5 Banned Elements in Figure Skating
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- čas přidán 5. 10. 2019
- You can find the full ISU technical rulebook here:
www.isu.org/inside-isu/rules-...
Please note that there are small rule changes every year, and I've included what I think are the most updated rules, but there may be some inconsistencies!
Other sources:
slate.com/culture/2018/02/tal...
www.liveabout.com/backflips-p...
Opening Music:
Snapping - Chungha (instrumental)
• Video - Sport
Judges: you know, we got tired of having to clean blood off the ice so can you stop trying to kill yourselves now?
Show skaters: n o
lol
Show skaters: Yeah, well... I'm gonna go build my own ice sport! with blackjack! and hookers!
Cleaners: **COUGH COUGH** UM- EXCUSE ME? I DID THAT-
I love how they’re like, “we can’t do this during competition because it’s dangerous? Fine. WE WILL DO IT FOR FUN AND YOU DONT HAVE TO BE THERE, JUDGY MC SAFETY PANTS”
Haha I think it’s to prevent people taking unnecessary risks to get ahead in competitions
Ai A yeah you right 😂
The pressure at a big competition makes you way more likely to fuck up than just a performance. Also I think the landing of things like a backflip would leave a big gash in the ice
@@BalletTapJazz thats why they are called professional cause they can do shit that makes everyone else break their ass
*Proceeds to break back by laying down in the ice*
So the judges just got tired of dramatic “i died” endings with people laying on ice lololol
Just like how the public was outraged when Stravinsky's Rite of Spring was first performed!
@@lisakwaterski6707 yes, the Bolero routine was exceptional. Torvill and Dean were truly amazing as an ice dancing pair. They basically put the sport on the map, as it were. It’s a shame that they (the powers that be) chose to ban the lying down on the ice move completely. I think it was very effective as an ending. But i also agree it got overused. I guess I’ll just have to go watch T&D again to get my fix! LOL
Can't they get stuck to the ice??
But why did the music start playing when the performance wasn't started yet (since the blades did not touch the ground)
So what is the point? Regarding Surya’s backflip, she had tremendous experience doing so as a gymnast. She’s incredibly strong and skilled that she didn’t even fall during her backflip on the ice. She’s the only skater of her generation to do so, since with the men that is already slated to be overrated so it was extremely rare to see her land that backflip on one leg while Rory Flack landed it with the typical both feet, though not in competition like Surya did.
Surya Bonaly performed her backflip and landed on one foot because the ISU banned it when you landed on two feet. They did not think one would attempt it with one foot.
ISU: Thou shalt not perform a backflip and land on two feet.
Surya Bonaly: Hold my beer.
Lmao that info is just vital to understand how girlboss that moment must have been lol
I had no idea... she was amazing to watch.
She took smart to a whole other level. Amazing.
She clearly learned how to read rules from Smokey Yunick.
that "headbanger" thing is just plain stupid and I see why its banned wtf.
That one is not the one I have an issue with because it takes skill and it looks great. None of the hands free looked good and the standing on the shoulders looked painful.
Not in The Cutting Edge lol
What's real stupid was standing on partners shoulders, like you're not wearing nives on your feet
The headbanger looks impressive but makes total sense to ban it.
They often use the headbanger in Dancing on Ice on UK TV and sometimes there seems to be a push to be the first celebrity to include it in a routine. It's bad enough when it's a male pro-skater and a celebrity partner, but when it's a male celebrity holding a female pro skater it's terrifying. I'm sure there are plenty of viewers who love it, but I hate it.
The headbanger is so goddamn terrifying, what happens if they slip and let go??? Team Rocket is blasting off again?
imagine if they tried that in competition and he dropped her and she flew right into the judges
@@Biofreak659 That's what they get for not doing their job right
@@ggobugi13 yuna goes into pairs and does this but with a knife
@@Biofreak659 ugh artistic genius banksy could never
Watch UKs Dancing on Ice with Torvill and Dean - celebs paired with pros and there's been lots of headbangers with amazingly few injuries!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's even more impressive is WHY Surya Bonaly did the backflip even though it was banned in competition. She has ruptured her achilles tendon the season prior and suffered permanent damage from it. She was unable to perfectly execute some of the 'legal' moves that she planned in her routine, like the triple lutzes everyone had become obsessed with at the time, so she decided to pop in a one-legged backflip instead. She lost out on medaling, but she gained more worldwide fans than ever and became one of the most talked-about athletes of the Olympics that year.
Right? The olympics were kinda boring anyway, watching a bunch of hoity toity types do the same stuff over and over. This opened my eyes to some legit acrobatics. Had me at the edge of my seat!
i dont understand, if its illegal to land in 2 legs why they dont accept her one leg landing ?
@@pigeonramier6898 Basically, because they could.
So basically, “I know I can’t win the medal like this, but I can at least win the crowd”
Surya's flip was an epic display of sheer athleticism. I was instantly inspired by her "F.Y." to the olympic board.
Not the Olympic board. the ISU.
The headbanger is so frigging scary I don't understand how anyone would agree to do that
I cringe watching the headbanger, imagine when doing that the man's hands slip. The partner could be thrown away at high speed.
@@yohanes2034 not to mention the lady's head swoops down to about 10cm away from the ice at massive speeds. If the partner loosens his grip even just a little on the way down her skull will be crushed.... It's just way too scary
@@Edward-W yeah not worth it in my opinion. I won't enjoy seeing it if I keep on thinking of scary things that might happen.
I was just at Disney on ice and they had that in the show. so scary.
My stomach knots up every time I see it.
About that lying down thing...
Judges were probably just tired of everyone being super extra drama queens about it 🤣🤣
I suspect the same thing...plus, they REALLY started to drag it out. Lik, if they had just sunk through the ice in the last seconds they most likely wouldn't have bothered. In exchange, we now get the skaters sinking down on the ice in relied when they realized that they managed a close to flawless performance. That's even more dramatic, but more fun to watch.
It was all so tacky
I am wondering, who can be a judge? At least can they ice skate? :D
It was about chemicals used on the floor of the artificial ice platform.
@@csocseszrocsesz i assume that they were prof skaters too
Bonaly performed the flip after some stumbles during her routine. She knew she was out of medal contention, so she wanted to go out with a bang for the audience. One of my favorite Olympic moments.
I was one of just two people in my country during my period of skating who could do a backflip at the time. I once did one at a major competition during the 6 minute warmup (the official warmup right before you compete your program) to show off for the ladies and have a bit of fun and initially, people thought it was funny. After I won the gold medal, however, the coaches of my competitors lobbied the judges and decision makers to have me disqualified and have my medal stripped from me for performing an illegal manoeuvre during competition. The judges got out the rule books and after a few hours of discussions came back and said they couldn’t find any rule stating that banned manoeuvres could not be performed during the official 6 minute warm up, so my 1st place position stood. Awesome memories.
Surya landing the backflip on one foot + 3S is such a power move.
Who think backflips are more dangerous than headbanger? Because if someone fell, he would injured his head severely.
Surya was indeed judged unfairly for her routines and she was judged for her looks , not what they wanted to represent , the skating princess look....All the whining Tonya Harding did was bullshit, the only person that ruined it for Tonya was Tonya. Surya was not judged fairly ever and she laid down some amazing performances with powerful jumps ( when jumps were everything) and still lost to a skater that fell on a same jump .
Aspen Robinson Surya was robbed in the 1993 World’s. Sure, Oksana was as graceful as a swan, but she two footed several jumps and her spins were sloppy. Surya’s jumps were terrific, cleanly landed, and her spins remarkable. Likewise, Nancy Kerrigan was unfairly denied the gold at the 1994 Olympics in favor of the charming Baiul. Again, Baiul’s jumps were so unimpressive-two footed and she almost fell on one. Her spins were slow and traveled. She did a very simple combination at the end. Kerrigan, on the other hand, did several difficult combinations, all her jumps were clean and her spins difficult and centered. The judges marked Baiul way too high on technical - almost identical to Kerrigan’s - which was utterly ridiculous. That’s how Baiul won. Mary Scotfold, Kerrigan’s choreographer, said she felt the judges penalized Kerrigan for the Nancy-Tonya scandal - it “sullied the sport.” Which was utterly insane - Kerrigan had NOTHING to do with that - it was all Harding & her gang of hoodlums.
@@shimmeringfairydust3275 I agree COMPLETELY with everything you said . I feel the same as you do about the 1994 Olympics in Salt Lake..they didn't give it to Nancy because of the scandal. The only thing Nancy had to do with that attack wasunexpectedly getting smacked with a crow bar .
Aspen Robinson Exactly! And Surya was robbed in 1993!
CZcams reccomemdations: illegal figure skating techniques
Me: oh okay guess we're doing this now
Reccomemdations
You gotta know this info for when you inevitably get into ice skating
me: just in case
Lol that was my reaction too. I’ve never watch Figure Skating
This is just what happened to me lol
This is a really well-made video, no ads, no intro, just straight to the point
welcome to old youtube
I love how when she does the banned black flip she totally owns it and smiles without giving any care to what the judges will say
The "Headbanger" one just gives me anxiety
The name literally speaks for itself
You really have to trust your partner lol
I can never watch it.... I keep flinching in fear.
Ugh same I can’t even look 😫
Human equivalent of hammer throwing...
Headbanger: exists
My heart rate: 📈
Mine too
Same
same my anxiety📈
My heart rate : Stonks !
Matthias Darrington dang it you beat me to the joke by three hours
0:04 Backflips
1:14 Lifts with Wrong Holds (pairs)
3:35 Lying down in the ice
4:57 Using Props
5:37 Any part of costume detaching
Olympic skating is amazing, but my favorite experience watching figure skating was when I went to Disney on Ice where there were no illegal moves. They did so many amazing moves I’d never seen in the Olympics (like twirling the girl by her leg!) They used props and put on a fantastic show, and were allowed to be creative. In the Olympics there are so many rules, that many of the programs skaters do look so similar to each other.
Ok yeah I'm glad they banned the "swinging women around to see if their head hits the ice" move.
Hey gurl, I'm just trying to...break the ice B)
Hey, at any time the female could've done that to her partner. Now that would be something to see!
It's cool to watch roller bladers do that
😂 I laughed so hard on this comment.
Im carrying that tho
"Standing on your partner's shoulders."
Ah yes.. Just casually chopping off my partner's arms.. Don't mind me.
Skate blades don't work like that
skate blades are dull enough so if you pressed your finger against it, it wont cut you, the only time it would is if you are pushing and going at a certain speed. ice is really easy to mark so thats why you don't need much force to create a trail, you see when they do the back flip the ice breaks a bit, it just shows how delicate it is. human skin on the other hand isn't, when you cut a whole lettuce or anything but take lettuce for example, you apply force to the top of the knife to cut it in half, this doesn't cut you because the blade isn't sharp on the top side and your skin is rough enough to endure it.
@@kenmahyu A good skate blade is definitely not dull and would definitely cut your finger.
@@felixar90 yeah but do you think they would use a sharp blade during the performance if they were going to do that trick?
@@kenmahyu Well, yes. It would be hard to skate properly, much less figure skating with dull blades. Guy probably had leather shoulder pads or something like that.
Surya Bonaly, greatest of all time, criminally underrated
I so loved watching Surya do backflips. She was just marvelous and so fun to see. I wish you had included the names of all the skaters because my memory is not what it used to be and I think it is only fair to the skaters if you use video of them to include their names.
Six minutes of why women get so many head injuries in pairs skating
Excellent video!
but then there's Paul Binnebose (look him up if not familiar)
@@watcherwlc53 D: poor guy
Ironically I got a concussion when I was 19 from synchronized skating
Watcher WLC aw poor thing :(
{} the irony
I’d think if any element was banned it would be fire
that made me cackle
Noice
Catherine Grace lolol
HA
I hate that i laughed
The Iron Lotus was perfected in North Korea. When done correctly, it can win any competition . Any slip, and decapitation can result. Sadly, this happened during the Blades of Glory event.
I hope you're kidding, the iron lotus is a fictional move made up for the movie blades of glory
Hoooooly shit, that's insane.
The decapitations where the main reason for banning wrong hold lifts I understand.
Nobody talks about it in the figureskating community. That's how banned it is. I once asked a figureskater and he turned pale, whispered 'we never had this conversation' and ran away. On toepicks.
I remember that accident…so tragic.
😂❤
Surya Bonaly is a true maverick (in the literal sense). "You won't judge me fairly because you're all white and racist, thus I'll just prove you can't even hold a candle to my performances."
Actually she did what she did because she was retiring and had made a slip-up earlier in her performance so decided to go out in a way people would remember her by.
??? It literally wasn't about race, the goddamn video just straight up explained that's a banned move, she would've gotten points removed even if she was white omg step out of Twitter bc not everything is about race
Don’t reduce her to your victimizing “everyone but black people is racist” I assure you that’s not what happened. Good performers are good performers don’t reduce her to her skin
It had nothing to do with being white or black , stop bringing race everywhere because of modern politics. Other black ice skaters performed accordingly to what the judges would prefer. It is a dangerous move and it was banned. For a reason - more would try it and get injured.
Also the circumstances for her were different than other ice skaters.
Uhh what? what racism? Oh it pisses you off does it princess?
Does the 'throwing the women around to see if their head hits the ice' ban piss you off too or do they need to all be black and the judges white for that to trigger you.
And technicaly the backflip is far more dangerous.
Oof when the woman stood on the mans shoulders I could feel her blades digging into my shoulders
canary hopefully he was wearing them...
Human Resources skates arent THAT sharp lmao. You can easily carry them by the blade parts lol. But he definitely had to have pads bc adult woman around 60kg standing on your shoulders even without skates is not most comfortable thing ever. The edges of the scates are the sharp parts, not the middle. They are not shaped like knife lol :DD. I have done figure and synchronized skating for 12+ years trust me
Choke me daddy Thanos I don’t think anyone was arguing they were knife sharp.
I personally had a random guy step on my leg while ice skating, it's extremely painfull but, it didn't slice through
@@AnakinS86 i think its because they said "sliced" rather then what itd most likely do which is "dig in" so to speak, because its not sjarp enough to slice it... i think, idk, im just judging that from other ice skaters
2030: "They banned ice"
What the f...
Why did I laugh at this?
"They decided that if ice was involved, there was too much risk of people being cold"
@@aj6134 if that happen there's no ice skating anymore lol
I laughed out loud I love u
Imagine a routine that includes all of this movements and elements, the faces of the judges has to be priceless 😂
Great video, I especially liked the rule that was not easily found in the rulebook. Most of the rules seen to be there for safety. "Playing dead" is potentially extremely dangerous because the medical aid cannot always tell if it's part of the choreography or not.
Not to mention the risk of burns from contact with the ice
The ice contact would need to be far longer than any contact within a program: it's not liquid nitrogen! I think it's because costume bits come off much easier when they contact the ice and the cleanup could delay competitions: that why no more bunches of flowers being thrown.
@@mattfn it was because judges got sick and tired of awarding points to yet another skater dramatically dying at the end of a programme.
Judges: We’ve banned this move. You can’t do it anymore
Show skaters: this sign can’t stop me because I can’t read!
Fyi, Show skaters are the same athletes who compete in every championships, the shows they give are usually opening or closing ceremonies before/after championships
Probably cuase they got there head bashed in too many times with a headbanger
Too busy gliding on ice, you’ll have to read it out for me 😌 but too the music is so loud
@@Michizoechling no, actually they're not. There are lots of show skaters who quit competition to be professional skaters (like I did). Almost everyone I worked with were professional show skaters only (with the exception of 4 top competitive skaters that joined us for a few galas).
@@lindatannock yes, and there's some that are retired competitors who participate in shows, I just wanted to highlight for those that are non skaters that it isn't a completely separate thing cause the video doesn't make that clear
Me: *Needs to go to sleep really badly*
CZcams: "Do you wanna see illegal moves in figure skating?"
Me: "Hell yeah fam, give it to me."
I was NOT dissapointed
4am: Really should go to bed now-ooooh ice skating!
I need too be awake in 3 hours for a 12 hour shift 😭
Me: so this is what my coaches are hiding from me
Popped up like 5 times in my suggestions! After watching the video, I'm still still wondering why 😄
these performers have more trust than a 50 year intimate relationship.
They always land from the lift so smoothly and I love seeing that transition from being held to skating on their own.
Winter Olympics: *"Sorry, we dont sell horror movie tickets"*
Lol 😂
the second make me scream the whole section
Lol the fact that this comment have so many likes and now it's 3 comments only lol
“If you’re lying down, you aren’t skating”
Well if you’re airborne you’re not exactly skating either but I guess they don’t care about that.
uh lying down not using any technic . so its not skating .
well fuck you then but I guess you already do that with your hand.
If it’s the ending pose, you’re done skating anyway. I never got that.
Nyiayu Farda Kamila
Excuse me, but I have been perfecting my lying down technique for decades
@@nyiayufardakamila4439 I mean normal lying down does not, but slides and such that technically use technique are also banned. You need to either touch the ice with your skates or not touch it at all.
Surya is amazing, I love that she still did the back flip despite it being banned. If you can do such an awesome move landing on one foot then you gotta show it off!
Surya Bonaly remains the only figure skater to even attempt, let alone complete a one-foot landing backflip at the Olympics. There might not be many who could land it in competition today. Of course it was banned even when she did it but there was a long period that backflips were legal. She’s a legend of the sport and was an outlier in her time and not treated with the respect she she deserved.
It was banned because it is too dangerous. Nothing amazing about risking your health, your life to show off your tricks.
The first person to do a backflip during competition was Terry Kubicka at the 1976 Olympics and it was banned later in 1976. Bonaly was only 3 years old.
@@Charlie-dv7ev I said the first one foot landing backflip. So yes, she remains the first and only to attempt and land that move. Terry Kubicka’s backflip was a hard two-foot landing. Surya purposefully landed using only one. A more difficult maneuver than Terry’s.
@@ddespair Still doesn't negate the fact that the backflip, regardless of landing was banned long before Surya stepped foot on ice.
@@Charlie-dv7ev what exactly is your point? I literally said in my first post that the backflip was banned before she did it. Learn to read before you post.
0:25 cool fact: Surya Bonaly is the only skater to ever do a backflip, split in air and land on one foot. Ugh I love her.
Cirque du Soleil?
i learned that the reason why her move was banned because she was the only person who knew how to complete the tricks.
EDIT: I never said if I was right or wrong, the only thing I said was that I learned. Keywords: "I Learned".
@@KaylaDame yeah but also because it's Hella fucking dangerous lmao. If it was legal athletes would start learning it and many more serious injuries would occur
@@KaylaDame lol no, it was because it's way too dangerous. You still have some little control on land, but on ice doing a backflip... That's calling for a head injury/paralysis so bad. It's a beautiful move, landing on her foot like that! But I'm also glad they banned it
She did that on purpose I believe. Since a Jump doesn't count in figure skating unless you land on one foot. So I think she tried to bend the rules by landing the back tuck on one foot. She did it so well too its amazing
me: “it’s 3am, i should go to sleep”
youtube: *5 illegal moves in figure skating*
me (having no interest in skating my whole life): HELL YEAH
Same
Mood
Me rn at 3 am literally
It's 3am here and I'm doing the same thing.
Mishumydog me too! But it is 2:00 am
That was so exciting!!! Thank you for uploading
😍😍😍😍💙⛸⛸
I was watching when Surya Bonali did that backflip at the Olympics. It was epic and came after a difficult routine that didn't go well for her.
I invented my own move that everyone can do on its first try called "Slip."
Yato Yaboku followed by The Split Chin. They really should introduce those moves.
@@virginiaviola5097 welcome to the new winter Olympic event artistic skate falling
Not to brag but I’m a pro at that move 😎👌
My speciality so far
I can do that even without ice skating do i need to write stuff down for copyright?
Judges: banned the element of the competition
Skating show: hahahaha, you have no power here
Lol, Lotr? Or am I the only one who thinks this?
The judges might be close minded artistically but at least they care about not promoting dangerous (but awesome looking) moves in deperate competitions. Competition is so tough that any curb to dangerous moves is useful
In many cases I can understand the judges. Some of the moves are really dangerous, others make it difficult to judge a performance.
5:40 that spin reveal is incredible!! I want to see the whole thing!
You left out Scott Hamilton who’s signature move is a back flip. He’s not just famous for being an amazing skater, he’s famous for how well he does back flips on ice!
They didn't leave him out: the video is moves banned in competition, not ones done in shows, which they fully explained.
JUDGES: "If you're lying down you're not skating"
SKATERS: *only lay down on the ice at the end of their routine for dramatic effect*
JUDGES: "Their routine is over, but they layed down at the end. Disqualified!"
I think it was just a reason they came up with because it is a goofy, trite move and they were sick of watching it every routine.
J A D though, they would just get points deducted but I see what chu mean. It’s understandable at the beginning but not at the end of a routine
One thing not outlined, despite a video clip (which is 1984 Olympics) , is the first case of lying down internationally was Torvill and Dean at the 1984 Europeans. Many people criticized it, including iconic coach Tatiana Tarasova who tried to get it banned!! Lying down in competition stemmed from Torvill and Dean's perfect Bolero, many people just copied the idea of that.
Literary makes no sense
J A D exactly!
The only banned move I could do is "Lay on the Ice".
🤣🤣
The only banned move I would do... Screw that head banger crap. LOL.
As a skater for almost a decade now, most people hate lying on the ice. It's cold, you're sweating from performing, and if your sweating skin touches the cold ice? PAIN
can do that and take off a jacket XD
Same here! We are gods
As a child, I used to watch ice skating only at the Olympic games or bigger contests. Then I neglected it about years.. As I started again to watch, I was wondering what happened to the skills? Why are so many figures not shown? Now I know...
Yadda yadda backflip yadda yadda headbanger, but how amazing and creative was that first costume detach! 5:36
The headbanger is terrifying tbh it looks like there gonna crack there head open on the ice.
and they can fuck up the landing too with all that momentum dayum
Hence the name, head banger.
Peep the name: headbanger
My and my brother used to do that on the trampoline but you hold on to each other’s arms and we called it the twirly bird. We showed our dad and he never let us do it again 💀
It reminds me of that "iron lotus" move in the ice skating movie with Will Ferrell in it, "Blades of Glory". Made me wonder if anyone has ever tried it.
5:40 This might be banned but this girl did such an amazing clothes change
Exactly
The only illegal part was throwing the hat onto the ice. The "dress swap" is perfectly legal and even done by a lady skater (can't remember which one, sorry) this season :D
@@Stormchantress I googled it, it was Anna Shcherbakova in 2019
xfroz anna pogorilaya
Kikaylisa both, and they also aren’t the only 2
I've noticed in sports like gymnastics and ice-skating when there's only a few athletes who can perform very difficult moves, it's banned because the other athletes can't do it.
Pretty sure it's mostly to do with risk. Skaters can still pull off difficult moves, but we don't want them to perform life threatening ones.
If you fail a jump, you might get scuffed up or at worst break a bone, but it can heal.
If you fail a "headbanger" then you might have killed your partner.
@@jaceybella1267 I saw a comment from a skater saying they're not as dangerous as they look.
Seeing these show me how creative you can be while skating
I love that it’s all these wild moves then a ban on laying down on ice
Illegal moves. 1. Reason: safety hazard. 2. Reason: safety hazard. 3. Reason: extremely annoying.
Ikr? I'll have to totally rethink my harp seal routine
even though the lying down isn't annoying it's just an aspect of dance and ice skating includes lots of dance. Like wow I lied down on the ice for emphasis now I've lost points like that sucks, ice skating is an art taking away something so small and un-harmful seems absurd.
@@Maddie-kk7pk I suspect that "dropping dead" during the performance may also be a safety hazard. You never know if something happened with the skater or is it just a part of the performance.
The people who banned these moves is a real (cold) person😂.
I didn't know lying down was banned. That's a bit excessive tbh
Amy It makes sense tbh, as figure skaters we get point deductions for falling on the ground, so it would make sense that we aren’t allowed to lay down.
CBS did a funny fluff piece about the "dying on the ice" trope that showed just how overdone it had become! czcams.com/video/EZGbGhlHTjY/video.html
4:15 Klimova and Ponomarenko at the 1992 Olympics. Gorgeous performance. czcams.com/video/X4LnD0laELk/video.html
Tracymmo Yes, so dramatic and captivating. I loved every moment of their performance.
@@leahlu1174 I think they don't like moves where skates are not on the ice (even in lifts, the guy has his skates on the ice)
I remember growing up watching the backflips.... loved them
I remember being a child watching that thing where the guy grabs the girl's feet and spins her head within inches of the ice, and even then I was wondering how on earth that was allowed. Imagine how many women have been brained on the ice because of it 😨
Banned elements are dangerous.
No 3: Lying down on ice.
I actually can see why this is banned cause it can be taken as them having been hurt 🤔
KpopHooper No. They said it was banned because it wasn’t skating. And it also sounded like the judges were tired of every pair ending their routine that way. 😂
KpopHooper not much will happen if they are hurt tho they’ll have to continue the show must go on that’s what they are taught
@@hazahae just like yuzuru in 2018... that hit and then his head bandaged like that 😵 and not to talk about that ankle that most have hurt some much! 😱
The figure skating version of a DJ turning off the power on the turntable.
How about sitting, how about all fours... handstands?
I think the reason why lying down on purpose in the ice banned is because it's hard to differentiate it with lying down caused by injured. Can you imagine someone collapsed and you just standing there and stare because you think it's part of the routine?
normaida simanjuntak I mean people would be able to tell within seconds but
@@jekicolin8036 Sometimes it isn't about "waiting a few seconds", sometimes when people get injuries they are urgent. A few seconds could cost someone their life.
@@jekicolin8036 Listen here, programs can be pretty dramatic at times, resulting in that people could easily mix it up. Would you take the risk? Personally, I wouldn't. Now, were talking about competitive pair skating, right? Do you have any prior knowledge of that? Just curious. Also, I was talking about that injuries can be dangerous, not that it was hard to distinguish falling vs doing it purposefully.
@ It is not a "stupid" rule to disallow laying down on the ice, it's made for the skaters own safety. I have quite a bit of experience in figure skating and I know how fast you may have to act at times. Someone could bleed out in thirty seconds, that's not a whole load of time. *Some* people may think that that is a part of the show. You also talked about that "figure skating is an art form", while it is, were talking about competitive skating, not show skating. You see, competitive skating is about showing skill, not who can lay on the ice the coolest way. There is a difference; show skating =/= competitive skating.
@@jonaxoez I told you, it is impossible to mistake someone that fells and someone that acts, especialy on ice.The body becomes very tense when a person hit the ice and move like a worm because of the pain, if the person fell on the head his/her body will become soft and the muscles will be totaly relaxed, like someone who died. When you ''fall'' dramaticaly on the ice you don't hit the ice and you slowly lay down your head.
The only way it can be dangerous to fall on the ice is if it is an accident, in that case it is just too obvious and there will be no mistaking nor delay.
Bonaly and that one leg was great! Klimova and Ponemerenko had the most memorable routine ending laying on the ice
Thanks for these, really interesting! :D
I have no idea why I’m watching this as someone who doesn’t do or watch ice skating but it’s actually really interesting 😂
Midnight Fandoms I dont either and i am actually enjoying these types of videos!
Midnight Fandoms
Same 😂😂
Midnight Fandoms me too
Midnight Fandoms same xD
Pfft I watch Yuri on ice that counts
The fact that anyone could do a backflip on ice skates blows my mind
and land on one foot! I remember being a kid when she didn't do it in her actual competition but in practice would do it to intimidate her competitors and I LOVED it
I've tried to jump on roller blades and had difficulty.
And then land on one skate.....mind blown🤯
Not just on ice skates but I’m ice skate ON ICE! So scary.
Backflipping isn't technically difficult, but they are extremely dangerous.
Hence why middleschoolers with ADHD can always do standing backflips.
I can't believe that just yesterday i watched all of this elements at Seaworld Christmas show " The performers were great" , and today this video popped out on my CZcams.
ok but the programs with early 2000s songs thats iconic like skaing to AVRIL??!! amazing
the lying down one is kinda dumb,, it's not like they're lying on the ice for the whole time
@Jay Byeon As someone said in another comment
"Theres a difference between falling and lying down on ice
One is voluntary, the other is an accident"
But anyway, i think lying down on ice for ending poses should bem allowed, because at this point youre done with your skating portion of the program
Well... there might be a case where a skater didnt lie down on purpose and lied that they did do it on purpose to save themselves from losing a point
I think there was an issue with Torvill and Dean, they wanted to use Ravel’s Bolero but couldn’t cut the music to fit with the routine time restriction so they worked around it by starting the routine on their knees for the first few counts. They didn’t have to cut the music as much and weren’t officially skating.
Maybe some people lie on the ice to relax or ease up a bit thats why they being strict
It's not like traveling in the NBA where it's legal and illegal at the same time.
my anxiety while this compilation is playing 📈📈📈
it actually lessons when you can do any type of skating be it Ice, Inline or Quads, most things can be learned with practice, the really hard things will take some guts and some will take a natural talent, but this well within the range of human ability
Same sis
These videos just make my urge to learn figure skating grow-
But it's expensive
how is the removing of clothing more anxiety inducing than a fucking backflip on ice
@@bebanxd1074 oh right I kinda am
No wonder I hadn’t seen anyone do back flips on ice… this sure brought back the 80’s 90’s the good all days.
The one-leg landing off a backflip is so amazing
OKAY BUT WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSITION AT 5:40?? THATS WAS COOL AS HELL
That's crazyly amazing
YES!!!! Anna Pogorilaya!
I KNOW AAAAAA
That was so smooth I feckin missed it and had to go back and find it LOL
ik ! i was like dang ! that was super impressive
Surya Bonaly not only did the backflip move in competition.....but she finished her program with her back facing the judges.....ANOTHER severe no-no and she was scored accordingly. I fell in love.
Became a legend.
Wait your not supposed to end with back to judged?
@@llc_asf no, they're elitists and need to feel worshipped.
@@jadecoolness101 Oh, I hope you guys were joking about them taking points of because isn't there no wrong way to end, since it's just part of the choreography
@@llc_asf no, you lose points for anything they deem as 'Bad' like doing certain flips, because elitist judges can't feel inferior to those they are judging from their pedestal. You must look to them and be obedient, or they chuck points off and punish you XD
Competitive skating is a joke full of pettiness and pathetic judges.
from the SB Nation video about ice skating backflips to Surya's amazing backflip videos to here.
Surya Bonaly is the only one to successfully do a backflip and land on one foot on ice. The backflip is banned for figure skating but when it was banned the woman did it and landed on both feet. The bonaly flip is her own version of the backflip and I haven’t seen anyone do it as of yet
Ok so literally every move from blades of glory was illegal
Thats exactly what I thought of
I knew something was just as little off!
reminds me in the karate kid where he lobs the guy's head off with a klick like 'wait i thought that was an illegal move?'
666th like . nice
that was the joke mate
I never knew there was a difference from figure skating and show skating. I thought it was all figure skating...
Shows what I know
Well, skating in ice shows can still be considered "figure skating" most of the time, but there is certainly a difference between competitive figure skating and skating in shows like exhibition galas or Stars on Ice
Yuzutea
Thank you for the info!
In general a lot of things are split between sports and show. Like real wrestling vs WWE, or girls at the strip club vs pole dancing competitions.
@@keiromultiverse3608 tru
Blossoming Fairies
Ikr
TIL that despite the fact that I have the "cling on to someone/something to keep my balance like my life depends on it and still fall constantly" level of skating I can do 3 banned skating moves. I can lay down on the ice, I can use a prop (especially those walker things), and I can take off clothing items while on the ice
Bring back the falling/lying on the ground. I love the drama & grace behind it!!
1:19 the fucking trust you need to have
👏you👏are👏risking👏your👏life👏so👏if👏your👏partner👏messes👏up👏you👏is👏dead👏meat👏
fr like imagine if he slips and her head goes bashing against the floor. so dangerous
@@yourmum9030 yeah ikr- like wow you realllllyyy trust your partner ;_;
AND PRACTICE
And courage!
Yea, the laying on the ice thing got out of hand in the late eighties and early nineties. I remember when they banned it the president of the ISU said "If you need to lie down you should go home and go to bed."
So close minded
"Got out of hand" in what sense?
@@perturb-arte1577 i think in the sense that EVERYONE did it.
ahahahahahaa
I imagine it was done partly because it was "not skating", but mostly because the judges were so sick of it 😂
Wow! Some moves are crazy (and look dangerous), but it was incredible to watch when they can pull them off.
Rule of thumb, if you aren't as strong as Lloyd Eisler, you have no business attempting the headbanger.
They forgot the most dangerous move: The Iron Lotus.
Well youtube would shut that shit down if that's the case, HAVE YOU SEEN THE FOOTAGE FAM (also I see what you did there, nice reference)
madness dont.
was waiting for this
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha
...
Too funny
kind of want to see a routine of someone just lying on their stomach and sliding around now
Andrew V. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
seal-inspired
Yaas
With props?
penguins :)
me: *never seen or shown interest about figure skating in all my life*
youtube's algorithm: _hey kiddo wanna see some illegal moves on ice skating?_
Wow, super informative, thank you!
I can't imagine how many people have gotten seriously injured or died trying to do these moves
I think it’s overall about conformity, because it’s much harder to judge unique individuals than it is to judge a robot with a specific set of options.
@@DisabledPsychedelica this is correct. thank you for being sane.
I imagine if people begin trying to do really difficult and dangerous moves. They must not mess it up. One of the rules about learning to do a back flip is that if you don't get it quickly without landing on your head many times. You probably should stop trying to do it because, you will hurt yourself very badly. This goes for any acrobatic sport. If you get injured, you don't make it very far or last that long.
I don’t think any have died
@@DisabledPsychedelica "Unique individuals?" Give me a break. Let's use samuri swords as props. That would be so unique.
No idea why this was in my recommended as someone who can barely even walk in a straight line.
Edit: didn't know I'd get this many likes thanks :)
CZcams: If u cant walk straight, I cant see u.
On regular ground without ice skates...
One of the songs I in here I listened to the other day, so I think that's why for me anyways.
sober up
Hm, I mostly listen to metal here on YT and apart from that I mostly watch Warhammer 40k stuff... I _really_ wonder why this was in my suggestions. The only connection I can see is that the jury might call an Exterminatus on every figure skater breaking those rules.
Was waiting for the fabled *FLYING LOTUS* but I'm at least glad we got the headbanger!
where can i watch the girl in yellow and the guy in red and black 1:44 i mean they’re amazing
Love how in sports skating everything is "dangerous" while in show skating no one seems to care😂
Rules are needed though, but the lying on ice rule is so stupid.
I sort of understand it becuase if the person isn't actually skating they can't be awarded any points? Also if at the end of your routine you fall down you could just pretend that it was 'intentional' and 'artistic' so I understand why. If you have to skate all the time, if you do fall down it means it's on mistake.
It’s also a bit harder to get hurt in thick snow compared to solid ice
@@the9657 Its "show" not "snow" skating
@@vulpine3431 Though... in snow skating, the lying pose would be the only practical one
Figure skating as a sport has to maintain an image. I imagine that these risky moves might lead to gruesome injuries and therefore be no-nos
They should ban jumping because when you are in the air, you aren't skating
You can´t remain in the air (it would actually be VERY impressive if you could) but you can spend a lot of time just laying there.
hahah damn u right
Yes and no
@@ACSMEX there's prob a glitch if you remain the air for too long
Lol, he was just joking
Intro music is Snapping by Chungha
4:15 this one was pure gold honestly
Jeez the swinging around just looks pointless and like they’re trying to crack the girl’s skull. Glad it’s banned.
Really I think it was cool af! The fact that they could get hurt is what makes it more impressive :) man I love skating but i dont understand why its has to be soo overly safe sometimes that you never see anything interesting or new or very impressive
@elly franz yeah no protective gear on solid ice with high speeds/high centrifugal forces and knifes under your feet.. may aswell be pillow fighting right
Bring back the "Iron Lotus"!
to be fair Id love to see more skull cracking I might actualy watch this crap then
@@ellyfranz7614 How come something is beautiful *just* because it's dangerous?
Surya Bonaly: lands a backflip on one foot while ice skating
Me: can't even do a handstand
I can’t even do a cartwheel
And then she does it *and goes into a spin* 😵
it was legal because the rules stated you couldn't land on two feet
That last backflip was a signal to the judges that she felt she had nothing left to lose.
Surya used to fall a lot on the jumps so she tries to make up for it by doing the backflips but it was never enough.
1:34 if that was a fall that was the cleanest save ever
5:15 *takes off part of clothing, hands it to a hovering drone which promptly flies off the rink*
There is always a bypass