The way I spoke of ARA in this video made it kind of sound like Cubase doesn’t have it. I wanted to post a correction, it has had ARA for a while now and works flawlessly with Melodyne.
as for melodyne ARA integration a few daw's support it including reaper which is my daily driver. You say that S1 is the best but mixcraft actual offers a pretty identical experience to S1 with melodyne
For all the love Cubase is getting, I hope it takes a few lessons from Studio One. The way Studio One has implemented Folder Busses is incredible. Love how visually and organisationally intuitive it is. Love how when you create or move tracks into the folder busses, their colour gets automatically updated, and also the track automatically gets routed to the folder bus. Studio One also has such powerful macros. I have macros to add plugins and instruments. And I can add all my favourite plugins in such quick succession because of macros. I find Studio One's workflow a lot quicker and more intuitive than Cubase's.
Just purchased cubase 13. Went from Reaper to Cakewalk to Studio One to steinberg. Cubase easy to learn. Keep the tutorials coming. You do a great job!
@@Byron101_ Unpredictable times… I don’t want to subscribe to things and if money struggle comes, lose it all or partially if I can’t pay subscription bill… Many people will regret subscribing, I’m more than 100% confident Subscription is a legalised scam
no they didn't. perpetual is still available. and the monthly subscription has stayed the same. They have merely just added a way for subscribers to actually own the software. Incredible how many misconceptions going around
@@LCRLive687I hear you, but having to have a subscription in order to get the one new plugin they finally offer, is “going subscription” enough for me to move on and not invest any more money in studio one. 🎹♥️
Welcome to the family! I just did a video on Cubase and 3 things that makes it the best for Hip Hop/ R&B productions. There are WAY more reasons but I have been using it since Cubase 7.5 coming from Reason for the last 10 years. Cubase is SO under-rated and is a great software. I use Maschine with Cubase and my workflow is FLAWLESS. Dope vid and new sub here. Blessings!
Josh, I have been a Die Hard S1 user for years as it is one of the easiest DAWs to use on the market. But……..I must say my friend you may be on to something. I have vouched for years that nothing would pull me away from S1. Until……..I downloaded the trial of Cubase Pro 13. Man they have everything that kept me on S1. Drag and drop, VST thumbnails, and there VSTi’s are far superior than Presence and Mai Tai (even though I use Arturia, Omni, and Kontakt). I learned that S1 does not even use all of the Performance and Efficiency cores on my M1 Max chip where Cubase does. I will miss the project page though. I just wished that Impact and Groove Agent functioned like Logics DMD. If Cubase adds that feature and also a project page like S1, they will a lot of S1 users JUMPING SHIP!
I tell everyone that asks, S1 is a great DAW but for the past few years I've felt like I've hit the cap for what it can do. Not saying it's not capable of great things. A lot of hits have been produced and mixed in S1 but, after using Cubase for only a few weeks I really can't go back....... I'm ruined for other DAWs. 🤣
Yeah, Presence and MaiTai are real crap. Sample One and that bass thingy as well. S1 is good at recording Midi and outside Audio. Like a basic Cubase from 2002.
The recent demo of "Tricomp" left me nearly "typeless". That thingy has no indicators of what is happening there and where, but is actually much better done with Artutia's VCA65, which can control high and low end as well.
Presonus seems to go back to the term: Use U ears. Yes, I use ears, a digital compressor or whatever they even sell as extras, has no indication of what is happening. Cool, what? Nobody knows what is happening with these cheap compressors, which U will get when U are a slave of Presonus. Just play them by ear. And anyway, they suck. The best compressor is the stock one of Presonus: No colouring, precise control of attack, release, etc, mappable/punchable with an external calculator to the microsecond. You still need an external calculator though. Which is Middle Ages from the 9ties.
This breaks my heart because I can't deny it any longer...Im going to have to leave Studio One after 5 years. I will say this...I realized how limited the stock vsts are in S1 so I made it for it by getting Arcade, Serum, Pigments, Serato Sample, Scaler and many others just to make up for what the DAW didn't bring on its own...so Im stuck a bit but I'll def watch your Cubase Tuts!
Joshua Butler, did not mention the control room, which is awesome. I was in Fix-A-Mix, last week and the engineer mention that he forgot to deactivate SoundID in Logic, before he exported his mix. That would not have been an issue in Cubase Pro if room emulation is inserted on the control room.
Ive been using studio one for years, Tried cubase 60 day demo and holy crap the sound is so much better snd my midi drums are way tighter. Never going back to studio one
Used to be a Cubase man after ProTools through the century start. Then, annoyed by Avid’s subscription greed, like you I have been shuttling between S1, LP also looking at Reaper. Main DAW was S1 from v6 due to their massively improved video implementation. But this 6.6 update has just exposed the stench of big corporate greed so much I have to turn my back on them at last. I got on very well with S1. Their tempo mapping ability blows everyone else incl LP out of the water and I shall miss them a lot. But enough is enough. I’ll be watching your progress man to see if CB13 gets my coin. Can I go back? Is it worth relearning? We’ll see….. Liked and subbed. Good luck! 🤞 👍
I have also made the same switch recently. Indeed the EQ was the main contributor to my switch to Cubase. Let's see if Presonous will address the mid-side processing issue which indeed is disappointing not to have ....
Yes, the studio one removed all the add-ons on the store. It was clear to me that they are trying to push for subscription only in the future so I took advantage of the Steinberg sale and upgraded from 12 to 13 and I’m gonna start focusing on using cubase and wrapping my head around it.
@@Byron101_ Cubase has a lot of features but I find that I don't need all of them 99% of the time. The main workflow of Studio One I find is a lot better. Folder Busses are genius. The Macros in Studio One are legendary. I shifted to Cubase and I find I'm a lot slower.
@@5ammy13If you have an iPad or iPhone, consider getting stream deck mobile app. You can create all the shortcuts you wish. That might help speed things up. I have it and use it with studio one and logic currently, at least until I get my cubase 13 pro sorted out. 🎹♥️
Now that Cubase has all the good features (ARA, bezier curves, way more dragdrop, lower zone, audio event fx, simple browser, mono stereo button, vsti pics in browser, no dongle etc.) that made S1 great, we no longer need S1. Cubase has all this, plus much more great unique features. (former hardcore S1 user here, now back on C13 and very happy, I must say)
I'm really thankful Presonus made this transition so easy for me. 🤣 It is sad tho. I've recommended Studio One for years. Now the recommendation will be a little different.
You've switched DAWs as much as I have lol. I tried to switch to cubase 12 from S1 about the same time you were trying to a couple years ago, but I didn't last long. It's undoubtedly the most feature rich daw, but the majority of that i didnt need or use. My main gripe with it was that it was a pain to navigate around and work within the timeline. Just not very intutive. Ive owned all of the major daws now (except for logic pro now, which I might give a try at some point now that i have a macbook), and I always return to Reaper. Tho i still own S1(5), bitwig 5, and FL20, I mainly use NI Maschine as a base for crafting ideas anyhow, and it doesn't integrate very good with any of the DAWs no matter wich one im using. So I just lay ideas down in maschine software, then use it as a multi track vst inside the daw from there. Usually that's Reaper. For recording audio and mixing/mastering it's simple and straightforward, and handles CPU resources the best. Plus I love the "one type of track that can be used for anything" approach. No more dedicated instrument tracks vs, audio tracks, vs buss tracks (ect.) nonsense. This is the digital age, theres no reason for daws to have the built in limitations that analog boards had lol. And even tho Reaper sucks for midi, I use Maschine for the heavy lifting with midi anyways. I only use the DAW midi to add finishing touches here and there.
Give logic a try for sure. It’s a great DAW. Reaper is absolutely a beast. I have two friends that use it, and they swear by it and I honestly can’t argue with them because it is an awesome DAW. Cubase just checks the most boxes for myself and my workflow. And I am absolutely not a fan of a company charging me a monthly subscription for the latest updates. Referring to Presonus of course.
So I just read about the Studio One 6.6 update. Looks like Fender are structuring a new subscription model. I'll have a podcast on my thoughts tomorrow. What do you folks think of it? 🤨
I am a + user, and yesterday i got an email saying the subscription has changed, and that i now have the option to upgrade to the new subscription model. So i think if i do nothing, my old subscription will go on as it was/is. My reason for the subscription is that it takes me about 3 yrs to pay the same amount that i would if i payed at once, and that i don't have to pay for all the updates and add-ons that come out in the mean time. If i also had to pay for that it would take me about 5 yrs in subscription to pay the same amount. And there's gonna be a lot of updates in 5 yrs..
The darn new instrument subscription, the shitty addons subscription, 99% of the "features" in the last update is just interaction of fees and licenses between financial departments of other companies. the library is ANCIENT!! this is the end for S1, and ive been with them for a decade almost
@@eddiexx I’m right there with you. Agree 100% I’ve used S1 for almost a decade also and now I have to subscribe to get new features that should have been added years ago??? No thank you. lol
I've been trying out various DAWs for the engine's audio quality. I thought Cubase sounded the best... until I fired up Studio One. Clearest of them all (in my opinion). However, it could depend on the particular track - what it wants - the genre, your taste in how things should sound, etc. I do really like Cubase though.
It’s funny how you flip-flopped, I’ve done the same. I’ve gone back-and-forth and realized a couple weeks ago that Cubas just has so much more than studio one. The latest 6.6 release strategy just put the final nail in the coffin.
I had 5 weeks left of my 60 day trial and didn't even need it to make a decision. 😁 Just in time to. The new 6.6 update for studio one makes it VERY clear what direction Fender are taking Presonus. And I'm not a fan of it.
@@joshuabutlermusic ha that’s what’s up. I’ve always wanted cubase since version 5 or something back then. But like you I see the direction Presonus seems to be headed and I’m not going for the ride with that either. Ah well. We still gonna make great music.
I had the 880, then two 2480’s synced together. They were cool. Then I tried reason on a pc. Wanted to try pro tools so I got a mac. Went from pt to logic, to s1, now on to cubase. 🎹♥️
man do the comparation video! I Starrted with Cubase 5, then i changed t presonus and love it but i dont know why working in big track porjects makes Studio One son unstable. and cubase never give me problems with that. Im seriously thinking back to cubase
I have both Studio One Artist and Cubase LE 13. As much as I loved the interface in the presonus software, Steinberg's is so much more flexible, and for film scoring, there are some valuable tools. I'm scoring a trailer for a contest using my LE 13 because Studio One Artist doesn't have video support, which is dumb. Hope I can upgrade quickly my Cubase to Pro or even Artist, but yeah, i'm definitely sticking with it.
Crazy how everyone is freaking and leaving for no real good reason. This was some good justification though. I used Cubase for 11 years and switched to S1 because it's so much easier to use, and lighter on the CPU. Enjoy your dongle.
just discovered Spectralayers audio restauration editing and auto audio alignment tool in Cubase 13. unique and amazing! Luv it so far. (maybe as inspiration for a next vid?)
And it is unfortunate. S1 has been a great DAW for myself and a lot of producer friends. This is what happens when a person who knows nothing about artists tries to run a company based around said artists. It never works out for anybody.
I’ve said this in many of my comments, it’s sad after using Studio one for 10 years. It’s an amazing DAW, but unfortunately fender is dropping the ball.
It would be good to see if anything in Cubase has anything resembling the patterns in Studio One, cos making electronic music I find the patterns super handy for quick variations.
Welcome to Cubase my friend. Cubase actually does support ARA with melodyne as well as Sythesizer V. yes, the chord track can be a huge time saver. There are also chord pads which I only recently discovered and now I used them. I still need to play the chords the real way first to see what inversions I might want to use but those can be programmed into the chord pads too. You will discover that Cubase is excellent for both MIDI and mixing. You won't need two DAWs anymore and the majority of the stock plugins are every bit as good as Frequency EQ. You get several of each thing too. There are like 6 EQs, Compressors etc.
Ohhh dude- I really hope you mean what you say!! I am a first time noob in the world of D.A.W.S and midi keyboards!! I write songs and am totally solo in the music world . I bought Cubase 13pro and oxygen pro 61 midi and clueless on both- like they are foreign and Im blind, but I am trying to figure how from scratch how to even get started, how to record my music...its all overwhelming and intimidating! I got no one to help me at all! I just subbed to your channel- really hoping to learn how to use it by watching you and hopefully learn how to upload my first song thru distrokid someday!! Im so out of my realm in all this, but will watch and see what I learn from you! Can you do fischer Price instructional videos for first time noobs pleaze😁🤞✨️
So many DAWs out there. I initially started with a list of FL Studio, Ableton, Logic Pro, Studio One, and Cubase. FL Studio and Ableton don't have score editors, so I had to eliminate them. Logic Pro is Apple only and I only have a laptop and tablet from them. I can connect my laptop to a monitor, but do I really want to go that route? Studio One is still being highly considered, but I wish that they invested more in the acoustic instruments. Cubase has really nice acoustics, but the UI is trash. People say that it's loaded with features, but it appears that Studio One has everything that I need.
Cubase is excellent. I used it and Nuendo for years. Love them both. But now I use Reaper. Haven’t noticed anything significantly different except the update prices and copy protection. That said, I love Steinberg products. Groove Agent is a monster. Use it all the time. Enjoy.
There are some great free and/or cheap vst's on the market, for instance the Ozone EQ, and instruments like Vital. Cherry Audio has some great stuff too.. So, i don't mind using 3rd party plugins that are free, or cheap, and work great! For the workflow i think i'll stick to S1. But that's just my opinion.
If you already own another DAW, Steinberg offer a competitive crossgrade option to buy Cubase Pro 13. With the current 30% April sale on top of that, you can grab the full version of Cubase 13 for €250. That's what sold me. The audio warping and and Vocalign-like features of Cubase shall nicely complement my cherished FL Studio 21.
@@joshuabutlermusic Nice! I got mine for €249. It was the cheapest retailer I could find in Europe. Yeah I'm literally not missing any feature now, though I gotta say I'm not a huge fan of Cubase's GUI. Coming from FL which is beautiful (just like Logic), it's quite jarring. Tbh once FL gets all the missing features (which it will eventually), it's game over for other DAWs. Free updates for life is a huge win.
I've made my decision that my 2nd DAW is going to be Cubase 13 Elements / Cubase 13 Artist. It's been quite a hot minute to make my final decision to choose the perfect 2nd DAW along with Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio. I've though out using Reaper 7, Cakewalk, Waveform 13 Free, Studio One 6.6, Magix Music Maker. But Cubase 13 Elements was the one to go for. I'm definitely looking forward to trying out in the foreseeable future, If all goes well. Then the Elements version will be 2nd primary DAW. Then later down the pipeline. I'll upgrade to Cubase 13 Artist, The Artist version has unlimited MIDI, Audio & Instrument tracks. Studio One will try it's best to outlast Cubase. And it's my own opinion, Cubase 13 blows Studio One 6.6 out the window.
I get it. I was torn between Cubase and S1 and finally decided on S1 because of the price and a few workflow preferences in S1 I prefer - pitch/stretch algos are set by track and not by event which saves a lot of time and frustration, event fx with macros work with shortcuts (instantly adding specific plugins on an event selection), Cubase has a bit of a cumbersome method with regards to this. folders converted to busses and tracks nested neatly underneath the busses is another S1 feature I can't live without. the S1 inspector fader, inserts are huge when stretched open and the cubase inspector is underwhelming in this regard since I mix in the arranger window. coming from reaper I don't even consider built in plugins or virtual instruments. there are a bunch of buggy or weird workflow things I really don't like about S1 though. I really dislike the fact that cubase change the event/item/region color when moving it - it's like a flash and then I wonder, did it move or not - weird. all that said, I probably would've gone with Cubase if not for the price since I really like variaudio and have an emotional connection with cubase since I worked with it for many years in other studios.
One thing I say to people who ask about Reaper all the time...... It's the most stable DAW that will pretty much run on a potato and run very well on said potato. If you have your own collection of virtual instruments and plug-ins you really can't go wrong with it. I just REALLY like the chord track and the alignment tool along with a bunch of other features Cubase has. I can talk trash about a lot of different DAWs but reaper is not one of them. It does what it does and is very reliable.
@@joshuabutlermusicEnd of last year I was on a mission to switch to Cubase 13 because of the Splice rent to own model as well as (most importantly) the built-in alignment feature. I was still on trial and tested the alignment feature with an old project's vocals and it worked great. Then, on the day when I wanted to use it for an actual edit/mix, for some inexplicable reason, the alignment feature did not work. It added the stretch markers and moved them, but it was totally out of time making it worse. I made sure I did it right and tried again and again... Needless to say, it felt like a great loss since I was counting on this feature to speed up my workflow and without dependability, I closed Cubase on the spot and went back to Reaper (which I have abandoned now not because there is anything wrong with Reaper but for personal reasons).
I came back to music production via Cubase 10 pro, I look forward to seeing you learn and show us things I may have missed. Cubase is a very powerful DAW... I am running Cubase Pro 13.0.30 and I love it...
Im at REASON 12 , now i had a look at UA LUNA .. it was good .. but having a trial wtih Cubase 13 Pro and it has some good sounds ..but its a bit expensive .. may go with the Artist ... and later upgrade
Not me, man. Too much time invested with Studio One, STILL an overall awesome, top notch product. Cubase is also a great product and much of the differences between them are trully nuance and workflow preferences....in other words, what you get used to. So you do you, but your complaints here seem a little contrived by the Steinberg marketing department.
Been a Cubase user since SX3. Reason I'll nevers switch is because Cubase has everything I need stock. Auto-Vocal alignment. Other DAW's you need to purchase vocalign. Vari-audio. Other DAW's use third party companies to integrate pitch editing. Control Room feature, Batch export, the list really goes on.
Presonus just killed S1 IMO with the new purchase / subscription model. I have a podcast I'm recording tomorrow going over how I think it will be the end of Studio One for a lot of people.
@@joshuabutlermusic It won't be the end of S1, if people don't like the subscription stuff they will just change it. That's what they all do. Just like Waves. Everybody cried about waves subscription model, and they changed it. I wouldn't leave a DAW that works great just for that.
@@kennybarnes9055 I didn’t leave Studio one because of this happening with the subscription model. I made the decision before 6.6 come out. Presonus is owned by Fender who is run by a CEO who only cares about the quarterly report and doesn’t care at all about innovation and making S1 better. I predicted this when Fender first bought pre-Sonus and unfortunately It looks like I was correct. They do not want you to pay one time for a license that some people will keep for 10 years when they can charge you $180 a year for as long as they can.
@@joshuabutlermusic tbh the only issue with what they did was locking a new plugin behind the subscription, not the models themself. there is a already a perpetual model if you want that. people that have an issue with the hybrid non-updating subscription isnt really thinking. i mean you have the full license version for 399. why would you pay for that if you can pay only 179 for a year of all the goods and a perpetual license that could update through the next version. imagine version 7 comes out right before your subscription ends and you cancel. that means if it was updating you would basically have the new version for 2+ years until version 8 comes out while people that had a perpetual license for version 6 would have to pay for an upgrade to 7
@@grimeyneedle1527 I understand where you’re coming from but my gut tells me they are going to charge a subscription for any new virtual instrument or any new plug-in they come out with.
Presonus still offers perpetual licenses but will warn you though, nearly every software company is going subscription which you can't run away from. Once Steinberg starts offering subscriptions are you going to keep running to the next DAW?
Yeah, I should have mentioned that in the video. The ARA in cubase is on point and I've had no issues with Melodyne. I will say, when Varipitch has polyphonic I'll probably never use Melodyne in a session. lol
@@joshuabutlermusic 🙂 yeah I prefer variaudio as well I like that with pitch snapping that you can make vocal harmonies. Cubase has so many ways to do different workflows it’s flexible to suit anyone’s workflow, but I’m glad you’re enjoying it 👍🏾🔥🔥💯
Subscribed 🎉 I'm relatively new to Cubase too. After trying the 60 day trial, I was SOLD. Now, that I'm a full-blown Cubase user, I'm trying to find the best content to learn alongside. Let's do this! 🙌
As I learn it's little tricks and how it's different from S1/Logic I'll be making a lot of comparison videos. Going to be a fun journey. I've been loving Cubase so far. 😁
I love the subscription model, 15$ a month for a great DAW all included. Great deal. I also like Cubase, and Nuendo, but im not seeing myself changing any time soon.
Oh, a quick videographer tip: consider framing yourself so your head is close to the top of the frame. That's how the pros do it. One reason is because, being lower in the frame makes a person look short. It also shows a distracting background in the shot. PS your color and clarity look great! Carry on! 😎
I've been a Cubase user for several years. I've used Pro Tools before, but I always ended up back in Cubase. Realistically, any DAW is fine as long as you understand how your plugins work and what workflow you like. The biggest turn off for me would be the whole subscription stuff for DAWs, like what Pro Tools is doing and now Studio One. It may not be great for hobbyists, but might be fine if you're already doing audio for a living or make enough money to cover the monthly or yearly cost to have everything up to date with your DAW. In terms of ARA, I'm sure other DAWs may do it better. If anything, I think the ARA Vocalign is better than the stock audio alignment in Cubase. I'm always editing vocals with Variaudio.
Cubase is so old, honestly I have the license of cubase and studio one, logic, pro tools. but now my favorite is Studio one. it is bug free and most stable on Macos. Integrated melodyne. quality sound. There is no reason for me to use cubase anymore. Every time I open cubase I feel 30 years older 😂
Man I downloaded C13 because of your journey to try it out. But seriously this thing looks so ugly that I cannot imagine making music with this. I don't mind if it has maybe more feature than S1. I will anyway try it out and see whether I can get used to it. What was your first impression when you opened C13 up?
@@warlanefam i’ve been researching it all day and Presonus is very vague about the whole situation, but I read through the FAQ and it’s not great for Studio one users.
So i just switched from Logic to S1 because it's just so much easier to work with samples on studio one. Literally put in the bpm and it gets time stretched automatically, i can keep changing the tempo and that baby does everything on its own. I do a lot of remixes so that is a lifesaver. Does cubase have something similar with audio stretching? I'm intrigued by all the comments.
@@dronbanaCubase's fast and easy SamplerTrack is one of my favorite sounddesign tools now! Can't live without this and Groove Agent drummer (try GA pattern mode: dragdrop midi beats in every direction!)
Cubase is feature rich with bolted on features that dont sit in harmony with its core. It has great features and can do almost everything but feels like a dinasour in so many aspects. I still prefer Studio One if I had to choose one of them. I moved to Bitwig a year ago and never looked back. Missing some things from more mature feature rich DAW's perhaps but there is very little you can't do in it due to the modulation and routing flexibility. the Bitwig workflow is also on a different planet.
Your vids have been great on this topic - I was on S1 5 Artist, and have switched over to Cubase 13 Pro recently - there's no reasonable way to upgrade from 5 Artist to 6 Artist or Professional. I would have to buy a new 6 Artist licence. I found that to be questionable. It's not the only reason I switched though. I trialled Cubase 13 Pro on a whim and initially hated all the pop-up windows but quickly found my way around that and think it's actually really good for dual monitors. Long story short, similar paths, seeing these vids and then this one now as I've basically decided to fully commit to Cubase 13 Pro is timely. A couple of things in Cubase stood out to me - it has ARA integration - in this video, you mentioned Cubase has VariAudio and it's own VocAlign thing, which it does, but if you're more comfortable with Melodyne or VocAlign specifically - enable the Extension for them in the bar up near the top of the screen (it's like the 3rd bar down, at the far right). That will let you choose whatever ARA plugin you want, and you can use them just as you did in Studio One. Super cool. You can also bring up these same extensions in the tracks inspector tab by hitting the little arrow next to the track name to expand it. Being able to rearrange where the arranger track is feels like a game-changer itself.. maybe Studio One allows for this, but I haven't figured it out.. in Cubase, it's as simple as dragging the arranger track to where I want. This already feels super handy for me, as someone that prefers to one-shot most of my recordings. It's nice to put the arranger track directly above the instrument I'm recording - in Studio One, I had issues with visibility of the arranger track, when there was a lot of tracks and other things I might have had up. The multi-tap delay in Cubase is fantastic. I absolutely love it. I vastly prefer the channel strip in Cubase - being able to easily rearrange the order is handy af, IDK how to do this in S1 (if it's possible?), but in Cubase it was simple, you just.. move them around, lol. I could also be wrong on this but Cubase has built-in, easy to see and use meters - no additional plugins required for keeping tabs on loudness/LUFs etc.. I haven't explored the control room aspect much yet.. ..there's just a lot to love in Cubase 13 Pro, and it seems to better suit my workflow. Enjoyed the vid. Actually wished it was a bit longer and went more in-depth on the differences and things you like/dislike when comparing the two, but realistically that could be a vid that goes for hours. lol. EDIT: ofc now that I've written the above, I've had Cubase 13 Pro crash on me multiple times today. cool.
i have made the switch today im following you due to my own reasons studio one plush things and they are lazy from improving their sound library and vocal editing features like pitch correct and i find myself going back to third party plugins
Things i like about cubase are that its been there right from the 1990s with Pro Tools, every other DAW is trying to be Pro Tools or Cubase its that simple. Cubase is owned by Yamaha, so the stability of the future roadmap is in the hands of a multi billion $$$ company a music company, not an interest finance group like Pro tools. Cubase obviously doesn't appeal to the beat making, EDM,Trap, hip-hop, Drill community like FL Studio and Ableton, it leans more to people mixing Guitar music and composing, but People are waking up to Cubase as a final destination to mix in, a lot of people are coming around to Cubase after years of being in other DAWS and there getting better mixes from Cubase. I think Cubase will spearhead using AI as well, seeing as Steinberg Backbone utilised AI technology, Cubase is open to have more AI tools in the future.
I agree with EVERYTHING you just said. Steinberg is one of the original DAWs that have been around since the beginning of computer based recording. When Yamaha purchased them way back in 2004 It just gave them the capital to dominate the industry. It's a DAW made for creative artists and not just "Beat Makers" And I love that.
I started out on cubase in the early 90s, well actually pro 24 then on to cubase, nether the less, Studio One in my experience is the best DAW for the future , the updates and tutorials are awesome. People forget that Presonus, like Avid or Steinberg are all commercial companies, for profit. Times are hard and im sure even presonus employees are feeling the pinch. Good luck on your cubase adventure , im staying right here with studio one.
Let's hope that they 're exam the model and make it proficient for both licenced users and those that think they can benefit from a lifelong subscription in the hope thet things don't turn out drastic like the company selling to Bandlab.
Though I like Cubase more, but did you check splitter in S1? You can make midi/side Eq with Splitter, save as a preset and be done. Also Splitter splits by frequency up to 5 as I remember and you can sidechain in each band.
A lot of my S1 friends keep a preset for that but I just want a button on my stock EQ that I can click. And being able to side chain each frequency dynamic is Fab Filter Pro Q3 level stuff.
I’d also mention studio one has got one of the poorest performance on apple chips. I’m a Studio One use and this makes me really upset. They’ve had ample time to optimise but they don’t prioritise it.
I tried protools ( the worst imo ), reaper was okay, ableton was okay, studio one seemed better, then finally landed on Cubase. It just felt easier for me to use. The options and hotkeys, plugins, sounds and overall look for me was best. I will admit, i still dont know how to fully use it, but I will gladly say I am happy. The worst one was protools. It just felt so oudated and bland, like eating the worlds driest chicken with no sauce
In the preferences you can change the meters, audio waves colors, midi waves color, channel and bottom colors and the entire daw color if that what you mean
I'm testing Cubase 13 atm... One interesting thing... It may be something with my system, but... I'm running Cubase 13 all day long with few virtual instruments and every time I come back and hit the key, it plays... On same system, this was not possible with S1 because it would just freeze if left idle for a period of time and only way to fix it is hard restart... Windows 10
After 3 months with S1 it's too much of an uphill battle. Many great things, but very basic (important) things like undo, recording midi in time (not early) and midi quantize all do not really work correctly. Frustrating to say the least and huge time wasters. I tested Cubase today and all these functions work perfectly. I am seriously considering jumping ship and getting Cubase (in spite of the quirks) since arranging should not be hindered by essential broken functionality.
I like to side-chain my bass guitars or sub basses at 80hz and below and have my kick drum "duck" the frequency. So it ducks the frequency and not the volume of the kick itself. It's different for every situation of course but it makes a lot of room for the kick to cut thru without making the mix muddy or "cluttered" sounding. You can do the same thing with the FabFilter Pro Q 3.
I've never heard of a producer with DECADES of studio experience under his belt completely defend or dismiss a DAW because of a stock plugin. EVER. Generally they use a DAW because of personal workflow or because that DAW is the standard tool of choice where they work. Imagine an engineer getting flustered in the middle of a busy session because the stock EQ in Pro Tools can't accomplish what he wanted in a mix (and also, his forgetting about the $20K worth of 3rd party plugins in his FX folder. Pssst... Fabfilter, anyone?).
Subscription daw's are killing music production I switched from reason studio cause of this to ableton live never been more happier but looks like it's becoming a trend sad
I really hope the trend of subscription stops. It's trying to become the new normal and I will NOT accept that. Call me old fashioned in my 30's but I like the days of actually OWNING what I pay for and not being shorthanded on features because I will not pay a subscription.
The way I spoke of ARA in this video made it kind of sound like Cubase doesn’t have it. I wanted to post a correction, it has had ARA for a while now and works flawlessly with Melodyne.
no need to melodyne in Cubase, it has native similar futures
@@isaimexico only monophonic currently.
as for melodyne ARA integration a few daw's support it including reaper which is my daily driver. You say that S1 is the best but mixcraft actual offers a pretty identical experience to S1 with melodyne
For all the love Cubase is getting, I hope it takes a few lessons from Studio One. The way Studio One has implemented Folder Busses is incredible. Love how visually and organisationally intuitive it is. Love how when you create or move tracks into the folder busses, their colour gets automatically updated, and also the track automatically gets routed to the folder bus. Studio One also has such powerful macros. I have macros to add plugins and instruments. And I can add all my favourite plugins in such quick succession because of macros. I find Studio One's workflow a lot quicker and more intuitive than Cubase's.
helll yeahhhh !
I LOVE Cubase, I've been using it for over 25 years! WELCOME ABOARD!
You made the same DAW journey I made. I was a Studio One user for about 3 years and then I made the switch to Cubase and have never looked back.
Just purchased cubase 13. Went from Reaper to Cakewalk to Studio One to steinberg. Cubase easy to learn. Keep the tutorials coming. You do a great job!
They went subscribtion, I went steinberg… Simple
Presonus went subscription in the next years. one can assume that. These are simply different times.
@@Byron101_ Unpredictable times… I don’t want to subscribe to things and if money struggle comes, lose it all or partially if I can’t pay subscription bill…
Many people will regret subscribing, I’m more than 100% confident
Subscription is a legalised scam
no they didn't. perpetual is still available. and the monthly subscription has stayed the same. They have merely just added a way for subscribers to actually own the software. Incredible how many misconceptions going around
@@LCRLive687I hear you, but having to have a subscription in order to get the one new plugin they finally offer, is “going subscription” enough for me to move on and not invest any more money in studio one. 🎹♥️
Ditto. 🎹♥️
Welcome to the family! I just did a video on Cubase and 3 things that makes it the best for Hip Hop/ R&B productions. There are WAY more reasons but I have been using it since Cubase 7.5 coming from Reason for the last 10 years. Cubase is SO under-rated and is a great software. I use Maschine with Cubase and my workflow is FLAWLESS. Dope vid and new sub here. Blessings!
Josh, I have been a Die Hard S1 user for years as it is one of the easiest DAWs to use on the market. But……..I must say my friend you may be on to something. I have vouched for years that nothing would pull me away from S1. Until……..I downloaded the trial of Cubase Pro 13. Man they have everything that kept me on S1. Drag and drop, VST thumbnails, and there VSTi’s are far superior than Presence and Mai Tai (even though I use Arturia, Omni, and Kontakt). I learned that S1 does not even use all of the Performance and Efficiency cores on my M1 Max chip where Cubase does. I will miss the project page though. I just wished that Impact and Groove Agent functioned like Logics DMD. If Cubase adds that feature and also a project page like S1, they will a lot of S1 users JUMPING SHIP!
I tell everyone that asks, S1 is a great DAW but for the past few years I've felt like I've hit the cap for what it can do. Not saying it's not capable of great things. A lot of hits have been produced and mixed in S1 but, after using Cubase for only a few weeks I really can't go back....... I'm ruined for other DAWs. 🤣
Studio one has literally stolen almost every feature from Cubase, so it makes sense 😂
Yeah, Presence and MaiTai are real crap. Sample One and that bass thingy as well.
S1 is good at recording Midi and outside Audio.
Like a basic Cubase from 2002.
The recent demo of "Tricomp" left me nearly "typeless".
That thingy has no indicators of what is happening there and where, but is actually much better done with Artutia's VCA65, which can control high and low end as well.
Presonus seems to go back to the term: Use U ears. Yes, I use ears, a digital compressor or whatever they even sell as extras, has no indication of what is happening. Cool, what?
Nobody knows what is happening with these cheap compressors, which U will get when U are a slave of Presonus. Just play them by ear. And anyway, they suck.
The best compressor is the stock one of Presonus: No colouring, precise control of attack, release, etc, mappable/punchable with an external calculator to the microsecond. You still need an external calculator though. Which is Middle Ages from the 9ties.
This breaks my heart because I can't deny it any longer...Im going to have to leave Studio One after 5 years. I will say this...I realized how limited the stock vsts are in S1 so I made it for it by getting Arcade, Serum, Pigments, Serato Sample, Scaler and many others just to make up for what the DAW didn't bring on its own...so Im stuck a bit but I'll def watch your Cubase Tuts!
Finally! Cubase a very good DAW I think highly underrated .
Joshua Butler, did not mention the control room, which is awesome. I was in Fix-A-Mix, last week and the engineer mention that he forgot to deactivate SoundID in Logic, before he exported his mix. That would not have been an issue in Cubase Pro if room emulation is inserted on the control room.
I've been testing it out and learning how to use it. It's amazing so far. Yet another feature I won't be able to go without from now on. lol
Ive been using studio one for years, Tried cubase 60 day demo and holy crap the sound is so much better snd my midi drums are way tighter. Never going back to studio one
I totally agree!! My hihats sound way better!!
@@85ndombeDo you mean sonically or rhythmically, when you say sounds better? 🎹♥️
Cubase is also ARA compatible. I use Melodyne and spectral layers. They work effortlessly!
S1 is ARA too
I was going to point that out, but you beat me to it!
Yeah I should have mentioned that. My wording was a little off. Lol I love Melodyne in Cubase.
Switched from logic to Cubase ✨ loving it Cubase rules ✨
Used to be a Cubase man after ProTools through the century start. Then, annoyed by Avid’s subscription greed, like you I have been shuttling between S1, LP also looking at Reaper. Main DAW was S1 from v6 due to their massively improved video implementation. But this 6.6 update has just exposed the stench of big corporate greed so much I have to turn my back on them at last. I got on very well with S1. Their tempo mapping ability blows everyone else incl LP out of the water and I shall miss them a lot. But enough is enough. I’ll be watching your progress man to see if CB13 gets my coin. Can I go back? Is it worth relearning? We’ll see….. Liked and subbed. Good luck! 🤞 👍
I have also made the same switch recently. Indeed the EQ was the main contributor to my switch to Cubase. Let's see if Presonous will address the mid-side processing issue which indeed is disappointing not to have ....
Yes, the studio one removed all the add-ons on the store. It was clear to me that they are trying to push for subscription only in the future so I took advantage of the Steinberg sale and upgraded from 12 to 13 and I’m gonna start focusing on using cubase and wrapping my head around it.
I'm about to have a lot of Cubase content on my channel. 😁
Same here. 🎹♥️
I ain't going nowhere...Studio One is where it's at!
Yes... That's what I thought at first too, until I tested Cubase 13.
@@Byron101_ Cubase has a lot of features but I find that I don't need all of them 99% of the time. The main workflow of Studio One I find is a lot better. Folder Busses are genius. The Macros in Studio One are legendary. I shifted to Cubase and I find I'm a lot slower.
@@5ammy13If you have an iPad or iPhone, consider getting stream deck mobile app. You can create all the shortcuts you wish. That might help speed things up. I have it and use it with studio one and logic currently, at least until I get my cubase 13 pro sorted out. 🎹♥️
Then please tell me how you can add note names to the piano roll in Studio One (not the drum view, but the piano roll)
@@bioburden I believe zooming in vertically on your piano roll may work. 🎹♥️
Now that Cubase has all the good features (ARA, bezier curves, way more dragdrop, lower zone, audio event fx, simple browser, mono stereo button, vsti pics in browser, no dongle etc.) that made S1 great, we no longer need S1. Cubase has all this, plus much more great unique features.
(former hardcore S1 user here, now back on C13 and very happy, I must say)
I'll always miss the good days of S1 but man........ This Cubase Pro 13 is on another level. 😁
The v6.6 update is a great opportunity to learn new daws.
I'm really thankful Presonus made this transition so easy for me. 🤣 It is sad tho. I've recommended Studio One for years. Now the recommendation will be a little different.
@@joshuabutlermusic Ya. I've been using it since v3 and I was praising about the workflow for years. They ruined it all.
You've switched DAWs as much as I have lol. I tried to switch to cubase 12 from S1 about the same time you were trying to a couple years ago, but I didn't last long. It's undoubtedly the most feature rich daw, but the majority of that i didnt need or use. My main gripe with it was that it was a pain to navigate around and work within the timeline. Just not very intutive. Ive owned all of the major daws now (except for logic pro now, which I might give a try at some point now that i have a macbook), and I always return to Reaper. Tho i still own S1(5), bitwig 5, and FL20, I mainly use NI Maschine as a base for crafting ideas anyhow, and it doesn't integrate very good with any of the DAWs no matter wich one im using. So I just lay ideas down in maschine software, then use it as a multi track vst inside the daw from there. Usually that's Reaper. For recording audio and mixing/mastering it's simple and straightforward, and handles CPU resources the best. Plus I love the "one type of track that can be used for anything" approach. No more dedicated instrument tracks vs, audio tracks, vs buss tracks (ect.) nonsense. This is the digital age, theres no reason for daws to have the built in limitations that analog boards had lol. And even tho Reaper sucks for midi, I use Maschine for the heavy lifting with midi anyways. I only use the DAW midi to add finishing touches here and there.
Give logic a try for sure. It’s a great DAW. Reaper is absolutely a beast. I have two friends that use it, and they swear by it and I honestly can’t argue with them because it is an awesome DAW. Cubase just checks the most boxes for myself and my workflow. And I am absolutely not a fan of a company charging me a monthly subscription for the latest updates. Referring to Presonus of course.
So I just read about the Studio One 6.6 update. Looks like Fender are structuring a new subscription model. I'll have a podcast on my thoughts tomorrow. What do you folks think of it? 🤨
hybrid looks cool at first but then after the subscription, they forbid updates (even minor bug fixes!) so it made me consider seriously C13 too
@@fab672000 they are calling them “point” updates…… this is a topic I’m bringing up in my podcast tomorrow. I hate seeing presonus go down this path.
I am a + user, and yesterday i got an email saying the subscription has changed, and that i now have the option to upgrade to the new subscription model. So i think if i do nothing, my old subscription will go on as it was/is. My reason for the subscription is that it takes me about 3 yrs to pay the same amount that i would if i payed at once, and that i don't have to pay for all the updates and add-ons that come out in the mean time. If i also had to pay for that it would take me about 5 yrs in subscription to pay the same amount. And there's gonna be a lot of updates in 5 yrs..
The darn new instrument subscription, the shitty addons subscription, 99% of the "features" in the last update is just interaction of fees and licenses between financial departments of other companies. the library is ANCIENT!! this is the end for S1, and ive been with them for a decade almost
@@eddiexx I’m right there with you. Agree 100% I’ve used S1 for almost a decade also and now I have to subscribe to get new features that should have been added years ago??? No thank you. lol
I've been trying out various DAWs for the engine's audio quality. I thought Cubase sounded the best... until I fired up Studio One. Clearest of them all (in my opinion). However, it could depend on the particular track - what it wants - the genre, your taste in how things should sound, etc. I do really like Cubase though.
I've been a Studio One user since Oct 28, 2011. I was a Pro Tools user before that. I'm looking over the fence for other DAW options, currently.
Why?
I did the same move 4 months ago. And im very happy with Cubase. Still struggling a bit on Cubase but I'll get there
It's been a learning curve for sure but I truly see the power that it has and it's completely worth it IMO.
It’s funny how you flip-flopped, I’ve done the same. I’ve gone back-and-forth and realized a couple weeks ago that Cubas just has so much more than studio one. The latest 6.6 release strategy just put the final nail in the coffin.
welcome 😎 been using Cubase for 2 yrs now.
This is the exact move I just did. Got cubase 13 pro on sale and not looking back.
I had 5 weeks left of my 60 day trial and didn't even need it to make a decision. 😁 Just in time to. The new 6.6 update for studio one makes it VERY clear what direction Fender are taking Presonus. And I'm not a fan of it.
@@joshuabutlermusic ha that’s what’s up. I’ve always wanted cubase since version 5 or something back then. But like you I see the direction Presonus seems to be headed and I’m not going for the ride with that either. Ah well. We still gonna make great music.
I gotta say I've been loving Cubase 13
I started with the Roland VS 880 in 96’ then I went to Cakewalk then to Cubase now Studio One… Looking forward to some good Cubase tutorials…
I had the 880, then two 2480’s synced together. They were cool. Then I tried reason on a pc. Wanted to try pro tools so I got a mac. Went from pt to logic, to s1, now on to cubase. 🎹♥️
man do the comparation video! I Starrted with Cubase 5, then i changed t presonus and love it but i dont know why working in big track porjects makes Studio One son unstable.
and cubase never give me problems with that. Im seriously thinking back to cubase
I have both Studio One Artist and Cubase LE 13. As much as I loved the interface in the presonus software, Steinberg's is so much more flexible, and for film scoring, there are some valuable tools. I'm scoring a trailer for a contest using my LE 13 because Studio One Artist doesn't have video support, which is dumb. Hope I can upgrade quickly my Cubase to Pro or even Artist, but yeah, i'm definitely sticking with it.
Crazy how everyone is freaking and leaving for no real good reason. This was some good justification though. I used Cubase for 11 years and switched to S1 because it's so much easier to use, and lighter on the CPU. Enjoy your dongle.
just discovered Spectralayers audio restauration editing and auto audio alignment tool in Cubase 13. unique and amazing! Luv it so far.
(maybe as inspiration for a next vid?)
I have planned special layers and audio alignment for future videos.
Still on S1, but the 6.6 subscription push leaves a bad taste.
One of my worries when Fender bought Presonus... I really wished they'd have left it alone the way it was... They went the way of greed...
And it is unfortunate. S1 has been a great DAW for myself and a lot of producer friends. This is what happens when a person who knows nothing about artists tries to run a company based around said artists. It never works out for anybody.
switched from cubase to s1 years ago. might be going back now
I’ve said this in many of my comments, it’s sad after using Studio one for 10 years. It’s an amazing DAW, but unfortunately fender is dropping the ball.
It would be good to see if anything in Cubase has anything resembling the patterns in Studio One, cos making electronic music I find the patterns super handy for quick variations.
Welcome to Cubase my friend. Cubase actually does support ARA with melodyne as well as Sythesizer V. yes, the chord track can be a huge time saver. There are also chord pads which I only recently discovered and now I used them. I still need to play the chords the real way first to see what inversions I might want to use but those can be programmed into the chord pads too. You will discover that Cubase is excellent for both MIDI and mixing. You won't need two DAWs anymore and the majority of the stock plugins are every bit as good as Frequency EQ. You get several of each thing too. There are like 6 EQs, Compressors etc.
Ohhh dude- I really hope you mean what you say!!
I am a first time noob in the world of D.A.W.S and midi keyboards!!
I write songs and am totally solo in the music world . I bought Cubase 13pro and oxygen pro 61 midi and clueless on both- like they are foreign and Im blind, but I am trying to figure how from scratch how to even get started, how to record my music...its all overwhelming and intimidating! I got no one to help me at all!
I just subbed to your channel- really hoping to learn how to use it by watching you and hopefully learn how to upload my first song thru distrokid someday!! Im so out of my realm in all this, but will watch and see what I learn from you!
Can you do fischer Price instructional videos for first time noobs pleaze😁🤞✨️
So many DAWs out there. I initially started with a list of FL Studio, Ableton, Logic Pro, Studio One, and Cubase.
FL Studio and Ableton don't have score editors, so I had to eliminate them.
Logic Pro is Apple only and I only have a laptop and tablet from them. I can connect my laptop to a monitor, but do I really want to go that route?
Studio One is still being highly considered, but I wish that they invested more in the acoustic instruments.
Cubase has really nice acoustics, but the UI is trash. People say that it's loaded with features, but it appears that Studio One has everything that I need.
I love Cubase. Subscribing and looking forward to the videos.
Awesome, thank you!
Cubase is excellent. I used it and Nuendo for years. Love them both.
But now I use Reaper. Haven’t noticed anything significantly different except the update prices and copy protection.
That said, I love Steinberg products.
Groove Agent is a monster. Use it all the time.
Enjoy.
There are some great free and/or cheap vst's on the market, for instance the Ozone EQ, and instruments like Vital. Cherry Audio has some great stuff too.. So, i don't mind using 3rd party plugins that are free, or cheap, and work great! For the workflow i think i'll stick to S1. But that's just my opinion.
If you already own another DAW, Steinberg offer a competitive crossgrade option to buy Cubase Pro 13.
With the current 30% April sale on top of that, you can grab the full version of Cubase 13 for €250.
That's what sold me. The audio warping and and Vocalign-like features of Cubase shall nicely complement my cherished FL Studio 21.
I paid $232 with my cross grade. And with FL / Cubase 13 pro I seriously can’t imagine ANY feature you would be lacking. Lol
@@joshuabutlermusic Nice! I got mine for €249. It was the cheapest retailer I could find in Europe.
Yeah I'm literally not missing any feature now, though I gotta say I'm not a huge fan of Cubase's GUI. Coming from FL which is beautiful (just like Logic), it's quite jarring.
Tbh once FL gets all the missing features (which it will eventually), it's game over for other DAWs. Free updates for life is a huge win.
I've made my decision that my 2nd DAW is going to be Cubase 13 Elements / Cubase 13 Artist.
It's been quite a hot minute to make my final decision to choose the perfect 2nd DAW along with Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio.
I've though out using Reaper 7, Cakewalk, Waveform 13 Free, Studio One 6.6, Magix Music Maker.
But Cubase 13 Elements was the one to go for. I'm definitely looking forward to trying out in the foreseeable future, If all goes well. Then the Elements version will be 2nd primary DAW.
Then later down the pipeline. I'll upgrade to Cubase 13 Artist, The Artist version has unlimited MIDI, Audio & Instrument tracks.
Studio One will try it's best to outlast Cubase. And it's my own opinion, Cubase 13 blows Studio One 6.6 out the window.
I get it. I was torn between Cubase and S1 and finally decided on S1 because of the price and a few workflow preferences in S1 I prefer - pitch/stretch algos are set by track and not by event which saves a lot of time and frustration, event fx with macros work with shortcuts (instantly adding specific plugins on an event selection), Cubase has a bit of a cumbersome method with regards to this. folders converted to busses and tracks nested neatly underneath the busses is another S1 feature I can't live without. the S1 inspector fader, inserts are huge when stretched open and the cubase inspector is underwhelming in this regard since I mix in the arranger window. coming from reaper I don't even consider built in plugins or virtual instruments. there are a bunch of buggy or weird workflow things I really don't like about S1 though. I really dislike the fact that cubase change the event/item/region color when moving it - it's like a flash and then I wonder, did it move or not - weird. all that said, I probably would've gone with Cubase if not for the price since I really like variaudio and have an emotional connection with cubase since I worked with it for many years in other studios.
One thing I say to people who ask about Reaper all the time...... It's the most stable DAW that will pretty much run on a potato and run very well on said potato. If you have your own collection of virtual instruments and plug-ins you really can't go wrong with it. I just REALLY like the chord track and the alignment tool along with a bunch of other features Cubase has. I can talk trash about a lot of different DAWs but reaper is not one of them. It does what it does and is very reliable.
@@joshuabutlermusic I couldn't agree more.
@@joshuabutlermusicEnd of last year I was on a mission to switch to Cubase 13 because of the Splice rent to own model as well as (most importantly) the built-in alignment feature. I was still on trial and tested the alignment feature with an old project's vocals and it worked great. Then, on the day when I wanted to use it for an actual edit/mix, for some inexplicable reason, the alignment feature did not work. It added the stretch markers and moved them, but it was totally out of time making it worse. I made sure I did it right and tried again and again... Needless to say, it felt like a great loss since I was counting on this feature to speed up my workflow and without dependability, I closed Cubase on the spot and went back to Reaper (which I have abandoned now not because there is anything wrong with Reaper but for personal reasons).
Welcome to the Cubase community
Thank you so much!! It's really good to be here. 😁
I came back to music production via Cubase 10 pro, I look forward to seeing you learn and show us things I may have missed. Cubase is a very powerful DAW... I am running Cubase Pro 13.0.30 and I love it...
Im at REASON 12 , now i had a look at UA LUNA .. it was good .. but having a trial wtih Cubase 13 Pro and it has some good sounds ..but its a bit expensive .. may go with the Artist ... and later upgrade
I AM WITH YOU studio one is loosing it
Not me, man. Too much time invested with Studio One, STILL an overall awesome, top notch product. Cubase is also a great product and much of the differences between them are trully nuance and workflow preferences....in other words, what you get used to. So you do you, but your complaints here seem a little contrived by the Steinberg marketing department.
Been a Cubase user since SX3. Reason I'll nevers switch is because Cubase has everything I need stock. Auto-Vocal alignment. Other DAW's you need to purchase vocalign. Vari-audio. Other DAW's use third party companies to integrate pitch editing. Control Room feature, Batch export, the list really goes on.
It doesn't have matching eq, studio one also
Cubase just major updated but what if S1 releases v7 later this year? Would you go back? Have you at least given feedback to presonus devs?
Presonus just killed S1 IMO with the new purchase / subscription model. I have a podcast I'm recording tomorrow going over how I think it will be the end of Studio One for a lot of people.
@@joshuabutlermusic It won't be the end of S1, if people don't like the subscription stuff they will just change it. That's what they all do. Just like Waves. Everybody cried about waves subscription model, and they changed it. I wouldn't leave a DAW that works great just for that.
@@kennybarnes9055 I didn’t leave Studio one because of this happening with the subscription model. I made the decision before 6.6 come out. Presonus is owned by Fender who is run by a CEO who only cares about the quarterly report and doesn’t care at all about innovation and making S1 better. I predicted this when Fender first bought pre-Sonus and unfortunately It looks like I was correct. They do not want you to pay one time for a license that some people will keep for 10 years when they can charge you $180 a year for as long as they can.
@@joshuabutlermusic tbh the only issue with what they did was locking a new plugin behind the subscription, not the models themself. there is a already a perpetual model if you want that. people that have an issue with the hybrid non-updating subscription isnt really thinking. i mean you have the full license version for 399. why would you pay for that if you can pay only 179 for a year of all the goods and a perpetual license that could update through the next version.
imagine version 7 comes out right before your subscription ends and you cancel. that means if it was updating you would basically have the new version for 2+ years until version 8 comes out while people that had a perpetual license for version 6 would have to pay for an upgrade to 7
@@grimeyneedle1527 I understand where you’re coming from but my gut tells me they are going to charge a subscription for any new virtual instrument or any new plug-in they come out with.
Presonus still offers perpetual licenses but will warn you though, nearly every software company is going subscription which you can't run away from. Once Steinberg starts offering subscriptions are you going to keep running to the next DAW?
Cubase has ARA with melodyne integration but yes variaudio is very good as well
Yeah, I should have mentioned that in the video. The ARA in cubase is on point and I've had no issues with Melodyne. I will say, when Varipitch has polyphonic I'll probably never use Melodyne in a session. lol
@@joshuabutlermusic 🙂 yeah I prefer variaudio as well I like that with pitch snapping that you can make vocal harmonies. Cubase has so many ways to do different workflows it’s flexible to suit anyone’s workflow, but I’m glad you’re enjoying it 👍🏾🔥🔥💯
Subscribed 🎉 I'm relatively new to Cubase too. After trying the 60 day trial, I was SOLD. Now, that I'm a full-blown Cubase user, I'm trying to find the best content to learn alongside. Let's do this! 🙌
As I learn it's little tricks and how it's different from S1/Logic I'll be making a lot of comparison videos. Going to be a fun journey. I've been loving Cubase so far. 😁
@joshuabutlermusic looking forward to it, man 👊
I love the subscription model, 15$ a month for a great DAW all included. Great deal. I also like Cubase, and Nuendo, but im not seeing myself changing any time soon.
Oh, a quick videographer tip: consider framing yourself so your head is close to the top of the frame. That's how the pros do it. One reason is because, being lower in the frame makes a person look short. It also shows a distracting background in the shot. PS your color and clarity look great! Carry on! 😎
I've been a Cubase user for several years. I've used Pro Tools before, but I always ended up back in Cubase. Realistically, any DAW is fine as long as you understand how your plugins work and what workflow you like. The biggest turn off for me would be the whole subscription stuff for DAWs, like what Pro Tools is doing and now Studio One. It may not be great for hobbyists, but might be fine if you're already doing audio for a living or make enough money to cover the monthly or yearly cost to have everything up to date with your DAW. In terms of ARA, I'm sure other DAWs may do it better. If anything, I think the ARA Vocalign is better than the stock audio alignment in Cubase. I'm always editing vocals with Variaudio.
Studio One is fabulous and worth every penny!! ... good luck with Cubase ...
nope. Presonus is only copying features from other daws. Mainly from Cubase. You can see this in every S1 update. Then you can use the original.
@@Byron101_ the guys behind S1 was formar Steinberg staff
Cubase is so old, honestly I have the license of cubase and studio one, logic, pro tools. but now my favorite is Studio one. it is bug free and most stable on Macos. Integrated melodyne. quality sound. There is no reason for me to use cubase anymore. Every time I open cubase I feel 30 years older 😂
Man I downloaded C13 because of your journey to try it out. But seriously this thing looks so ugly that I cannot imagine making music with this. I don't mind if it has maybe more feature than S1. I will anyway try it out and see whether I can get used to it. What was your first impression when you opened C13 up?
Josh did you see Presonus won’t let you buy the add on’s/drum kits anymore unless you are subscribed to Studio One plus?
I'm already making a thumbnail for tomorrows podcast about the 6.6 update and how Presonus just made a big mistake.
@@joshuabutlermusic They are getting cooked.
Wow... what now? Not even drum kits???
I think I'll have to jump ship too
@@warlanefam i’ve been researching it all day and Presonus is very vague about the whole situation, but I read through the FAQ and it’s not great for Studio one users.
@@joshuabutlermusic apparently...
So i just switched from Logic to S1 because it's just so much easier to work with samples on studio one. Literally put in the bpm and it gets time stretched automatically, i can keep changing the tempo and that baby does everything on its own. I do a lot of remixes so that is a lifesaver. Does cubase have something similar with audio stretching? I'm intrigued by all the comments.
Yepp, same in Cubase
@@ronniemartinssonbonde8445 I'm gonna give it a shot then, thanks a lot.
@@dronbanaCubase's fast and easy SamplerTrack is one of my favorite sounddesign tools now! Can't live without this and Groove Agent drummer (try GA pattern mode: dragdrop midi beats in every direction!)
It’s not as pretty as logic, but you will never have to worry about arrangements again.
I want all your comparisons in detail between the two daws!❤
They are on the board my friends. 😁
test it yourself. 😅
everyone needs different stuff.
Cubase is feature rich with bolted on features that dont sit in harmony with its core. It has great features and can do almost everything but feels like a dinasour in so many aspects. I still prefer Studio One if I had to choose one of them. I moved to Bitwig a year ago and never looked back. Missing some things from more mature feature rich DAW's perhaps but there is very little you can't do in it due to the modulation and routing flexibility. the Bitwig workflow is also on a different planet.
Your vids have been great on this topic - I was on S1 5 Artist, and have switched over to Cubase 13 Pro recently - there's no reasonable way to upgrade from 5 Artist to 6 Artist or Professional. I would have to buy a new 6 Artist licence. I found that to be questionable. It's not the only reason I switched though.
I trialled Cubase 13 Pro on a whim and initially hated all the pop-up windows but quickly found my way around that and think it's actually really good for dual monitors. Long story short, similar paths, seeing these vids and then this one now as I've basically decided to fully commit to Cubase 13 Pro is timely.
A couple of things in Cubase stood out to me - it has ARA integration - in this video, you mentioned Cubase has VariAudio and it's own VocAlign thing, which it does, but if you're more comfortable with Melodyne or VocAlign specifically - enable the Extension for them in the bar up near the top of the screen (it's like the 3rd bar down, at the far right).
That will let you choose whatever ARA plugin you want, and you can use them just as you did in Studio One. Super cool. You can also bring up these same extensions in the tracks inspector tab by hitting the little arrow next to the track name to expand it.
Being able to rearrange where the arranger track is feels like a game-changer itself.. maybe Studio One allows for this, but I haven't figured it out.. in Cubase, it's as simple as dragging the arranger track to where I want. This already feels super handy for me, as someone that prefers to one-shot most of my recordings. It's nice to put the arranger track directly above the instrument I'm recording - in Studio One, I had issues with visibility of the arranger track, when there was a lot of tracks and other things I might have had up.
The multi-tap delay in Cubase is fantastic. I absolutely love it.
I vastly prefer the channel strip in Cubase - being able to easily rearrange the order is handy af, IDK how to do this in S1 (if it's possible?), but in Cubase it was simple, you just.. move them around, lol.
I could also be wrong on this but Cubase has built-in, easy to see and use meters - no additional plugins required for keeping tabs on loudness/LUFs etc.. I haven't explored the control room aspect much yet..
..there's just a lot to love in Cubase 13 Pro, and it seems to better suit my workflow.
Enjoyed the vid. Actually wished it was a bit longer and went more in-depth on the differences and things you like/dislike when comparing the two, but realistically that could be a vid that goes for hours. lol.
EDIT: ofc now that I've written the above, I've had Cubase 13 Pro crash on me multiple times today. cool.
Have you ever tried Ableton?
i have made the switch today im following you due to my own reasons studio one plush things and they are lazy from improving their sound library and vocal editing features like pitch correct and i find myself going back to third party plugins
welcome
to Cubase Family
THANK YOU!!!!! It feels like a very friendly family so-far. lol And Cubase continues to amaze me the more I learn about it.
Things i like about cubase are that its been there right from the 1990s with Pro Tools, every other DAW is trying to be Pro Tools or Cubase its that simple. Cubase is owned by Yamaha, so the stability of the future roadmap is in the hands of a multi billion $$$ company a music company, not an interest finance group like Pro tools.
Cubase obviously doesn't appeal to the beat making, EDM,Trap, hip-hop, Drill community like FL Studio and Ableton, it leans more to people mixing Guitar music and composing, but People are waking up to Cubase as a final destination to mix in, a lot of people are coming around to Cubase after years of being in other DAWS and there getting better mixes from Cubase.
I think Cubase will spearhead using AI as well, seeing as Steinberg Backbone utilised AI technology, Cubase is open to have more AI tools in the future.
I agree with EVERYTHING you just said. Steinberg is one of the original DAWs that have been around since the beginning of computer based recording. When Yamaha purchased them way back in 2004 It just gave them the capital to dominate the industry. It's a DAW made for creative artists and not just "Beat Makers" And I love that.
I started out on cubase in the early 90s, well actually pro 24 then on to cubase, nether the less, Studio One in my experience is the best DAW for the future , the updates and tutorials are awesome.
People forget that Presonus, like Avid or Steinberg are all commercial companies, for profit. Times are hard and im sure even presonus employees are feeling the pinch. Good luck on your cubase adventure , im staying right here with studio one.
Nothing wrong with that, it's still a great DAW.
Let's hope that they 're exam the model and make it proficient for both licenced users and those that think they can benefit from a lifelong subscription in the hope thet things don't turn out drastic like the company selling to Bandlab.
stay with S1 Bro
Though I like Cubase more, but did you check splitter in S1? You can make midi/side Eq with Splitter, save as a preset and be done. Also Splitter splits by frequency up to 5 as I remember and you can sidechain in each band.
A lot of my S1 friends keep a preset for that but I just want a button on my stock EQ that I can click. And being able to side chain each frequency dynamic is Fab Filter Pro Q3 level stuff.
It's a good option but, a waste of time for basic things like m/s eq.
Who working with Cubase will not looking for another DAW
Cubase 13 is a super daw
Good for you Josh.... I made the switch after version 5.
Good for you, Joshua! Welcome aboard!
THANK YOU!!!!! Cubase is so amazing and I've only just begun to learn it's little tricks and secrets. My workflow has already gotten more efficient.
@joshuabutlermusic
You should have seen the grin on my face when I read your reply!
Very happy for you, sir.
@@QuaverloveStudio one thing I can say about the Cubase community, you folks are amazingly welcoming. Thank you for the kind words. 😁
Loved your verse of the day!!
I’d also mention studio one has got one of the poorest performance on apple chips. I’m a Studio One use and this makes me really upset. They’ve had ample time to optimise but they don’t prioritise it.
I tried protools ( the worst imo ), reaper was okay, ableton was okay, studio one seemed better, then finally landed on Cubase. It just felt easier for me to use. The options and hotkeys, plugins, sounds and overall look for me was best. I will admit, i still dont know how to fully use it, but I will gladly say I am happy. The worst one was protools. It just felt so oudated and bland, like eating the worlds driest chicken with no sauce
Is there a way to make Cubase look better?
In the preferences you can change the meters, audio waves colors, midi waves color, channel and bottom colors and the entire daw color if that what you mean
Cubase seems to be much more taxing on computer power some time ago. Therefore only, I switched from Cubase to S1. Has that changed?
That's true and is why I switched from Cubase to Studio One. Also the amount of crashes I had in Cubase was a big reason.
on my Mac M1 Cubase has a bit better performance than S1.
Cubase is very stable, no crash.
on my Windows systems (10 and 11) equal, I would say.
@@JanEkbom mostly crashes are only about thirdparty plugins in case of Cubase.
I'm testing Cubase 13 atm... One interesting thing... It may be something with my system, but... I'm running Cubase 13 all day long with few virtual instruments and every time I come back and hit the key, it plays... On same system, this was not possible with S1 because it would just freeze if left idle for a period of time and only way to fix it is hard restart... Windows 10
I am glad you left with that mindset. S1 6.6!!!
Nice to hear !
Never. Love S1
Studio one = monthly membership payments.... NOP! Hello Cubase :)
Good info. Thank you
After 3 months with S1 it's too much of an uphill battle. Many great things, but very basic (important) things like undo, recording midi in time (not early) and midi quantize all do not really work correctly. Frustrating to say the least and huge time wasters. I tested Cubase today and all these functions work perfectly. I am seriously considering jumping ship and getting Cubase (in spite of the quirks) since arranging should not be hindered by essential broken functionality.
You said you had cpu troubles with cubase one year ago, how did you fix it bro, love cubase but studio one runs much better :/
13 has been running really smooth on my M1 iMac. I've not tested it on my windows machine yet. I'll be sure to update when I do.
@@joshuabutlermusic do you know If there is a Plugin nap function Like in Studio one ?
question: if the eq is dynamic, why the need to side chain frequency?
I like to side-chain my bass guitars or sub basses at 80hz and below and have my kick drum "duck" the frequency. So it ducks the frequency and not the volume of the kick itself. It's different for every situation of course but it makes a lot of room for the kick to cut thru without making the mix muddy or "cluttered" sounding. You can do the same thing with the FabFilter Pro Q 3.
Josh you still using Cubase?!
Cubase is the best for Super Engineers.
Unfortunate that touch Automation is broken, so switching to Cubase is a no go for me.
I don't think Cubase is on an upward trajectory. Good luck. I use Nuendo and I'm not optimistic with where this software will be in several years.
Welcome to cubase gang😎
tried cubase 13 pro, tried to like it but to me studio one beats it hands down in a lot of ways.
I've never heard of a producer with DECADES of studio experience under his belt completely defend or dismiss a DAW because of a stock plugin. EVER. Generally they use a DAW because of personal workflow or because that DAW is the standard tool of choice where they work. Imagine an engineer getting flustered in the middle of a busy session because the stock EQ in Pro Tools can't accomplish what he wanted in a mix (and also, his forgetting about the $20K worth of 3rd party plugins in his FX folder. Pssst... Fabfilter, anyone?).
Subscription daw's are killing music production I switched from reason studio cause of this to ableton live never been more happier but looks like it's becoming a trend sad
I really hope the trend of subscription stops. It's trying to become the new normal and I will NOT accept that. Call me old fashioned in my 30's but I like the days of actually OWNING what I pay for and not being shorthanded on features because I will not pay a subscription.