to watch - thanks! It made me sullbscribe 🤘

  • @lopolik
    @lopolik Před 9 měsíci +1

    26:30 I think that literally Orchid and Morningrise has the most amount of acoustic playing out of any Opeth albums, just because they are longer as well, I mean like some of the songs have even like 4 minutes of acoustic sections, if not more.

  • @huntthekirbster
    @huntthekirbster Před 9 měsíci +1

    Pale communion is my favorite prog era album, maybe even one of my favorites overall

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Před 3 měsíci

      Same. I like them all but heritage is more of a vibe album for me, very experimental and artsy, I dig it but it’s still my least favorite out of the 4. PC for me is easily their best non growl album (yes I have it higher than damnation).