PvZ GW3 Ideas! | Part Six: BFN Plant Variants
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2024
- Welcome to the sixth video of this series where I discuss everything about what I'd want for a Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 3! If you like PvZ GW1, PvZ GW2, or PvZ BFN, this is the right video for you! Thanks for watching, and don't forget to subscribe!
If you have any ideas for your own PvZ GW3, please let me know!
Beginning and end music in this video was done by Peter McConnell, but all other music belongs to the Pokémon Company or Hal. On-screen illustrations were done by me, including the thumbnail.
Enjoy! - Hry
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One idea I have for space cadet is a fire solar cadet variant which would have a slow charge up shot as their primary weapon. This projectile would act a lot like plasma pea's with the ability to do splash damage with the aoe increasing with each charge. However, with the level of charge increasing, instead of increasing the damage the attack does, the charge up would increase the damage and duration of the fire made to enemies. For the space station, it would still have a beam weapon just it does less damage and applys fire to the opponent.
Also I do like the glow! It makes the chomper stand out more!
Maybe for extra parts you can make a gnome side where gnomes can fight zombies and plants and the charecter and the tank being a king gnome without the spaceship and you can come up with the variants by their colors they come in and please add two more classes to zombie and three to plant if you have not added one to balance the zombies extra class
Also I like the glow
Future action: legendary 80s action hero.
He has a burst bow that does 20 dmg but has a very sluggish fire rate and a medium reload.
A streak of 5 vanquishes puts you into your legendary mode. The charge is unique as getting a shared vanquish gives you half of a regular vanquish. The mode gives you all the regular boosts plus a scatter shot that keeps the burst qualities.
Idk what any of the other stats would be but it would be cool to see this be fully realised.
Tony hawk Hovergoat: idk he just sounded funny, and gw1 had the Cheetos collab so Tony hawk isn’t far off
Ice Skater for Electric Slide.
Incandescent Cadet (A Space Cadet who re-entered the atmosphere, her ship is on fire).
Archer Hero (Robin Wood).
This might be the most wholesome CZcams channel ever
Thank you!
I think another good night cap would be the cooked cap based off cooked mushrooms where it’s a night cap with slower movement speed and attack speed but dose high damage along with burn
That would be fun!
What about the cake cap?
I've not seen anyone talk about this. But I think it'd be cool to see a water SnapDragon called SnapSerpent based off of the Sea Serpents which are water dragons, I think this snapdragon would be a burst fire character, shooting 5 water jets per burst, doing 13 damage each, the blue blazes now would be a bubble that traps enemies for 1.5 seconds when hit. The swoop slam would be like the normal one, but makes a shockWAVE (cuz it's a water variant, get it?) And the flame trail will now be a wave that shoots out and brings along any zombie that touches it, like electric slides ball
Also I could imagine the wind-up for blazing blast is just him eating a chili pepper-
Never considered a water variant!
We could just have him chug hot sauce instead, it would be weird to see a plant eat another plant, slightly less weird if it's the non sentient version though.
Great video! I would add some variants for plants:
Sap Dragon, a variant that looks like a sap tree, its main weapon is a sap spray, which works exactly like the Moto-X Star, it would slowly cover the enemy in sap until they could not use any more abilities. instead of the guided fireball, a sap shot would be identical to the chomper's goop ability. Instead of the flame blaze ability, it would create a trail of sap that would make enemies unable to use abilities and reduce their movement and camera movement (just like Chomper's super sticky goop).
Knight Cap, a knight variant that shoots spores shaped like sword blades, which deal more damage than a shot from a base Nightcap, but with a lower rate of fire. Its movement would be slower, but it would have 110 health points.
Vampire Acorn, a vampire variant that regenerates health when shot, its health is lower, having only 65 health points. And there would be the possibility of replacing the sap detonator with a vampire detonator, which, when exploded, causes less damage than a conventional explosion, but would steal life from the target hit. The Oak would be a haunted castle, which would be practically identical to the base Oak, instead, it regenerates life faster and has the vampiric detonator ability, but more powerful. In addition, when Castle Oak shoots an enemy, it steals life for the Acorns that are in the turret.
Sorry for my English, I'm not 100% fluent.
Snapdragon with Goop sounds absolutely horrifying…
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast One detail, the shot would be like that of the Yeti Chomper, but the sap effect on the final state, the one that does not allow the use of abilities. The shot would cause 45 damage. I think it sounds less terrifying now
Ngl...found your Channel in some comments. Saw a Chomper pfp, and subscribed, pretty sure I made the best choice possible in that situation
Thanks a lot! My banner does indeed say “it’s the guy from the comments!”
I've got an idea for a game mode called "Pass the potato"
Plants and zombies are on the same team.
They can't kill/damage/freeze(you know what I mean) people (still shoot).
The potato works like a gnome bomb you pass onto someone before it explodes.
There will be a storm similar to soil survivors.
Every character will keep there respective speed.
Toxic auras are disabled.
2k coins for dying first.
8k coins for dying after the first person.
10k coins for being third.
12.5k coins for second.
15k for 1st place.
So it’s pretty much hot potato
I like that he said “Sludge cap” instead of toxic.
(It’s because all night caps are toxic)
I also think that it rolls off the tongue better!
Kills two birds with one stone.
Alright I’m going to sit down review every class
Note: like the idea of giving Snapdragon and Slide different abilities depending on their variant, its helps them both stick out from the rest of the cast
Cold Snapdragon: obvious pick for a snapdragon class and I also really love the idea for the BB replacement
10/10
Zap dragon: always love a good power variant and callback to Pvz2 EP is cool and creative
10/10
Flap dragon: unique concept but I’m conflicted on the primary pushing back enemies especially with my experience with the pirate upgrade in BFN
7/10
Molten firesnap: definitely not a bad idea for legendary character
9/10
Sludgecap: switching piercing out for splash is really cool idea
10/10
Flightcap: Its nice to have nice counter B. Basher
8/10
Kittycap: Cool idea but the Legendary mode sound really OP I’d probably would remove fire rate increase
9/10
Brightcap: one word….. Awesome
10/10
Burning Acorn: Shot gun acorn + Torchwood’s return? Awesome
9/10
Gilded Acorn: great addition to the lackluster armored variants (excluding iron citron)
10/10
Birch acorn: Zen Cactus is one of my favorite cacti so I really like the idea
8/10
Acorn overload: I always love a good charge character and the oak might be my favorite
10/10
Weed: I’m confused is the slap the only they have. If it is I give a 6/10 because it does seem pretty cheesy how you can stun lock most enemies if it isn’t and he attacks like wild flower I give it 8/10
Hypnoshroom: ok forgive me if I misheard what you said but I think giving him an ice effect is a little too much. I would make it so after they’re hypnotized the can used their abilities for 4 seconds to make the hypnosis more stronger
6/10
Honestly I’m a big fan of most of these concepts. Keep up the good work 👍
Hey, I did pretty good here! As for the swarms, I came up with them last minute (I forgot they existed tbh), and threw those together to get the video out. But for the balance, the stun is only meaningful enough to cripple all-stars due to their weapon charge up, but any other character can shake it off pretty easily. For the Hypno Shroom, he doesn’t _actually_ have the ice effect, it’s just that they work the exact same and the only difference is really just aesthetics. Thanks for the ratings and feedback!
There are game files containing a Nightcap triple jump upgrade. Let’s just say Nightcap having 3 jumps would be very, very annoying. At least Flight cap has downsides though 👌
Can’t wait for the next vid
Thank you, and the scrapped upgrade was what I was basing the character off of lol
Great ideas as always
Thank you, good sir!
I love all those ideas
Thank you!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast cant wait for next part🙌
Variant idea: dr. Doctor
Almanac entry: nobody knows if he's actually a doctor, or just a zombie that lied on their resume. He constantly mumbles under his breath about something he calls "the color viruses"
A scientist who's a reference to doctor Mario. His primary has infinite ammo, but there's still use for the reload button. He shoots colorful bouncing pills at the enemy. They come in red, blue, or yellow for either half. You can see which color is coming next, and can press reload to reroll for a random different pill. Depending on the color, the pill will deal more or less damage. For example, a pure yellow pill will deal 50% more damage to yellow enemies. While pure red or blue will deal 50% less.
In the case the pill is double colored, let's say blue and yellow, hitting a blue enemy will make the yellow and blue cancel each other out. But if the part of the enemy you hit is green, they'll make the pill deal double. (Hitting roses head counts as red, while her body counts as green for reference)
If you have a very special silver upgrade exclusive to him, the color bias will change based on who you seem to be fighting to give you a bit more of an advantage.
This character adapts randomly, only those who can be the randomness and dodge like their life depends on it will truly feel the power of abusing bulls--t mechanics that shouldn't matter, but do anyway.
You know it’s a good day when twilight posts 💜
This time, it’s not a joke!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast yeah I know 😂
best channel of 2024?
That would be great!
my only major concern is that I hope there is some way to make sure chomper isn't completely overshadowed by snapdragon.
All of the spray chompers will be turned into bite chompers to prevent Snapdragon from just being a reskin.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast NOOOOOOOOOOO
I wish there was a better way, but I hope there are other potentially upcoming things to make me feel better.
I was thinking that was a problem! I think we would also have to change snapdragons design from bfn alot so he is identifyable compared to a chomper
I love the flapdragon concept! Would probably main him if he was in the game
He really does sound like a fun character to play, even if he’s not the strongest…
One of his abilities would make him one of the funniest characters
Didn't see da video yet.
My Cold Snapdragon currently has different abilities from reg Snapdragon. That's cause I think that because the Snapdragon doesn't have a "standard" variant, each variant should have mostly different abilities if they can.
Well, that’s how I decided to do them!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Oh, still haven't seen da video. I've been busy.
I hope nobody gets mad, but I replaced Widlflower with Marigold... why? It's simple, there were some legal disputes and Marigold demanded to be a class and Wildflower got sent to Florida.
Okay feedback and questions, liked all the ideas, very fun and interesting. You should have clarified the Ammo count for the birch nut, and I think the birch nut should have an inverse rev mechanic. To clarify this "inverse rev mechanic" would make them shoot fast at first but the more damage the projectile can deal the slower the acorn shoots, same with the oak.
I'll go over the video a few more times, if I find something that should be clarified I'll ask. It was the birch acorn that stuck out for me for the first watch.
Question: after the BFN zombie variants video, are you gonna do abilities?
If so, are you doing plants and zombies abilities separately to stall for the fan variants to be on ep.10 for maximum hype per chance?
I'll take your silence and singular like as a yes.
for new plants playables for a 3rd, i'd thing the old iceberg lettuce that got removed from bfn would be great. a second plant is lightning reed, mainly cause i love lightning reed :D
I have an idea for a backyard item: Dr. Zomboss’s flaming hot chips stand which will do the same thing as the crazy Dave epic ice cream machine, but for fire stuff
7:02 Yeah alot of people say they do not want nightcap to have elemental varients especially an ice nightcap
That's why I planned on making sure it was difficult to freeze people effectively.
I love making ideas for Garden Warfare 3 even it is never going to happen though anyway My BFN Plant idea is Oak & Acorn and Zombie idea is Space Cadet
Cool idea, what if the snapdragon legendary is dark matter dragonfruit from pvz heroes?, instead of a flame spray its primary could be a heavy splash shot like the dark garlic, but on impact it could disable zombie abilities one by one (cause dark matter dragonfuit makes zombie tricks way more expensive in pvz heroes), ive got no idea what the meter would be though
The ability disabling part would have to be used sparingly, as stun is one of the most annoying parts of GW2. Perhaps it makes their cooldown for abilities much longer?
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast I was more meaning first shot disable ability, then 2 then 3 (without stunning the primary or movement speed) with a slow firing projectile with slow shot speed (like dark garlic) but only proccing the effect on direct hits, so it's easy to use (big reliable splash) but really rewarding if you know how to lead shots well, although the ability denial may still be very annoying, i don't know what else the gimmick could be though, your idea is pretty good but i don't think it would affect that much in battle
Nice the super varients as i called them (ones with every ability swap) are a really cool concept that I like
it makes them way more unique. maybe some previous varients should get some changes also (e.i park ranger having some sort of big gas grenade or smth)
also all wind varients should get a one damage buff imo, just because they are faster doesn't mean they do waaay less damage
Also a blinding/hypno version of night cap would be cool called blight cap, having some sort of flashbang or hypno abilities maybe
I made the wind variants do less damage because it might be broken if they can push enemies around a lot and still hit hard. Making it difficult for the enemy to traverse I felt did enough indirect damage.
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Especially with their "wind power-up" silver upgrades
I don't know if you mentioned this in the class changes video but power and fire chomper will need to be a bite characters now since the zap and snap dragon is the spray character
Yeah, all of the spray chompers will become bite ones to avoid overlap.
idea pitch: Gingerbark House being the ice variant, with the Super Important Note being that the Acorn for him looks like a lil cupcake
Both sound fun!
Game mode idea: conquering chaos
A gardenator, and a grave-o-matic, both on opposing sides. With weeds and lesser zombies growing on their respective sides, and with 4 players on both sides ready to lead the charge and get their competitive rank up.
Whoever destroys the enemy base first wins, if nobody's got destroyed before the timer goes off, the one with the most health left wins. There are planting pots and bot stations, and a control point in the center that grants extra pots or stations, on top of extra minion spawns for the team holding it.
Would probably need to have changes done, as there would most likely be a huge amount of kamikaze playstyles.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
In the case of the 3rd team that you seem to be trying to incorporate (Gnomes I believe?) We can call their base a tick-tockerator.
The story here is that gnomes lost control of time to "skeletons" (another undead being aside from zombies) and now their making their way to gnomify the world to combat them, of course, neither plants nor zombies can let this happen.
I chose skeletons because gnomes irl are decorations for your garden. Skeletons were the best undead counterpart to them, due to zombies already being taken by the franchise itself.
@@Random0king-tw5pn I think that it would be fun if it was an assortment of plants and zombies instead, just corrupted.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
And gnomes, don't forget gnomes.
What do we call these distorted figures?
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
Wait... would this mean you're gonna be doing gnome classes later down the line? In that case...
Class idea: Gnome trooper
Almanac entry: after losing the battle over time itself, the gnomes had to retreat to our world, now on a quest to gnomify it into a weapon, this is the first of the many adaptations they've made to stop the other 2 sides from stopping them.
The gnome trooper is a versatile gnome fighter that can cover for lots of roles your team may not have. His primary works on an overheat system, having moderate damage output and pretty good accuracy. Not as accurate as foot soldier or as damaging as peashooter, but it still gets work done. Like all the "baby's first" characters, the gnome trooper has 125 health.
Ability 1: gear mobile
Enter a vehicle with gears for wheels to improve ground movement (in exchange for the ability to jump) and run over enemies. 22 second cooldown
Ability 2: Gnomus buffus
Gain the BFN gnome buff for yourself for 20 seconds. With its 1 minute 20 second cooldown in mind, be sure to make this count
Ability 3: Gnome bomb lite
Place a mini gnome bomb at your feet to blow up any Bozo stupid enough to get too close to you. 30 second cooldown
i think it should be a set rule by now that slide and 80's variants should be just music and movie genres. We've kept this trend since the first game i think its important we keep it going. Also i dont think torchwood should be an oak variant. He deserves his own character.
I’ve heard a lot of people saying that Torchwood should be its own character, which understandable, I do believe that it works best from a game design standpoint. And yes, the 80s and Slide variants will be different genres/dances and music respectively.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
🧐 I do believe you've made a typo in your sentence my good sir
I'm certainly confident that you as a fine individual meant to refer to the handsome chap we all know as the BBQ tree ma- *BWAAAAAAAAAA-*
@@Random0king-tw5pn Gah, my ears!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
Blame lt. Dark ring, he made that gag first.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
Also, the torchwood is "canonically" a spruce tree, so him being an "oak" form wouldn't make sense. If he was attached to Acorn, you would have to make a spruce seed variant of him just for one character. (Not that I would mind, I even have an idea for "nutlet" (a birch seed, yes I put parenthesis IN parenthesis) that I'm polishing a bit for your next episode that based on calculations will take around 4 more weeks to come out)
I have only one real suggestion for space cadet despite her being my favorite pvz shooter class to play as ever, and that would be to buff her cosmo shot’s reload speed and ROF by a small amount, maybe by .25 seconds for the reload and an added 50-75 shots per minute, I’m pretty much just suggesting this because her base rate of fire and especially her reload speed are a bit too long to make the character feel fun to fight with.
I would also nerf the reload speed of the Big Bang burst by .5 seconds, it reloads to fast for what it can dish out, also make the recoil a bit more manageable, the Big Bang burst seems to be the pvz shooter weapon with the most noticeable recoil and by a good margin, I imagine that was due to not having damage falloff in bfn so they needed to encourage the second largest character hitbox to close the gap somehow. Also it’s pretty funny how the cosmo shot takes into account how light doesn’t generate recoil yet the Big Bang burst goes in the opposite end of the recoil extreme.
Other than that, and not fucking up the variants, I don’t really have any other suggestions.
Other than making an overclock specialist variant that has their primary weapon work like the “feedback loop” and “efficiency.” Bfn Space cadet upgrades both in and out of the spacestation, with a suitable downside of course, maybe make her ttk start off worse than her peers but ramping up with a hot streak of vanquishes (hot streak: a streak counted in a short amount of time instead of overall in the current life.) to surpass them, the best way to deal with her ramping shenanigans would be to snuff her out while she is weak or to starve her out until her overclock wears off.
Edit: it would be really funny if one of the space cadets reloaded her (cosmo shot weapon replacement) by punching the bot instead of slapping it.
Space Cadet’s reload is definitely getting buffed, as boy is it painful!
If I gave variants to Snapdragon and Electric Slide, I would let most variants keep the electric\fire element and have different attacks.
Yessir
Idea for acorn variant
Apple + apple tree
Apple would shoot rapid fire seeds (something like normal acorn just faster with smaller damage and more ammo) and have same abilities
Apple tree would shoot 2 apples per second dealing moderate damage with small splash
His first ability (applenado) would make him spin and throw apples in all directions
Second ability would be same
Third ability (apple pie launcher) would make him shoot apple pie that would deal huge splash damage slowing and setting enemies on fire
Sounds really fun! The first PvZ thing I thought of like it was the Apple Mortar plant from PvZ2, but obviously this is much different lol
i think there should also be a snapdragon variant that’s like clay/stone where it’s primary is breathing out maybe sand or mud that can be like Moto X star and it’s secondary is shooting compacted or compressed clay or mud in the shape of a ball that has the same effects as Moto X star as well but only when directly hitting an enemy, it’s appearance can be similar to the gargoyle skin in bfn
Also since there’s an uneven amount of characters in the roster, the scrapped iceberg lettuce would be cool to be added back in a gw3 and maybe some variants can be thought of too since snapdragon and electric slides variants in this video were pretty cool
That could be worked into his gargoyle costume, as it works nicely as a stone base! As for the Iceberg Lettuce, I did a tease for her in part 2 of this series, so I do have a plan!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast awesome !! love your videos btw!
@@Shuni- Thank you!
i have some suggestions. make wild west cadet variant or wild west 80s hero. a Disco slide variant that deals splash damage ( i know your all ready did the plant variants but a pea pod variant for the peashooter might be funny)
Well, I have good news for you!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast 🤨
@@strong9390 I plan on using one of these (with credit), but you’ll just have to wait and see!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Also here's another variant for you, the Quazard (from pvzh). He primary weapon is a beam attack like Baron Von Bats that has cold down (I think that's the name) and when on a zombie (not spawnable) can use one of there abilities for themself after they are not on its head and my other idea is Sleepzard who can turn plants into sheep like the rose
Magma snapdragon could just be a armor variant for snapdragon in my opinion.
It very cool to see my idea: a variant that
Is the polar opposite of armor variants.
I’m so sorry I forgot to mention you for that! I’ll add it in the description :D
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
If You want to sure!
It would be cool to see coffin zombie as a variant for tv head.
Names I made up
Cold snapdragon:
Blue blazes replacement: freeze-cicle
Flame wheel replacement: Cold wall
Zapdragon:
Blue blazes replacement: electro sphere
Flame wheel replacement: Shock pour
Flap dragon:
Blue blazes replacement: gust shot
Flame wheel replacement: tornado barrier
Molten fire snap:
Legendary mode: Fueled eruption
Kitty cap:
Legendary mode: Feline frenzy
Gilded acorn and oak:
Tree ability: Spruce shield
Turret ability: Turret trunk
Burch acorn and sugarplum fairy oak:
Pixie dust ability: pixie spit
Fire rate aura ability: magical help
Acorn and oak overlord:
Air strike ability: uprooted air strike
Shotgun ability: superior sapling
Hypno shroom:
Ball ability: hypno ball
Great as always! :D
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast thank you once again
The best idea for GW3 is being ablebto skip the vanquished screen
In theory I can see how it’s important to know who vanquished you, but it will be an opt out thing in the settings.
Acorn variants: different type of tree as the oak
s e e d, and flying tree ma- *pvz 1 bungee zombie scream earrape.mp4*
I have an idea for a special rarity ice superhero: Snow brainz
He would have a 5 hit combo of a right hook(🤛) left hook (🤜), hammer punch with the right(🫲 as a fist), left(🫱 also as a fist), and a finishing double punch that hit each other ( a.k.a This -> 🤜🤛) all together dealing 5 damage less than the combo of electro brainz, but each punch can freeze about 18%, making the full combo almost freeze an opponent at 90%, and the ranged attack is an ice beam about the same as frozen citron’s
And the ability it’ll have that will replace the heroic kick would be what I’d call snow pile warp, where he will pull out a chunk of snow and carry it over his head and enabling you to aim and throw the chunk as far as the distance two heroic kicks can take you while the chunk can deal 75 damage to anyone in the way and after throwing it, he’ll be absorbed into his hands due to some of the snow still being on them and pops out of the chunk, which will then make it go on a 24 second cooldown
Assuming that the combo comes out as fast as Electro Brainz’s combo, it would be incredibly broken, as 90% freeze usually makes someone move at the pace of two snails pushing three snails, making them a sitting duck for the rest. I’d probably make it a bit slower as a result, or require more punches to fully freeze someone. Love the concept though!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast definitely slower punches, but thanks for the feedback, also what do you think about the ability?
@@cesarplays687 Might be interesting as a combo starter with a burst of damage, and I could see it being an ability with a high skill ceiling. However, depending on how large the projectile is, 75 damage might be a little too steep for a close-range AoE attack. But then again, Sprint Tackle exists…
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast it’ll be about as big as the radius of a normal bean bomb, so kinda big-ish
So you're gunderfun? I've seen you in a couple of my BFN lobbies.
I have been in BFN a while to get more clips. I definitely need some more practice on that platform lol
For the electric snapdragon would it still rain next to fire variants?
Yes!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Ok😅
OGERPON, MY FAVVVV
Not the first time she’s referenced on this channel, either!
Remember how I said Popcap should hire you? Scratch that, you might as well be Popcaps boss at this point
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie!
Lol, I know exactly what meme you're referencing
Some illustrations would go a long way on this one
Makes sense! I used them for the transitions mostly
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast the new attacks/abilities are hard to in-vision for me and seeing exactly what you imagine would be cool
If your a twilight chopper main, what zombie do you main (apart from chemist)
I hate the chemist. I’m a Hockey Star main on Zombies.
Watch this, he's eventually gonna make a clip based second channel called "Hockey star enthusiast"
@@Random0king-tw5pn Maybe I should… my clip-based videos don’t do as well lol
BFN honestly wasn't a horrible game, they just ended support to soon.
It's basically it's own game series, it's not really a GW game and that's what most people don't get before they play it.
I’m honestly sure that the most hardcore BFN players have never actually played the game, just watched someone like Wolfy say that it’s bad and proceed to parrot those same points.
People thought of GW and BFN as brothers
Rather than brothers from other mothers.
@@Random0king-tw5pn That’s a good way of putting it.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
It's called battle for neighborville, because it's NOT a garden warfare game.
@@Random0king-tw5pn Exactly, so I don’t know why people are so upset over it not living up to Garden Warfare when it’s not even the same game series.
I feel like acorn overlord would be incredibly broken
And bright cap should be the legendary
Okay, that definitely could work!
Torchwood should be it's own character and not just fire acorn's tree
It is good day to be: not dead
TCE uploaded
Before I go into my variant ideas, some nitpicks.
The wildflower thing was honestly pretty lazy, the hypno-shroom is questionable but the weed actually makes sense, so it can slide. Also, the wildflower *s l a p* should be kept, but only deal 15 damage, while weeds *s l a p* deals the normal 50 like in BFN, but with noticably less endlag. And weed should be bulkier than wildflower to compliment their more close ranged and aggressive style of combat. (I hope you decide to change the drone in some way, that s--t haunts me permanently)
The color cap would also be kinda strange, weird, and frustrating to fight with, against, and as. Because your glowcap (which I will call "discaptheque" because they remind me of disco *b a l l s* ) may just have an effect on them that doesn't help the current situation in the fire fights, and if anything, hurts the team. Zombies need to observe closer than usual to determine the optimal counterplay, which means you may die unfairly because the discaptheque had an effect that your character is weak against, if they could change the color at will, this would feel less random and more "yeah that color makes sense". And you may need to get as high as 2 vanquishes by yourself to get the color you want, only to instantly change color upon killing your target and get caught at a disadvantage. Instead, we could make it so discaptheque can't use shadow sneak, but gains an exclusive 45 second cooldown ability to rotate colors. That way, discaptheque is a tactical mushroom that will send those undead dips--ts "dancing" all the way back to their spawn with optimization and critical thinking.
The BBQ tree ma- *BWAAAAAAAAAA-* should've stayed as his own class, because he was an unlockable class alongside hovergoat, and it would weird if we had hovergoat without torchwood.
I remembered Wildflower existed when I thought I finished the script, so I admit it was quite rushed. And yes, the drones will be reworked on a fundamental level as I hate them with a passion. As for the Nightcap, I intentionally made her require direct vanquishes for the shift, so you can play around getting shared vanquishes and keeping the form you’d like to be in. However, that would require an ally nearby.
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Fair enough. I'll reply again with the variants later
As promised: variant 1/4
Wisp nut
Almanac entry: he's saddened that others fear him, he rarely makes friends because of it, after a long day of trying, he likes to unwind with his pet Rottweiler.
Ignoring your questionable choice to make our almighty lord and savior: the BBQ tree ma- *BWAAAAAAAAAA-* nothing more than a cheap knockoff of what he should be, this is a fire acorn that is preposterously rare compared to other variants and deals purple fire damage that lingers even past the point where they should take damage, they won't take further damage, but being killed with it on renders you unrevivable.
The oak form is one of those creepy trees you'd find in a standard issue haunted forest. Its primary shoots little will-o-wisps that chase enemies begrudgingly slowly. They can pass through walls and instill fear into zombies, decreasing how fast they walk toward it and increasing the speed when running away. Getting caught by it will hurt for 65 damage and purple fire DOT. The abilities, alongside super sap trap, are a little brain totem to act as a decoy that makes any zombie look and walk toward it against the will of the player. Lasts for 8 seconds with a 30 second cooldown.
Variant 2/4
Sparklesnap
Almanac entry: nothing matters to him more than sparkles. Lots and lots of sparkles.
This is a "cloud" snapdragon that leaves a lingering attack similar to steam blaster, instead of a spray attack. This can apply a "sparkled" effect that has the same effect as moto-x stars unique status condition.
Variant 3/4
Greenery rose
Almanac entry: given her mellow and friendly disposition compared to other roses smug and arrogant ones, it's no wonder why others enjoy her presence the most of all
She does less damage with her primary, but if we left it at that she would be stock but worse, she has an exclusive ability that can replace time snare/jinx called "reinforcemint call" this lets her place a potted plant at her feet to help your team hold ground, defend the teleporter, or take the enemy off guard. She also has an aura that reduces the potted plant cooldowns of all nearby plants.
Misc. Her face encapsulates her mellow and friendly description, her color is green.
If you have a place to send stuff to you, I’d love to make art based off the variants
I’ll let you know!
I feel like flight cap only having 50 just is too much. Most zombies do around 40 damage really easily so flight cap would need a sunflower at all times
That’s what the tradeoff would be, because of how much harder she would be to hit!
I think the best way to explain the problem is using the kunai from team fortress 2. Its a weapon that is really good in a casual setting, but useless in more skilled games. Flight cap would be very strong in a game full of newer players, but most players who’ve played for some time (or just the landscaper/ac perry) would just shut it down
I likee last part better
👍
The story of this game shows that the Plants won the Battle for Zomburbia, taking back most of Suburbia. That is until the two towns separated from each other to form a new world, it has the Town Center, the Weirding Woods, and the trails of Mount Steep. There four stories, the plant story in Town Center shows the player having to save the plants from Olds Cool’s boogie traps, the zombie story in Town Center has the player save the zombies from an un-zombie fungus caused by Blight Cap (who’s basically a giant blue Night Cap), Mount Steep has the player prevent the zombies from causing a cheese explosion, and the Weirding Woods has the player saving a zombie cult in the Z-Tech Factory from an invasive plant called Dreadwood (who’s basically a giant, one-eyed redwood tree).
I’d like to incorporate certain aspects of BFN’s story into the GW3 one, while expanding the lore!
I think torchwood and acorn should be separate characters to keep both sides equal.
Snapdragon is the best BFN character,fight me.
I will not, because I agree.
nice I'm so early that there is only 360p quality
Yeah, I’m trying to resolve that… is it something fixes itself in time?
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast usually when you first upload a video the SD resolution is finished first followed by HD then 4K if you used that, if you want you could upload the video and have it private until the HD version is done processing.
tldr: yeah it will fix itself
@@Rordan44 Alright, thanks.
Imma be honest with you, that bright cap idea doesn't sound very good. The main problem is that you change based on vanquishes meaning that they are all extremely inconsistent and at best you might happen to need the one you happen to have at the moment in a situation where you aren't on the offensive as an offensive character.
I think it would be better if the buffs were based on abilities.
Fung fu makes you green because you need the defense during and after it
pink speed boost for shadow sneak to get in or out faster and be more evasive when appearing
Lastly, blue in the shadow dome of butt pain because thats the last one and thats where you'll be spamming all your shots like an a-hole but it wont matter cuz I'm still gonna kill you even if its the last thing I do.
me when no iceberg lettuce
Iceberg lettuce was never officially added, so technically not a BFN character…
Gonna make a take so spicy it'll make a Mexican ask for milk
Popcap aren't entirely responsible for BFNs failure, in fact, just as much blame can go to the community. Popcap were promising all of these wonderful fixes and additions, BB nerfs, ops phase 3, new legendary upgrades, and of course, Iceberg Lettuce. They were working so hard to try and keep us under control, but the community was biting and scratching trying to get more than they actually deserved. And that's why BFN was canceled. They no longer saw reason to listen to us. Now the PVZ franchise is on this spiral of mid-low tier garbage, because the pressure got to several of the BFN devs, and they left, leaving us with less than half the devs we would've had if we were just patient and supportive.
@@Random0king-tw5pn yeah, everyone blames EA for PvZ's failure when they didn't do anything and we were the ones who caused the "downfall."
Honestly someone should just make a gw3 mod 💀
What, what happened to part 69420? Come one I thought that was that was the final part and it was already in production wasn’t the first beta going to be released . . . Come on I’ve been lied to 😭😭😭 it was perfect an great idea wasted I’m 😞
I am so sorry about that!
(Scratching his balls and sniffing his finger three times)
@Notcreepyflower69420 i don’t know
Wait... your user name is Gunderfun?
Yes (Sorry)
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast I was like thinking, wait why do I remember that name when the whole lobby was after me😭😭
@@Mobking20 Yeah, iirc I think I was acting a bit toxic then due to coming in from a bad day. Sorry if anything went wrong lol
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast When you like a youtuber just to find out they were toxic to you back then💀💀
I dont mind it at all, it is just kinda funny/awkward. and do you mean Aric_daddy or wdym by iirc?
@@Mobking20 IIRC means “if I remember correctly.” And yeah, I once got taunted by Wolfy a couple years ago…
I know I know I’m late
Better late than never!
wait your telling me last part wasnt real????!!!!! (jk)
Lol, and I ended up using the Gnome Bomb game we played on Fujj’s stream!
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiastyeah! I was getting absolutely dominated XD
@@binbagbeanie Sorry about that!
this franchise really has a fanbase that would be described as a double-edged sword.
at one hand, you have degens doing stupid stuff, taking the “no logic” law at face value.
and at the other hand, you have passionate people that care about this franchise but barely get recognized by the community because apparently trying to make a fan game that follows the formula and the many steps this franchise took is jack shit to them.
angry i am, i tell you.
one day however, if you and i (and every else) get our shit together and for once set aside our differences, maybe, just maybe this franchise will be great again, even if only few people follow it.
i, myself, plan on doing a little certain thing for this franchise, especially for the anniversary that i was late to. (sorry for the inconvenience) (oh and hint, it involves ALL of the brand, and it’s gonna be hard, but with knowledge of drawing, i would probably be fine. wish me luck, and stop fighting each other over what is objectively the best game in this franchise, it would get all of us nowhere, with no direction or control, so just THINK for once and learn, a community is supposed to be full of people who care, not a bunch of crybabies that get agitated very easily, that’s not the first impression we want to deliver to the outsiders, after all.)
god just put me out of my misery and pain for loving exploited and neglected franchises that i once as a kid or recently just discovered years after their golden years.
😢
Keep the copium alive hard r
This is purely from a design standpoint, but what about a cherry blossom oak? Though the name is a bit silly, it would be cool to have a real like tree variant as a variant in the game. Maybe its projectiles could be like cherry blossom bombs?
Sounds like fun! I’d need to make an Acorn to accompany it!
this guy is like ltdarkring for Chomper mains
Lol, I think that we both serve very different roles for this franchise!
One is a robotic guide to gitting gud at existing shooters
The other is a creative and (usually) smart fella that could be the main power source to THE biggest pvz fangame in history
Know the difference dips-