Are INFJs really that sensitive?
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If there is one pattern I've noticed over the years is that I quite consistantly associate with a low sensitivity it would (simply) be the sensing functions. The word even implies it already. Sensors are generally much less sensitive than intuitive types. Intuition is basically a function that has it's powers further away, whether it's further away in time or or further away from reality like a hypothetical. It's not here right now and thus not that immediately useful right here right now, becuase it needs time. Sensing on the other hand is about what is is real there and exists now and can be used _right now_
The human is "sensitive" when you compare it to a lion and compared to a lot of of stronger and bigger animals, but because the human can use pattern recognition (intuition) to predict and understand what a lion could and can not do, we get to have the upper hand _given enough time to both learn how the lion functions and learn how we can counter their attacks_ by using the inventiveness that intuition offers.
On top of that , even by just observing high sensing types I find they much more often have a higher degree of almost primal power and presence about them that I see typcailly see lacking in intuitive types that on average just seem more nerdy and all that. Even in relationships high sensing types behave mch less 'soft' to eachother and are typically fine with it.
Intuition (wich I find related to neoteny - a lack of maturation of an organism whch partly leaves it in a childlike state - as intuition is basically imagination) is what high intuition often seem to have. They typically look young, their body composition is typically less masculine/feminine without doing sports and it's basically a grown up smart yet nerdy child. This is the opposite of the brute typical ESTP face/body structure that at least on first impression seems least 'sensitive' and most capable of figting that lion.
Edit: this post is shorter and less elaborate than my usuual since I'm having some neurological issues atm which prevent me from setting longer than like 20 mins)
Hey Ren. From my observations matter of sensitivity is dependent on individuals more than type. I'd say there are infjs more sensitive than infps, infps more sensitive than infjs almost in equal ratios, it depends on level of development and bandwith of consciousness - which is interestingly independent of physical age. However i agree that infj reactions tend to be more spiky as you mentioned. 😊
i can totally relate to what youve explained. As a infj im mostly emotionally stable or "bland" as i call it, except when there are forced external things pushed unto me. thats a situation im in now, i have to grief my pets, and at the same time im in the middle of moving in with the BF. Really stressfull and its all to much, but even with a rollercoaster of emotions and thoughs internallly im still calm. But just not a happy person and really want to be left alone.. wich is not always possible, but thats life.
thank you so much for all your really interesting and informative video's, i really enjoy them and you book "the estatic soul" !
Introverted Intuition is, I feel, a great source of sensitivity since it is embedded in an awareness of loss. Being somewhat lost to the present, we as Ni doms, have an awareness, which by it's nature is slow and unclear, of that which can't be seen and is hidden. Of course, this can also help us, because we can know that what sensors often 'see' is false. But in general, I feel NI is about loss and distance. The opposite, Se, is all about the present. Ni is thus about the future and past loss. Maybe Ni is less about sensitivity and more about trauma over time?
I wonder if other Ni dom, are like me : I easily remember my traumas (I directly have acces to them without effort) and I can share them instantly (I have the movie/scenario in mind), like it was something normal, in a very detached, distanced, objective way and neutral, without emotions (It's surely only me, cause another INTJ was surprised I could do that : say my traumas without any emotions)
I was thinking for a long time, that Ni or N, is the memory/category that stock the traumas/negative scenarios - Knowing N have acces to the unconscious, and that we stock traumas in the unconscious.
I agree with all what you wrote.
I definitely feel my past traumas more, some so that I don’t speak about them. The past is full of trauma for me. I’ve not had an awful life, but my hidden neurodivergence (as I call INFJ cognition) has made me feel and live a life of separation in many ways.
I can understand you can see INTJ as hard appearance & hard inside, probably right for the majority of them.
I find INFJ less sensitive than me.
On my side I am soft inside & hard outside 😅
In my objective personality type : my Ni & Fi are both feminine, maybe it's a part that make me sensitive. (I am Ni-Fi subtype)
I am hypersensitive (sensory, emotions...) due to my multiple neurodivergences.
However, it's complex, it depend of situations : I can be hypersensitive or not sensitive at all, the 2 extreme opposites.
It's probably my switch between Fi & Te - Te protecting my Fi, we don't prefer show this side of us, to not be hurt.
My Fi 3rd : "I am hypersensitive & vulnerable" - Te : "I am not sensitive at all, strong, emotionless" 😆
Maybe we are all sensitive about our function 4.
Maybe more depth we have, more connected we are with ourselves/the universe, more sensitive we are.
I think the N + F combination of functions, could be the most sensitive, but more the N.
Maybe IN are the most sensitives, or the N dom ?
1 INTJ friend seems more sensitive than 2 others INTJ - 1 INTP friend more sensitive than another INTP (all males)
Maybe it's more a trait of being neurodivergent ? A lot of "maybe" 🤔
To follow a previous comment, probably other aspects than psychological type play on the sensitivity, many layers; complex mind.
So spot on Ren. Wow. Will pick up the books this week. Thanks for all you do sir.
Ren, I appreciate your videos and your book, “The Ecstatic Soul.” In this video you’ve explained why I can tune so much out when needed and the global/local distinction is helpful. Could you expound on why INFJs are so sensitive to beauty? On reflection of my own experience, it’s as though when I’m at an art museum, a ballet, or an opera, my SE becomes fully engaged and all my faculties are balanced. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this as I doubt this experience is unique to myself.
Somehow, from my observation, auxillary Fe can seem "globally sensitive". What do you think about that?
You've hit the nail on the head 😂
INFJ's are most sensitive in the most classical sense of the word, aka to criticism and emotionally reacting to events in life, because Fe is emotionally reactive and we don't have a strong sense of self that high Fi users have, aka we don't have defenses.
It's like not having armor, while the INFP has an armor, and decides to get emotional at their own accord, not at the whims of the surrounding world like the INFJ.
In real life situations if you start observing and comparing the two types, you'll notice fast that the INFJ is leagues more sensitive then the INFP, who is protected in their armor of not caring of others opinions. And usually just brushes off an issue that upset them easily within minutes and goes back to their thing like it was nothing, similarly to the INTP. While the INFJ silently suffers for days, overthinking an issue over and over and losing sleep and health over the smallest thing while the INFP already forgot about it. The INFJ not being able to do that, as weak extroverted perception makes them unable to adapt and accept external data.
In a sense Fi+Ne is a perfect combo of strong inner defenses (Fi) + adaptability and easily can let go (Ne). While Ni+Fe is a combo of not being able to let go anything (Ni) + no emotional defenses, others' opinions hurt like a bullet (Fe). So INFP's are crafted for resilience, and INFJ's are crafted to take maximum damage, trap it inside us and amplify it further.
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This of course is because we defined sensitive here in an Fe way.
Another observation I had is that sensitivity is defined by two things. The strongest Extroverted function someone has (which reacts to stimuli) + the position it is in. Namely, being in second position makes it more taking IN info rather then dishing it OUT like the dominant position.
Making an ENFJ attack with their Fe, while an INFJ is getting bombarded with Fe information.
This makes the introverts most sensitive, each decided by their 2nd (parent) function.
So those most sensitive in an Ne way are INFP, INTP.
In an Se way ISTP, ISFP.
In a Te way INTJ, ISTJ.
And in an Fe way INFJ, ISFJ.
Also, since the most classical view of sensitivity is emotionally reaction (extroversion is reactivity in a sense) to situations, the most emotionally sensitive types would be INFJ and ISFJ.
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(Basically where I disagree is not that INFJ's are more sensitive then INFP on Fi grounds, but that the premise itself in the video is not correct that it's about Fi, but actually turns out sensitivity has to do with Fe and extroversion more, just in a specific position.
I see INFP's usually get triggered on Te things, not Fi. Their Fi just makes them Express their Te sensitivity lot more strongly then other types, because they don't hold back their Fi expression.)
-I do like the notion of INFP being more sensitive globally and INFJ's locally. But would word it differently, that they are more emotional globally, not sensitive (important distinction in my opinion). As they always show their emotional judgement of things, but emotions in order to be sensitive need extroversion, to make them a reactive phenomenon. So INFP's would never be really emotionally sensitive. Just emotional - as the tool with which they express their other sensitivities (Ne,Te).
Put it simply: Fi = being emotional. Fe = being emotionally sensitive.
Dom ext. function = you influencing outside. Second ext. function = outside influencing you.
Fe + Second function = Maximum level of being sensitive emotionally to outside influence.
(Extra: What makes INFP's seem soft, and INTP's as well is actually their blindness to Se (which manifests in physically looking meek), not the having of introverted judging function. Add a strong Ne over Si to that, and they seem very wishy-washy. The INxJ's also have weak Se, but their lack of Ne compared to their strong Ni makes them look serious, even if still not physically confident.
Making INxP's come off as clumsy, while INxJ's come off as frozen.)
(Didn't intend comment to be long. My bad.)
So good
Loved your take on this subject. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Thanks.