Shoreline Detectives: Explore this 1700s shipwreck in East Sussex

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
  • In East Sussex, UK, Tori and the team explore a shipwreck from the 1740s, discover a prehistoric well shaft, and investigate a harbor that took 63 years to build but only worked for four months.
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    Every day, on a sandy beach or a rocky foreshore, fascinating historical evidence appears and disappears as the tide rolls in and rolls back out again across the British coastline. Palaeontologist Dr Tori Herridge and experts from CITiZAN (the Coastal & Inter-tidal Archaeological Network) investigate the stories behind these intriguing remains. From abandoned villages, prehistoric footprints, shipwrecks, submerged forests, we follow the clues to how people have survived on the coast, how they’ve learnt to live alongside the sea. It is an archaeological race against time as Shoreline Detectives battles to capture a vanishing past for us all to see.
    Tern TV Productions/DCD Rights
    #documentary #vanishing #shipwreck

Komentáře • 76

  • @certuv
    @certuv Před měsícem +2

    I have lived in Rye since 1980 and my mother born in 1902 came from Iden her father , my grandfather, was the lock keeper where the Rother meets the Military canal. This film informed a lot about the history. Thank you for
    posting.

  • @davedavis9610
    @davedavis9610 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Thoroughly enjoyable. It was a great episode, well presented and thought out. Everyone on screen was knowledgeable and likeable. Well done to all involved.
    I'm looking forward to seeing more!
    Cheers.

  • @johncranwell3783
    @johncranwell3783 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I totally loved this thank you and stumbled the process it by accident…. I grew up just over the railway line from the Amsterdam ship wreck and all the other places mentioned were part of my childhood and early adult life before I moved away….. so totally and thoroughly interesting to learn these things that you shared. I was there on the beach the day after diggers came across the Amsterdam back in the 80s…. if I remember correctly, the contractors were digging to extend a sewer pipe when they came across the wreck of the ship…..
    Thank you for such an excellent program

  • @bevanpope7924
    @bevanpope7924 Před 3 měsíci +8

    As a missive Time Team fan… I am here for the history aspect. Looking forward to watching more episodes. The shaft is just amazing… and the ship such a treasure.
    But must say that Charlotte is rather lovely - and without a wedding band. If I was in the UK I would take her out for a coffee.

    • @helenhunter4540
      @helenhunter4540 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Bevanpop37924. You're mistaken: you weren't COMPELLED to say what you said about Charlotte; you CHOSE to say it. It is not only an unnecessary comment; it is insulting. When listening to scholars and broadcasters, respect their work and comment only on that.

  • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
    @jean-pierredeclemy7032 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Get rid of the annoying music and I might be able to hear you speaking

    • @cassieoz1702
      @cassieoz1702 Před měsícem +1

      It appears the volume of the music is determined by an interaction between CZcams itself and the platform you're watching on. Not something the uploader can control

    • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
      @jean-pierredeclemy7032 Před měsícem +2

      @@cassieoz1702 thanks, as I have to listen through headphones I am perhaps more sensitive to the sound balance. I have to have my finger poised over the mute button if I have turned the volume up to hear dialogue and know I am going to be zapped by an ad break.
      Is it really necessary to have the music?

    • @topcat32349
      @topcat32349 Před 29 dny +1

      At least it’s not like American videos that have drumming as the background ‘music’.

    • @iantowle8474
      @iantowle8474 Před 14 dny

      Great program would be better without the music

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b Před 3 měsíci +5

    I also think we need to find out who decided to build cliffs out of chalk, I bet it was some Labour council's idea.

    • @philipr1567
      @philipr1567 Před 3 měsíci +1

      No, it was the thieving Tories who spent the money on themselves and their friends instead of buying quality stone.

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men Před 2 měsíci

      @@philipr1567
      Is that why social housing
      built by Labour councils
      is the greyist, grimmest grimiest place to live,
      and where mental illness
      is so common,
      hordes of university-trained Marxists
      depend upon it
      for their very comfortable livings?
      Conservatives have faults.
      Labour has faults.
      Both
      are directed by Marxism.
      /
      we need a new system of government.
      It is coming.
      And not WEF.
      /

  • @michaelpjeffries1521
    @michaelpjeffries1521 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Wonderful presentation. I was arrested but had charges dismissed in Canterbury 1600's. Then out of Salem 1700's. It is amazing what is hidden in plain sight. Once one starts looking.

    • @danielwarren8539
      @danielwarren8539 Před 3 měsíci

      You can click/touch on the settings icon and then turn on captions.

    • @danielwarren8539
      @danielwarren8539 Před 3 měsíci

      The settings icon looks like a cog on the top right corner of the screen. I have an android phone.
      May be different on an apple?

  • @timtaylor1365
    @timtaylor1365 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Smeaton's idea of using the power of water flow to clear silt from a harbour was used successfully at Ramsgate harbour where they built an inner harbour after they found the original harbour was silting up. The inner harbour penned in the water at high tide and was released at low tide into the outer harbour, clearing the sand and silt.

    • @wmanad8479
      @wmanad8479 Před 2 měsíci

      The flow was too low to keep Rye clear, how could it be enough further away? And it appears from the contemporary map they installed locks to make that river and the other flowage into canals as well; that right there would kill any chance of a consistent current clearing silt. One wonders what were they thinking? Full at high tide, flush on the ebb?

  • @glennjames7107
    @glennjames7107 Před 2 měsíci +2

    As far as the ancient forest, where I live on the west coast of Florida, there are tree stumps in the gulf of Mexico, that I know of, in 20-25 feet of water off shore. The continental shelf here in what we call the big bend area of Florida's gulf coast is approximately 200 miles from the coast, and is very flat. Flat as in it is very shallow for quite a distance from shore.
    I've seen many tree stumps offshore in 20-30 foot of water while spear fishing.

  • @glennjames7107
    @glennjames7107 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wonderful documentary !

  • @toodles53
    @toodles53 Před 3 měsíci +5

    my dad and his brothers and friends used to go and play on this ship it was more intact then had a deck and cabin where they played pirates..

    • @bluenick4577
      @bluenick4577 Před 3 měsíci

      Not sure if it is a serious comment or not

    • @sforza209
      @sforza209 Před 3 měsíci

      @@bluenick4577why would it not be?! His dad could have been from many decades ago.

    • @lizbourn4192
      @lizbourn4192 Před 2 měsíci

      This is untrue

  • @stevefletcher7531
    @stevefletcher7531 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Interesting programme, but your sound engineer/mixer/editor needs to find a new profession

  • @user-xq6me6pd7q
    @user-xq6me6pd7q Před 3 měsíci +2

    That was a great programme. There are so many aspects of what is all around us that often becomes harder to see or understand. I live where there were many Napoleonic tunnels and forts but it has proven almost impossible to confirm the existence of some of them despite there being oddities that are visible. Perhaps its deliberate.

  • @harbourdogNL
    @harbourdogNL Před 3 měsíci +2

    This was great. Thank you.

  • @lizbourn4192
    @lizbourn4192 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I would like to ask the presenters for this programme why they didn’t consult people who live on the Sussex coast who know about the sea? I would also like to tell them that the Amsterdam wreck was first revealed in the late 1960’s and not, as they claim, in the ‘80’s It was first noticed by the people installing an offshore pipe (if I remember correctly it was a company called William Press)A group of us went down on a low tide and were excited to find odd relics from the ship (the wine that was retrieved was undrinkable!!) The wreck can only be seen at very low tides. To say that the Amsterdam sank into the sand is just not factual ……….over time the sand has built up around the ship. There’s a difference.
    Also there has not always been sinking sand by the wreck. There wasn’t in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s……….the constant movement of the sea causes the shoreline to change. This is constant and therefore the shift in sand and shingle constantly changes. It will be refreshing when these “experts” realise that they cannot rule the sea!! There have been many efforts over the ages to rule the sea - none are successful, nor will they ever be.
    Silly comments such as saying that the sea level rising and has covered forest etc., is immediately argued against by saying that Rye was once on the coast!! The sea does its own thing. I don’t see the point in these programmes put together by experts”. Who pays them for presenting less than accurate information? Save me from academics!!!

  • @aimeemorgado8715
    @aimeemorgado8715 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I found the organization of the presentation very confusing. An expensive program with very little archeological value.

  • @Innperlenburg
    @Innperlenburg Před 3 měsíci

    Brilliant programme. Thanks so much.

  • @sabbyd1832
    @sabbyd1832 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Enjoyed, thanks

    • @PattrnPlanetUs
      @PattrnPlanetUs  Před 3 měsíci

      Glad you enjoyed it! We've got some more episodes coming up.

    • @loopwithers
      @loopwithers Před 3 měsíci

      A fine documentary to introduce new viewers to how archaeology is carried out and how different specialists join together. Time does not stand still

  • @diannehardwick950
    @diannehardwick950 Před 3 měsíci

    Fascinating study. Thank you.

  • @topcat32349
    @topcat32349 Před 29 dny

    I stood on the edge of the cliffs and wondered how people would’ve gotten down to the beach. The shafts give a probable answer. Tunnel down, hit the granite, tunnel out.

  • @MarieJackson-sp3be
    @MarieJackson-sp3be Před 3 měsíci +1

    Please take care when going under cliffs that are actively eroding. And chalk is so soft! I don't want to hear in the news that four intrepid archeologists perished or were hurt while investigating shoreline archeology along the south coast of England. I am a geologist, and one day, my assistant and I were taking samples at the base of a cliff that had a slight overhang in Oklahoma. We quit when dusk came and planned to continue the next morning. When we arrived, the sampling site was buried under a cliff fail! We were sooooo lucky! Best of luck to all of you.
    LOL I thought the man in the green jacket was going to say about the 250 year old wreck south of Hastings that "if you dig down about a meter, you will find organic material...seeds, pollen, fingers..."

  • @dyannejohnson6184
    @dyannejohnson6184 Před měsícem

    I agree music really disrupts voices in places but interesting thanks

  • @bobbydazzler3067
    @bobbydazzler3067 Před 3 měsíci +2

    this is excellent. as someone whos interested in all things both nautical and historical you might say it floated my boat. do you see what i did there? lol. thanks to all the team. cant wait for more

    • @PattrnPlanetUs
      @PattrnPlanetUs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      We are glad this one put wind in your sails. 😉 We'll have some more episodes coming out soon! Stay tuned.

  • @garryburton-bz2nc
    @garryburton-bz2nc Před 3 měsíci +1

    Imagine what will be said of today's engineering fiasco's. HS2 anyone. This harbour will look like a raging success in comparison.

  • @peyps2k
    @peyps2k Před 3 měsíci +3

    Is it an old dinghy used by immigrants to cross the channel?

  • @bazra19
    @bazra19 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Please take that awful un requested music off of the video, so that I can hear what is being said, otherwise what's the point of having the video at all.

  • @johnbridger5629
    @johnbridger5629 Před 3 měsíci

    At Normans Bay there are a series of square/rectangular shapes in the shingle beach, outlined in wooden spindles, which sit between the high and low water lines. I have always wondered what these could be.

    • @Sparky68M
      @Sparky68M Před 3 měsíci

      Williams boats ! but the coast line was different then it was navigable up to Boreham bridge to the east & Hailsham way to the west.

  • @lynnpowell963
    @lynnpowell963 Před 19 dny

    Yes I agree why do you need music when someone is talking 😊

  • @milnespetchristo1882
    @milnespetchristo1882 Před měsícem

    Why is Charlotte's voice-over sooo quiet, compared to the recorded speech on the filmed portions?
    One can hardly hear what she's saying. It's so frustrating having to either turn up the volume or turn on the captions, then not be able to see the whole picture in detail.
    Poor post production editing.

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Those "wreckers" came from Sussex and Kent.

  • @floridaseminole8643
    @floridaseminole8643 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just like the country fading away

  • @sforza209
    @sforza209 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I’m sorry but I don’t agree with that statement that people would willingly allow others to carve up their buildings like that. Since sailors were ship wrecked off the coast, they probably turned the church into temp housing and was filled to the brim with sailors. I’d like to imagine someone had their bed right next to the column and spent an insomniac night withering away the ship graffiti.

  • @bazra19
    @bazra19 Před 3 měsíci

    Did Smeeton build the harbour so he could build the Beachhead Head lighthouse

  • @preonmodel9906
    @preonmodel9906 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Horrible editing going back and forth through the stories forcing the viewers to keep watching…
    I’ve got a headache

  • @kennhansen9415
    @kennhansen9415 Před 2 měsíci

    Why are all having safery jackets on???

  • @karenburke482
    @karenburke482 Před 3 měsíci

    What would the Chinese do? Master builders? The resources to reclaim it are there….think outside the box maybe?
    Create a ‘competition’ and/ or crowd source the solution needed?

  • @justinmorgan2126
    @justinmorgan2126 Před 3 měsíci +2

    THey should just call this "things I found on the beach" because there is zero archaeology going on nor is there anything of any scientific interest at all.What's the point of this TV series? Seems like the cheapest possible way to fill schedule time with some tourism fluff. Time Team it is not.

  • @M.Godfrey
    @M.Godfrey Před 2 měsíci

    1:50 fart in a jar

  • @sherrylelee8274
    @sherrylelee8274 Před 3 měsíci

    Dreadful, overbearing, raucous music spoilt this documentary 😢

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b Před 3 měsíci

    I asked these Shoreline so-called-"detectives" to find out who nicked my phone last August and they said it's not their job. So much for these so-called-"detectives".

  • @stephenjdixon1
    @stephenjdixon1 Před 3 měsíci +3

    stick to things you know something about. The sea level is not rising

    • @sforza209
      @sforza209 Před 3 měsíci

      lol. You mad? Many Polynesians will prob have a different opinion than that.

  • @colinlaird8992
    @colinlaird8992 Před 3 měsíci

    Why are all these archeology programmes always presented by women? Wokeness gone mad! Bring back the men

    • @snafufubar
      @snafufubar Před 3 měsíci

      Wokeness? What exactly do you think being "woke" is?

    • @philipr1567
      @philipr1567 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@snafufubar "woke" = doing or thinking things which offend prejudiced bigots.

    • @lpeterman
      @lpeterman Před 2 měsíci +1

      Wow, Misogynist much?

    • @colinlaird8992
      @colinlaird8992 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lpeterman not at all merely an observation of facts

    • @lpeterman
      @lpeterman Před 2 měsíci

      @@colinlaird8992 Sorry, not buying it.

  • @MrZcotty
    @MrZcotty Před 3 měsíci

    good grief. liberal educated women and kids.. great archeology..

    • @garethinkster
      @garethinkster Před 3 měsíci +2

      What on earth are you referring to?

    • @harbourdogNL
      @harbourdogNL Před 3 měsíci +3

      As opposed to men who are sad old former public school tossers? And all certainly more of an authority on the topic of shoreline archeology (sic) than you, I allow.

    • @lpeterman
      @lpeterman Před 2 měsíci

      Again, with the misogyny.

  • @MrWeedWacky
    @MrWeedWacky Před 2 měsíci

    350 people, on that small ship. wow